Title: I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL 2004!!!
Post by: General-Army on November 16, 2002, 11:24:40
Post by: General-Army on November 16, 2002, 11:24:40
Well im not a dooom monger like u say, i just feel as if something different is going to happen in 2003,
Now you COULD jump off a building, but.... youd die.
Now you COULD jump off a building, but.... youd die.
Title: I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL 2004!!!
Post by: MJ-12 on November 16, 2002, 14:45:15
Post by: MJ-12 on November 16, 2002, 14:45:15
hs
Title: I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL 2004!!!
Post by: asstray85 on November 16, 2002, 14:53:59
Post by: asstray85 on November 16, 2002, 14:53:59
hahaha that was smooth.![]("http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_cool.gif")
-Steve
-Steve
Title: I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL 2004!!!
Post by: Nate on November 16, 2002, 21:01:26
Post by: Nate on November 16, 2002, 21:01:26
You know it's kind of funny. Sometimes I feel like I'm losing my grip with reality believing in all this projection stuff, but after reading some of the things written on the forum (anything pretaining to the goverment and/or aliens) I feel very grounded.
I'm personally hoping that 2012 a giant nothing happens. Just cuz that'd be funny. I remember vack when teh space brothers were coming in 2001 to teach us the ways of...something. Was never quite clear on that part.
The parts I find really silly are the ones that talk about the draconian underground bases where they work out plans for soul harvesting or some crap. I mean guys even if all that's true, you still probably need to get a life.
Besides, can you imagine how boring the eternal now would get after what wouldn't be five minutes? taaa!!!
-Nate
Do you have any idea how BORING immortality can get?! -Defalco
I'm personally hoping that 2012 a giant nothing happens. Just cuz that'd be funny. I remember vack when teh space brothers were coming in 2001 to teach us the ways of...something. Was never quite clear on that part.
The parts I find really silly are the ones that talk about the draconian underground bases where they work out plans for soul harvesting or some crap. I mean guys even if all that's true, you still probably need to get a life.
Besides, can you imagine how boring the eternal now would get after what wouldn't be five minutes? taaa!!!
-Nate
Do you have any idea how BORING immortality can get?! -Defalco
Title: I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL 2004!!!
Post by: Gandalf on November 17, 2002, 07:38:48
Post by: Gandalf on November 17, 2002, 07:38:48
You know it's kind of funny. Sometimes I feel like I'm losing my grip with reality believing in all this projection stuff, but after reading some of the things written on the forum (anything pretaining to the goverment and/or aliens) I feel very grounded.
Nate
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I used to think that when I first got into projection stuff but now my perspective is exactly the opposite.
I am very busy in the middle of a degree course at the moment and dont really have time to devote to the Astral world and all that goes with it.
But this forum is essential for me as it keeps me 'awake' with regards to all things astral. So reather than worrying about losing my grip on reality (materialist perspective) a Im now very concious not to loss my grip on the astral (non materialist perspective)
Ive I didnt keep coming to the forum, then I'm sure my grip on it would fail as I become completely absorbed with everyday 'reality' uni life etc.
What I have found is that the material world is SO seductive that you can lose yourself in it completly and loss interest in the spiritual- that is the case with the majority of the poplation of course - I think its important to remember this as even being on this forum is evidence that we have begun to see beyond the material.
Of course I'm not advocating going and living in a cave for the rest of my life.. I like material pleasures as well, I am talking about getting a sense of balance between the two.... In the material world that can be difficult as it is so seductive that you could easily lose any interest in the spiritual if you get to sucked in..
Anyway, before everyone falls asleep, (sorry!) I take the opposite view form that of 'worying about losing touch with reality' and instead I worry about 'losing touch with the astal'.
Regards,
Douglas
PS apologies to the prophesy fans here, i realise that my earlier jibe (while not intended to be a serious dig) was a bit over the top and I withdraw it!!!
Nate
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I used to think that when I first got into projection stuff but now my perspective is exactly the opposite.
I am very busy in the middle of a degree course at the moment and dont really have time to devote to the Astral world and all that goes with it.
But this forum is essential for me as it keeps me 'awake' with regards to all things astral. So reather than worrying about losing my grip on reality (materialist perspective) a Im now very concious not to loss my grip on the astral (non materialist perspective)
Ive I didnt keep coming to the forum, then I'm sure my grip on it would fail as I become completely absorbed with everyday 'reality' uni life etc.
What I have found is that the material world is SO seductive that you can lose yourself in it completly and loss interest in the spiritual- that is the case with the majority of the poplation of course - I think its important to remember this as even being on this forum is evidence that we have begun to see beyond the material.
