Evidence of Planet Nibiru?

[Oazaki]

quote:Originally posted by FistOfFury

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Let's imagine for a second that Nibiru is real, and that the U.S. and  other governments are actually in a secret conspiracy to not tell us about Nibiru until it's too late, so that they can avoid a mass paranoia scenario, and quietly gather up the resources, and safe places they need, to ride out Nibiru's terror.

aw geee, who woulda imagined that our governments would do such a thing?  and here i was thinking they were all honest public servants with the best interests of those they governed at heart. []

you have put together much info on this one man and you feel the truth of that which you are realising.  indeed you are right, pretty much, on your speculations.  wanna know a secret?  "sedna" is in fact a cometary cluster and will be hitting the earth in may sometime.  and "nibiru" is the sun's twin dark companion, a brown star, which will appear in the sky just a little prior to sedna's impact.  so what on earth could possibly cause "sedna" to move so fast?  well, how about the extreme warping of space-time by a massive gravitational field such as, for example, would result from a white dwarf (and even from a "brown star", albeit it to a lesser degree, which is halfway towards becoming a white dwarf)?  you see, as soon as "sedna" entered the gravitational field of the twin star it would be moving thru very "curved" space time, ie it would from our 3D perspective appear to accelerate very rapidly and move very, very fast thereafter.  bet you suspected there was a reason as to why the ancient egyptians depicted nibiru as a dark red disk with wings...

and finally, one does wonder why sedna, though it was dicovered on 14th november 2003, wasn't anounced to the public till 15th march 2004?  even though quaoar and 2004DW were anounced to the public a day or three after they were discovered...  and all three were discovered by the same team of people (chad trujillo et al)...

all the best man,
Oazaki.

[FistOfFury]

quote:Originally posted by Oazaki


you have put together much info on this one man and you feel the truth of that which you are realising.  indeed you are right, pretty much, on your speculations.  wanna know a secret?  "sedna" is in fact a cometary cluster and will be hitting the earth in may sometime.  and "nibiru" is the sun's twin dark companion, a brown star, which will appear in the sky just a little prior to sedna's impact.  so what on earth could possibly cause "sedna" to move so fast?  well, how about the extreme warping of space-time by a massive gravitational field such as, for example, would result from a white dwarf (and even from a "brown star", albeit it to a lesser degree, which is halfway towards becoming a white dwarf)?  you see, as soon as "sedna" entered the gravitational field of the twin star it would be moving thru very "curved" space time, ie it would from our 3D perspective appear to accelerate very rapidly and move very, very fast thereafter.  bet you suspected there was a reason as to why the ancient egyptians depicted nibiru as a dark red disk with wings...

So, you're saying that Sedna got caught in Nibiru's gravity and is being slingshotted towards Earth? Oh great, so if I get lucky and survive Nibiru, I have a giant 800-1100 mile ice planetoid, turned asteroid impact, to look forward too? That's nice. [B)][xx(]

[Oazaki]

quote:Originally posted by FistOfFury

So, you're saying that Sedna got caught in Nibiru's gravity and is being slingshotted towards Earth? Oh great, so if I get lucky and survive Nibiru, I have a giant 800-1100 mile ice planetoid, turned asteroid impact, to look forward too? That's nice. [B)][xx(]

nah, it's all gonna hit more or less at once and will be over by mid-june.

all the best,
Oazaki.

[Oazaki]

Thought you might all like this which is an extract from the scientific paper by Michael E. Brown, Chadwick Trujillo and David Rabinowitz announcing the discovery of 2003 VB12, popularly known as Sedna.  Here ya go:

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To verify the robustness of the distant perihelion for 2003 VB12, we recomputed 200 orbits while randomly adding 0.8 arcsecond of noise (twice the RMS residuals) to each of the astrometric observations and that the derived perihelion remains within the range 73 to 80 AU.

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The orbit of this object is unlike any other known in the solar system. It resembles a scattered Kuiper belt object, but with a perihelion much higher than can be explained by scattering from any known planet. The only mechanism for placing the object into this orbit requires either perturbation by planets yet to be seen in the solar system or forces beyond the solar system.

