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Blackstream

I'd ask a few questions about my state of being (such as my affinity towards dragons and possible soul-link to them (or holding one "inside" me like the chimera)), but I think Micheal has already made it clear that he can't detect me based off of just the words I say.  So... failing that... hmm

For either SD or Micheal #1) I'm trying to improve myself to some degree.  I'm trying to learn things like telekinese so I figured that I'd take up NEW and try and get good at it.  Is this enough to get strong energies and be able to use them well, or do I need to take up a martial art as well, and if so what do you suggest.

#2) Is there any truth at all to what Oazaki is saying.  I.e., meteors coming within a month or two, transition to 4d, astral veil falling, and civil war in the us springing up.

#3) Are there timeless realities and how do they work (or is it possible to comprehend them?)

#4) Do "master-numbers" like 11:11 and $3.33 and the such mean anything, or is the number contrived in my head and actually made up?
There is no spoon

SpectralDragon

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Originally posted by Blackstream

I'd ask a few questions about my state of being (such as my affinity towards dragons and possible soul-link to them (or holding one "inside" me like the chimera)), but I think Micheal has already made it clear that he can't detect me based off of just the words I say.  So... failing that... hmm



As said before this is a higher aspect of micheal so I would suggest you give it a try. Can't hurt all he can say is "no" after all.

Taalnar

Hi SD, I've got a couple of questions. [:)]

Question 1 Can you please describe what base chaos is exactly?  Does base chaos have physicality as I would know it or can it only be known at an abstract level.

Question 2 What differentiates base chaos from what we see?  Does it still surround us like it is around me right now?

Question 3 How do energy exercises work exactly?  I mean, how does breathing or mentally sucking up energy through the feet actually effect energy.  Wouldn't there still be the same amount and quantity of energy going around and through us if we were doing the same things/actions but without thinking about energy?

Blackstream

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Originally posted by SpectralDragon

QuoteAs said before this is a higher aspect of micheal so I would suggest you give it a try. Can't hurt all he can say is "no" after all.



Alright[8D]  Add this question then.

Ever since I was a kid, I've been a tad bit obsessed with dragons.  My nickname for example, Blackstream, is the name of a dragon I made up a long time ago.  I didn't really think much of it, but someone once told me that Blackstream is the name of an actual existing dragon out there somewhere, so I'm kind of curious as to whether or not I have any relation to dragons at all (i.e., I am actually one, I have one "inside" me, I'm linked to them, I was one in a past life, or whatever).
There is no spoon

Anonymous

SD would you please ask michael about his reference to his own sons and daughters on this planet.  How would we recognise them from other beings and does he monitor their  growth and what are they doing here ?

SpectralDragon

MEDIATION IN PROGRESS

SD: #1: Is the "mars face" really a face, or is it an interaction between light and shadow (an illusion of a face).
M: What the face is is a combination of what a previous race on the planet did along with interaction of light. The race put it there in order for mankind to know there is more to the universe than thier own planet. The race is actually a died out race, and further inspection will find that there are traces of this race on the planet, though very small and insignificant traces other than the fact there was a race there.

SD: #2: Will something big happen in/until 2012? A lot of people believe that something significant will happen.
M: The future is never written in stone, however something big might happen, and it has to do with a discovery that might happen.

SD: #3: Are there any kind of conflicts/wars in higher "realms" of existance?

#4: If #3 is true

1. How are they actually fought?

2. What are the reasons for conflicts/wars in higher "realms"? Here on earth, natural resources (i.e. oil) are often the trigger. Is there something similar in higher "realms"?
M: Yes, there are "fights and wars," and the way they are fought is usually with the mind and much more of the soul than humankind do so in some cases, though it depends on the context and the level of the "war." Usually the reason for these is a conflict in the same interest, as it is in earth, to varying degrees. One of the biggest ones would be good and evil, as one or the other always tries to have the biggest say in what goes on in the universe.

SD: 1) If you have a part of a fractal, is it possible to calculate
or know the whole of it (derrive the equation from the part)?
M: yes it is.

SD: 2) Is this universe's structure fractalic?
M: some of it us though most of it is more chaotic than thinking of it in terms of fractiles. The universe is still growing and as such things tend to change a bit.

SD: 3) Do fractals extend to even more than this universe?
M: The idea of fractals does yes.

SD: 4) If they do extend more, is everything fractalic or are there realms/things that are beyond this?
M: there are realms and things in which it is impossible for the human mind to comprehend because there is no refference to it at all in this universe or on earth.

