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It is my intention to expose, identifying, and eliminate the secret societies and their worldwide control from the face of the earth once and for all. Information and exposure to the public is their worst enemy.
Don't forget that WE are the minute men.
Information and exposure to the public is their worst enemy... think about it. We the public have consist of millions of people, the public can spread this message all across the world, and in turn it'll inform the military, and those who are not aware of the secret societies who are controlling them. I am thinking that the military and those who work for the government will turn on those secret societies, and fight against them, along with the public.
I think the public would know what to do. We outnumber these secret societies by A LOT!
Instead of fighting this war on Iraq, let's go to war on the secret societies!
The already informed are already at war with them.
Right now they are just creeping up on them, by exposing it to the uninformed. After a good number of the public have been informed there will be literally millions who would be willing to participate in the war against the secret societies.
The public has all kinds of access to weapons and backed up by the military arsenal.
There wouldn't have to be any bloodshed, as long as the secret societies don't try to defend themselves, but that might not happen. I think they may go out guns blazin, metaphorically and literally speaking.
The point is, I trust the public know what to do.
I don't know about you guys but I am going to spread this message out to everyone. This was a very well written essay I thought, and the fact that it was written as an emergency I think that this can be start of something HUGE.
Do we intend to get our freedom back or not.
You choose.
No offense but frankly I'm sick of hearing of these "theories". Quiet Storm why don't you go outside breathe in some fresh air..smell a rose..something!!
You seem to love basking in these negative, silly conspiracies (yes, I know there are several of ya'll on the forums that just looove the conspiracies) We will never know the truth about 9/11 so why don't we give respect for the people whom lost their lives and move on, say a prayer for them, let them know that they did not die in vain, people learned to love their fellow man and come together on that horrible day. Do you think they are on the other side wanting us to spend our days talking about what ifs and getting all angry?..I think not.
Move on, find your path...I'm not quite sure you are on the right one now. Do you spend all day looking up this stuff, talking to friends about it? If you say yes..well, time to find another hobby.
I'm sorry, it just needed to be said and seeings how it is Mother's day, I get a freebie..[:D]
Hey..there's a thought! Go hug your Mom and tell her thank you for putting up with ya..[:P] Take her to lunch or something..
Nay [^]
Let USA die. I dont care. Its a bad country.
Nay: 9/11 so why don't we give respect for the people whom lost their lives and move on, say a prayer for them, let them know that they did not die in vain, people learned to love their fellow man and come together on that horrible day.
Their fellow man doesnt include people in the east?
Fine Beavis.. include them too. [^] Just stop talking about it..[V] Ya'll find something else to complain about..ok?
Nay
OOOOOOOOOO NAY SAID THE B WORD!!
I'M GONNA TELL ON YOU [;)]
*note to self*
Make a thread and cuss perfusely and see if Nay Bleeps it
*end note*
hahahahaha im j/p j/p gotta calm the issues going on here.
Them theories are crap. Our government has some good sides to them. And i believe they dont care about us either at the same time. but for real, my dad is a TRUE minute man goto our website
www.minuteman1.com
Thats our wheel lift we develop
Were true minutemen.
Explain to me your definition of "negativitiy".
Everything has "light".
I agree, that these sort of topics carry very dense karma.
But the way to find the light, in the karma and become conscious of it, and spreading this awareness can Illuminate the topics.
There is no "negativity", it is just a perspective, it is not truth. Find the "positive" perspectives in these topics and illuminate the Karma that these topics carry by spreading the "light" that is already in them, and make them conscious to everyone, and yourself.
Why only limit yourself to the perspective of these topics with the label of "negativity?"
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Ya'll find something else to grump about..ok?
Were we "bitching?" Is that YOUR perspective or is it truth?
Come on Nay, do you wish to continue to be a slave of your own language?
I tend to look at it more like I am initiating things to occur, and to get the ball rolling by spreading the word to others.
I realize that none of you are willing to fight for your own freedom yet.
I am one of those "Minute Men" but that is only the name the writer of that article chose to give to the Liberals.
I am spreading the truth because the light of truth sets one free, and because I care for my fellow humans I take part in being a truth spreader so that my fellow humans can find their way out of the darkness of the illusion that they are living.
My job for now is to spread the information, sit back and watch as people take matters into their own hands and everything will unfold on its own, because I trust that the public will know what to do once they finally realize that they have been living a lie, trapped in the darkness of the illusion.
