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Title: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: kurtykurt42 on January 25, 2010, 11:50:39
I have been following along on a couple other forums about strange spherical objects near the sun. In the past several days there have been over 70 pages on that site where they are discussing this sun right now and the strange objects appearing near it.

Here are several very interesting pictures of the objects, let me know what you guys think.

www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message970474/pg1

*If the link doesn't work you might have to copy and past it into your web browser

http://synchromysticismforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1453&start=10
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: CFTraveler on January 25, 2010, 13:29:59
One more.
http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2010/01/nasa-images-earth-sized-spherical.html
Fascinating.
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: kurtykurt42 on January 25, 2010, 13:35:58
Any idea what they are?
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: CFTraveler on January 25, 2010, 18:25:37
Not a clue.
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: kurtykurt42 on January 25, 2010, 18:53:42
One of the videos you provided in the link described the significance of several crop formations and how they relate to the sun. Crop circles that describe the planet Nibiru and how it is approaching our solar system. And as it does approach, our sun will produce solar flares and coronal mass ejections (CME).

These enormous spheres might be some kind of protective shield that will orbit the sun and prevent it from producing CME's and large solar flares. Which would explain why the sun has been so inactive over the past few months.

Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: CFTraveler on January 25, 2010, 22:20:13
Which would mean someone may be trying to protect us.  Very interesting.
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: zareste on January 26, 2010, 03:44:26
In a galaxy like ours, it's usually safer to say an object is there to destroy something than protect something
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: Stillwater on January 26, 2010, 03:46:41
Interesting. These images actually look authentic... anyone's guess what they might be, but they certainly do look artificial, if you take the ones in the SOHO images to be anything but optic artifacts.

I wonder if they have been there for a while, and people have just not noticed them....
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: Stillwater on January 26, 2010, 03:51:16
QuoteIn a galaxy like ours, it's usually safer to say an object is there to destroy something than protect something

Hard to say...

Since most of us cannot claim to have much contact with non-human, physical, rational intelligences, I don't really think it is possible to make any assertions about what the majority of them might be like, or what sort of intentions they might hold.

But I can agree that it is certainly human nature to suspect foul-play before benificence, if only for the survival value it tend to bring.
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: zareste on January 26, 2010, 04:35:08
I wasn't talking about what most people know
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: kurtykurt42 on January 26, 2010, 08:16:33
I don't think these aliens wanna see their 10,000 year experiment go down the toilet when a gigantic coronal mass ejection wipes out all life on the planet.

- Still don't think anythings going to happen in 2010 - 2012?
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: Stillwater on January 26, 2010, 22:08:24
I feel like those objects, if they are such, are probably quite significant. But I also feel like this is one of those things that may never come up again, and everyone will forget about it, as amazing as it is if those things actually are what people suppose them to be.

We are basically in the dark, since there is no real way that this story can develop, no new way for information to come. I would say it is like the Greek who discovered Jupiter- amazing find, but impossible to know what it was or meant at the time, and no way to find out anything more. If there is an intergalactic "internet" through which other entities are connected, we haven't even learned to read yet.
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: kurtykurt42 on January 26, 2010, 22:12:47
It's pretty obvious (to me at least) that they are objects.

Anything that resembles a sphere the size of earth around our sun is pretty significant. I can't recall anything this big ever happening in the history of the planet. This dwarfs even the creation of the atomic bomb.
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: Stillwater on January 27, 2010, 18:33:33
Perhaps, they are, but you also need to rule out possiblities like optical artifacts, and super-concentrated gas masses. That said, I would also lean toward them being objects, since they seem to block light, and seem to appear in farily regular shapes. I still think it is premature to make judgements without further information, but I also favor the idea that they seem to be objects placed there, if what we are seeing is accurate.
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: kurtykurt42 on January 27, 2010, 18:49:14
Quote from: Stillwater on January 27, 2010, 18:33:33
I still think it is premature to make judgements without further information, but I also favor the idea that they seem to be objects placed there, if what we are seeing is accurate.