Of course I'm not advocating going and living in a cave for the rest of my life.. I like material pleasures as well, I am talking about getting a sense of balance between the two.... In the material world that can be difficult as it is so seductive that you could easily lose any interest in the spiritual if you get to sucked in..
Anyway, before everyone falls asleep, (sorry!) I take the opposite view form that of 'worying about losing touch with reality' and instead I worry about 'losing touch with the astal'.
Regards,
Douglas
PS apologies to the prophesy fans here, i realise that my earlier jibe (while not intended to be a serious dig) was a bit over the top and I withdraw it!!!
Title: I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL 2004!!!
Post by: bitsmart on December 07, 2002, 09:09:30
Post by: bitsmart on December 07, 2002, 09:09:30
Bitsmart's back.
Man, I'm sorry I was away from this forum for so long, I missed a lot, but keeping up with a forum is hard work. I believe it was my original post about the ascension2000.com site that started this whole 'doom-monger' rant. Also back in that post I didn't really explain my views very well. I'm finally back participating in this forum when I can, and I felt my first task should be clearing this up.
I consider myself to be a very rational, left-brained person. I've been a bookworm all my life, and computers came very naturally, plus, I used to be an atheist because all that spiritual/religious mumbo jumbo was non-sensical.
Then I started to percieve things differently, slowly but surely. I grew curious at first, and began doing research on psychic abilities and such. Then my life started to get more weird, and I desperately searched for a model of reality that made sense, that would ground me. I read about quantum physics, the multi-dimesional universe, Unified Field Theory, integral philosophy, eastern religion, metaprogramming and brain circuits, the healing properties of sound (I write electronic music), dreams, OBE, psychic phenomena, UFOs and aliens, conspiracy theories, the list goes on. I'm currently suffering from information overload; in other words, I know all this really interesting stuff, so much I don't know what to do with it, I just KNOW IT. Period.
I still had the basic questions that everyone has...why am I here, what's it all about, how's it gonna end, etc., and then I stumbled upon the Mayan Calendar and Terence McKenna's timewave.
Now I draw a big dividing line between doom-and-gloom scenarios and ascension-type scenarios, first off. I don't like Nostradamus because he's too negative. We're not gonna blow ourselves to smithereens, I'm sure of that much. I don't believe that it's gonna be a Rapture, specific only to Christians or other people of a certain faith, or that it will play out exactly as it is written in Revelation. Prophecy is imperfect, because a prophecy is based on probability, not pre-written fate. Probablity being based on variables, even chaos, that can change over time, the outcome is subject to misalignment with the prophecised scenario.
Then there's disinformation, people who falsify or recieve false information and it becomes belief, usually because it's really wild and sensational. I believe this Planet X/asteroid/meteor scenario is one such disinformation ploy meant to distract and confuse people.
All the way I've tried to use good judgement and do enough research on any one topic that I could make an educated decision whether to believe something or not. I feel that I need some beliefs which can't be proven, because I can't stand living in a world based on input from the five senses any more. I have to acknowledge and explore what is more hidden behind the curtain. So when this ascension bit came up, along with a very detailed explanation for why and how, I suddenly felt the pressure start to lift on all the BIG questions everyone ponders about life and the nature of reality.
The Mayan Calendar points to the winter solstice of 2012 for the beginning of a new age according to the calendar system, an age of roughly 26,000 years. This falls roughly around the beginning of the so-called Age of Aquarius of western astrology. And Terence McKenna found a fractal timewave of Earth's history buried in the King Wen sequence of the I-Ching, with the end pointing to--yup, Dec. 2012.
Pause for a moment while I reiterate some things. I'm a very rational, sensible person, not prone to flights of fancy. All this far-out stuff makes sense in my mind because my paradigm, my views on reality have changed radically so many times in the past few years as a result of all this research. Here I had two seperate completely unrelated systems pointing to the same date for the end of one world and the beginning of another. I was convinced SOMETHING was happening, but what?
Then I found ascension2000.com. Forget David's bit about Edgar Cayce for a minute and focus on his writing...seamlessly blending science with spirituality. It's hard for me to believe that this shift is so close too, but when I really look at the world I live in, things are accelerating towards some kind of climax, and the rate of acceleration is increasing exponentially. The 20th century illustrates this with so many advances of such magnitude that used to take hundreds, even thousands of years.