Want to join me?
about "conspiracy theories"
that term was created by a government think tank back in the 60's to de-rate and ridicule anything not broadcast by the official news media on the evening news ... there was a famous man that once said ... "never attribute to conspiracy that which can amply be attributed to the actions of a bunch of greedy stupid self serving men in power" ... i would add to this ... " and the majority of people who are fooled into believing these men are honest and have the interests of the populous at heart" - jim mccanney
The only thing we can do is spread this message out to the people, doesn't matter whether they beleive in them or not, the point is to spread the message. The best way for you may not be to spread it to your family and freinds in a direct way, but more of an indirect way. Spread the message to the people on the internet and the other message boards that you participate in. Since you are anonymous, your freinds and family will be informed sooner or later and they won't even have to know that it was you who informed them.
IF the secret socieities choose to have the attack done on Tuesday, THAT will be the start of the revolution, because poeple will remember reading about it.
Then finally we will have the mass awakening we have all been waiting for.
I feel something big coming out of this. I am experiencing alot of resistance from people in other message boards, they treat it as a prank or a joke.
Reguardless of the resistance I think it is progress. Those who are resisting will be in for a quite rude awakening, but nonetheless an awakening.
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~kakkarot
Beavis, if this is such a bad country -- go find another one and move there. Buy a one way ticket. Or stay and make it better if you care to, but you have benefited greatly from the sacrifices of others and perhaps you should learn a bit about those sacrifices before condemning the entire nation of 300 million or so people - most of whom keep on keepin on - no matter what.
And Quiet Storm -- Is there any hairbrained idea you reject?
Perhaps the biggest conspiracy of all is getting people to buy into all these conspiracies - to fixate and obsess about them -- and end up doing nothing to make even one other person's life a little bit better today than it was yesterday.
Get off you duff and go volunteer in a homeless shelter, or a church or a food bank or any number of places and stop obsessing over theories that may or may not be true. If they are true, so what? What can you do about it? Nothing. And like most conspiracies, they will soon implode or die for lack of interest.
I don't care if 6000 families control the planet or aliens are sleeping in our closets or little green reptiles are getting ready to eat us or the President is from Mars or the media is putting subliminal messages into the ads -- none of that can affect my mind nearly as much as my own will to decide what I will believe and who I believe is in control of my thoughts and actions.
As for Chicago being blown up - or whatever - on May 11th, guess that will be my last goodbye as I work just north of downtown. [;)]
I have no doubt that Chicago is a terrorist target as is every other major city in the USA. The true terrorists are out to get us...and that is not just paranoia, they have demonstrated it as fact.
Where and when....who knows? If you want a real conspiracy to investigate, look into that. We will all thank you if you can stop them - permanently.
In the meantime, don't panic. Those 6000 family members are not likely to do anything that affects you. They are too busy with other things.[:P]
I'm sorry Quiet Storm, it seems people here are starting to get a little tired of conspiracies. and in two - three days time you'll probably see that people are even more tired of it.
Here's a thought - are you interested in making any kind of progress towards increased spirituality? If so, leave these ideas behind. they weaken your link to your spirit self by distracting you from what is important - seeking to gain balance between you physical self and your spirit self.
When you start becoming more aware of your spirit self, you start to realise just how far above all of these conspiracies and predictions we can be. So what if some alien race is planning on blowing up the world tomorrow, either themselves, or through getting the US or Chinese government or some terrorist organisation to do it for them. Your spirit is immortal and indestructable. The biological machine you call your body might die, but your consciousness, WHO you are, will always live on. So don't worry.
None of this kind of stuff is really in anyways productive. It's all just fearmongering. Don't seek to live in fear. All that does is weaken your connection to your spirit self and prevent you from beeing strengthened by the love and energy that the universe has invested in your spirit.
Kind regards,
James.
Hi,
Conspiracies do exist at all levels of human endeavour, they always have. And while it IS important for people to know about these things, they can and do take our focus away from keeping balance. So there are very definately times when we need to see and be thankful for what we DO have and accept that which we cannot change. (smelling the roses)
Having said that though, I also feel it important for as many people as possible to be aware of what really is happening around us, as it does impact our life here. And who knows, maybe in the big scheme of things some of us are meant to rally against the machine !
