Intuition vs. Psychic

jilola · December 25, 2002, 12:48:18

Pretty much what I'd say if asked to define the terms.
Precognition is knowing the bank will be robbed intuition is gettig the feeling one should mow the lawn instead of going to the meeting with the bank manager.
Precog is the knowing that some events take place regardless of who tey happen to. Youcan have precog about someone else.
Intuition, at least for me, is knowing which way to go and is closely related to me. I've never had a intuition that wasn't meant fo me to understand and act upon.

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jouni

aussie_swede · December 25, 2002, 15:44:43

Yes. Good point.
Maybe i should rephrase what i was meaning.
1. Are psychic abilities and intuition closely related?
2. Is intuition just a fancy name for having a psychic feeling?
cheers,
-Steve-

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wisp · December 25, 2002, 15:54:27

I consider them the same thing.

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jilola · December 25, 2002, 18:34:32

What is "psychic ability"?

Is there a difference between receiving information from an external source (precog) and from our higher self (intuition)?
Is listening and being attuned to one's higher self psychic?

I think of the difference between intuition and precog as the difference between 1st person and 3rd person. In the former I'm the experiencer in the latter the observer.

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jouni

cainam_nazier · December 25, 2002, 18:58:24

Intuition=psychic

They are the same. It is just that some people use the word intuition instead of psychic to make themsleves feel better. People in general equate the word psychic with either A) beyond the considered norm, or B) being really wierd or of the devil. So in general most people do not want to consider themselves psychich at all. They either don't think they are special enough or they have a misconseption that it is evil.

But as we all here know it is neither evil or special. It's normal! Every one can do if they listen to thier guts.

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jilola · December 26, 2002, 07:30:34

Intuition!=psychic, imho.

The term psychic clearly implies a source of knowledge external to ourselves.
Intuition doesn't always imply that. It can just as well be the ability to pick up subtle physical signals and to jump to a conclusion based on them alone. In other words without the complete chain of deductive/inductive logic.
We are just listening to our higher selves and as at least I feel that we are our higher selves there is no need for any psychic skill.

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jouni

aussie_swede · December 27, 2002, 03:51:49

Jilola: You made a very good point about distinguishing the two points. It does make sense that intuition is from your higher self and being psychic/precog is witnessing them.

cainam_nazier: Your view was the one i had before i started this thread but now Jilola has me thinking.

Next question; How do you distinguish between the two. Ex. An outer force is showing you the correct way to guide you away from trouble. This message may not be coming from your higher self.

Can you see how the two of them can be closely related? This is probably what causes the confusion. How can you tell them apart? If it is a message from your higher self or an outer source?

Appreciate the input.
Cheers,
-Steve-

Step outside the square you live in.

cainam_nazier · December 27, 2002, 22:10:13

To me I do not see it as you "recieving" information from an outside source at all. IMO in both cases "you" are reaching out for the information. I see intuition as the gut or animalistic re-action to that information. The uncontrolled responce, the one that can not be ignored. But a person being considered "psychic" is doing the same thing just on a more controlled or in tune level. But I still see them both as the same thing.

Intuition or the animal level psychic would get the feeling of danger. So you get away from the area. Not sure what is going to happen but only knowing that you don't want to be there when it does.

Psychic, which would bring you past the animal level to a more controlled version, would say that there is a really mean dog coming this way and it is going to maul some one.

Being truely pre-cognative would be more like, there is a dog coming and it is going to maul the guy in the blue jeans and green shirt. But he won't see it coming because he is reading his paper and drinking his coffee.

David Rogalski
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aussie_swede · December 28, 2002, 07:09:59

Ahhh...my head is defragmenting.
All good points.

Maybe this is repeating a question but, If you are sensing that danger will come then what are you using then?

Is there an example when you are listening to your higher self.eg. Coffee is not helping you.

I still can't see both of them together.

Pardon my immature brain

Cheers,
-Steve-

Step outside the square you live in.

cainam_nazier · December 28, 2002, 13:34:49

Your intuition. Its just that it is stronger in some people than in orthers. Also the only reason for the difference of labeling is so that people have some idea of the degree at which a person can use the ability. I see all of the so called psychic stuff as naturally born abilities that lay with in every one. But the majority of the populas does not share that thought and so create different words for the same things when it happens to them. This is so they can feel better about thenmselves and not have problems with thier belief structure.

It is basically the same thing as other titles. Electrician, Jorneyman Electrician, and Master Electrician.

David Rogalski
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wisp · December 28, 2002, 13:41:22

Could this be when some people use the word "channeling"?

jilola · December 28, 2002, 15:47:16

How about this: Inutiotion is indirectly experienced information causing us to act in some way.