I'm aware that people say the "world will end" every year, and I ignore most of this stuff. The millenium was just ripe for the picking, big deal. 2012 is different for me because, taking into account the science/spirit grounded explanation of why and how makes sense in my reality model...in fact, it fits like the final puzzle piece. Of course, I don't know exactly what's going to happen, but I know changes are coming, and it's going to be a gradual crescendo to this final point, at which time the world as we know it will end. Not doom-and-gloom, but an evolutionary leap.
Nowadays, I've basically solved all the theological/philosophical questions I needed answered through my research and building a working model of reality. Some questions just sorta became less important, some solve themselves. I constantly question my sanity. My waking life feels more like a dream all the time, and my dreams feel progressively more real. I'm not afraid of anything anymore. The WORST thing that could happen to me is that I could die and go onto the afterlife, but it would have been part of my master plan (loose destiny, as I call it.) So I play the game of life happily, carefree, and try to help others who are wrapped up in the illusions that abound in this density of existence. I try to stay away from negative influences, such as conspiracy theories/extraterrestrial-UFO coverup, because it has kind of become a moot point for me.
Just for the record, apocalypse means "lifting of the veil" and armageddon means "the revealing." Dogmatic beliefs associated these terms with doom and gloom, which is negative, which I try to stay away from. At some point in this rant, you may have asked if the info I recieved was disinformation. Well, it's totally possible, but I'm pretty convinced while remaining grounded in reasoning. Watch out for disinformation, question the motivation, be ready for anything, have faith in the divine plan, learn your lessons, and remember that this is all a game.
What I said in the earlier post about "life being broken down into the choice to serve others or yourself" was poorly communicated/simplified. What I meant to say was, that the lesson to be learned in this density of existence is to serve others, and as all are one, serving yourself through others. Each density level holds a different overall lesson for spiritual evolution that one must learn before they're ready for the next level. The service to others lesson is especially hard to learn on Earth right now living in America, simply because of our consumerist culture.
OK, I don't think I have the energy to continue so I'll wrap it up. I know most of this is very specific, and I don't expect everyone to believe it, but it might interest some on this board, or at the very least provoke thought. I learned the hard way that trying to change someone's beliefs isn't worth the effort, so I repect others as I'd like to be respected. I could be totally wrong, and I'm definitely not completely right, but I felt compelled to clarify. And, I'm done.
-Drew
bitsmart -
information illumination -
bitsmart@bitsmart.org -
Man, I'm sorry I was away from this forum for so long, I missed a lot, but keeping up with a forum is hard work. I believe it was my original post about the ascension2000.com site that started this whole 'doom-monger' rant. Also back in that post I didn't really explain my views very well. I'm finally back participating in this forum when I can, and I felt my first task should be clearing this up.
I consider myself to be a very rational, left-brained person. I've been a bookworm all my life, and computers came very naturally, plus, I used to be an atheist because all that spiritual/religious mumbo jumbo was non-sensical.
Then I started to percieve things differently, slowly but surely. I grew curious at first, and began doing research on psychic abilities and such. Then my life started to get more weird, and I desperately searched for a model of reality that made sense, that would ground me. I read about quantum physics, the multi-dimesional universe, Unified Field Theory, integral philosophy, eastern religion, metaprogramming and brain circuits, the healing properties of sound (I write electronic music), dreams, OBE, psychic phenomena, UFOs and aliens, conspiracy theories, the list goes on. I'm currently suffering from information overload; in other words, I know all this really interesting stuff, so much I don't know what to do with it, I just KNOW IT. Period.
I still had the basic questions that everyone has...why am I here, what's it all about, how's it gonna end, etc., and then I stumbled upon the Mayan Calendar and Terence McKenna's timewave.
Now I draw a big dividing line between doom-and-gloom scenarios and ascension-type scenarios, first off. I don't like Nostradamus because he's too negative. We're not gonna blow ourselves to smithereens, I'm sure of that much. I don't believe that it's gonna be a Rapture, specific only to Christians or other people of a certain faith, or that it will play out exactly as it is written in Revelation. Prophecy is imperfect, because a prophecy is based on probability, not pre-written fate. Probablity being based on variables, even chaos, that can change over time, the outcome is subject to misalignment with the prophecised scenario.
Then there's disinformation, people who falsify or recieve false information and it becomes belief, usually because it's really wild and sensational. I believe this Planet X/asteroid/meteor scenario is one such disinformation ploy meant to distract and confuse people.
All the way I've tried to use good judgement and do enough research on any one topic that I could make an educated decision whether to believe something or not. I feel that I need some beliefs which can't be proven, because I can't stand living in a world based on input from the five senses any more. I have to acknowledge and explore what is more hidden behind the curtain. So when this ascension bit came up, along with a very detailed explanation for why and how, I suddenly felt the pressure start to lift on all the BIG questions everyone ponders about life and the nature of reality.