I also understand the attitude of ignoring these things and focusing on light and love, but that too is not balanced ! True balance is inclusive of all realities, it includes the darkness in equal portions to the light. How else can real balance be experienced ? By shunning the darkest apsects of human existence we are effectively forcing ourselves to remain unbalanced and disempowered as a race, in the wider perspective. And that is exactly what the powermongers of this world want from us...to be disempowered so that we give our free will to the governments and powermongers.
We are incarnate in this world right now. We chose to be here for specific reasons that far outweigh the standard little souls at school concept. So we came here to be a part of what is occuring on the earth now, in our lifetimes. Together we can have the power to make very effective changes and prevent the more hideous plans from becoming reality too. But, we still have not found the basis for unity, which is the pre-requisite for this type of action. Surely we can't just sit back and accept that these things may be happening but it's okay coz I am on my path. What if your chosen Soul path is to fight against these conspiracies? And if so, then who can rightfully pass judgement on another ?
As for predictions, while we can have insight into future possiblities and probablities, I have always found it a little insensible to make predictions for exact dates. Most times we are dissappointed when they do not come as we expected. And unfortunately, by making predictions for certain times we are setting ourselves up for all sorts of derision when they do not happen. Which is what James was pointing out in his post too.
Balanced perspective requires that we include all things within our realms, no matter how distasteful they may seem to us or how disconnected they may seem from our perspective of reality. We live in a duality, and as such all things here have multiple characteristics to them, so we are closing oursleves off to them by refusing to see them when we think 'only light and love', because those two things are only part of the whole reality.
We need to show more tolerance here, wether we agree with someone's point of view or not.
Love Always.[:)]
Ok guys, I changed it to complain..[:D] Sorry bout that.
Here's a conspiracy for ya, Quiet.. are you also known as noone in other circles?...[;)]
Nay
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stop obsessing over theories that may or may not be true. If they are true, so what? What can you do about it?
Not obsession, that is your perception, so don't state it as it was truth. I am just determined to play my part in the revolution and "fight against the machine" according to Yaesin. [;)]
What can I do about it? Think! What am I already doing?
"Exposure to the public is their worst enemy"
I KNOW these secret societies are real.
You can't make me stop doing what I am doing.
Listen, everyone. Let us get to the bottom of this. I am TOTALLY aware of what I am doing here. Everyone here has been condemning my path, and wishing that I would go and do something else. Just think for a moment that what I am here to do, is EXACTLY what I am supposed to be doing, because in the bigger scheme of things there is purpose behind this, as well as every single Now moment. Whatever that purpose may be to you, even if its not the same purpose for me, just know that THERE IS a purpose to everything, and know that the purpose is for a "higher good" that will come of it later.
I think alot of you carry big egos, where you think you are higher than someone because you may think yourself to be more "spiritual" than another.
How can you be "spiritual" when you are looking through your own viel of perception, ridicule, and judgement. Not only that, how can you be totally conscious of your self when you are still functioning with polarities as seperate, and still controlled by the language which you use?
I am just as conscious as all of you are. I am just as aware as anyone else here, perhaps even more.
SO WHAT I am young JenaDots? Does that automatically make me less conscious of myself than you are, or anyone else older than me?
Yea you might have had more experience, but did you LEARN from those experiences?
Please just let me be, I know exactly what I am doing, and I know that I have purpose in doing everything that I am doing.
no need for malice nay>?
i think the function of conspiracy theories is to make people aware that things may not be as they seem- so if it leads them into contemplating whatever theory it is then its served a good purpose in making people *think* outside the bounds of normal, routine life.
Yes some are outlandish but in a way there existence teaches people to question and ponder.
James S I know exactly what you are talking about.
I am on "the path" which is my path. I know what it is your are speaking about, I am spiritual.
Please, no more of this "spiritual" talk, can you all already accept that I am on the path as you are, and don't try to persuade me to a path which you think would be beneficial for me?
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None of this kind of stuff is really in anyways productive. It's all just fearmongering. Don't seek to live in fear.
I don't know why you are perceiving that I am seeking to live in fear. It surely isn't truth, nobody else has stated that here, and I sure as hell didn't either. Who says that you can't live without fear when you are aware of the physical reality? Do all aware people automatically have to be fearful and paranoid by default?
It is possible for one who is spiritual, to be able to expose oneself to the truth about the physical reality and be aware of what is going on, without "going crazy" or "paranoid/living in fear".
