(does a jig)
Yeah I could use a beach near my home in arizona...its basically one without the ocean anyways. I say bring it on![:P]
(Drinks a beer)
Pole Shift Data Collection Site
http://www.osasleuths.org/Main/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=3430
Can anyone find a link to this in the American Journal of Science? I was unable to find one online.
If this is true, I guess I'm glad I live high in the mountains in Colorado. Of course, I'm sure it would be overrun with refuges and food supplies would be scarce, so it would suck just as much as the rest of the world. Good time to learn to be a breatharian, I guess. But they still need water.
Water expands when it freezes, and 90% of icebergs are underwater, I think that a lot of the predicted sea level increases are overestimates.
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Originally posted by Logic
Water expands when it freezes, and 90% of icebergs are underwater, I think that a lot of the predicted sea level increases are overestimates.
Exactly!
more "practical" scientists have pointed this out, using the basic demonstration of a full glass of water with an ice cube. The ice cube melts, but the glass doesn't overflow.
Only trouble here is this is true for the Arctic, which is only floating ice, but not true for the Antarctic, which is a solid snow/ice covered land mass.
James.
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Originally posted by James S
Only trouble here is this is true for the Arctic, which is only floating ice, but not true for the Antarctic, which is a solid snow/ice covered land mass.
James.
hmm, build a dam around it!!
Change happens and the earth has its cycles - cycles that are much longer than our limited life spans.
Perhaps it is just a way of cleansing itself - or a big recycling of melting, injecting new waters, and then melting again.
As to how we can survive -- well, there is hydrophonics if the various governments can plan well enough to keep everyone supplied with electricity and grow lights. Electricity - and solar and wind energy can keep us warm and melt the ice in the backyard for water.
In the USA we have more coal than we could ever use to make charcoal for grilling and heating foods if necessary.
In its most extreme scenario, it may seem like the end of the world as our species experiences a massive die off along with the other species that we share our planet with. But some will survive and the earth will renew itself as it has many times before.
One can hope that our governments begin to develop contigency plans so survival is possible, even if not as comfortable as the lives we have today.
If not, well then just consider that death is not an option for us, it a requirement and something we must all face sooner or later. Obviously, later is better and going quietly and peacefully in old age is what we all prefer. Unfortunately, it doesn't always happen that way.
In any case, yesterday is gone and tomorrow is just a hope. And I have a lot of hope that nature will yet be kinder to us than we have been to it.
And since I plan to retire in Colorado, I too would appreciate an ocean view in my old age...[;)]
Jena
Where I am sitting as I type this was under about 1000 feet of ice 50,000 years ago. Deal with it. Most of North America was glaciated. When the ice age ended, we lost the saber tooth tiger and the wooly mammoth (as well as some species of Rhinocerous). Whose to say it's still not ending?
Besides, the loss of Florida isn't that big a deal ;)p
Weather patterns and natural disasters are changing for sure. The jet stream's changed, earthquakes and volcanic activity is on the rise as well as hurricanes and tornadoes, and temperature changes as well. Global warming and flooding are by no means impossible or even unlikely. Science has only been around for a few hundred years in Western culture, and much less around the world. We know things like this have happened all through our past, but science hasn't been around long enough to experience such a change first hand. I think it's about to, though.
On top of what was presented in Runlola's post, European scientists have estimated that European winter altogether may cease to exist through parts of Europe as soon as 2080. That could potentially make a desert out of Europe, similar to what happened in Africa.
As far as rising sea levels from melting ice, here's something I found on a site's FAQ about such things:
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To a first approximation, if all the floating sea ice in the world melted, there would be no change in sea level at all, as the floating ice will have displaced its own weight of water. However, if land ice melts, that will raise sea level. All the world's glaciers and small ice caps contain approximately 0.5 m of sea level equivalent between them, while the great Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets contain approximately 7 and 61 m respectively. Consequently, if all the wolrd's ice melted in a very much warmer world, sea level would be approximately 70 m higher.
However, when land ice melts the distribution of the mass of water around the global ocean is by no means uniform. A large melting would result in a modification in the Earth's gravity field which would result in the sea level change being higher in some places than in others.
Enough to cause a worldwide flood easily if we heat up enough. Doesn't even have to reach 70 meters to kill millions. Doesn't even have to rise half that much.