SD: What is a fractal?
M: it is an ideal that the whole is known, and is a way of classifying things in the universe. Basically a fractil is a scientific approach to the unknown.

SD: 5) Do the mathematical definition of dimensions (X,Y,Z,A,B,C...axises are 90 degrees to each other) apply to the different dimensions
in existence? For example: If I understand how the mathematical 4th
and 5th dimension function, do I understand the structure of the
'real' realms in the 4th and 5th dimension?
M: using math in higher dimmensions does not really work that well as they are more fluid than the "3rd dimmension."

SD: 6) If we are created in God's image, does that mean that
we are fractalic parts of his Being, reflecting it?
M: not really, you are you, and god is god. What happens a lot is a being will come from base chaos, and have nothing to do with god in base chaos, but since it is now part of the universe it is part of god, so you don't reflect god but you are part of him.

SD: 1.) The qigong exercises SD recommended seem to be very effective for raising energy, but they're so subtle that I can't understand why they work. What is it about an action such as "Carrying the Moon" that raises energy?
M: It's mostly the focus that is working, and the movement creates subtle suggestions in the mind that cause energy to move.

SD: 2.) Electric and magnetic lines flow at right angles to each other. Do time lines have an analog that flows at right angles to it? (Perhaps gravity?) If time acts like a field, would it be possible to create a 'time transformer' and step time frequencies up or down like we do with electricity?
M: yes, though time works in waves more so than in fields.

SD: 3.) Can you give us some hints about creating time to lengthen projections? Is the process similar in any way to working with a mass of taffy?
M: in the astral, time is very fluid. So it's more so like working with water. Slow the water down, and you change it's length in time. The trick is to grasp what time actually feels like when you are controlling it. It would help to try to project back in time in an OBE and then see how it feels different than a regular OBE.

SD: 4.) Would you characterize the pole shift as not so much good versus evil as immature versus mature, or with more detail: people seeking security and hoping someone else will save them, versus people seeking freedom and willing to take personal responsibility for that freedom?
M: that is a very small aspect of what might go on in humanity during the pole shift. The pole shift is something that makes humanity more fluid in it's thinking. It is a difficult thing to sum up easily.

SD: 5.) Right now if we get good enough at projecting we can travel to other universes, talk with trees, do all sorts of great stuff. Once we die can we still do all that or do we have to incarnate again?
M: there are souls who do that after they die, if you have enough will to do so then you will. But there are other interesting things after you die like the 8th plane of existance, as you might think of it. The 8th is more or less where one of the highest aspects of a soul resides in a "suspended" type of state.

SD: 6.) When we project do we use up our enegy by creating the body double? If so is there a way to recover and recycle that energy perhaps by sending energy to our physical body while out, or by laying down in the physical body to reabsorb it energy when the projection is done?
M: yes you use up energy when you project, not only through the body double but from the transfer, the line that keeps you tied to the physical, and so on. Usually some sleep will recover this energy.

SD: 7.) What's your opinion on Stuart Wilde? For instance, is he truthful in relating his spiritual experiences? Here's a web site for atmosphere:
M: This one is knowledgeable and skilled, however he refferences things in a way that is his own, so read but keep in mind his views will seem to difer because of the way he does things. Take much thought about these things, and remember everyone makes mistakes as this one likely has in his articles.

SD: 8.) How accurate is Robert Monroes' description of the afterlife consisting on various Hells made according to the occupant's belief systems, and a common 'Park' type of environment for people who are balanced enough to avoid the hells?
M: extremely accurate. Robert Monroe was a guy who liked to make sure of what he wrote in those books as being true.

SD: 9.)
How accurate is the following:

At http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1647&whichpage=2
Gandalf writes:

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Concerning the vibrations, it is now my opinion that the vibrations are in fact 'always on' but we are not aware of them. When we shift our point of awareness we slowly become aware of them, they feel more powerful as we focus on them.
I think this is what is happening with 'energy raising' techniques; there actually isnt any 'energy raising' going on as its always there anyway. Instead the techniques are designed to make you more aware of them.
M: partially true, though there is energy raising going on.
(SD: please note that the pulse was acting wierd at this point so couldn't click the link)

SD: What is your definition of "Angel?"
M: "Angel" is white lodge and devout to helping, even at the cost of self. Also "angels" are very close to a belief system of (more so atmosphere here but to get the atmosphere in words would be "everything get's a chance for love and happiness")(RNK Please do # your questions, what happens is I look for the #'s when I mediate and skip everything else)

SD: Aside from mankind, what is the most spiritualy evolved animal on Earth? Who is next in line?
M: as a collective that would be dolphins.