Although it does take some alertness, but I am not willing to operate on very dense lower vibrations like fear.
It wasn't malice [:O]..that is a nic name on another site, and I just had the feeling it was the same person...[;)]
Wow..I'm harsh sometimes but not THAT harsh..[}:)]
Nay
Whats going to happen is what is going to happen, James is dead on about this one, we need to not worry about it, nearly all bad things happen when least expected, many things in life are like that, both good and bad. Think about it, when people give these "warnings" they usually never happen. Its the stuff that you cant see that gets you. People that do predict this kind of stuff will have their own call in tv show. But i havent seen many of those so my guess is that they are usually wrong.
Quiet Storm,
Fear aside, I still submit that these prophesies and conspiracies have no productive value to one following a path of greater connection to one's own higher spirit self, and ultimately the path to God (however you chose to define God).
Being aware of such things is fine, as ignorance is a curse. But when you post a prophesy of death and destruction such as this, especially with a title of "Emergency Announcement", That suggests to me that you are going beyond just acknowledging the "truth" of this physical reality, it suggests a fear of it.
I'm not about to even suggest to you what path you should or should not follow, and I will leave the word "spirituality" out of it if you don't like that term. But any path that we seek that would bring us into better understanding of our spirit, and the spirit world, is not well served by paying heed to prophesies of destruction. As Yerzak06 said, what is going to happen is what is going to happen. Our spirits and the spirit world around us is above such things.
Sure we still need to live in the physical world, and be aware of what's going on around us - we can't all retreat to some monestary or convent somewhere, but the more we pay attention to the fearful things of this world, and no matter what you say such prophesies as you have posted do deliberately give rise to fear, the more we become anchored in the physical and lose touch with the spirit.
Regards,
James.
"Please just let me be, I know exactly what I am doing, and I know that I have purpose in doing everything that I am doing."
Sigh...good luck then bud. Take advice from James, he isn't far from the truth.
~ivan
This prediction isnt as bad as most because the date is soon. We'll see tomorrow if its right.
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Being aware of such things is fine, as ignorance is a curse. But when you post a prophesy of death and destruction such as this, especially with a title of "Emergency Announcement", That suggests to me that you are going beyond just acknowledging the "truth" of this physical reality, it suggests a fear of it.
Who said I prophesied these things? This was from the link I posted at the end.
I beleive that, IF these things were planned, spreading out the news would either 1. Prevent it from happening because too many poeple would know, and 2. If it did happen, it would cause people to realize what is going on here.
Nay, I asked about the people in the east because 9/11 caused more hate there than love here. Overall, it taught people to hate.
You have your way of looking at it Beavis, I have mine. [^]
I guess you could say I see the glass as half full and you see it as half empty..
Nay
I like to see the glass as both at the midpoint, but I'll choose one if its low or high.
I dont like to talk as much about things I agree with most people about. I can think about that without them. The difference of opinion is what interests me. So if theres some part of a discussion that seems weird or wrong to me, I'll be more likely to talk about that than what most people agree on which probably wont change regardless of what I say.
Hehehehe...ahhhh now I see, you love to argue! [:P]
*runs away from Beavis*
Nay
only if there is something good to argue about. I'm not going to argue if mozarella cheese tastes better than swiss.
Mozzarella by far! [:D][:P] deep fried..Mmmmmmmm...*drool* Unless you're talking about Ham and swiss, melted of course... really hard to say. Uh, I'm getting off topic, not to mention hungry..
Nay [;)]
yea, i agree with that. Its kind of gay that you cant prove the people wrong, cuase they will just say they prevented it. Its like me saying that im going to die in Las vegas tomorrow, but if i dont go im preventing it. There is no way you cant say i wasnt going to die tomorrow.
Hey Nay, I agree with you on alot of things, and i say this one thing, NOONE should argue with you! *Hug*
You people are argueing bout some nonsense.
Stop it. non of you people know bout the minutemen.
I do, I am a minuteman! I and true to the name.
www.minuteman1.com
Hahahahaha...Wise man you are Kerrblur!
Do I pay you now or later?...[:P]
Hugs~ Nay
Speaking of 911 and the Al-Queda, does anyone have any proof that Osama bin Laden's men actually had anything to do with it. I mean everyone who saw the people that hijacked those planes are dead and all evidence (like the black box) are hidden away in some vault. So can we really say that the Al-Queda actually boarded those planes and sent them to the ground. I think not.