What's also interesting to note is that these changes aren't unique to Earth. Most notably is the Sun, which is showing more activity recently than it has since we started observing it. If I remember correctly, it's displayed more activity in the last couple years or so than it has in about all the years of the past century combined. Then of course Pluto's warming up as it moves away from the Sun, Venus's atmospheric chemical make-up is changing, unusual storms have been rampaging on Jupiter and Saturn, and Mercury has been reported to be developing ice caps. So whatever's going on is apparently affecting our whole solar system. [:)]
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Originally posted by no_leaf_clover
On top of what was presented in Runlola's post, European scientists have estimated that European winter altogether may cease to exist through parts of Europe as soon as 2080. That could potentially make a desert out of Europe, similar to what happened in Africa.
I though the warm air currents are no longer moving to Europe, atleast as much as before and decreasing, causing the opposite effect.
I just based that on this article:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=570&ncid=570&e=1&u=/nm/20040818/sc_nm/environment_europe_warming_dc_2
Honestly I just skimmed over it, and really I'm too tired right now to read all of it. I read enough to see there's apparently some kind of trend but I'd check the whole article if I was really wondering, and even if it doesn't say anything about what you're talking about, you might be able to do a Google and find counter evidence.
I surely hope nothing major will happen to Europe but unfortunately that's not going to do a whole lot of good either way probably.
i guess the question here is not whether or not things will happen, but rather, are you looking to much into it and are they too far off to really consider? OR, perhaps the media is only giving us this information so no one asks any questions and keep s a general calm for the time being.
which is it?
everything and nothing.
The possibilities are always great, but to the extent the media/net/individuals believe or are trying to propose? That will always be the question. Time is all we have as evidence of anything.
Stange things are happening in this world, that's for sure... and I am feeling different too! I know something is about to happen that will change mankind for ever! and I'm not talking years but months... I'm deeply concerned about my 2 kids as should any parent.
Just keep your eye out for the astertoid 10 miles (16km) wide named Toutatis which will Graze earth on 29th September 2004. If the asteroid hits us it'll devaste half of the worlds population and create a tidal wave 17 miles (27km) high.
Toutatis is one of the strangest objects in the solar system, with a highly irregular shape and an extraordinarily complex "tumbling" rotation. Both its shape and rotation are thought to be the outcome of a history of violent collisions.
But I'm not saying this will be the cause.... Mankind is already doing a fantastic job of causing global warming.
Indeed... But they can't say for definite it won't hit either.
If the course of the asteroid isn't changed because of some unusual occurence (hit by another big asteroid, for example), it most certainly won't hit earth. Calculations have been proved to be quite accurate in the past, so I wouldn't worry about this one.
It's far more likely to be hit by an asteroid which will be detected when it's too late. Too few observatories are actually looking for them, afaik, so many parts of the sky are not observed well enough.
The human race and the earth is dying a slow death. It is too late save our planet now, especially with new uprising technology.
End of the world? Not today.
Dear Dark Apprentice, The earth is not dying....changing perhaps, but our remarkable planet has its own system of self-renewal.
We, as a species, may someday go the way of the dinosaurs or may evolve into another, better species. No one knows.
And on the bright side, scientists announced today that the hole in the Ozone layer over the South Pole has shrunk by 20%. That is good. They aren't sure why, but it is a measureable improvement.
The real problem isn't that the planet is dying, but what over 6 billion people on it are doing to it. Some think the earth's capacity is 10 billion of us and that is likely to occur in the next 25 to 50 years. The problem is there are already too many of us overtaxing ecosystems just to have food and water. Throw in the pollution from all the "stuff" we think we need and the irresponsibility of governments, corporations, and individuals and I agree it is quite a pig-sty.
On the other hand, there are more trees in North America than there were a few hundred years ago. Yes, there are...doesn't quite make up for the destruction of the world's rain forests all along the equator, but those countries may see reason yet. Of course, most of those countries are not willing or culturally able to manage their birth rates so more and more people are clearing away more and more forest areas.
Probably a better population for the planet is half what it is today. But who gets to live and who gets to die...and who gets to decide. I wouldn't want to decide that, would you?
I do believe that we as a species, and our planet, are still salvageable and worth saving. How that can be accomplished is the real question. We know what needs to be done, yet no country seems really willing to do it. At least not yet. Maybe things have to get a lot worse before those who have the real power in the world will do those things.
Or maybe the rest of us will finally find a way to throw the bums out if they don't.
We are all here today. Tomorrow is just an anticipation. We may be approaching an end to certain kinds of civilization but I doubt if we are at the end of the world or the end of all life on this planet.
Life, in whatever form, always seems to find a way to exist and grow.
In other words, your despair may be a bit of an over-reaction.