SD: Spectral Dragon said he gets drained. Does the drain on him (you) get less severe after each mediation? About the same? Worse?
M: This drain occurs because he is next to a field of energy about 50 times as powerfull as his own. He grows more adaptable to it over time. This can be considered a type of "training" for him.

SD: What is the difference between "out of body" experiences and remote viewing?
M: when remote viewing you are using extra senses(extra sensory) to look further than you could before. In what might be considered "true" remote viewing the only thing that goes "out of body" are your senses and part of your awareness. Going out of body is more of a complete going out of body.

SD: What's the easiest way to trigger an "out of body" experience? What's the safest way?
M: Everyone is different in this regard because thier body is different, they think differently, and they all have individual experiences that hinder or help them do so. There is no single easiest way to do this, though there is a "safest" way. When projecting you should be in an environment where you feel comfortable, in a positive sense and light. The atmosphere around you should be very good and clean when you project.

SD: What is "kundalini?" Why is it dangerous? Anything else experience kundalini? Like aliens, or frogs, or trees or anything?
M: Kundalini is a raising of the energy levels of the body through what might be considered more extreme means. If too much energy gets put into the system it can "overload," though it will recover from time. There are many animals that can do this, such as dolphins though they are mostly unconcerned with such.

SD: Any tips for looking into the past and recalling memories of a previous life?
M: whenever you see something that seems oddly familair interact with it and try to let yourself open to your higher self. Try to become "more you" when you do this. Surround yourself with things that seem familair but you don't know why.

SD: Is it possible for an astral being to get pregnent and if so, if a physical person were projecting could they get an astral being pregnent?
M: yes it is possible, though the occurance does not happen in the way it happens in the physical. "pregnancy" is not the same, more so that two souls bring another soul into being from base chaos.

SD: When we die, can we just stay in the astral and do whatever we want and never want to reincarnate again or move to a higher plane?
M: the conscious cannot decide this, the higher self does, though the higher self is aiming for gratification.

SD: Sentential I think I will get to those later.. and privately.

SD: 1) You said some minor telekinesis is quiet easily done by a human being, does this mean that all human beings have the potential to learn to levitate throughout a lifetimes practice? Or is this not for everyone.
M: levitation requires quite a bit more than psychokenesis. But over about 5 lifetimes most can accomplish it, and the rest will need more.

SD: 2) I've entered the so called vibrational state 3 times this month(for the record, first time to scared, second time happily projected, third time conciously held myself in) , just out off sudden in the middle of the night. How do you suppose that happens, just a side effect of energy raising? [SD if you know the answer yourself no need to bother michael with it ;)
M: What happens is, in the middle of the night, you are dreaming. Since a major concern is your projection you are trying to do so even in sleep, thus you are raising your energy in your sleep even unconsciously. This trend will continue till you reach what you might think of as a "barrier to training"

SD: 3) Can one raise energy into another human, just by directing my energy towards that person, like I'd do when moving an object?
SD: yes, you should try reiki or Qigong type energy training.
M: Do not try telekinisis on the small level on a human as you could move a small part in them which is vital to them, such as the heart. Smooth positive energy mixed with warm feelings causes a healing effect you can try.

SD: Hi SD, I posted a thread about a friend of mine who's been having recurring dreams (atleast somewhat recurring, if that makes sense). Van-Stolin recommended that I ask you to ask about it. I would really appreciate it if you got to it sometime, I think it's great that you're doing this for us

Dreams:
1. He was in a Medieval army of some sort and was fighting against an Asian army. No matter what his side did, the Asians wouldn't die.
M: More detail of this person is needed, however the dream symbolizes that part of the beliefs of something you are going against will never die and are actually good.

SD: 2. He was fighting against some army and seemed invincible. He killed and killed but could not be killed. Out of no where an old woman came on to the battlefield with a somewhat crude firearm. Both armies stopped and cleared a path for the old woman. She shot the firearm, showing them how to use it.
M: The same goes for you with the other side, but sometimes it takes a mediary to get undurstanding, even at the smallest level (as with a friend you might have trouble with, and more importantly a friend having trouble with another friend) to start. You are more so the old woman in this.