Just makes you think about things and how easy people except things as truth especially in dire situations.
Is arguing really that bad? Exchange some ideas. Let the other person or yourself change their mind. Arguing is a force against conformity.
No arguing isn't really that bad Beavis, as long as we keep talking about cheese...I'm cool with that..[;)]
Nay [:D]
Ok if you insist. I like the orange cheese.
4-pm - Chicago still standing. No attacks yet. Might let you know otherwise at Midnight, if I am still awake.
Obviously another "Oops - wrong again!" [:O]
Follower of the Khuli,
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Speaking of 911 and the Al-Queda, does anyone have any proof that Osama bin Laden's men actually had anything to do with it. I mean everyone who saw the people that hijacked those planes are dead and all evidence (like the black box) are hidden away in some vault. So can we really say that the Al-Queda actually boarded those planes and sent them to the ground. I think not.
I always had a feeling that something was "up" with 9/11. So, I've "wasted" a lot of time looking into it and I've seen a wide range of theories. If we are just talking about what the physical evidence shows, it seems pretty clear that there was at least more done to allow 9/11 to happen than there was to prevent it. I remember way back comming across a very detailed pamphlet, that was well documented, explaining much of the odd things that happened on that day. I'm sure I have it saved somewhere or could easily find it on the 'ol internet. (But don't take my word for it)
The most wild theories I've heard have the planes being controlled by the military or people in the governmetn via remote control. I've gone and found a link to one of the many detailed 9/11 sites on the net: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jpdesm/pentagon/investigation77.htm If you go down to section three, it discusses and provides links to information about the issue you have with the suppossed Al-Queda hijackers.
Weird weird stuff. Yummy brain candy ;) with emphasis on candy.
Well, maybe Chicago is safe today. However, Mexico is being invaded by aliens.
http://rense.com/general52/deff.htm
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The UFO Phenomenon in Mexico has been recognized as a fact in an historic and unprecedent decision taken by the mexican Department of Defense under his Secretary of Defense General Clemente Vega Garcia, commander of all armed forces in this country.
The insolit meassure that will change history here in Mexico was the result of a high level incident in wich a mexican Air Force airplane, military pilots and personal were involved in a situation with several UFOs while doing a routinary suveillance antinarcotics operation to detect a drug smuggling flight.
The news was released last night, Sunday May 9, 2004 by Jaime Maussan, researcher and tv journalist during the tv show Los Grandes Misterios del Tercer Milenio (Great Misteries of the Third Millenium) broadcast by mexican tv network Multimedios Television in the city of Monterrey, N.L.
Jaime Maussan announced that on Tuesday May 11 there will be an international press conference to present the case and the investigation made by the Department fo Defense along with Maussan's research team in an unprecedent colaboration. The press conference will take place at the Hotel Sevilla Palace in Mexico city at 11:00 AM were all the international media representatives have been invited. Previously on Monday's night an advance report will be broadcast on national television newscast.
All the facts and materials of the investigation will be presented at the conference including the official footages by the Air Force as well as interviews with the pilots and personal involved in the amazing incident.
here is my question, why would osama declare that he did it just to have the US after him and spend the rest of his life in hiding. Who would want to do that?
I have heard that mexico has alot of UFO stuff. I guess the aliens got bored with the new mexico and went back to the old one.
Occording to the information given in links on the page that I listed a link for [:D] Osama never admitted to being responsible for 9/11.
Then what was all that about sending in a video tape addressing his position.
It was faked, of course ;)
I really don't know. I had given up the subject of 9/11 a while ago. Too much candy gives me a tummy and head ache
Last time it was somewhere around March or April they said Chicago was going to be attacked, but everyone caught on to it, so instead of it happening the government said that for the rest of the year we will experience alot of terrorist attempts.
Their next move is to bring America down, but if people spread the info/speculation/predictions they get on future attacks, then we can delay them, just like we did last time, and perhaps even today if they were planning on it.
The point is, even if they weren't planning on it, spreading the info will delay an attack, or postpone it if they were.
I think whoever wrote the article based his or her info on speculation from others, perhaps word from others, information, celestial alignments, patterns, and numerology to determine the plans to have the attack done today.
These secret societies really like to play with esoteric things like celestial alignments, magick and numerology.