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Originally posted by Jenadots
End of the world? Not today.
Dear Dark Apprentice, The earth is not dying....changing perhaps, but our remarkable planet has its own system of self-renewal.
We, as a species, may someday go the way of the dinosaurs or may evolve into another, better species. No one knows.
And on the bright side, scientists announced today that the hole in the Ozone layer over the South Pole has shrunk by 20%. That is good. They aren't sure why, but it is a measureable improvement.
The real problem isn't that the planet is dying, but what over 6 billion people on it are doing to it. Some think the earth's capacity is 10 billion of us and that is likely to occur in the next 25 to 50 years. The problem is there are already too many of us overtaxing ecosystems just to have food and water. Throw in the pollution from all the "stuff" we think we need and the irresponsibility of governments, corporations, and individuals and I agree it is quite a pig-sty.
On the other hand, there are more trees in North America than there were a few hundred years ago. Yes, there are...doesn't quite make up for the destruction of the world's rain forests all along the equator, but those countries may see reason yet. Of course, most of those countries are not willing or culturally able to manage their birth rates so more and more people are clearing away more and more forest areas.
Probably a better population for the planet is half what it is today. But who gets to live and who gets to die...and who gets to decide. I wouldn't want to decide that, would you?
I do believe that we as a species, and our planet, are still salvageable and worth saving. How that can be accomplished is the real question. We know what needs to be done, yet no country seems really willing to do it. At least not yet. Maybe things have to get a lot worse before those who have the real power in the world will do those things.
Or maybe the rest of us will finally find a way to throw the bums out if they don't.
We are all here today. Tomorrow is just an anticipation. We may be approaching an end to certain kinds of civilization but I doubt if we are at the end of the world or the end of all life on this planet.
Life, in whatever form, always seems to find a way to exist and grow.
In other words, your despair may be a bit of an over-reaction.
I argee with you completely. If humans had never inhabitied this planet, then it would not be in the state it would be today.
The more correct statement is that "The human race is causing the earth to change for the worse"
:-o
this is no fair!!! if the world ends in 3-5 years I will never graduate and never become an adult and plus why would the world end at it's 2000th year and the human race at their over 4000th or something years, it's unethical to tell people that the world is going to end and put the world into a frenzy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been spending hours reading an ebook that is about NDEs, and there were some predictions in it about world events that will happen. Here is an extract from page 156:
From 1992 to 2012, great natural distasters will happen such as earthquakes, floods, tidal waves, and weather changes. Earthquakes will strike the eastern coast of the U.S. Japan will slip into the ocean. There will be three days of darkness from the explosion of volcanoes. Ultimately, these natural distasters will stop. Humanity will always have the light. - Cassandra Musgrave
There are more predictions on pages 154 - 157. The ebook can be downloaded free here (http://www.near-death.com/ebooks/nde/nothing_better_than_death_ebook.pdf).
Many of these predictions are about the weather, natural disasters, and other things. Well worth reading if you're interested in that sort of thing.
It's funny that people of now predict about the future and they are believed... but people often fail to see the obvious that is at hand.
Ancient cultures have dominated the super natural subjects for centuries.
There is no such thing as a 2012 related catastrophe because it is in the number 2012. It is a christian number, hardly the ending of the world has something to do with faith, for dinosaurs didn't believe in a god and they all died anyway. Numbers can always be calculated backwards, people see connections when they want to.
The fact remains the the mayan calender and the egyptian calender both ended at our 2012, of course they didn't call it that way. If you see on what reasons they based their theories they sound very sensible. In the same text they refer to the easter islands, no human could have moved such a large piece of rock and so on with the examples.
Whatever will happen, the maya culture has seen what it was and took it with them in their grave. I also noticed nobody wonders where the maya got their information, because if you take a good look, you will notice.. they kind of pop out of nowhere...
Nothing pops out of nowhere. There is always a source from where information comes from. The fact is, people will believe what they want. Now, as for believing prophecies and predictions, personally, I would prefer to wait and see what happens, that means, not either believing it or dis-believing it. I'm just neutral. But we can't deny that things are happening, there have been earthquakes, floods and other natural disasters, whether they will happen more often remains to be seen. The other fact is, mankind is abusing the planet, and when we abuse something, we can expect it to bite back sooner or later.
This looks cool:
Revelations-13.com
Quote from: TheDarkApprenticeThe human race and the earth is dying a slow death. It is too late save our planet now, especially with new uprising technology.
