Dislocation of energy body??

[Tom]

Excess energy could be the problem and grounding removes the excess. It is like a physical injury resulting in swelling around the area. It can deprive other areas by blocking of the flow of energy (or nutrients, in the case of swelling) to them. It is possible to find the deficient areas and energize them so that the system is balanced and a normal flow of energy can be restored, but it is easier and more comfortable to drain off excess energy until the energy can flow more freely and balance itself. Physical exercise, eating heavy food that is high in protein, getting more sleep, herbs like lavender, stones like hematite. The seed syllable of the base chakra is often spelled "LAM" and repeated it can help (the a is more like ah). There are many things which can help and combining some is best.

[amcturbo]

Xanaxjj,
As Tom suggested, this being an Energy problem, perhaps your friend could read "Energy Medicine" by Donna Eden ( http://www.innersource.net ) to learn ways of balancing the energy bodies.

Cheers!
Greg Taylor

"Whatever consciousness may be, it's not a small thing" - Ingo Swann

[amcturbo]

Xanaxjj,
Another book to read would be "Hands of Light" by Barbara Ann Brennan.

Cheers!
Greg Taylor

"Whatever consciousness may be, it's not a small thing" - Ingo Swann

"Oh, I... ain't got no ... body" - David Lee Roth (Van Halen)

[Tisha]

GROUND, grasshopper!  GROUND!!!!!!

A lot of people I've met "complain" about that spacey feeling that comes from moving their "energy" body (don't say dislocate! It implies that something bad happened!) but they secretly LIKE it.  I've been at festivals where looped-out magickal practicioners go on like that for DAYS until they break down completely.  One even got taken away in an ambulance.

These folks liked "complaining" about it too . . . it was an underhanded way of bragging about their magickal abilities.  But boy, did they pay for it in the end . . . with illness, fractured relationships, etc.

If your friend is doing energy work but doesn't know anything about grounding, he is a fool, and he needs help.  My favorite grounding exercise is what I call "the Tree thing."  I plant my butt on the ground and imagine my roots growing deep into the earth.  Then I imagine my branches going high into the sky.  It takes 5 measly minutes, and it works!

Good luck


Tisha

"As Above, So Below"

[Gandalf]

WWHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOHH!

Sounds a bit extreme Tisha.
Fools now are they?

I think you should settle down a bit, sounds like YOU need a bit of grounding!

Douglas

[ralphm]

I don't think Tisha is being extreme. I remember a few people that got spacy and did too much fasting and raw foods and had to be hauled off to mental health. Maybe these people were gedtting off on the spaciness thinking it was some spiritual high and just got themselves totally out of balance. I have had some dissconnected stuff that was helped by a chiropracter that did weird energy work. He called it being "out of phase" and the stuff he did has kept me sane(mostly). Grounding did not help totally, but was better than nothing.

[Tisha]

Actually Douglas, I was perfectly (?)  grounded when I typed that message.  I'm a Taurus, after all, groundedness is a Taurus' natural state.  Sometimes I come across as hysterical or accusatory when in fact I am only being earnest.   I'm trying to work on that . . . i.e., the way I come across in my posts.  Obviously I need to work harder.

I've been doing magickal/energy work for . . . hmmmm . . . (counting) . . . twenty years, almost to the date.  "Grounding" is a part of "Wicca 101" in the magical/pagan community, and in other Spiritual systems if it is not called "grounding" it's called something else.  Pick up a metaphysical book, and grounding is described as an essential aspect of energy work.  

Grounding is among the first things I teach an earnest seeker.

Anyone seriously studying the movement of energy has encountered information on grounding and how important it is.  So if these same people persist in working with energy and NOT grounding, they are fools, yes fools, foolish foolish fooooooolish.  It shows that they are not taking the work very seriously (i.e., they poo-pooh the warnings, denying that anything bad could happen), or that they are confusing that spacey ungrounded feeling with spiritual or magickal power.

I've met thousands of people on this magickal path, and seen a lot . . . the whole continuum, a wild kaliedescope of humanity doing various kinds of energy work.  At festivals, I've worked as a psychic "medic" helping to ground people when things get out of hand.  For many, it is their first time, and all it takes is a quick re-hash of basic grounding techniques and a peanut butter sandwich.  FOR OTHERS, however, they should really know better, and ironically, they resist attempts by others to help them ground.  These are the people who cause crises in major gatherings and are in general a major pain in the a**.  Bless their hearts, these are people who I'd otherwise enjoy being around.

SOOOO, my original opinion stands!  Everyone, pick a grounding technique you like, even if it is just putting your palms on the ground and imagining any spare "off" energy flowing out of you into the grass, and imagining the Earth's energy flowing back into you.  DO THIS EVERY TIME you are coming out of an energy-working session. If you've been neglecting your grounding and feeling "off," this quick fix will totally turn things around for you.  I promise.



Tisha

"As Above, So Below"

[Gandalf]

right, fair enough.

Douglas

[Tom]

I have not done any grounding exercises in a matter of years. There is someone who seems to drain off my excess energy for me and often energy as well which was not excess. Maybe doing some grounding exercises would still be a good idea, but right now I am thinking that shielding would be more important. Under the circumstances, I would say that my lack of intentional grounding methods does not make me foolish.

[kakkarot]

tisha! "fool" eh? i don't ground either. never have. neither does my best friend, whom i taught how to use chi. but then, that may be why i don't need to ground. i use chi rather than magickal energies. that would be strange though for one energy to do that when you have excess and not another. but not too, cause chi is supposed to be a "life" energy and having too much may not do anything bad.

xanaxjj: i suggest that he try to forcefully control the energy. everyone says ground, but if he is doing that and nothing is changing, try:
1. shielding in case it is an attack
2. meditation and relaxation because it might be that his mind needs rest and strength. if his mind is "loosing control" of his energy, it would be good for him to learn to strengthen his mental discipline. if he is too tired as of late (from staying up late at night, for instance) he should not just sleep but also relax while conscious. both the body and the mind should be rested for a healthy person (and rest the spirit too).
3. centering/balancing the energy because with the new attempts he is doing with oobe, it might be unbalancing his "energy body"/spirit/energy.


also, realize that since oob PROJECTING is taking your spirit away from your body, his attempting to oobp and having not been successful so far may be leaving his spirit not as attached to his body as it should be, thereby leaving him in a mentally "funny" state.

~kakkarot

Secret of Secrets

[xanaxjj]

someone from Astral Society has  a problem feeling very disconnected, spacey, and unpleasant for 2 to 3 days after oobe attempts as of late.  [they say they have gotten as far as seeing through their closed eyelids].  anyone have any idea what is wrong here?... people just keep telling him to do grounding exercises.  but what might be the real problem here?