Do you really think they will cover this in the news? I wouldn't be surprised if all these spheres were gone tomorrow and we never heard anything about them ever again.
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: Stillwater on January 27, 2010, 20:29:34
Oh, I don't make these statements expecting more information to be forthcoming, but rather just to caution against jumping to a loose conclusion.

I agree- I don't expect major news outlets to cover such a story- and it wouldn't surprise me either if they were gone tomorrow. As I said before, I think we are totally in the dark about what they might be, and we were just lucky enough to catch a glimpse of them because someone spotted them in the images at the right time.

It is like a flight of mallards are on migration, and they get passed by an F22 going the speed of sound... it is a prodigious occurence, but one which they have no way of understanding, only a fleetingly limited image of, no way of gaining any insight into, and one which they shouldn't expect to ever occur again.

I could be wrong, and this could be the beginnings of a massive phenomenon, but I am basically expecting this to be one of those profound, brief occurences which we cannot place.
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: kurtykurt42 on January 29, 2010, 18:58:22
Here's one of the images that seems to have many people puzzled.

(http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx16/Manny18_bucket/Whoppa.jpg)

(http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx16/Manny18_bucket/Whoppa-1.jpg)

One more good one: http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/browse/2010/01/27/behind/euvi/195/2048/20100127_213530_n7euB_195.jpg

NASA's response - those Images near the sun were 'glitches' (http://www.realufos.net/2010/01/nasas-response-those-images-near-sun.html)
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: zareste on January 29, 2010, 21:28:44
Graphics programmer here. The image is compressed a lot, indeed, but a dark object that size does not look like compression. Compression creates blurs and gradients, not clear black shapes in the midst of fuzzy bright areas. In fact when you look at the object, you can see the compression artifacts AROUND it - responding to it - meaning it was there before compression.

Furthermore, it has a clear reflection, although, the reflection seems to be pointing at the camera and not the sun (an object should just be black). The object might be on the other side of the sun, which would explain the reflection, but it would probably be clouded by the sun's halo if that were true, and should be mostly invisible to us.

It's hard to say.

We know we can't trust NASA, and their 'compression' story makes me suspicious. I would have more easily accepted "there was dust on the camera" (although I still wouldn't trust them) but I think rocket scientists should know the difference between a compression artifact and an object.

Pffft, we know stuff is going on up there anyway. No use dissecting pictures when one of us can just astral project to it
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: kurtykurt42 on January 29, 2010, 21:42:02
I thought NASA's reply was rather amusing.

Since you are a graphics programmer, what percent chance would you say that all of these strange 'spheres' are compressions or 'glitches'?
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: Stillwater on January 29, 2010, 22:25:40
I would agree.... the compression thing is a poorly considered response, and vaguely implies they were inelegantly trying to hide whatever it was. Very clumsy, if that is the case.
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: zareste on January 29, 2010, 22:38:19
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on January 29, 2010, 21:42:02Since you are a graphics programmer, what percent chance would you say that all of these strange 'spheres' are compressions or 'glitches'?
I say the chances of compression are 0, all things considered. There is simply no algorithm that would produce such a sharp object and then re-compress it. A glitch... maybe, but the odds have to be 1 in a billion. An electro-magnetic disturbance in the circuits or chips might do it, but usually a disturbance will cause a big block or a long line across the image, not a smooth object and especially not one with a glare.

Those NASA goofballs. Maybe they've just decided "wow these people will believe anything"
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: kurtykurt42 on January 29, 2010, 22:46:26
Quote from: zareste on January 29, 2010, 22:38:19
I say the chances of compression are 0, all things considered. There is simply no algorithm that would produce such a sharp object and then re-compress it. A glitch... maybe, but the odds have to be 1 in a billion. An electro-magnetic disturbance in the circuits or chips might do it, but usually a disturbance will cause a big block or a long line across the image, not a smooth object and especially not one with a glare.