Remember 9/11? The next week the lottery numbers were 911. I think thats a sign that they use magick to subtly make the world aware that something bigger is behind all the things happnening in the world.
Bin Laden wasn't behind 9/11, he was used as a scapegoat to put the blame on.
quietstorm,- who are you? a[?]nd why don't you ever question stuff?
why is the world so organized?[?]
I never get into any clubs., illuminati seems cool, why can't I be a co-conspirator?[:(]
alas
now I only can sit here and spew out radical accusations against the american government and other things, , I heard that 9/11 is a number that you call in emergency times.[|)]
*sniff* let me in the club! *sniff*[8][8][xx(]
I wanna make sure that there is always more hotdogs than buns
I wanna make-sure that the alien technology is incorperated into my cutlass supreme
I wanna go into the secret rooms inthe white house and drink dragonblood, all the while chanting hymns from the book of the dead
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damn I mis-pronounced -Tchat Tchilat- I will now be turned into the omlete of opression. STARVE THE RICH, sucumb to your innermost desire TO PURCHASE KRAFT PRODUCTS.....[8][8],. I see you envy of my neck, NOTHING SO CARNAL AND EVIL as croutons, Ishallbecomeonewiththepizza,
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"chaos creates conspiracy"!!![:O]
that should be a band name,
[:P][:)]
see how much inaneness creates something so poetic?
so I will finish off with this,
Quietstorm, change your style of poems.
Halfphased,
"Well, maybe Chicago is safe today. However, Mexico is being invaded by aliens."
And here's me thinking that the U.S. keeps being invaded by aliens from Mexico![:D][:D]
So....Quiet Storm......
......its the 12th here now!
No news reports of death and disaster from the U.S.
Another dud prophesy huh? How many does that make it now?
Was that really worth all the effort?
[|)]
James.
Theres still 9.8 hours until its the 12th everywhere in the 48 united states.
*Gives James S a nuggie* [:D]
hehehehe
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why don't you ever question stuff?
Why do you assume that I haven't?
Do you question the information that you read?
In response to: "Do you question the information that you read?"
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I am the messiah. I will be the one who saves this world and it's beings during the 2012 incident, and I also will be the leader of all the humans there after.
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Questioning what you read is even more important in the journey to enlightenment. If you don't question, you don't think, if you don't think, you don't gain, if you don't gain, you don't learn. Simple as that.
~ivan
Well, IMO I think it was worth all the effort because like I said, if it was being planned it has been prevented. As long as it has a slight chance of being true and being prevented that is all I care.
Well said Ivan.
I think there are too many assumptions, and perceptions flying around about me, that don't need to be.
If you would read all my other posts, you would know that I have questioned everything.
Everything is a illusion, and everything, even matter is a product of the imagination. Aliens, planet X, the apocalypse, secret societies, everything, is a product of our own imagination. We created the bondage on ourselves, and it has manifested into physical form, so that outside influences can have bondage on us now, but it is also a product of our imagination that we are breaking free from it.
"Everything is a illusion, and everything, even matter is a product of the imagination. Aliens, planet X, the apocalypse, secret societies, everything, is a product of our own imagination. We created the bondage on ourselves, and it has manifested into physical form, so that outside influences can have bondage on us now, but it is also a product of our imagination that we are breaking free from it."
Exactly, then why are you wasting your precious time on conspiracy theories? For all you know there could be millions of them, or none at all! [:)] Conspiracy theories may be fascinating, but they are not worth the time.
~ivan
Well something bad did happen today between america al al queda. They beheaded and american business man on tape. i dont think it has anything to do with chicago.
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And here's me thinking that the U.S. keeps being invaded by aliens from Mexico![:D][:D]
as a person living in texas that is very true.
If a topic is never brought up then it can never be known. If no one knows about it then what good is it. The least this topic can do is bring a potential problem to light. No more, no less. No reason to get up in arms about it.
Yerzak, the reason why someone would claim to have done something they didn't would be for fame. It happens all the time on all different levels. It is kind of like Bill Gates with Windows. Also, doing something so destructive would help Osama's street cred. I mean if you can go out amongst a large group of oppressed young people and say, "Hey, I was the guy who screwed up America on 9/11," and not get any support then you must really suck. This is a big propaganda machine really. Whether he did it or not, it really helped people rally behind his cause and if he did do it then he is quite the opportunist.