How optimistic of you(!) :roll:
LOL, it's never too late to save our planet, not if we do something about it now. And, no, the human race isn't dying. Where did you get that idea from?
Quote from: Pod_3This looks cool:
Revelations-13.com
That website doesn't exist, I googled for it.
Maybe the Mayans just ran out of room on their big, rock, circular calendar... :lol:
The earth is always changing..and yes, our modern world is abusing it an polluting it. However, it does have remarkable self-cleansing processes.
Actually, the air from the coal burning factories and trains of the 1850's-1950's was much worse than it is today. And the waters were filthier. In the 60's everyone said Lake Erie was a dying lake. It has been cleaned up and is making a comeback.
The more serious problem is the soil eroding and spreading desert areas along with the tropical rain forests being burned and/or cut down. The irony is that the soil under those rain forests isn't even all that good for growing food or grazing food animals. And once the forest is gone, the soil soon follows.
Real problem is just too many of us in too many places. If we, collectively, don't control our growth rates, and even reduce the population of humanity, then Nature may find a way to do it for us.....the natural world always moves from extremes to balances. The only things that outnumber us are the insects, bacteria and viruses. So where does that leave us? We are their food, and sometimes they make us sick and die.
So which would you prefer? The comet striking the planet scenario, nuclear winter from a nuclear war, or pandemics spread by insects? I think all 3 have been made into popular movies so we could scare ourselves to death.
Somehow, we Americans have gotten fixated on the end of the world and I just say: Cheer Up! It may never happen. And if it does it will be our chance to finally get away from it all and see if we like the afterlife. :wink:
QuoteSo which would you prefer? The comet striking the planet scenario, nuclear winter from a nuclear war, or pandemics spread by insects? I think all 3 have been made into popular movies so we could scare ourselves to death.
Maybe. But that doesn't mean it can't or won't happen in real-life. I think that part of the problem is that a lot of people just bury their heads in the sand, thinking that if they don't think about it, then maybe it won't happen. :wink:
i was wondering will the world really end in 2008? I don't want it to. please tell me.
and if it is going to happen, just what can any of us do to stop it? Nothing.
Tomorrow is just an anticipation - none of us have a guarantee on it, anyway.
So live live today, and do not fret over when the world will end or change or when humans become extinct or almost extinct.....there will probably be no rhyme or reason why one person survives and 100 do not. At least not any reason that we are likely to understand.
But our fascination with disaster scenarios is becoming extreme. Maybe we, collectively, think we deserve it. Maybe we look around at all the suffering elsewhere in the world, and feel guilty because we are not living lives of abject poverty and semi-starvation.
Change is the order of the universe and certainly of our world. Things will change in thousands of ways. Yet, oddly, I think that until most of humankind truly evolves, it will stay the same as generation after generation experiences the same events - just the details will change.
I also think that the more people that focus on some terrible thing happening to humanity and our planet, the more likely it will become manifest in this reality.
In essence, terrible things happen in every time. Also some wonderful things. Change, even serious ones or dramatic ones, do not mean the end of all life, only a change in the lives we live and how we live them.
Enjoy the peace of the day.
QuoteMaybe the Mayans just ran out of room on their big, rock, circular calendar...
The Mayans were not nearly as primitive as you suggest they are. On the contrary they were extremely advanced and recognize patterns in the cosmos we have only began to recognize.
http://webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-mayan.html
I have had a feeling the world would end on christmas, as you see we are still here, but I thought of somthing else. In the bible it says we will have seven years of hell before or during the end (im not totally sure). On christmas day the tsunami happened, then an earth quake in china. Thats it so far but its only jan 20. Even though this happened in 2004 it happened on the birth of jesus. 7 years from 2005 is 2012. The year the mayans predicted to be the end. Im sure this is crap but i dont know, maybe theres somthing to it. so im thinking christmas day 2011 the world will end. :?
I read from official homepage of Edgar Cayce and from few other sites, that Edgar Cayce did not gave out precise years, and precise predictions about future events. In official website it's even said that many yellow papers are faking Edgar Cayce's messages to attract readers.
Does anyone has the genuine collection of Edgar Cayce's readings, and can he/she confirm this message in opening post?
Quote from: Wronski FeintIn the bible it says we will have seven years of hell before or during the end (im not totally sure).
Many numbers in the Bible should be taken symbolically. Although it's possible that some of them should be taken literally.
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On christmas day the tsunami happened, then an earth quake in china. Thats it so far but its only jan 20. Even though this happened in 2004 it happened on the birth of jesus. 7 years from 2005 is 2012.
