Did atlantis exist?

Logic · May 13, 2004, 23:00:40

I can't say I've done my fair share of research on it. However, I have heard speculation on it from time to time. One of the more interesting theories that I heard was that the Antarctic was originally closer to the equator, originally being Atlantis.

MJ-12 · May 13, 2004, 23:22:54

My money's on the remnants of a small island nation that was destroyed by a volcanic eruption several thousand years ago, off the coast of Greece. No crystals, or aliens, or anything like that. Just an ancient people who were relatively advanced for their time.

Nay · May 13, 2004, 23:38:39

I've always been curious about this subject.

Watching alot of TLC, Discovery channel, and not to mention all the other way up there channels that I can't remember, it seems they have found artifacts suggesting a civilization that once lived on the outskirts of a large body if water. Atlantis...who knows..[?] There are hypothesis on this...but yet, everyone is in disagreement. Go figure..[

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Nay

Veccolo · May 14, 2004, 00:15:14

quote:
Originally posted by MJ-12

My money's on the remnants of a small island nation that was destroyed by a volcanic eruption several thousand years ago, off the coast of Greece. No crystals, or aliens, or anything like that. Just an ancient people who were relatively advanced for their time.

That's what I think too.

Nagual · May 15, 2004, 01:24:36

The latest documentary was linking Atlantis with the city of Troy...

Mystic Cloud · May 15, 2004, 03:10:46

Didn't they blow themselves up with a volcano or something?

Guess they got too much into Weather & Earth controlling
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ImmuredSoul · May 15, 2004, 05:14:46

Actually, there has been a worldwide flood . . . If you notice, some animals have been found in different parts of the world, where they don't even belong. Coincidence, kiss my ***.

Eric g · May 15, 2004, 05:38:13

quote:
Originally posted by Nagual

The latest documentary was linking Atlantis with the city of Troy...

"Troy" in Turkey or the one in England ?

harlequin_star · May 15, 2004, 13:04:26

Why are you asking if it exsisted,Dr. Shaman, when you already don't believe?
What do you hope to learn from asking?

Silversunset · May 15, 2004, 18:56:32

A new theory that i've heard is that atlantis didnt 'sink' into the ocean like it was previously though, instead it was on two fault lines, and when the plates moved the land that it was on the water rose up and created a tidal wave that swept over the land and flooded the city.

if i can find the tv show i saw it on (i think it was on TLC) then i'll let you know - and if i can find the real name of it i'll tell you. It started with an H...He something.

gah i hate not remembering things like this.

DrShaman · May 17, 2004, 04:29:35

Just because I don't believe it existed, doesn't mean that it existed. I'd like to hear other people's opinions about this. What do you think?

quote:
Originally posted by harlequin_star

Why are you asking if it exsisted,Dr. Shaman, when you already don't believe?
What do you hope to learn from asking?

DrShaman · May 17, 2004, 04:45:03

Plato spoke of an island in the Atlantic ocean, so lost civilizations outside Greece must be something else than Atlantis.

quote:
Originally posted by MJ-12

My money's on the remnants of a small island nation that was destroyed by a volcanic eruption several thousand years ago, off the coast of Greece. No crystals, or aliens, or anything like that. Just an ancient people who were relatively advanced for their time.

DrShaman · May 17, 2004, 05:47:59

runlola:

I looked at the pictures at the linked site and they look fake to me.
The medallion looks new, but if it's 13000 years old it must be worn in some way.

It is also typical of the atlantis researchers that they say things like this:

"He is reticent about giving too many details and will not publicly reveal his full identity or the location where he found the medallion until next week, because he believes the government of that country will demand that the relic be returned immediately
"

But it seems these further details are never released.

Mystic Cloud · May 17, 2004, 08:46:26

Medallion feels fake to me too.

Anyway Atlantis was said to have defeated ancient Egypt in a war somewhere. So there should be some inscriptions on this in Egypt.

magickdan · May 17, 2004, 16:37:39

quote:
Originally posted by ImmuredSoul

Actually, there has been a worldwide flood . . . If you notice, some animals have been found in different parts of the world, where they don't even belong. Coincidence, kiss my ***.

Actually theres been a theory of a super continent called pangea. Where all the Land Mass used to be one great contient then separated.

harlequin_star · May 18, 2004, 19:07:11

that medallion's fake. . the writings ALL wrong. Thats the problem with people like that, they'll create something, claim its thousands of years old, and then most people are turned off by that and therefore wont believe in atlantis at all, because people exploit it. As for egypt, there IS evidence, but the egyptian government wont let any archaeologist dig in egypt anymore, the americans and europeans who do, do it illegally, for some reason the egyptian government wants to keep their history a hush hush, and of course dont forget one of the halls of records that was burned to the ground during the crusades because it was "pagan". Theres lots of evidence of atlantis, unfortunately, most "normal" people dont want to talk about it, its a sorta taboo like subject. .sad really. But its atlantean past lives that you should look into, if the people are genuine, most of their stories coincide. Hope i helped[

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volcomstone · May 18, 2004, 19:09:37

the medallion looks exceptionally fake, but I would like to believe it is real.