Osama and "duh boys" did it. All the hijackers have been traced directly back to him. He has, on a number of occassions, bragged on it. Why would you think that this brilliant, but murderous, man couldn't have doneit and someone in the government did?
No matter what the USA and its government may or may not be, it is not that insane. I suppose some of you think the Spanish government blew up those trains and the people who beheaded a young American today were paid to do so by the CIA. Some sort of USA conspiracy?
There are all kinds of conspiracy theories to explain away the awfulness of it all because dealing with the reality of it is so intense.
Sometimes things are just as they appear to be. And all the crazy theories in the world can't change that.
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Osama and "duh boys" did it. All the hijackers have been traced directly back to him. He has, on a number of occassions, bragged on it
In fact, as I recall the news on 9/11, Osama and co. finaly did "recognize" they were responsible for that quite a long time after the event. It's after hearing the US yelled "Osama! Osama! It's Bin Laden!", that they made a declaration... Which is weird. Why did they wait so long?
Hi,
One thing we can't assume in our times is that anyone can rely on their government not doing anything to hurt them. Human history is littered with the graves of people who believed that they could. The US government is not alone in this, it is a world-wide scenario.
As president of a research group here I have had access to many interesting and un-reported things. Many would curl your hair Jennadots. Many have come from un-arguable sources.
Some research should be done into the changes of the US constitution over recent years, paying particular attention to the changes allowing government to experiment with various weapons on the US population without need to inform the public. I do not know the exact location of these items, only that the changes were made.
Further research into what is public information (hopefully it still is)may bring to light meetings Envoys had with Osama held in a Saudi hospital more than six months before september 11, while Osama was being treated for appendicitis. (And on the US most wanted list) At the same time other Envoys were at meetings in Afghanistan informing the Taliban when the bombing would commence. Take it or leave it, research for yourself.
There were Siesmographs showing two spikes seconds before the fall of each tower. When considering the energy that was recorded in these spikes it is entirely possible that micro-nukes could have been used in the bowels of the building. Just as they were in the rainwater drain under the Sari club street in Bali. Interestingly, there was a zero radiation level recorded, which points to one and only one source for the particular type of enriched plutonium required for this outcome...guess who? Yep, the joint US and Israeli enrichment plant in 'the holy land'.
I can not supply links or other sources for this information. Try your own research, as Mulder used to say, "The truth is out there."
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yea, I saw the video of the beheading.
This is interesting, I found this here: http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=2569
News Updates from Citizens for Legitimate Government May 11, 2004 http://www.legitgov.org/ http://legitgov.org/index.html#breaking_news
Oddities surrounding the execution of Nick Berg: Berg was a prisoner of the U.S. military in Iraq. West Chester contractor missing in Iraq (May. 08, 2004, Associated Press) Nick Berg, 26, owned a business called Prometheus Methods Tower Service Inc. He first went to Iraq on Dec. 21. He stayed until Feb. 1, making contact with a company that indicated there would likely be work for him later. But he returned on March 14 and there was no work, so he began traveling. He usually called home once a day and e-mailed several times; Michael Berg is his business manager, and they needed to stay in touch... When FBI agents arrived at the Berg's West Chester home on March 31, they were relieved to know their son was alive, but in jail. The agents questioned them about various details that only they and their son would know about. Jerri Williams, spokeswoman for the Philadelphia FBI office, said the agency was "asked to interview the parents regarding Mr. Berg's purpose in Iraq." On April 5, the Bergs filed suit in federal court in Philadelphia, contending that their son was being held illegally by the U.S. military in Iraq. The next day, April 6, Nick Berg was released. Nick Berg said he would come home through Jordan, Turkey or Kuwait... The Bergs have hounded the State Department, the FBI and the International Committee of the Red Cross, seeking information. Michael Berg said the State Department sent an official to Nick Berg's hotel, where an employee told the official they had not heard of him. [Question: In the video where Nick Berg is beheaded, why is he wearing an orange jumpsuit, as US prisoners wear? -observation/news item submitted by CLG reader Johnny Asia]
Berg interrogated by FBI for two weeks (May 7, 2004 5:27 pm US/Eastern) Among those missing in Iraq is a West Chester, Pa. man who went there on his own in March to inspect damaged radio towers... 26-year-old Nick Berg didn't sign a privacy waiver when he went over there. And even though the State Department is using its one person in Iraq to help track him down, they can't tell anyone, including Berg's parents what's going on. Nick last checked in April 9th, saying he was trying to find a safe way home following two weeks of FBI interrogation, after an arrest in Mosul. He was released after his identity and intentions were confirmed.