Why am I not surprised...

Quote from: zareste on January 29, 2010, 22:38:19
Those NASA goofballs. Maybe they've just decided "wow these people will believe anything"

Everything but the truth.   :lol:
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: lily moonsong on January 30, 2010, 01:11:51
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-2912-Seattle-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2010m1d27-Giant-UFOs-around-the-Sun-NASA-claims-malfunction-physicist-says-giant-ET-UFOs-use-Suns-star-gate
^read that article!
^watch the videos!

My mind is blown!
Enjoy!
:-D
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: kurtykurt42 on January 30, 2010, 10:06:33
According to Mr. Haramein, every Sun contains a black hole singularity. Advanced extraterrestrial or interdimensional civilizations wishing to access our solar system with large (Earth-sized) spacecraft can do so through the Stargate of our Sun.

Why didn't I think of that!

The January 18, 2010 solar UFO wave constitutes a disclosure of their presence by extraterrestrials – By entering our solar system through the Sun's Stargate and being monitored and recorded by NASA's Stereo spacecraft, extraterrestrial (interdimensional) civilizations have de facto disclosed their presence in space ships as large as the Earth.

You're right lily moonsong, my mind has just been blown as well...  :-D
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: kurtykurt42 on January 30, 2010, 21:34:19
 :-D
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: Stillwater on January 31, 2010, 01:41:07
Well, the "physicist" they interview doesn't sound exactly credible, although if what he is saying is indeed correct, it is utterly amazing- the idea that the way to travel vast intragalactic distances is by using the singularities buried in all stars is fascinating.... it would mean that long distance space travel might not be that inconceivably far in the future for the likes of us (centuries, maybe). But that is provided that what he explicitly admits to be mere theories are true.

On another note, the idea that the vatican owns a near monopoly of equipment and telliscopes observing the sun is not new or even surprising, but it takes a little history lesson of the type you normally never get in school:

When Christianity first came to Rome, it wasn't the only new religion in town, and nor was it even the only salvationist group. The Romans at this time had been largely fascinated with the mysticism of the Egyptians, which was nearing its end at around 100 ad. The Cult of Isis was one major import from this influence, which was concerned with communing with the Goddess, who in turn promised immortality to her subjects, and also, unsurprisingly, with the sun as one of her symbols she shared with other deities, such as Ra. The earliest church which Constantine helped to institute out of the half-clandestine worship of the early Christians had many things in common with this Cult of Isis, and many of the symbols and motifs had actually been integrated into the Vatican.

The vatican has always been fond of Egyptian obelisks as well, probably partially due to this early shared history, and many obelisks were shipped straight from Egypt to Rome. Infact, the entire road to Saint Peter's Basilica, the great cathedral of the pope, is lined with obelisks, and in the piazza directly in front of Saint Peter's, there is a massive Obelisk which was imported in 37 AD, and re-erected there in 1586.


(http://www.tripsource.com/stories/Janet/ItalyImgs/062-St%20Peters.jpg)

I was priveliged to live in Rome for about a year, and I took a class with a famous American historian who lives there, where we would spend 4 hours a week tramping around the city, discussing the supressed histories of all the major fountains in the city, and the symbols of the powerful families of the Vatican and the later free masons which plastered just about every church and cathedral, but normally go overlooked.

There is a well known fountain, the Fountain of the Four Rivers in the very center of another of the colossal piazze of Rome, Piazza Navona, directly in Front of the great chuch of San Agnese.

(http://christiandeme.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/img_1412.jpg)

Now it is well documented in most guidebooks and architectural histories, but none of them really tell the story of what it really represents. The imagery relates to the ideas imparted to the sculptor, Francesco Borromini, by one of the Vatican's historians, Athanasius Kircher. Kircher felt that all the great rivers of the earth are connected via a great feeding chamber, and this theory is embodied in the three European rivers, and the Nile, depicted, which also are meant to correspond to the rivers of Eden.