They are closely related and It's possible that trying to disentangle them is an exercise in futility. They may be different levels of being conscious of the same information flow.

2cents & L&L
jouni

cainam_nazier · December 28, 2002, 18:05:15

Wisp,

Now I see intuition and channeling as 2 totally different things. Channeling would be actually asking for out side assistance and where as intuition is an internal source.

jilola,

Now I have to think about that statement, the first one. But I do totally agree with the second one. But that's what makes open discussion fun! It helps you to take a more serious look at what and how you believe stuff.

But any how. I dunno. I think intuition would be more of a directly experienced item. I say this because to me it is some thing that you pick up from your enviroment or your connections with other people. Using the dog again. You feel the danger coming, or see it even. AN external source of information to me would seem more like advice or instruction. You get a sudden "look out for the dog" or "don't go to work".

You mentioned the 1st/3rd person thing with pre-cog being more of a 3rd perosn. The only problem I see when dealing with true pre-cog is that can be either tuned in from an internal source or received by an external source.

Okay my brain is frying out. I need a minute to think.
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David Rogalski
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cainam_nazier · December 28, 2002, 18:20:13

I still think that they are all a naturally born ability and the only thing learned is control.

Okay lets's look at it this way.

A major difference between intuition, "psychic", and pre-cog would be the individual and how they perceive thier informaiton. It seems that all could be either and internal or external, direct or indirect sources of information. Another difference being the individuals level of clarity.

Now stay with me here, it may get confusing as will play out both sides.

As far as clarity.

It could very well be that the higher a persons clarity and control the less need for external sources of information. That they are no longer in need of "help" and can see the various situations for themselves.

Or it could be the other way around. That a person with a high level of clarity and control can receive thier information from ALL sources including external ones.

In the end, it's just two sides of the same coin. The terms and definitions change depending on who you are talking to and thier beliefs.

Is that an agreeable statement?

David Rogalski
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I am he who walks in the light but is masked by the shadows.
David127385.freestoreclub.com

bluegrasser · January 14, 2003, 09:50:25

Hi. I am new here, but what led me to this forum was that I think I have been having precognitive dreams for quite some time, but never tuned into it until someone told me, "You are a psychic dreamer." Or maybe I have had astral visitation and received messages from someone during a lucid dream. I don't know which. It's a little confusing to me and I don't know much about it.

But also, I have very strong intuitive feelings and 9 out of 10 times they are on. I think maybe intuition and precognition or psychic are interconnected somehow, but not exactly the same, necessarily.

Ever get that "feeling" in your gut, your solar plexis when something is going on that has a profound affect on you? That ahaaah moment when you just "KNOW", 'Oh my gosh', this is it! Oh dear, now what am I going to do now? That feeling I had is confirmed by this "gut-knowing". To me , it is a "gut know" rather that a "gut feel", because it's proven to be true. I just 'know'.

I certainly don't consider myself to be a "psychic" but just very intuitive and I think the two are connected somehow.

If anyone has any comments for me I would love to read them.

bg

fredhedd · January 14, 2003, 15:03:53

i don't believe that it's possible to seperate ther terms intuition and psychic. if the seperation is attempted at the level of clarity that is experienced, intuition being the lesser or the two, then intuition is psychic ability at a lower level. what would you call the lowest form of psychic ability if not intuition? can a gut feeling or instinct really be labeled as being non-psychic?

all information received is either external or internal depending on your standpoint. i don't believe that a seperatation of the kind of information you receive can take place. if it's truly believed that we are all one then all information is internal. if it's belived that you are seperate from anything else then all information is external. if information manifests due to a conclusion drawn about any phenomena, that conclusion was drawn from information already received via something external, ie. you witnessing an event. if information was received from something other than your five senses it would also be considered external. this includes receiving information from your higher self, who had to have gotten the information from another source which was external. that last one would apply to anyone that believed 'you' exist as only the you that's known now and your higher self.

aussie_swede · December 24, 2002, 16:29:31

I was thinking about how my intuition leads me in some interesting directions some times.

People like to say that they had "a good feeling about it" but if studied more closely arent you just unconsciously being guided by some kind of psychic feeling.

What is the difference between intuition and precognition. I mean i know that precog is seing events that happen in the future and intuition is getting a feeling as to what the right path, option etc. is.

Am i making any sense? If my personal definitions are off then put in your two cents as jioli likes to say. If you dont understand the second bit then just pay attention to the first line of the second paragraph. =)

Cheers,
-Steve-

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