Now that is interesting.... could the FBI have something to do with this? Perhaps even the planning of this?
Here's another article that has to do with this: http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=2573
On another but also related note, if there was no 9/11 conspiracy, then someone tell me exactly why did they burn the tape of one of the 9/11 planes so that it wouldn't be released to the public, why there was no plane debris around the pentagon on the day of the disaster, why on the 2 frames that were released of the pentagon being hit by a projectile shows a very small object that looks more like a missile than a plane hitting the pentagon, and why did the CIA keep the president from knowing about what was going to happen months before it did (http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=2558), and why are they also saying that the president knew about the attacks a long time before it happened, but was doing nothing about it to prevent it?
After all these questions, one has to realize that there is something way bigger than what was propagated in the media. I have my theories on it, but it may seem too "outlandish" for ones that still think inside their box.
EMERGENCY ANNOUNCEMENT MAY 8, 2004
For some time a number of Minutemen (the same type of men who actively defended this country during our own Revolution that gave us our Constitution ... and whom president bush in a recent speech called outlaws and criminals) ... these minutemen have been studying the patterns and manners of the secret societies that brought you 911 and have infiltrated every corner and aspect of our federal government (and many state and local governments). As most of you know the secret ruling families are in control of the governments of the world including the militaries, military-industrial complex, the financial centers of the world, the commodities markets of the world, the press and news agencies and are in an all-out effort to bring down the United States as the next move to bring about their planned one world government with themselves as ultimate leaders. The fingers of these societies reach into every town in America through their control of certain secret groups (can you guess which groups these are in your community???) whose goal is the control of the local aspects of every community.
The Minutemen of whom I speak do not carry arms and weapons as it would be pointless against the armies of goons, hired thugs and Mafia hit men now in the employment of the secret societies, and whom are backed up all the way up to B-52 bombers with nuclear weapons. They have been responsible for the development of Bio terrorism agents, as well as all forms and sorts of hideous ways to control and dominate the public. They have armies at their command in all countries of the world including the United States. Many of these are controlled by egos and by other methods developed centuries ago by the forefathers of today's secret societies. These methods work today just as well as they worked hundreds of years ago.
The Minutemen have been working for sometime to determine the patterns and basis of operation of the secret societies in an effort to predict their movements in the deadly chess game they play on the earth with the average person has there pawns. The secret societies are the groups who sat in meetings and decided that America needed to be attacked on 911. Make no mistake, it took thousands of people in a coordinated effort to pull off 911. It was not a bunch of camel jockeys from the Mideast as the news media was told to portray. There are many factors in the basis of those attacks including celestial alignments, numerology, political factors, financial factors combined with their demented need to control in an ultimate manner.
In trying to examine the past we are attempting to predict the future based on indicators and weighting factors. Recently the dials of the indicators have all begun to point strongly in one direction. It is based on this set of indicators that with great reservation I make this emergency announcement.
Based on the factors that we have been able to uncover and based on upcoming factors, our indicators tell us that on May 11, 2004 this coming Tuesday the secret societies may be planning an attack on the heartland of the United States. To the best of our ability to forecast based on the many factors of past events and also based on our estimates of what the secret societies need to do to move onwards in their plan to advance a one world government, it appears that the site of the possible attack would be the commodities market in Chicago Illinois with silver being targeted specifically although not exclusively.
There are less than 6000 family members in the secret societies worldwide that control the governments, financial centers, militaries, military production facilities, commodities, energy production facilities, news media and last but not least the top-down ability to move quickly into action in every community and local government in the United States. For example does your community have a new police and fire station ??? these have been built all over for a reason. It is my intention to expose, identifying, and eliminate the secret societies and their worldwide control from the face of the earth once and for all. Information and exposure to the public is their worst enemy.
The above estimate is purely speculation based on factors that we have been able to put together as noted above based on past and future indicators. This is not an exact science and I do not make these kinds of statements regularly. I have made statements similar to this in the past and there are a good many people who believe that we have prevented 911 types of scenarios based on those past announcements.
link: http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/EMERGENCY%20ANNOUNCEMENT%20MAY%208%202004.HTM