Telepathy

[anjiera]

you could try using a carnellian to close your third eye...i think.
But the real question is how do you get telepathy in the first place?!?!? please exceuse me ^_^

[strwrs_guru]

i agree..............how do you turn it on in the first place?


i would love to be able to do this.


how do i work on developing this or any other metapsycical ability?

[cainam_nazier]

First of I will say this to those who wish to learn telepathy.  The burden of simply knowing is not something to be taken litely."

I first became interested in telepathy around the time I was 12-13.  Puberty was kicking in as well as the emotional difficulties of being an empath.  I was looking for control.

At 16 I discovered meditation.  The key in all endevors.  Sorry but it is pretty much manditory for those who are not "born-on".

I spent the next 4 to 5 years learning and practicing what I call "internal meditation" and "focused meditation".  (note:  I call it this because I don't know what else to call it and I was not reading it in any books or any thing else.  I just started doing it.)

I would spend about one hour every day just before I went to bed meditating.  I would allow myself to fall asleep towards the end.  This produced many insightfull dreams, which I won't share, sorry.  However durring the meditation I would not focus on the external world at all.  My goal was not to project or see anything out side of myself.  In stead my focus was inward.

I spent many hours tavelling the very depths of my own mind.  The goal at the time was to find my core being and build outward from there.  In doing this I realized that it was not needed to build from the inside out.  The process itself of going inward built the tunnels and pathways I was going to build later.  

The idea in doing this is not to focus on just one ability, such as telepathy.  But to focus on the awakening of your very being.  To tap into the less travelled areas of your mind.  This in theory gives you greater access to the capabilities of the mind.  Everything you are and do becomes inhanced by this process.  For me this created a general inhancement on sensory input.  Things begain to take on new shape, color, smell, and feel.

Around the time I was 20-21 I begain to focus on the external end of things.  Being confident that there was "some thing" there to use I decided to focus my attention on who else was out there.  Durring this kind of meditation I begain to hear random thoughts and voices.  It started with just a couple of words here and there but soon expanded to hearing conversations and the more important and confirmable aspect, the voices of friends of mine.  Through meditation, listening, and asking later I learned that I was infact hearing the thoughts/voices of people I knew.

But also durring this time I begain to hear the malicious and unfriendly voices as well.  It is important to learn how to guard yourself against those that would use your own thoughts and abilities against you.  I think this is when I picked up my first attachment.

But anyhow I pressed on.  I picked one of my close friends to try and make a solid contact with.  This persons mind was already open to me so there was no need to force entry, which I advise against for multiple moral and safety reasons.  When I started doing this I learned a couple of things about the human mind and emotions.  With this person anyway I found that it was easier to make contacts was they were not in a relationship.  I believe that this has to do with the level of focus of thier mind.  When a person is in a relationship with some one else thier thoughts tend to dwell on that person.  Since many of thier thoughts may not include you it is more difficult to get thier mind to notice your pressance.

To continue...It was not until I was about 23, this being 2 years of making attempts, did I actually make a solid undeniable connection.  Imagin hearing 1000 or so different things all at the same time in one voice.  It is the equivalent of being in Grand Central Station and every one in there being a clone of this one person, all of them talking and chit chatting away, to themselves, to each other, and to you.  Needless to say it was a bit overwhelming.  I learned more about that person in 3 seconds than I had in the 6 or so years I had known them.  

To this day there is still a very healthy connection with this person and I still get very unique information from them.  It has also resulted in knowing when I need to pick up the phone and call that person.  I will hear them call my name and know that they want/need to talk to me.  So I call them.  Its kinda neat.  But I have also learned things about that person that I really didn't need to know.  Like the first time they had sex with the new significant other.  That was an interesting set of images and emotions.  The thing of it is was why did I get thought of when this was happening?  That's been a running joke since.

Anyhow, this connection was the door opener for me.  I have some minor control over the event now.  I use it mostly in conversation to grabe surface thoughts from the people I interact with.  This is akin to passive pinging.  I am not forcing my way into thier brain but rather pulling surface thoughts and images, things they would have said or wanted me to know.

Anyhow I hope this helps in your journey.  

"Any questions? Any answers? Any one care for a mint?"

[kakkarot]

hey cainam, how you doing? i haven't read much from you lately (is it just my imagination or are you really slowing down on the number of posts you make? [|)])

how to stop it: well, i've found that emptying the mind (like what is done in meditation (and you thought meditation was useless :p)) works well for not projecting thoughts and for helping to prevent another person from reading your thoughts.

as well, shielding and buffering should help at least slur or slow down another person's mental intrusion. if you can't shield, then try meditating (again it comes up []) and focusing your mind and spirit inward; that should create a sort of natural shield to help stop it.