The Mayan Calendar points to the winter solstice of 2012 for the beginning of a new age according to the calendar system, an age of roughly 26,000 years. This falls roughly around the beginning of the so-called Age of Aquarius of western astrology. And Terence McKenna found a fractal timewave of Earth's history buried in the King Wen sequence of the I-Ching, with the end pointing to--yup, Dec. 2012.
Pause for a moment while I reiterate some things. I'm a very rational, sensible person, not prone to flights of fancy. All this far-out stuff makes sense in my mind because my paradigm, my views on reality have changed radically so many times in the past few years as a result of all this research. Here I had two seperate completely unrelated systems pointing to the same date for the end of one world and the beginning of another. I was convinced SOMETHING was happening, but what?
Then I found ascension2000.com. Forget David's bit about Edgar Cayce for a minute and focus on his writing...seamlessly blending science with spirituality. It's hard for me to believe that this shift is so close too, but when I really look at the world I live in, things are accelerating towards some kind of climax, and the rate of acceleration is increasing exponentially. The 20th century illustrates this with so many advances of such magnitude that used to take hundreds, even thousands of years.
I'm aware that people say the "world will end" every year, and I ignore most of this stuff. The millenium was just ripe for the picking, big deal. 2012 is different for me because, taking into account the science/spirit grounded explanation of why and how makes sense in my reality model...in fact, it fits like the final puzzle piece. Of course, I don't know exactly what's going to happen, but I know changes are coming, and it's going to be a gradual crescendo to this final point, at which time the world as we know it will end. Not doom-and-gloom, but an evolutionary leap.
Nowadays, I've basically solved all the theological/philosophical questions I needed answered through my research and building a working model of reality. Some questions just sorta became less important, some solve themselves. I constantly question my sanity. My waking life feels more like a dream all the time, and my dreams feel progressively more real. I'm not afraid of anything anymore. The WORST thing that could happen to me is that I could die and go onto the afterlife, but it would have been part of my master plan (loose destiny, as I call it.) So I play the game of life happily, carefree, and try to help others who are wrapped up in the illusions that abound in this density of existence. I try to stay away from negative influences, such as conspiracy theories/extraterrestrial-UFO coverup, because it has kind of become a moot point for me.
Just for the record, apocalypse means "lifting of the veil" and armageddon means "the revealing." Dogmatic beliefs associated these terms with doom and gloom, which is negative, which I try to stay away from. At some point in this rant, you may have asked if the info I recieved was disinformation. Well, it's totally possible, but I'm pretty convinced while remaining grounded in reasoning. Watch out for disinformation, question the motivation, be ready for anything, have faith in the divine plan, learn your lessons, and remember that this is all a game.
What I said in the earlier post about "life being broken down into the choice to serve others or yourself" was poorly communicated/simplified. What I meant to say was, that the lesson to be learned in this density of existence is to serve others, and as all are one, serving yourself through others. Each density level holds a different overall lesson for spiritual evolution that one must learn before they're ready for the next level. The service to others lesson is especially hard to learn on Earth right now living in America, simply because of our consumerist culture.
OK, I don't think I have the energy to continue so I'll wrap it up. I know most of this is very specific, and I don't expect everyone to believe it, but it might interest some on this board, or at the very least provoke thought. I learned the hard way that trying to change someone's beliefs isn't worth the effort, so I repect others as I'd like to be respected. I could be totally wrong, and I'm definitely not completely right, but I felt compelled to clarify. And, I'm done.
-Drew
bitsmart -
information illumination -
bitsmart@bitsmart.org -
Title: I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL 2004!!!
Post by: auraseer on December 07, 2002, 10:00:12
Post by: auraseer on December 07, 2002, 10:00:12
Hi,
I really think you guys should check this out: http://www.2012.com.au .
Cya,
auraseer.
http://psychicabilities.tripod.com/psychic
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Everyone has limits. Learn to extend them and you will go further.
The physical body can do more than people think it can.
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I really think you guys should check this out: http://www.2012.com.au .
Cya,
auraseer.
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Everyone has limits. Learn to extend them and you will go further.
The physical body can do more than people think it can.
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Title: I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL 2004!!!
