Wow You Should Read This!

[Mobius]

Hi Ron

I've been following the Montauk/ Philadelphia/ HAARP story for a few years now & have written about it in this forum a few times, but no-one seems interested.

Incredible stories & if any of it is true it's frightening. My favourite site on it all is called "Lilith" "What the heck is the Montauk project", but I can't put the link up for some reason, tried it before, doesn't work, only on my favourites.

The events that supposedly happened in the Montauk base was the one that really blew me away. Maybe if we had someone in here from New York, they could take a drive up & at least see if the park & underground base is still active or exists at all. The Montauk site was also an ancient indian site, which had ancient pyramids on the site, also meant to be a significant geomagnetic hotspot, for all activities involving energy.

Interesting article, thanks mate.

Mobius

[Joe]

I took a look at the link, and although I generally dislike making statements like this, that's got to be a load of rubbish. This was the first time I've read an account of that sort of material, and I haven't watched The Philadelphia Experiment movie or anything, so I started reading with an open mind, and could accept the theoretical possibility of some of his statements regarding classified military research and even possibly extra-terrestrial presence and technological inventions. Although I wouldn't say his claims on that stuff were true, they are a very remote possibility given what the general public don't know.

But then he started talking about a whole bunch of stuff that he's seen  through time travel, alien invasions, etc, etc and I read one sentence after another that was just trash. Some of the strongest flaws are in his pre-2000 predictions of what would occur in 2000/01/02, eg...
- "massive Earth changes hit in 2000, governments all over the world collapsed, planetary population was down to 450-500 million"
- "by the year 2000, Atlanta city was recked by riots and war, and it's population reduced from 3.5 million, believe it or not, to 15,000"
- "alien spaceships attempted a mass invasion of Earth, but due to Russian and American particle beam technology, all their ships were shot down outside Earth's atmosphere. The Russians were shooting down 30 a day, the Americans roughly 5-6 a day, covering many football fields with ship carcasses" (these must have been expectionally bright aliens to navigate millions of light years and bend time, but not figure out when they're becoming cannon fodder....)
- and so many, many more classics

About half-way through his massive document, he starts rambling about future events, and tries to bring in a whole lot of New Age and Conspiracy material that was aimed to get a lot of his target audience on board (imho). There's so much contradictory and just plain ridiculous material there that I stopped reading. Convinced me that his earlier stuff was baloney as well, since his main assertion is that he was part of this underground military/alien/phil warship project, but his memory was erased, but then he was deprogrammed, but only some bits of it came back, and now he's on their call-back list, blah blah blah.

Sorry for the strong wording - it's not meant to offend anyone, but I just can't see how that article can be justified in any. It's one thing to believe in "X-file" type stuff, but another to just live in pure fantasy land, which I'm sure is closer to Al Bielek's state of mind.

[cainam_nazier]

I don't know.  I am interested but.

Some of the stuff that gets mentioned by all of these people are things that are already sapposed to have happened.  In that one the guy mentioned the colapse of the world and the destruction of a city that still stands and had no riots.  He said it happened in or before 2000.  Here it is 2002 and the still live.  Major things have already passed according to him.

But I tend to think that this is just another one of those fantastic tales told by some one who may have been ex-military looking for some money or just started loosing it.  Some of the things I do not think they could do with out the whole world knowing about it.


David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com
I am he who walks in the light but is masked by the shadows.

[Mobius]

I tend to agree that Mr Al Bieleks version sounds pretty out there & his predictions were very similar to ones predicted by Edgar Cayce that never came to fulfillment, L.A & california etc going under water in the years 1999 to 2000.

There are many sites that talk about the events that happened back then & if you do a search on Montauk or Philadelphia experiment, you end up with his name usually, even worse his site, which gives virtually no information but encourages you to buy his books & videos.

For someone trying to tell people about those events, he's doing a good job of getting people to dismiss it outright, a few more years of that & people will say the whole events & people involved were just myths, never existed.

Good journeys all

Mobius

[cainam_nazier]

You see.  Its all part of the governments use of mis-information and mis-direction.

And you know the fun thing about it. (that being paranoia)

"You only have to be right once to make it all worth while."


David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com
I am he who walks in the light but is masked by the shadows.

[RonnieBaby]

http://www.leadingedgenews.com/bielek3.htm

They swear it's true... I don't know what to believe as I am sure our government here in the USA is definitely hiding a lot of stuff from the public.

Does anyone else have any comments after reading this interview?

Ron Powers