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Scattered Kuiper belt objects acquire their high eccentricities through gravitational interaction the giant planets. Such scattering results in a random walk in energy and thus semi-major axis, but only a small change in perihelion distance. Scattering by Neptune is thought to be able to move an object's perihelion only out to distances of _36 AU. (Gladman et al. 2002), though more complicated interactions including migration can occasionally raise perihelia as high as _50AU (Gomes, 2004), su_cient to explain all of the known Kuiper belt objects. Our object could not be scattered into an orbit with a perihelion distance of 76 AU by any of the major planets. An alternative, however, is the existence of an undiscovered planet at a distance of _70 AU which scattered the object just as Neptune scatters the Kuiper belt objects.

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Only a small range of encounter geometries are capable of perturbing a scattered Kuiper belt-like orbit to this more Oort cloud-like orbit. As an example, an encounter of a solar mass star moving at 30 km s#8722;1 perpendicular to the ecliptic at a distance of 500 AU will perturb an orbit with a perihelion of _30 AU and semimajor axis of _480 AU to one with a perihelion of 76 AU, like that seen. The need for a special geometry is not surprising, as any single stellar encounter would have a geometry that is unique.

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You can find a link to that full article (in pdf form) here:

http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/sedna/

So, looks like they've either got *some* idea of what they're dealing with here but don't know the whole picture yet, or they know *exactly* what they're dealing with and aren't releasing that whole picture to the world as a whole yet.  One of the two.

all the best,
Oazaki.

[no_leaf_clover]

Fist of Fury,

I live in Virginia too (a county outside of Roanoke), and I think it was like last fall and spring that the weather got really psycho. I've lived in Virginia for about 12 to 14 years of my life and the storms I saw last spring and fall were more like the storms I saw in Florida during the rainy seasons. I was in the car with my mom last fall, and our car's thermometer showed that it was around 60 degrees or so, a nice sunny day, though a little overcast, and in about a minute or less the thermometer read 20 some degrees and hail and heavy rain were beating the car. I remember last spring being particularly bad, as well. And that earthquake was the first that I've heard of that's occured during my lifetime, although it was just a minor one.

Also - I don't know if you linked to it or not (I just saw planets like Mars and Neptune in the URLs), but Pluto has actually been warming up as well - as it moves farther from the sun!

quote:nah, it's all gonna hit more or less at once and will be over by mid-june.

You think Nibiru will be by that soon? I was personally thinking 2015 or a little later. Before it gets here a few things are going to happen that will signal to anyone aware of these ideas that something major is about to happen. If things go as I'm thinking, some storms and earthquakes are going to start popping up in the strangest places (like the one off of Brazil now), and generally a whole lot more powerful than what we're getting now. Lots of debris may come through our part of the system as things are already hinting at, and eventually the rotation of the Earth will severely slow and 'new' bodies will become apparent in the sky.

While all of this is going on, one might be able to expect man's counterparts to mother nature's doings: terrorism, bloodshed in general, civil unrest, collapsing governments and economies, etc. I still think we have a few years before these things start to really take bloom, but you can already start seeing signs of things like civil unrest here in the US. Who really trusts the government anymore? And maybe more importantly, who feels as though their personal freedoms are being properly honored as a human being? The US Government has already grown into a separate body from the people it's supposed to be protecting.

[FistOfFury]

Yea, I searched for Pluto global warming, I forgot to link it. Is it still moving away from the sun though? All the info I found out about it was dated about 2 years ago. Strangely, I can't find any new info on it.

Also, I don't know if it was a product of my overactive imagination, or that it's tied to this thread, or whatever, but I had a wierd short dream before I woke up yesterday morning. It was extremely vivid too. Usually, when I dream they are vague and hard to understand, and the "pictures" are foggy or not clear, and usually I never hear sound effects. But this time it was the exact opposite. Anyway on to the dream.

I was sleeping in the dream, it was night time. I suddenly awoke to a wierd and loud fiery noise behind my house. I went to go look out the window, and I saw a really bright and red giant "shooting star". It landed in an area somewhere behind my house, and there was a giant explosion. I then started running to the other side of my room, and looked out the other window that faces the front of my house, and saw another giant reddish thing like I just saw behind the house, coming right towards me. Well, it landed right on top of me, and I saw and heard myself being crushed by the great force. And well, then I was dead. Disturbing to say the least.

[FistOfFury]

Check out these rather interesting links I just found:

http://www.innovations-report.com/html/reports/physics_astronomy/report-26940.html
http://news.google.com/news?q=solar%20flare&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&sa=N&tab=wn

I heard there was another large solar flare that occured a couple days ago, but I can't find any info on this. Anyone got any links?