Post by: coral1 on December 07, 2002, 19:19:19
Post by: coral1 on December 07, 2002, 19:19:19
Hi Drew,
Thanks for an interesting post.I`ve never run across a fractal timewave before.I`ll have to check out my physics books. Sounds intruiguing.I guess I had better check out Terrence McKenna too. Lots of people here have been arguing about him lately.I`ll check back after I do my homework.
Happy Trails
coral1
Thanks for an interesting post.I`ve never run across a fractal timewave before.I`ll have to check out my physics books. Sounds intruiguing.I guess I had better check out Terrence McKenna too. Lots of people here have been arguing about him lately.I`ll check back after I do my homework.
Happy Trails
coral1
Title: I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL 2004!!!
Post by: bitsmart on December 08, 2002, 21:42:04
Post by: bitsmart on December 08, 2002, 21:42:04
quote:
Originally posted by auraseer:
I really think you guys should check this out: http://www.2012.com.au .
I don't trust most of the stuff on that site.
bitsmart -
information illumination -
bitsmart@bitsmart.org -
Title: I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL 2004!!!
Post by: Gandalf on December 09, 2002, 05:46:44
Post by: Gandalf on December 09, 2002, 05:46:44
superb reading Bitsmart..
I enjoyed your post... I agree with a lot of what you say there...
time will tell I suppose..
Douglas
I enjoyed your post... I agree with a lot of what you say there...
time will tell I suppose..
Douglas
Title: I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL 2004!!!
Post by: kakkarot on January 14, 2003, 18:05:04
Post by: kakkarot on January 14, 2003, 18:05:04
KABOOM!
[narrator's voice:] This was just a test. If this had been an actual destruction of the universe, you would be dead. Luckily you are not (or at least, you shouldn't be). In the event of a real destruction of the universe, please contact you local government disaster agency for instructions on ways to kiss your @$$ good-bye.
This was just a test.
[my voice:] hehehe.
~kakkarot
[narrator's voice:] This was just a test. If this had been an actual destruction of the universe, you would be dead. Luckily you are not (or at least, you shouldn't be). In the event of a real destruction of the universe, please contact you local government disaster agency for instructions on ways to kiss your @$$ good-bye.
This was just a test.
[my voice:] hehehe.
~kakkarot
Title: I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL 2004!!!
Post by: Gandalf on November 16, 2002, 04:48:42
Post by: Gandalf on November 16, 2002, 04:48:42
Because then I'm going to come back and ask all the doom-mongers on this forum who have constantly been faffing on about how they have 'funny feelings' about 2003 (just like last year when they had funny feelings about 2002..yawn)
Everyonel line up in January 2004 because I will want VERY GOOD explanations as to why we are all still here....
If I am still around in 2012 (and this forum is still there) I will be doing the same!
Of course, part of the reason for doing this is that I always enjoy doom-mongers explanations as to why the end of the world DIDNT come about as planed, usually using old favourites as cosmic ray mis-alignment, dark forces scuppered it, etc... get your thinking hats on!
Regards,
Douglas
PS you may have noticed the slight sceptisism in my post, sorry about that if you take offence..
I think prophesy and divination is great when it pertains to using oracles like the Tarot, I Ching, runes etc which are used for individual personal development and to get guidance on present situations/developing situations...
but this is quite different form predicting the end of the world-catastrophies etc
This is just tedious and shows the ingrained result of years of fundamentalist christian, apocalyptic mythology which seems to so obsess americans...
I only point this out because in Europe this kind of mindset does not really exist, In America however, notions that judgement day is coming and so on seems to be accepted as fact, which to us seems quite odd!
Can we all start talking about proper divination now... please???
Douglas
Everyonel line up in January 2004 because I will want VERY GOOD explanations as to why we are all still here....
If I am still around in 2012 (and this forum is still there) I will be doing the same!
Of course, part of the reason for doing this is that I always enjoy doom-mongers explanations as to why the end of the world DIDNT come about as planed, usually using old favourites as cosmic ray mis-alignment, dark forces scuppered it, etc... get your thinking hats on!
Regards,
Douglas
PS you may have noticed the slight sceptisism in my post, sorry about that if you take offence..
I think prophesy and divination is great when it pertains to using oracles like the Tarot, I Ching, runes etc which are used for individual personal development and to get guidance on present situations/developing situations...
but this is quite different form predicting the end of the world-catastrophies etc
This is just tedious and shows the ingrained result of years of fundamentalist christian, apocalyptic mythology which seems to so obsess americans...
I only point this out because in Europe this kind of mindset does not really exist, In America however, notions that judgement day is coming and so on seems to be accepted as fact, which to us seems quite odd!
Can we all start talking about proper divination now... please???
Douglas