There has been worser catastrophes than those in history. And people always like to say: the end is near!! as soon as they happen. While one day they might be right on that, then until then we should be very critical about such predictions.
P.S. The birth of Jesus most probably did not happened during Christmas. It was LABELLED as birth of Jesus by official Christianity that hate anything what had pagan origin.
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The year the mayans predicted to be the end. Im sure this is [edit] but i dont know, maybe theres somthing to it. so im thinking christmas day 2011 the world will end. :?
EDITED: The Mayas predicted something will happen in the end of 2012, not 2011.
Mayas did not predicted that the world is ending in 2012, but that some major change will happen. At least it's what i have read. If someone thinks that they predicted the end of the world, then please, give a quote here and the source :lol:
Cheer up people. There are so MANY false predictions in near history, and far history (you can do your search on Religioustolerance website about them), that it almost discredits the whole idea of world end. Although IMO it's highly possible that this world where we live does come to end one day, i suggest everyone to be more sceptical about predictions and use their sound mind and read history :D
Cheers :D
I know what you mean by many disasters happining and every one freaking out. When 9/11 happend here in america people kept saying that it was in the bible and many ancient text said this would happen and all that bull, the world would end within the year, blah blah. But i think if the world ends it will be on jesus' birth weather it is chritmas or another day.
Quote from: Wronski FeintBut i think if the world ends it will be on jesus' birth weather it is chritmas or another day.
To continue the discussion: Why do you think that it will happen in Jesus' birth day? It's just interesting for me. And how do you know when Jesus really was born as we don't have historical facts about the date?
I don't want to sound like moron, but it's still interesting idea what you brought up :D
I really dont know. Somthing just tells me thats the way itll be. And I dont trust history, mainly because people recorded it and they can be missinformed, secondly becasue I have a theory on about the present changing the past.
Quote from: G3MM4I've been spending hours reading an ebook that is about NDEs, and there were some predictions in it about world events that will happen. Here is an extract from page 156:
From 1992 to 2012, great natural distasters will happen such as earthquakes, floods, tidal waves, and weather changes. Earthquakes will strike the eastern coast of the U.S. Japan will slip into the ocean. There will be three days of darkness from the explosion of volcanoes. Ultimately, these natural distasters will stop. Humanity will always have the light. - Cassandra Musgrave
There are more predictions on pages 154 - 157. The ebook can be downloaded free here (http://www.near-death.com/ebooks/nde/nothing_better_than_death_ebook.pdf).
Many of these predictions are about the weather, natural disasters, and other things. Well worth reading if you're interested in that sort of thing.
By the way, I was reading a psychic column in a magazine last month (yes I know psychic columns are "uncool" lol) and the psychic (Ruth Urquhart) was saying more or less the same as what I've mentioned above, she was saying something about massive earthquakes in the US, and in Japan. Nothing new there. But what struck me as interesting was what she said about worldwide economy and the stock market. Apparently the stock market will end up similar to what happened in the Wall Street thing last century, and worldwide economy will suffer as a result. I don't know if that will happen or not, but we'll see.
On another note, I was reading one of Bruce Moen's books where he was shown that the number of humans on Earth will be drastically reduced.
How about some positive news? :wink:
http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/
Here are some of the things that are talked about...
New Oil Pipeline Alleviates Poverty in AfricaMachine Turns Garbage, Animal Waste, or Sludge into Oil! Factory to Open in Sept. Top Ten Good News Stories of the Year and MoreNational Do Not Call List Mutes Telemarketers, Rescues Americans from Pesky Telemarketing CallsGood Bites...Brief glimpses of good: positive trends, decisions and reports
And how about these earth stories,
QuoteFor the first time in 38 years, American Indians on Oregon's Columbia River have harvested a surplus of summer chinook salmon. 120,000 salmon are making the summer run upriver, compared to only 15,000 in the mid-1990's, the second-highest rate since 1960. The return of unusually abundant chinook, each weighing 20-30 pounds and fetching $2 per pound, is due to several factors, including improved habitat, the nutrient level of the water, hatchery operations, and harvest management.
QuoteClean air progress has been phenomenal in big cities, according to the Foundation for Clean Air Progress. Most dramatically, from 1990 to 1999, Southern California's number of days of high pollution decreased 100 %.
(The Foundation for Clean Air Progress)
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QuoteAccording to the Washington Post, General Motors offered detailed plans to boost the fuel economy of its most popular cars, trucks and SUV's by as much as 50 percent, utilizing hybrid gas-electric technology, beginning with two pickup trucks in the 2003 model year.