SD: 3/4.(He had this one twice in the same night) He was a knight in medieval times (again, hehe), and they were signing a treaty with another army/kingdom. Someone came over to where they were and told them the queen (he thinks it was the queen. it was atleast someone very important) was unable to be found. When they looked around, they found her hung from a tree. Everybody drew their weapons and attacked the other army.
M: things can happen in a flash and no understanding can be reached. Understanding does not start, and understanding can be blocked by emotions and say-so and assumption. Another thing that happens is you turn around, see the real perpetrator, but the army is not noticing because their emotions are blocking thier judgement. When the dream reccurs you should do this soon.

SD: #1) I'm trying to improve myself to some degree. I'm trying to learn things like telekinese so I figured that I'd take up NEW and try and get good at it. Is this enough to get strong energies and be able to use them well, or do I need to take up a martial art as well, and if so what do you suggest.
M: Robert Bruce's NEW is a very good start for you, and you should do some kind of physical exercise to keep the body up as well, what it is does not matter so long as the body stays strong and healthy.

SD:#2) Is there any truth at all to what Oazaki is saying. I.e., meteors coming within a month or two, transition to 4d, astral veil falling, and civil war in the us springing up.
M: some judgement on accuracy on past "views" by this one will show the truth of such.

SD: #3) Are there timeless realities and how do they work (or is it possible to comprehend them?)
M: Yes there are somewhat "timeless" realities, but it's more so time doesn't work the same way or is so different it can't be called "time"

SD: #4) Do "master-numbers" like 11:11 and $3.33 and the such mean anything, or is the number contrived in my head and actually made up?
M: something in yourself is speaking out to you to make you notice this. Try and find what in you is doing this. (usually a guide talking through your perception--SD)

SD: Question 1 Can you please describe what base chaos is exactly? Does base chaos have physicality as I would know it or can it only be known at an abstract level.
M: If you can project, then project yourself small, down to where atoms seem like planets. When you come back you won't remember a darn thing except maybe it was wierd or incredible. That's base chaos. It is where we came from in climbing the "spiritual ladder."
Also, base chaos can be thought of as the universes inside of the universe you live in. There are an infinite number of them.
(My head hurts... from the second part of what he said...)

SD:  Question 2 What differentiates base chaos from what we see? Does it still surround us like it is around me right now?
M: yes it is all around you, but it doesn't comepletely define you.

SD: Question 3 How do energy exercises work exactly? I mean, how does breathing or mentally sucking up energy through the feet actually effect energy. Wouldn't there still be the same amount and quantity of energy going around and through us if we were doing the same things/actions but without thinking about energy?
M: no, thought and energy go together, for you affect the etheric with thought. As for energy such as Qi you are in a special kind of trance, gathering more than you do in normal exercise. normal excercise will build up energy too, but not in the same way or as fast.

SD: Ever since I was a kid, I've been a tad bit obsessed with dragons. My nickname for example, Blackstream, is the name of a dragon I made up a long time ago. I didn't really think much of it, but someone once told me that Blackstream is the name of an actual existing dragon out there somewhere, so I'm kind of curious as to whether or not I have any relation to dragons at all (i.e., I am actually one, I have one "inside" me, I'm linked to them, I was one in a past life, or whatever).
M: "Blackstream" is the name of a star dragon that is the soul of a whole galaxy. :) You are a dragon, and have a dragon guide as well as a pheonix guide.

SD: SD would you please ask michael about his reference to his own sons and daughters on this planet. How would we recognise them from other beings and does he monitor their growth and what are they doing here ?
M: Fire is my child, so anyone with an attribute strongly to fire would be my "son" I do pay attention to them, but I also pay attention to everyone when I can.

Blackstream

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Originally posted by SpectralDragon

SD: Ever since I was a kid, I've been a tad bit obsessed with dragons. My nickname for example, Blackstream, is the name of a dragon I made up a long time ago. I didn't really think much of it, but someone once told me that Blackstream is the name of an actual existing dragon out there somewhere, so I'm kind of curious as to whether or not I have any relation to dragons at all (i.e., I am actually one, I have one "inside" me, I'm linked to them, I was one in a past life, or whatever).
M: "Blackstream" is the name of a star dragon that is the soul of a whole galaxy. :) You are a dragon, and have a dragon guide as well as a pheonix guide.