[__--nezabaleta--__]

I only want to post following link:

http://www.samsara2003.com/New/new-main.htm

NEZabaleta

[Moonburn33]

i would just like to say that nibiru was supposed to hit around this time LAST YEAR... the people who created this craze in the late nineties were just trying to make money off of panic.  

here's something more frightening:

ask any astronomer where mars' moons went.  they're gone.

[halfphased]

For your enjoyment:

A couple weeks ago, I had a dream and I was shown an overhead? view of our galaxy (ie you could clearly see the full orbits of the planets around the sun)  
What I could see is that Earth was going to be passing outside the edge of an anomolous area of space.  It was clearly going to miss hitting this area, but then I saw a large object pass Earth at an angle and it deflected Earth into this anamolous area.  I had a feeling this was a good thing.  I have no idea what this anamolous region was and I thought that the large object that passed Earth was Nibiru.  

A couple days later I had a dream and Earth was in trouble.  I was told that Earth had many lights to choose from and only one of them would be useful and that light would be golden.  At the same time I was in space looking at stars, and I had a strong sense that one of those stars was going to help out Earth.  

Perhaps my subconcious just wanted to play around.  Purely for your enjoyment, but if anyone else has had similiar experiences...

[Moonburn33]

not to add to the histeria- but i actually had a very vivid dream in which i woke up and looked out my window which faces where nibiru would supposedly be visible and saw the beginning of the end of the world.  the sun had frozen in mid rise and there was this other huge object in the sky that looked like a cross that was out of focus.

it would also help to note that the sky was deep red.

[wantsumrice]

"ask any astronomer where mars' moons went. they're gone."

Where in the world did you hear such a thing?  And has it ever occured to you that this planet "Nibiru" might be a personification of something to come?  Meaning, an actual planet, Nibiru, does not exist.

~ivan

[Kerrblur]

omg fistoffury,

Okay you have to be shitting me with this dream you had, ok listen.

This past 7 dated days, Like myself and 6 of my other friends, on a separate day well 8 now with you, have had vivid Dreams of Showers of comets.  And I and my friends and yourself all had the same dream, I was in my house, and i looked out the window and saw comets showering on the ground over us, and i ran outside for a sec, and was holding the hands of one of my friends, and we were running to find protection, i dont know why, and my friend got blasted by a comet.  

then I woke up.  all my friends like u and I were at home, and something different but Strikingly similar happened.
And the dreamer or the person next to them always died.

I would like to know more about this information 'Oazaki' presented us with. and where he got his information about the comets hitting apparently this year.   Oazaki can you tell me more like fistoffury did?

and the add to Oazaki's mysteries, this person had a dream also, http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/post.asp?method=Reply&TOPIC_ID=11970&FORUM_ID=23

I would like to know more

[beavis]

I'm not going to search through your 13 links in search of little changes on earth.

Can somebody just tell me where I can find a telescope picture of this planet and predictions about its path relative to earth?

[Quiet Storm]

Yea man, dis some bulllshiat! lol.

Well, to add more to this post, I found this article titled "Is Earth In Imminent Danger From Inbound Meteors?" written in May 4, 2004.

quote:While surfing on the internet back on March 22nd, I happened to come across a message board in which one poster revealed that they had an insider in NASA who had been providing them information. In a nutshell he revealed that by mid to late May and going on through 2005, the earth's orbit is potentially going to go through the tail of several comets and afterward be inundated by meteors causing worldwide calamity from not only the vapor, but the impact/s.

Apparently, the vapor associated with these comet tails are extremely dangerous and flammable. There is SO much that is occurring right now that although at first glance they seem normal, it is not so. Several points the poster made was that the ISS was going to make an excuse to return to earth and that America's homeland security would be going to red (from its current orange) and eventually red. He even said that something significant would be revealed on April 16th that would put things into motion. Remember, these comments were made on March 22nd. He even revealed that is seems even congress is preparing to go underground. At any rate, below are his comments and some of the current proof, and thought your site needed to get this information out to the public. Here were the first comments he made on March 22nd:

Here is a simple scenario for the those who want the overall expectation. Three or four separate "events" the forth undetermined because they may be an interaction of the third "event" making it as if four "events". All are separated with a time factor of months. The first is why this is taking NASA so long to make a definite calculation but an event will happen on April 16th that will confirm things.