~kakkarot [|)]

[cainam_nazier]

quote: hey cainam, how you doing? i haven't read much from you lately (is it just my imagination or are you really slowing down on the number of posts you make? )

Yeah I kinda slowed down a lot.  I just don't have much to say.  I am more reflecting of some of the banter that has been going on.  Plus the fewer times I open my mouth the less likely my foot with get stuck in it..[]

And now back to the topic at hand.

[lyn92]

Could you explain how to go about shielding and Buffering? Can you recommend any books? It seems I am always in a state of receiving and transmitting and I really need to know how to close off.

I don't know how the telepathy started and really wished it hadn't but it seems I am able to hear most peoples thoughts if they concern me and I know once I have heard their thoughts like "is this real can I really hear this person?" and if I make a comment in my mind then it seems I am always tranfering thoughts to these same people which is not good.

thanks for the help. lyn92

[kakkarot]

well, lyn, here's a great thread that happened a long time ago, and it talk a lot about shielding.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1772

(or http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1772&SearchTerms=shield if you want the word "shield" hilighted whereever it is used)

and the buffering is like shielding, but more in the way of slowing energy/thoughts/emotions/etc down or making them loose some of their strength before they "hit" you.

~kakkarot [|)]

[Sn0wball]

cainam_nazier....it is happening the same to me. I usually practice an hour long meditation before I go to sleep and I hear a lot of voices and thoughts. Sometimes I get some thoughts which I'm sure they're not mine or even conversations and sometimes I actually hear like somebody is whispering in my ear. Once I listened an italian fairy tale (I'm not italian,I just live near the border) But anyway, I don't know where these voices come from and niether what's their meaning.

I got a sensation that I've been telephating with a woman but she is at least 15-years older so I can't ask her [V] Because maybe it was just my imagination...

Can you tell me a little more about these things?

[cainam_nazier]

Voices in the dark, conversations of the mind, and the often whispered name.

I would first suggest working on sepereating them out.  This will help in blocking out the ones you don't want to hear.  The most destracting one is when others are thinking of you.  For me this is what causes my name to be heard.

The meaning of the voices differ from voice to voice, and then for the most part there is no meaning.  I'll rephrase.  Not all the voices you hear are meant to be important.  Thier meaning is the same as listening to two people talking in the street.  Unless thier conversation has something to do with you then there is likely very little useful information in it.  After all you are just listening to them talk.

The only voices I consider important are the ones directed at you.  These ones could be people trying to reach you or are thinking of you.  Or it could also be you sub-c trying to talk to you.  Again you need to work on sorting them out.  Your sub-c is most likely trying to give you information, after all it has your best interest in mind.  

The ones that are thinking of you should be easy to sort.  These should sound familiar, like the voices of friends.  For me at least peoples thoughts sound the same as thier spoken voice.  There is no hidden agenda so there is no need to hide what they sound like.

Thse trying to contact you could be from several different sources.  The first being people you know.  Functions the same as above.  Then there are those who are just exploring.  Open minds seeing who else is out there.  Then there are the ones you don't want to contact.  DO NOT listen to any voices that change in pitch and tone.  Thier voice is being hidden, masked, you simply can not tell who or what it is or the purpose.  DON'T LISTEN, I can't make it any simpler.

Now this woman.  Sounds like you know her?  How well do you know her?  Do you think she might get freaked if you did ask?  Does it happen often?  Or was it a one time deal?

If it was a one time deal then just never mind.  Its not worth confirming, unless the information gleened was profoundly important.  Personal safety, ect.  If it happens often and you know her name I would suggest doing this.  The next time it happens ask her what she wants.  Let her look through the door into you mind if she would allow you to do the same.  This will help form a more solid connection.  Then you will know how to proceed.  Trust me on that one.

P.S.   And just what makes the circumstance a difficult one with this woman?  So she's older, so what.  I believe I know what the deal is but I will not say it here.  I await your responce before proceeding.

[warlockyoshi]

You don't have to meditate to have insightfull dreams though.  I've noticed that if i work out until i am exhausted i have insightful dreams.  If you workout until you pass out they become very wierd.  But I share thgoughts with my dog all of the time.  He is actually very intellegent.

[Sn0wball]

yes, it's true, my friends thoughts sounds the same as their voices

about that woman...she teaches maths on the school I've been going, but she's not my teacher.(I'm 18 and she's around 35 years old I think) It's been more than once that I had the sensation we were telephating and I got a proof when I once heard her coughing and then she didn't come at school that week. So I presumed she was ill.

unfortunately, when I pay attention to those voices, I don't hear them anymore. And when I'm stoned I hear them more:) Once when I was on amphetamins and I smoked some weed I had some real flashes, I thought about a guy I once chatted with on IRC ,I heard some words and then I closed my eyes and saw a man's face and felt a lot of strange sensations I can't describe.

sorry if I'm too short in words but my english is not soo good and rather to make mistakes I write less

[cainam_nazier]

YOu hear more after smoking because you are more relaxed, more open.  But on the flip side it could make it harder for you to defend yourself if need be.