[:O]  Damn, I wanna meet said guides, lol.  So Michael was able to figure out who I was from just them words huh after all?

Well, I'm sure being a part of an archangel, he'd have his ways, lol.  Anyways, a few more questions for when you got time (you got a lot)

#1) You said I am a dragon.  This is enough to be rather cool, but what does this mean?  Since obviously physically I am human, it's all in the soul.  Since I don't really know what's fact and what's fiction about dragons, I'm curious about that they are... what they can do.... and if I'm suddenly gunna sprout wings come the astral shift lol.  Btw, I'm guessing SD might also be one of these so you can just tell me yourself via pm if you know this.

#2) I'm also somewhat curious (this would be the annoying little voice in the back of my head talking here, stupid voice) how you managed to find me on my post since earlier you said you couldn't find me through another person.  Was my mention of the word Blackstream enough, or was there more to it than that?  Don't have to answer this one, I'm just curious.

Thanks!
There is no spoon

SoulDragon

I always loved dragons too. It would be interesting to see what kind of guardian I had, if it's no trouble. I have always loved dragons and also strange things like white ravens. I am the smart kid(damn nobody likes the smart kid), and I'm also known as a weirdo.If music has anything to do with it I like punk.[xx(]blink-182[xx(]

Nobody likes the smart kid...[:(]
Quote the raven, "Never more"

Van-Stolin

I like the smart kid[:D]Don't let yourself get depressed over what people say, they don't know you so you should take it with a grain of sand.

Anyway.  Thank you for your reply SD and Micheal.  Funny, now that you say it, most of the stuff that I think of to ask, I look at it and I already know it just by reflecting on it.  I will try to think of something that I don't know of.  Again thank you.

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Sentential

Im gonna keep it simple seeing that my last conversation with you SD has brought me alot of peace.

However Ive got a few more questions.

#1 You said my abilities were picked up from a past life...can I get any specifics?

#2 You said my ability causes a massive karma backlash, which is what I was experiencing as a kid. Was it that the negs both wanted me and I was also undergoin a karma backlash? Backlash in the sense of why I felt my guide(s) abaonden me that night I was possessed?

#3 Its been difficult to "let go" of what I know. Its not indulgent in that respect, but rather I cannot really control it now. Its become as natural as blinking. However SD said that I could change its focus, rather than supressing it. What are your thoughts? I am interested in the healing arts, but it seems awefully passive and inefficient. Can what I know of the forbidden arts boost my healing ability, while keeping my karma clean?

#4 What do you suggest to clense my karma? Ive got alot I have to sift through, especially of years of using my ablity.

Varistentia

First I wish to say that I feel the mediation of Michael rings true. Second I have a question:

When I was around 2 I had several very special experiences, It felt as if someone tried to enter my very being. It was like sleep paralysis with the difference that this happened in broad daylight with me awake, and it could happen at any time: walking, sitting eating etc. My brain could not understand the energy so I began to say really weird stuff like "There is hair on my hands". I remember thinking "why do I say that since I don´t see any hair on my hands". Naturaly my parents were terrified and so after a while I had to make a EEG but it turned out ok and after that it stopped. I get the feeling that it was either my over soul or a powerful entity that wanted to contact me in some way for good or evil. If Michael could shed some light on this experience I would be very grateful.

mactombs

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SD: #1: Is the "mars face" really a face, or is it an interaction between light and shadow (an illusion of a face).
M: What the face is is a combination of what a previous race on the planet did along with interaction of light. The race put it there in order for mankind to know there is more to the universe than thier own planet. The race is actually a died out race, and further inspection will find that there are traces of this race on the planet, though very small and insignificant traces other than the fact there was a race there.


Has anyone ever seen photos of the area on Mars besides the "face" photo? In every other photo besides that one, it looks nothing like a face. If I went outside and looked at the mountainside, I could probably pick out at least a dozen "faces" in the rocks in this particular sunlight.

If we all had a telescope without the atmosphere blurring the atmosphere and a strong enough lense, I bet more often than not we'd never see a face in that area, but plenty in one area or another at different times and places. Probably the same if we looked at the moon.
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cube

1.) Is there any truth to the idea that when we die we undergo a life review?


2.) Bruce Moen talks about spirits entering Earth again looking like curls or shrimp. A lot of ancient symbology centers around serpent archetypes, were these symbols more related to the curl-shape of a soul than actual serpentine beings? Here's an atmosphere page:
http://www.efterlivet.dk/moen/reentry.html


3.) Would it be possible for the people at the Global Consciousness project to use their EGGs to measure or verify the locations of the Earth's chakras?


