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Title: I wish this dam psiwheel would turn... OMG!!!!!!
Post by: cube on August 03, 2004, 19:37:13
When you can get it to turn a full circle you can rule out that it was a little imbalanced to start with. I've turned aluminum foil around on a pin several times but only like 1/4 turn, and then it falls back. I'm never quite sure if it's me or just air currents because it doesn't go the whole way.
Title: I wish this dam psiwheel would turn... OMG!!!!!!
Post by: Pyrodap on August 03, 2004, 20:35:38
okay, i just made it go in a full circle twice! but even so... its strange that i can only do it with my left hand, AND that i cant do it with the glass cover over it.

Well i HOPE it's not some strange micro wind... It may be psychological that I cant do it with the glass... But why only my left hand?

I'm going to try with the key on a string thing now...
Title: I wish this dam psiwheel would turn... OMG!!!!!!
Post by: cube on August 03, 2004, 21:36:27
Pretty cool! You should make a video of it and upload it to the site.

I've done a lot of etheric separation meditations practicing mainly on my left arm, and moving energy through my legs. The other day I woke up and my legs were separated and so was my left arm but my torso, head and right arm were totally stuck.

I reached over with my left arm and tried to wrench my right arm free, it could feel that it was there with my left hand but it was stuck like concrete. I eventually gave up and woke up.

But it goes to show that it is quite possible to develop parts of your awareness asymmetrically so maybe doing NEW on both of your hands or practice moving energy between your hands through your fingers might even things out.
Title: I wish this dam psiwheel would turn... OMG!!!!!!
Post by: beavis on August 04, 2004, 03:59:35
You cant know if you did it for sure until you use the glass cover. Its not any harder because telekinesis doesnt use any energy between you and the wheel. Its all on the wheel directly. If there is a path between you and it, it goes through a nonphysical dimension and only intersects this one at you and the wheel. Its not much good to upload a video unless its covered. It wont convince anyone.
Title: I wish this dam psiwheel would turn... OMG!!!!!!
Post by: cube on August 04, 2004, 08:40:01
I agree with Beavis, but the point of do a video is not really to convince people of anything since even if it's covered it could still be rigged. It's more to show and give an idea of the technique used.

For instance, last night I was playing around with a pinwheel and I found that if I reversed my hands so my fingers were all pointing in the same spiral, I could get the wheel to spin really really fast.

But, that doesn't even convince me I'm doing anything because I keep thinking I'm somehow setting up air currents with my hands. It doesn't act like it's an air current but it just seems too easy for it to really be TK.

It seems to be an all or nothing thing for me, either it spins and spins or I can't get it to do anything.
Title: I wish this dam psiwheel would turn... OMG!!!!!!
Post by: Michael_E on August 04, 2004, 11:25:35
i put a glass cup over a thumb tack and bubble gum wrapper made into a wheel and wasnt able to get it to spin but insted the wrapper would move up and down. when i put my hand close to the glass it would move up and when i took my hand away it would move back to its orginal position. could never do it again and i have no idea how it was done since i wasnt concentrating on anything,  it would just move by itself as soon as i put my hand near the glass.
Title: I wish this dam psiwheel would turn... OMG!!!!!!
Post by: open_mind on August 04, 2004, 13:29:55
i have found that i can move the psi wheel when it is coverd, but it becomes MUCH harder, must be becaus i expect it to be... and you guys use the word "concentrate" and imagined, i never do that i just let it happen naturaly, i just expect it to move and so it does. just like moving my arm, i dont concentrate to move my arm i just do it.
Title: I wish this dam psiwheel would turn... OMG!!!!!!
Post by: LogoRat on August 05, 2004, 09:01:51
Ive been practicing TK for a couple of days and made the wheel turn.
I was sceptical looking at all those tk videos, but i go by the idea that in order to get the truth i have todo it myself.

No video's and no friends could convince me that its reality unless i do it myself to see that it actually works.

Even when i do it myself i still question it, thinking its the wind even tho it turns left or right with will and spinning for several minutes.

Its an old belief that needs to go down. Years and years of thinking that nothing could be moved without physical interraction.

Ive been away on vacation now for 2 weeks and when i got back i was trying the psiwheel again, and i couldnt do it, even tho i had the same handposition and had the same wheel infront of me.
I practiced for some 2-3h and now i can make it spin again.

I cannot do it with a shield over it yet, its the only thing that would rule out the wind issue.

It feels as if i need more practice before i can have a shield over it to make it turn.

Personally i dont feel that it is nessesary to proove that it works by showing it to others.
Tho it is a cool thing to show someone and say, look what i can do.
But you cant proove it to them, you can only show it to them.
in order for them to see its true they need todo it themselves.

No videos in the world could proove anything, not even private shows.

Lots of public magicians are good at fooling mostly everyone by their tricks, and many people know they can.

People will only see you as a person doing a cool trick.

Tho, your videos is nice to share around those who are into it themselves and share experiences.


Thumbs up for you Pyrodap!!
Keep up the good work!
Title: I wish this dam psiwheel would turn... OMG!!!!!!
Post by: Pyrodap on August 06, 2004, 06:33:53
Okay, ive been practicing, now i can change directions and speed without moving my hands. As for proof about it, although i still can't do it with a glass over the psiwheel, i can do it from across the room.

Just so you know, I made four different psiwheels. Three are foil, of different sizes, one is a medium sized paper.

The wheels were perfectly still, and i was like 6-7 feet away, lying on my bed. (i had just woken up) I glanced over and saw them there, so i decided to try and move one of them.

Without much effort, the one i was focusing started to turn just a bit, and eventually in a full circle. I then reversed direction. I'm POSITIVE this is TK - there is NO way it's wind.

Also, yesterday, I was trying to spin the largest wheel, and a small wheel next to it jumped - it almost fell off the pin.

Now I'm able to make it spin relatively fast if i try...

anyway back to work!! later!
Title: I wish this dam psiwheel would turn... OMG!!!!!!
Post by: Yosso on August 07, 2004, 06:51:01
Lucky! *glares* I can move it but only when I'm not really intending too. I can move a matchstick on water when I'm intending and I can make a spinning top spin in one place when I really try.
Title: I wish this dam psiwheel would turn... OMG!!!!!!
Post by: aninfinity1717 on September 01, 2004, 16:15:12
To Pyrodap

How long did it take you to experience your first TK?? thx
Title: I wish this dam psiwheel would turn... OMG!!!!!!
Post by: Pyrodap on August 03, 2004, 19:02:02
HAHA! MY FIRST TK EXPERIENCE!!!!

ok, i was chatting with some people about psionics, telepathy, stuff like that, and my hand was next to the psiwheel. i glanced at it... it was mocking me... "Haha. you cant mooooooove me." said the wheel. (not really) "Oh yeah?!"

i imagined like a watery air flowing out the palm of my hand, and it turned - just a centimeter or 2, but it turned!! I tried again, and it worked! again, only a centimeter, but YAAAAAAAAAAY