"Eternal Now" Reincarnation

[WalkerInTheWoods]

I have only read RB's article once so maybe I did not get all of it but this is how I understood it. Basicly there is one "God" or "consciousness" or "spirit", I do not remember what Bruce called it. But at the highest level there is just oneness of all minds, just one. From there we all descend down until we are individuals with individual thoughts. We carnate on the physical and live our lives then move back through the levels back to the oneness. So really we are all one. We are all reincarnations of each other, or rather of the one. At the highest level, there is no time. But this one has carnated throughout time, so has really experienced everything already. But to us, being on the physical plane inside time we can only see linearly.

From the article I see it as saying that both thoughts are correct. We do stay in the afterlife, yet we are reincarnated as well because we are all one. In a way linear reincarnation is easier to understand, but it is not entirely true and it not good for those that seek to understand the truth. If what Bruce wrote is the truth.

[waterfall]

Hi Joe,
I have only read RB's article once too so I'm a little limited but I can understand what youare saying and have felt the same way in trying to digest the information/explainations of reincarnation.
I do believe in the concept of an oversoul as explained by Seth. I have experienced the knowing of all lives happening at once. After meeting a future self. When I think about all things happening at once the word chaos comes to mind and my brain hurts *grin*
Did he cover about going to upper planes or dimensions and reincarnating on other planets or other dimensions? I know this to be true. We're not cemented here in earthly form and at some point we can go off and explore other cultures.
As  far as spirits coming through for mediums they come back as a form that the questioner would recognise them. It's no good to come back in a previous reincarnation or  their prefrered spiritual form if the questioner doesn't know who they are.
We can only get a glimpse of what happens in the great scope of things. We're also at a disadvantage because we're in this human form and don't have all of the faculties that we would in spirit to greater understandings. Hopefully it will all make sense on the other side...lol:)
namaste
waterfall

[Joe]

I just wanted to see if anyone else thought there was something missing with this understanding of reincarnation (RB's and Rawn's idea of multiple simultaneous incarnations, all happening right now, etc).

I don't see how multiple simultaneous incarnations (Eternal Now) is any better or more accurate than the allegedly "simplified" model of linear reincarnation... The point raised by RB's theory is that all incarnations are happening at once, not one after another, from the point of view of the very high realms where the Eternal Now shows everything happening at once. I can see how the Higher Self might perceive this, but the point is that the entity that's reincarnating (ie, me) doesn't see it that way. The incarnated entity sees past, present and future - to say that all time exists in the present moment is of no more value to the incarnated entity than saying that Earth's entire surface is visible from space, ie. the person walking on the ground only sees what's in front and what's behind. To that entity, their incarnations appear to be in the past/present/future, so a linear model is entirely accurate for practical purposes. Is it possible for someone to have recollection of their future lives? I haven't heard of it. And no-one seems to have recollection of their other presently-incarnated personalities right now. So while we are incarnating, we experience it in relative time. Maybe the linear model *is* the most accurate way to understand reincarnation from the human (and practical) perspective.

The other thing is that if linear incarnation wasn't true, what happens when a person dies and ascends through the afterlife planes? Do they then reincarnate or not? If they do, then presumably they do it more than once - it looks and smells like linear reincarnation and *is* linear reincarnation. If they don't, do they just finish up in the higher realms? That would satisfy every definition of religious Heaven out there. In that case, it doesn't matter whether other parallel incarnations also happen, since the entity itself only perceives the life/death/permanent afterlife experience, ie religious "Heaven". It looks even more convincing when medium communication is considered, since talking with deceased spirits should be impossible in many cases if they reincarnated and became babies once again. You never hear of that happening, only that Aunt Gladice who died 25 years ago keeps coming through.

So spirits either reincarnate or they don't, in which case either "linear reincarnation" or "heavenly afterlife" seem to be the outcomes...which makes "multiple simultaneous incarnations" a good theory from the Higher Self's perspective, but of no practical relevance to how reality is perceived from the incarnating entity's point of view, and isn't that what matters...

I don't mean to be argumentative (it's the lack of sleep talking http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_dead.gif" border=0>) but it doesn't seem to add up, and calling other theories "oversimplified" may be the biggest contradiction yet, given that they may reflect the reality of incarnated existence.