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QuoteFuel Cell Car Coming:
GM has road-tested what it says is the world's first drivable fuel-cell vehicle, an altered Chevrolet S-10 pickup. Fuel cell engines that run on gasoline are a transitional technology as every major automaker works toward vehicles that eventually would run on pure hydrogen. Fuel-cell fleet vehicles are expected within a year, with affordable versions available for consumers by 2010.
Take Care,
Nay
Quote from: Nayhttp://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/
Nay, the news on that site is so good, it hurts having to get used to it!
LOL@Bush. If any of that is true, then at least someone has some idea of what I went through six years ago.
Hehe! Telos, that darn positive outlook really is painful. ;)
Nay
Thanks a nice website, Nay! Thanks for posting it!
:)
Nick
That stuff on Bush apparently is true according to how many sources carry the information if you do a Google search on Bush and anti-depressants. I also found a site about the guy who made the claims and what exactly he diagnosed Bush with.
QuoteThe most concise and frank, yet compassionate account of George W. Bush's multiple mental disorders can be found in the 2004 book-length study by Bush on the Couch : Inside the Mind of the President - [Link has 54 customer reviews] Dr. Justin Frank, (New York: HarperCollins, 2004). Dr. Frank is a leading psychoanalyst who teaches at George Washington University Medical Center. His professional credentials are impressive, and his in-depth study of the President, based on massive amounts of public documentation—autobiographical and biographical accounts, countless hours of video footage of the President, statements by close associates and relatives, spanning nearly the entirety of George W. Bush's lifetime—presents a compelling case that Mr. Bush is in need of medical assistance.
QuoteMr. Bush suffers from a range of serious, albeit curable conditions. These include: Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD); untreated and uncured alcoholism (what is frequently referred to in lay terms as "dry drunk"); an omnipotence complex; paranoia; an Oedipal Complex; sadism; a mild form of Tourette's Syndrome; and a diminished capacity to distinguish between reality and fantasy.
And we went from end of the world to dissing bush in 2 post. A record. :wink:
Quote from: Wronski FeintAnd we went from end of the world to dissing bush in 2 post. A record. :wink:
Haha..
For the record, I support Bush and not the end of the world. :)
Now someone come along and say something clever like... If you support Bush, then you better support the end of the world. For such a hated man, he is one smart cookie and really gets around.
Nay
Lots of family connections, that's what it looks like from outside the USA anyway. Lots of family help :-). Among other things...but what am I on about. I wouldn't want to lead any country no matter what so there is some respect due at least a little for someone who will attempt the job.
I'm still not a supporter though! :-)...only reacting to the above post
Quotehe is one smart cookie
lmfao! Yeah, Bush is certainly well known for his intellectual capacity.
QuoteLots of family connections, that's what it looks like from outside the USA anyway. Lots of family help Smile. Among other things...but what am I on about.
Lots of connections in general when you're wealthy, your dad's Bush Sr., and you're a member of Skull and Bones, and the Republican Party, and in the oil business. Look up a biography of Cheney or Rumsfeld, though. Those guys
have been around, and for no single person or no group with much of a reputation for any good purpose, unless you think Nixon was a good president, or Halliburton is an honest, trustworthy company.
Oh, my....and Kerry didn't have the same money connections?
Just a thought.
Quote from: JenadotsOh, my....and Kerry didn't have the same money connections?
Just a thought.
I'm sure he has similar connections, but then again he's not the president of our country, is he? Don't think I wouldn't be putting him down if he was. Bush is no less of a fascist nut job either way.
End of teh world!! ---> http://www.ebaumsworld.com/endofworld.html (heads up, crude language)
The famous astrologer Nostradamus said that there will be world war 3 between 2 great nation in the year 2007.Till now his predictions have come true.....
Quote from: JenadotsOh, my....and Kerry didn't have the same money connections?
Just a thought.
We can basically say that it is almost a family connection because Bush and Kerry are supposedly distant cousins.
Take care,
ok but didn't you guys read the way of the yogi, and seth and stuff. and that we won't really die we will still be alive in the astral , all of us. so why are you guys scared?
Quoteok but didn't you guys read the way of the yogi, and seth and stuff. and that we won't really die we will still be alive in the astral , all of us. so why are you guys scared?
I don't fear possible future events, but wouldn't it just tinkle you off just a little if you knew your country was just being used as a huge corporation while your rights as a citizen were sacrificed for more $$?
I just want time to enjoy a few more material things like our new boat and some more sex :-).
/me runs..