I figured there was that kind of relation with this woman.  There is something else though.  I'll PM you.

I have found that it is easier not so much to focus on a single voice but rather not to.  Just work on blocking out what you don't want to hear and sso the only thing remaining are the ones you want to.  Then you just relax and absorbe.  

This has worked better for me than activly trying to probe.  I don't know exactly what it is but there seems to be some kind of block there for me.  It seems much easier to just block what I don't want then to try and focus on one voice.  I have the same problem when trying to focus on one voice, I tend to loose it.  It may have some thing to do with trying to force the connection.

And don't worry about your English.  There are some here who can't get it correct either and its thier native lanuage.  Although I do try and follow a certain saying.  "The fewer times you open your mouth the less likely your foot will get stuck in it."

[Risu no Kairu]

OK, so, then, when you "hear" someone else's thoughts, it's in their voice, not yours?

Because I've wondered about telepathy and how the other person's thoughts were recieved, whether it be in your mind's voice, or in theirs.

[cainam_nazier]

Yes, It's thier thoughts not yours.  So its in thier voice.

Well at least that is how it is for me, and most other people I have talked to.  But there is always the possability of variation.

[TheSeeker]

A few times when I've been dead tired, and I'm trying to sleep, I hear lots of voices in my head, random voices, random words.  Is it possible I'm picking up on neighbors and such?  Or am I just tired and my mind is going goofy?

[Risu no Kairu]

cainam, you said you went into your own mind a then figured out things.

Can you do things other than telepathy? Can you move things with your mind or anything else?

[cainam_nazier]

TheSeeker

I used to think I was going crazy too.  There is always that little part of you that thinks that.  In reality it's your sanity talking.  As best I figure, as long as you still have the capacity to ask the question the answer is probably no.....probably.  But if you give it enough time you will eventually be able to tell the differance between what is your thoughts, some elses (like a neighbor), and what is filtering in from the astral.  To me anyhow they each have a slightly different feel to them.

Risu no Kairu

Unfourtunatly no.  I really don't have a full mastery of telepathy either, these are just things I have experienced thus far.  I can however feel other abilities in there, I just can't get to them yet. Perhaps I need a little more development before I am ready to deal with them.  

To be honest though I have tried off and on with telekinesis, mostly the pin wheel trick.  But I can not garentee that the minor success  I have had was not due to the "wind factor".  But I would lean towards no positive results.  I have also tried other things like making psi balls, tapping people on the shoulder from accross the room, or even just imprinting an image on some one to get them to do some thing like turn around.  But again no success.  

So far it seems that I am only a reciever.  But I am working on things.

[Mirador]

I just came back from the park, where I had taken my young children to skate and ride bicycle. While I sat on a bench, I noticed a young boy cowering and whimpering behind a tree. Time passed, and the child was still cowering and whimpering. He was quite a way from my bench, maybe fifty meters, so I fixed my gaze on him to catch his attention. When he turned his head toward me, I made a gesture with my hand encouraging him to come forward. He stood up, very surprised, and I insisted calling him with my gesture. He walked over, and I asked him why he was crying. The child was very upset, and unwilling to talk to me. I noticed he was almost dispondent, his eyes seemed to gaze in different directions. So i distracted him with what I had at hand, which was my Sony Mavika digital camera. I took a quick picture of him and showed him his image, while I applied a maneuver I use to 'hear peoples' thoughts'. It's difficult to explain, but sometines it involves asking a series of questions in a rhythmic and intense manner. This provokes an increase in 'volume' of my subjects thoughts, enough that I can hear. I them pointed to the tree and asked the child where did he see it, he pointed upwards. I asked him what did he see there, and then he said his mother told him that the ground below would melt and that he should not talk about it because people will think his mother was crazy. At that moment, my wife sat next to me on the bench, and I made her part of the situation. So we made a very farcical production about how we would never tell his mother. The boy didn't buy it, he was adamant about explaining the nature of his fright. Then I heard his thoughts, he was angry because he wanted to climb up a path that lead to the sky but his mother didn't let him. So I asked him if there were people on that path. He answered affirmative. I asked him if the people on the path were sad or happy. He said happy. I asked him if they were dressed in white. He answered affirmative. At that moment his younger brother came over and I took several pictures of them along with my children. They were delighted, and the child's mood completely changed. So I asked the child to walk us over to his mother. I found her on a far bench facing away. I showed her the pictures of her sons and she was delighted, and then I asked the child if he knew how to sing because I would make a one minute clip with the camera. For the full one minute he sang a church hymn with a most angelic voice. I took another clip of the younger brother, who also sang a beautiful hymn. I gave both diskettes to the mother, and asked her what church they belonged. She answered, the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Mirador

[lyn92]

how does one turn it on or turn it off? There seems to be a female that interjects words into my mind and I in turn project these thoughts to other people.

lyn92