Religion and the Beggining of the End

[amed]

great post..

who needs a middle man between you and the higher source?

not me!  

[shadowatcher]

Thanks for the feedback, I was worried that I was ranting too much for my own good.

[wantsumrice]

Great point!

Although...today i found out that my boss while in a coma had gone to heaven and came back into his body 2 weeks after his accident. so basically he was dead for a while! While in heaven he told me that he saw God and asked him some questions. Couple of these questions completely contradicted my spiritual beliefs. He asked god if there were other beings in the universe and god said, "you will find out on your way to earth". Now, my boss said that he didnt find any beings on the way back therefore we came to the conclusion that there MIGHT not be any. But, who the hell am i talking to through my Pendy?!

Another question was about Heaven and Hell. And god said that there was only one hell and one heaven where dead souls go. Now i thought that dead souls go to the Astral...[?]

This really made me think...

~ivan

[Tab]

want: ya, I'm sure he shot straight up to the seventh plane and became part of universal consciousness. If he was talking to some distinct being, it wasn't god. In that case, he was most likely on the astral. I can't imagine anyone in the world today would be on a high enough vibe to bypass all 5 other planes, or even just the astral. However, remember that in the astral, you see what you want to see. You experience what you think. If he thought it was god, then that's what he got. His experience was probably heavily influenced by his own preconcieved notions on the afterlife and "god". So dun worry about it :\

[wantsumrice]

yeah as i thought, it was his beliefs that changed his version of the astral. I didnt want to belittle his experience nor confuse him so i didnt bring up the topic that it may of been his mind that created what he saw.  

~ivan

[shadowatcher]

The astral plane is all about perception. WHat you want it to be is often what it is.

[shadowatcher]

The churches goal isnt to bring us closer to god. Think for a moment, about England. England was virtually controlled by the church throughout the middle ages. The king was simply a puppet. The real power lay in the church. If the church is really the house of god, then he needs a redecorater.

[shadowatcher]

The church origanally made sense, but its been taken advantage of so much, that its existance is pointless. If you want to go to a holy place, go someplace of solitude. I dont need some old guy yelling psalms at me to get gods message.

[shadowatcher]

95percent of Human beings believe in a higher force. A god, a diety, a budha. A centreal figure(s) who controls mankinds faite. Many of these believe in the bible, either taking its scriptures for fact, or interpreting their mystical teachings into morals and guidelines for a healthy lifestyle. Faith is truly an amazing thing. Thousands of jobs have been created to serve in the alters of god. Yet their is no evidence that god truly exists. Every "miracle" can be explained by science. And those that can't, will eventually. Religion first sprang up for one function: To explain. To explain the natural phenomonae that dominated earth. Lightnig, rain, snow. All these were explained away as "acts of god". But people began exploiting this for their own purposes. Through the entire middle ages, people gave their lives away to "serve god". This ussually involved schemes to cheat people out of their savings so they could go to heaven. If god exists, would he really want people paying their way into his kingdom? In the title, when I say "the Beggining of the End" I mean that religion marks a point in humanities existence. As soon as people began using religion to exploit people, it started going dowhnhill. The crusades were just  a forewarning to the horrible slaughter that would take place. Many muslims are hiding  behind their religion. Jihad! they cry. They claim to be fighting a holy war, but it is anything but holy. The Jewish state, Israel, has created nothing but conflict. The idea of just creating a country, for a religous group, was disastrous. The aftereffects in the area are going to be horrendous. How long will it be before Hamas, or a similar terror group gets their hands on a nuke? And who can blame them for fighting back? The US pays Israel more then 10billion a year to uphold their military presence. Its religion, which is at the base of this conflict, and a thousand others. God would not want his teachings to become a multibillion dollar industry. Do we need priests? I say we dont. All prayers can be done silently, directly to god. Do we need churches? I say we dont. The most holy place is in your own home, where your comfortable and able to relax. Religion is the beggining of the end of humanity. It is the force of passiveness, of assimilation. It strives to strike out originality, destroy freethinkers, and crush creativity. It destroys mankinds natural thirst for freethinking. Throughout all history, mankind has been shackled by the mindless control. Break out. Free yourslef.