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Metaphysics => Welcome to Metaphysics! => Topic started by: cainam_nazier on April 05, 2002, 16:24:22

Title: idea for cainam_nazier
Post by: cainam_nazier on April 05, 2002, 16:24:22
I had thought about that.  Something similar.  The mind saying okay your need to stop for a bit.  That is an acceptable reason.  But let me pose this question.
As I had stated through my research that point at which I got stuck is believe to control/create memories and/or house the more primal functions of human thought.  SO, is it possible for the mind to create a sinerio to explain damage and/or the turning off of that point?  It is logical to say that your mind/body knows where every thing is in you and what it does.  But could it say "this is damaged or in need of repair" and then say "this type of damage would turn it off"  and then plot a course to the exterior of the body, then pick a kind of injury, then let your imagination or experiences fill in the blanks?
Example.  You have large internal bruse on say you kidney.  It just developed or you did something. But in either case you are not fully aware of it.  So the mind trys to tell you through a dream. So it figures that the only way that happened was through a strong impact of a blut object a point A.  Then you imagination or experience kicks in through the rest of the dream and fills in  the blanks.  Say you have a dream about getting hit by a car, or kicked by a horse, or even hit with a baseball bat.  And so on.  Is it possible for the brain to perform that complex of a task?

If you had a hard time following I will try to explain better.



David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com
Title: idea for cainam_nazier
Post by: reclining orb on April 06, 2002, 13:51:47
I remember some program (tv?) where a lady talked about a recurring dream of wolves attacking her and eating some specific part of her body, her intestines or something.  Very disturbing for her, you can imagine.  She later was diagnosed with stomach cancer. It's not something that I have experienced, but maybe someone on the forum will have something personal to contribute here.

As for the mind/consciousness being smart enough to compose such a message and send it to you via a dream..  I find that my body knows better than I do plenty of times; a slight shake in my hand as I'm about to do something wrong, a fall in my gut when a girl I admire is near, a seeming failure of my tongue to cooperate when I'm about to say something that I'll later regret.  

I don't try to figure out exactly how the body participates in what we think of as intelligence.  I am of the opinion that it does act intelligently, however the mechanism.

Title: idea for cainam_nazier
Post by: cainam_nazier on April 07, 2002, 13:36:02
Okay a body dream.  I have not heard that term.  Please explain.



"And there I was in the middle of nowhere with out close loking down thinking...Man it's cold."


David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com
Title: idea for cainam_nazier
Post by: reclining orb on April 07, 2002, 17:25:18
You have heard the term "monkey mind?"  It's a Buddhist (Zen, i think) term that refers to how our waking mind tends to jump around from one idea to the next without almost ever shutting up.  "What will I do about the project at work, oh ratz the coffee is terrible, jeepers I'm later than I wanted to be, doesn't anybody notice I'm running late and say... blah blah blah".  Like a monkey, jumping from one "branch" to the next.

How is that relevant? Well, at night it shuts up.  Finally, feelings of parts of the body that were ignored all day get to take center stage.  Little, hard to notice feelings suddenly get a louder voice (seemingly) as the other noises quiet.  Not too much of a step from there for the "body dream" to be born, right?  Don't think of it as a body dream, so much as a "mind-quiet" dream.
Title: idea for cainam_nazier
Post by: cainam_nazier on April 13, 2002, 05:43:03
So basically it's like the body gettig a chance to express pain, achs, or healthyness?  Would that be an accurate assumption?


David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com
Title: idea for cainam_nazier
Post by: reclining orb on April 14, 2002, 22:38:47
Yes, one function of some dreams is to provide an "executive summary" of the state of physical health.

A second important function may be to prepare the mind for changes that are happening in the body.  From a spiritual point of view, both elements must be addressed.  If your body had made a necessary and proper "shut-down" to initiate its healing process, then spiritually you were supposed to get better. But what would be the point if you lost your composure in dealing with the sudden loss of your sense of reality and did something foolish to disrupt your life? Both sides needed protection in this case; your body and your mind.  If that's the case, then it was important for you to know about the change before you woke-up and felt that your whole world had gone away with no explanation or warning.  

This seems to me like a case I saw about a guy who was in a coma for months following an auto accident.  In his dreams he had lots of "body" dreams.  The effect of these dreams was that when he woke up months later he already knew about his injuries.  He had to deal with the shock of discovering how long he had been in a coma, but at least that wasn't compounded by discovering at the same time the extent of his injuries, too.

Best wishes!
Title: idea for cainam_nazier
Post by: cainam_nazier on April 15, 2002, 10:32:11
Maybe it was not a proper shut-down but a necissary one.  Maybe the dream or something I did prior caused an overload effect. You would think that if the body was to turn something off at would do so in a more polite maaner as not to seriously desturbe you.
I kinda look at it more like pinching a nerve.  Next thing you know is you can't move your arm.  Things like that.




"Wisdom comes with knowing that you know less than originally believed."


David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com
Title: idea for cainam_nazier
Post by: reclining orb on April 05, 2002, 05:59:18
Hey,

An idea popped in my mind the other day that your dream was likely your body telling you that it needed to shut down all psychic operations for a while.  This was probably in order to repair, & prepare for continued development later on.  The phrase, "Don't worry, he won't remember anything" was probably a way of saying that your being wouldn't remember any of it's psychic functions for a while. (so don't worry about damaging or interfering with the scheduled repairs-- kind of like highway-work; they don't just fix the road but also cordon-off the lanes affected by repair so nobody messes things up)
After about a year, everything fixed up, you swoon and come back on line with everything reconnected.

Could be wrong, of course.  Feels like a body-dream, though.  I think it might help to be aware that we get dreams from various sources.  Sometimes they are just a case of strange blood-chemistry, sometimes they are psychological, sometimes spiritual, and sometimes the body talks to us via a dream.  Ask yourself what source did that dream come from?  Best wishes.