Mystic Cloud · May 19, 2004, 12:25:09

quote:
Originally posted by harlequin_star

that medallion's fake. . the writings ALL wrong. Thats the problem with people like that, they'll create something, claim its thousands of years old, and then most people are turned off by that and therefore wont believe in atlantis at all, because people exploit it. As for egypt, there IS evidence, but the egyptian government wont let any archaeologist dig in egypt anymore, the americans and europeans who do, do it illegally, for some reason the egyptian government wants to keep their history a hush hush, and of course dont forget one of the halls of records that was burned to the ground during the crusades because it was "pagan". Theres lots of evidence of atlantis, unfortunately, most "normal" people dont want to talk about it, its a sorta taboo like subject. .sad really. But its atlantean past lives that you should look into, if the people are genuine, most of their stories coincide. Hope i helped[]

Probably have to do with the thing that the Koran states something like how old the world/culture is and they do not want to find evidence that it has been older [xx(] (Information from The ancient
secret of the flower of life)

DrShaman · May 19, 2004, 12:50:12

What evidence are you talking about, more than the past lives? What hall of records was burned to the ground during the crusades?

I remember some of my past lives, but not any further back than about 1800 years. It seems like it's harder to remember lives very far back, and these lives should then be 13000 years ago.
What do you think about "my reasons for not believing this"
, that I stated on my first posting?

quote:
Originally posted by harlequin_star

that medallion's fake. . the writings ALL wrong. Thats the problem with people like that, they'll create something, claim its thousands of years old, and then most people are turned off by that and therefore wont believe in atlantis at all, because people exploit it. As for egypt, there IS evidence, but the egyptian government wont let any archaeologist dig in egypt anymore, the americans and europeans who do, do it illegally, for some reason the egyptian government wants to keep their history a hush hush, and of course dont forget one of the halls of records that was burned to the ground during the crusades because it was "pagan". Theres lots of evidence of atlantis, unfortunately, most "normal" people dont want to talk about it, its a sorta taboo like subject. .sad really. But its atlantean past lives that you should look into, if the people are genuine, most of their stories coincide. Hope i helped[]

DrShaman · June 02, 2004, 05:18:48

After studying Cayce's readings further, I'm even more convinced that Atlantis didn't exist. No disrespect to Cayce, he was one of the greatest healers and clairvoyants ever, but I don't think his predictions are reliable. He predicted that large parts of America and Japan would sink under water and of a pole shift that would be the beginning of a new age the year 2000. None of this has happened.

But I've read Graham Hancock's "Heavens's mirror" and it seems like the ancient civilizations were connected and that there were even more ancient, some of them yet undiscovered civilizations, but I don't think Atlantis was one of them.

narfellus · June 04, 2004, 10:15:10

weird pic, Red Dragon.

narfellus · June 04, 2004, 10:18:33

I don't see any reason why Atlantis couldn't have existed. There has just been so much hoopla about it for so long, it either has to be undoubtable true or is the biggest pipe dream in history. Miguel Ruiz speculated through his visions that Atlantis was real, highly technological, and destroyed itself through accidental nuclear power. Their science was supposedly a blend of magic and tech, unlike anything we have now, but it was either abused or misunderstood. Again, there is no proof of any of these. One theory is as good as another.

As for the medallions, well, they look real pretty, but movies make real pretty props too. It's not hard evidence. Not much on these astral boards are. [

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boydster · June 04, 2004, 13:07:53

Runlola, thanks for sharing the medalion article!

Has anyone ever read the occult classic, "A Dweller on Two Planets"? It was dictated to a young man near the end of the 19th century by an advanced, discarnate being named Phylos. It includes, in novel form, a very detailed account of Phylos' last two lives--one on Atlantis around 13,000 BC, and another in California in the early 1800's.

My point is that the details of this account of his Atlantean life closely correlates with most of the akashic readings by Leadbeater, Besant and others in the Theosophical writings. In addition to this, while reading the material, deep, soul stirring memories were unearthed within me of my own experiences there.

Also, many, many people have been hypnotically regressed for various reasons and they relate details of lives they lived on Atlantis as well as Lemuria and even earlier epochs. The accounts generally agree with each other and the previously mentioned sources quite well.

DrShaman · June 07, 2004, 04:45:34

Did Leadbeater write anything on Atlantis? If he did, that would make me more inclined to believe that Atlantis existed, because I think he was one of the brighest and most reliable clairvoyants ever.
I think he's far more reliable than Cayce.

But Lemuria can't be true. A lost country in the pacific ocean 50 000 years ago? That's far too long ago and there's no geological evidence for that. There could maybe be a civilization in the pacific, but it can't be as old as that.

quote:
Originally posted by boydster

Runlola, thanks for sharing the medalion article!

Has anyone ever read the occult classic, "A Dweller on Two Planets"? It was dictated to a young man near the end of the 19th century by an advanced, discarnate being named Phylos. It includes, in novel form, a very detailed account of Phylos' last two lives--one on Atlantis around 13,000 BC, and another in California in the early 1800's.

My point is that the details of this account of his Atlantean life closely correlates with most of the akashic readings by Leadbeater, Besant and others in the Theosophical writings. In addition to this, while reading the material, deep, soul stirring memories were unearthed within me of my own experiences there.

Also, many, many people have been hypnotically regressed for various reasons and they relate details of lives they lived on Atlantis as well as Lemuria and even earlier epochs. The accounts generally agree with each other and the previously mentioned sources quite well.

narfellus · June 07, 2004, 07:08:38

How would one find "A Dweller on Two Planets"?

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Did atlantis exist?

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