More importantly, however, is the Obelisk, which Kircher, from his studies of the Egyptian texts, had determined was meant to be a sort of "lightning rod" for the divine essence of the gods from the sun, which would then flow into the place the Obelisk was erected and concentrate. The real reason the Vatican wanted this fountain to be mounted with an Obelisk, was because they wanted to absorb the essence of God flowing from the sun, and concentrate it around their major churches.

With this in mind, it is easy to understand how the Vatican is really a group which derives its heritage from Egyptian and Greek sources, as much as early Christianity, and with this understanding, one can clearly see their interest in observing celestial objects, and principally the sun.

Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: kurtykurt42 on January 31, 2010, 01:47:35
Wow, that sure is a cool fountain!  :-D
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: Stillwater on January 31, 2010, 02:26:42
It really is, and bits and pieces like this really tell the story of what the Vatican is at its core, where it's interests lie, and why it holds a near monopoly on the telliscopes and intruments studying the sun.
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: lily moonsong on January 31, 2010, 11:53:12
If the vatican is so interested in egyptian practices why don't they just practice the old religion and stop pretending to be something else?   :?
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: CFTraveler on January 31, 2010, 14:45:36
Quote from: lily moonsong on January 31, 2010, 11:53:12
If the vatican is so interested in egyptian practices why don't they just practice the old religion and stop pretending to be something else?   :?
Because the 'old religion' doesn't really exist any more.  What we have now is a combination of what was there and how it was absorbed into the 'legal' religion of the time it was instituted, and how it's evolved as time has gone by.
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: kurtykurt42 on January 31, 2010, 20:58:03
Religions baffle me that's for sure.

I went in to a Muslim church today and talked with the priest. One of his students was there next to him and we talked for about 20 minutes. He asked me if I believe in god and was surprised by my words. He was a rather open minded man but not very intelligent. I found our conversation rather enjoyable but I am still no closer to understanding how religions work...
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: horaciocs on January 31, 2010, 21:38:56
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on January 31, 2010, 20:58:03
Religions baffle me that's for sure.

I went in to a Muslim church today and talked with the priest. One of his students was there next to him and we talked for about 20 minutes. He asked him if I believe in god and was surprised by my words. He was a rather open minded man but not very intelligent. I found our conversation rather enjoyable but I am still no closer to understanding how religions work...
I think of religions as an interpretation of aspects of the universe's basis of functioning people still don't understand in the physical. That's why, to most people here in this forum, religions are restraining and limited. We have a rather well-developed sense of reality here.

If we take what we experience while meditating and studying the non-physical as the real deal, we can see all that was left out of some religions and all that was created (imagined/invented) in them.

It feels like they have all been around since man began to wonder what's there to life after death and what's the real purpose of living. Some of them are quite precise, such as buddhism, while others are clearly a byproduct of someone's imagination (see the muslim paradise in wikipedia, for instance).

I'm not saying it's bad to have a religion, everyone is free to do whatever pleases them. It's just that you're bound to end up stuck in a belief system territory once you're through with the physical. (Although most of those BSTs are definitely worth visiting!! haha  :lol: )

*I have stated my opinion from my point of view to this whole situation. However, I can't take my experiences as the ultimate truth and expect the whole world to follow me. For catholics, muslims, buddhists, hindus and all other, what we take as the ultimate truth is nothing but another religion. I think that, all in all, a religion is whatever one believes there is to life beyond the five senses we're used to. There's nothing to gain in overthinking it, just take it as it suits you best.
Title: Re: Earth Sized Spherical Objects Orbitting Our Sun
Post by: kurtykurt42 on January 31, 2010, 21:45:34
I'll have to check out a couple of these BST's when I get a chance. Maybe they can teach me a thing or two about religions!  :lol:

- - -

The grays are the ones I have had the most success contacting thus far. Here are a couple of different looking beings that I have been contacted by lately. Apparently the grays are more interested in me than any of the other guys.  :lol:

(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5987/dsc03642u.jpg)