As incredible as it sounds, two comets are on a collision course near earth, so near in fact, that one is expected to knock the other into (most likely) the western hemisphere, but it is unknown whether that will be into the ocean or on a landmass.
http://www.bushcountry.org/news/may_news_pages/g_050204_withheld_earth_danger_inbound_meteors.htm

Read on it's very interesting.

Looks like Oazaki may have been right after all...

[FistOfFury]

That's a hoax Quiet Storm. Go to rense.com and scroll down until you see the articles about the Dr. Gartrell imposter, Aussie Bloke, and the Monitors group.

[FistOfFury]

(If any of the links don't work, try copy and pasting into your browser URL field.)

So, I was just reading and thinking about Nibiru. I remember reading that Nibiru will cause radical changes in Earth's climate/earthquakes as it nears us. I've been seeing on the news about wierd weather, just do a search for earthquakes on google news, is it just me, or is has there been alot of earthquakes lately? Back in December, we had a 4.5 earthquake here in Virginia. That's like not normal for this area, we haven't had a big earthquake like that in a long butt time.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=4.5+virginia+earthquake&btnG=Google+Search

The other day it was pretty warm here in Virginia, we had to put the air conditioner on. Then the next day, it was freaking freezing at night, and we had to put the heat on. I've been seeing on weather channel about a wierd amount of tornadoes. Then the other day they were talking about that freak hurricane or hurricane-like thing near Brazil:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WEATHER/03/28/storm.brazil.ap/
http://www.shortnews.com/shownews.cfm?id=38254&u_id=56352&CFID=257474&CFTOKEN=59461163
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2004/03/30/2003108433

The first ever storm of that kind in that region of the world of the S.Atlantic. What caused that? A freak accident? Global warming? So I started doing random searches, and I found this:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1153513,00.html

and this:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4379905/  <---(scroll to bottom about climate changes & dates)

and this:
http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/02/110550.php
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=pentagon+climate&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=observer+pentagon+climate&btnG=Search

So I read all that, and did some more thinking, "Oh, it's just due to the pollution that's causing Earth's global warming, and stuff." Yeah.....

So I did some more searching, and looked for global warming on other planets, and I found this:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=neptune+global+warming&btnG=Search
and this:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/mars011207.html
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_ice-age_031208.html
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=mars+global+warming&btnG=Google+Search

So what's causing all of this? Is mother nature on PMS, or is it something else? (hint hint). So I did some more thinking, and I remembered Sedna. I remember reading that Sedna is made of Ice. I saw a picture from NASA showing Sedna's orbits, and in all the pictures, it's color is RED:
http://science.msfc.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/16mar_sedna.htm
"This is likely the first detection of the long-hypothesized "Oort cloud," a faraway repository of small icy bodies that supplies the comets that streak by Earth. Other notable features of Sedna include its size and reddish color. After Mars, it is the second reddest object in the solar system."
http://apod.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040316.html
OK, why is something that's made of ICE, why would it be dark RED?

I also remember reading that Nibiru's orbit is similiar to Sedna's, but that it's not Sedna. I also read that Sedna is so far away, that it's gonna take forever for it to come close to us, and as a result it can't be seen by the naked eye, IT WAS JUST RECENTLY that it was discovered by the most powerful telescopes, and then it's detection was even hard to see, they found it by the small wobbly crawl it was making.
"The dim object caught the attention of astronomers because it was moving, slightly, across the starry field."
Let's keep all that in mind as we continue.

Now here's the kicker.

Let's imagine for a second that Nibiru is real, and that the U.S. and  other governments are actually in a secret conspiracy to not tell us about Nibiru until it's too late, so that they can avoid a mass paranoia scenario, and quietly gather up the resources, and safe places they need, to ride out Nibiru's terror.

When Nibiru comes close to Earth, it's gonna be visible by the naked eye right? What's it gonna look like? A dark reddish celestial object.

What if, NASA is trying to trick people into thinking that the red celestial object they will see in the sky is Sedna, and not Nibiru. (Remember they are two seperate entities. Sedna is there, it just can't be seen, but whoops, what's this OTHER red thing that just popped out of nowhere?) Think back to the NASA association with Sedna and the color Red. People will see the red object in the sky as it gets closer, and they'll remember Sedna. NASA, the media, and other people with just downplay the whole thing, and they'll be like "Oh, that's just Sedna." Or is it? []