4.) What's the deal with the guard bars in a UPC symbol that look like 666? Is it a joke, or a coincidence or is there actually something Biblically sinister behind it? Perhaps the UPC designers had no Beastly intentions but whoever wrote that bit of the Bible was looking into the future and saw that the code was associated with the negative side of the pole shift and so reported the numbers which always appear in it as being linked to evil?


5.) Ruth Drown was a doctor who claimed to be able to take pictures inside people's bodies using what she called Radio-Vision. Was that a hoax? If not, was she inadvertently using some sort of magic or contacting spirits in order to do it? Here's a web site for atmosphere:
http://educate-yourself.org/tjc/ruthdrownuntoldstory.shtml


6.) "Ka'ba" means "cube" in arabic and the giant Metatronic cube where Muslims worship is called the Kaaba. The Hebrew Kabbalah mentions Metatron, and it centers around a cube-like Tree of Life. You said "Allah" is another name for Metatron, so "Kabbalah" could be broken into "Kaba"-"Allah" and mean "Cube"-"Metatron" or perhaps "Cube"-"God". Is this thinking accurate and also did Metatron create both religions and originally intend them to be the same thing?


7.) Winged Discs show up all over the world in ancient stone carvings. What is the root concept being portrayed, does it mean 'Archangel'? Here's a page for atmosphere:
http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/185wingeddiscs.html


8.) Would you say that the Kabbalah's Tree of Life is an accurate model of the universe? Would it be an accurate model for any or even most other universes?


9.) You said: "The future is never written in stone, however something big might happen, and it has to do with a discovery that might happen."
Does the discovery have to do with the great pyramid or the Sphynx?


10.) Regarding projecting after death you replied: "there are souls who do that after they die, if you have enough will to do so then you will."
What would we have to overcome to be able to project? Is is a lot more difficult than doing it while alive? I would have expected it to be a simpler thing.


11.) If the RTZ is made up of humanity's collective interpretation of things, how is it possible for remote viewers to access things that no human has ever seen such as when Ingo Swann remote viewed the inside of Jupiter's atmosphere?


12.) What created base chaos?


13.) SD has a dragon avatar, do you have an avatar? If so what is it and why did you choose it, if not why not?


14.) Is there any truth to the idea of the aura going from red to blue to purple as the soul ages?


15.) Do the auric colors a soul has while incarnated on Earth have any relation to the colors they have after they've gone back to the higher realms?


16.) Can beings be created directly in the higher realms or does everything have to work its way up through the physical, then astral, etc? For instance, would it be possible to create an archangel from nothing or perhaps by combining attributes from existing archangels?


17.) How accurate is this line of thinking:
If you have a set, let's say the numbers {1, 2, 3}.

From that set you can create another set where the elements are sets created by making combinations of numbers such as:

{
 {1, 2},
 {2, 3},
 {3, 1}
}

That means that from any set you can create an infinite number of other sets, all unique.

If we apply this to the idea of higher spiritual realms and make an analogy that a number is a realm, then from any set of realms we can create an infinite number of higher and higher realms.

Therefore there is no limit to how far 'up' in the spiritual planes we can go, and if we ever reach the highest current realm we can just create ones higher than it and keep going.
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Originally posted by mactombs

quote:
SD: #1: Is the "mars face" really a face, or is it an interaction between light and shadow (an illusion of a face).
M: What the face is is a combination of what a previous race on the planet did along with interaction of light. The race put it there in order for mankind to know there is more to the universe than thier own planet. The race is actually a died out race, and further inspection will find that there are traces of this race on the planet, though very small and insignificant traces other than the fact there was a race there.


Has anyone ever seen photos of the area on Mars besides the "face" photo? In every other photo besides that one, it looks nothing like a face. If I went outside and looked at the mountainside, I could probably pick out at least a dozen "faces" in the rocks in this particular sunlight.

If we all had a telescope without the atmosphere blurring the atmosphere and a strong enough lense, I bet more often than not we'd never see a face in that area, but plenty in one area or another at different times and places. Probably the same if we looked at the moon.



Personally I think it's an illusion of a face. Newer images of that region support that assumption.

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Veccolo

Now that's a good, detailed picture. Thank you.
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LordoftheBunnies

I dunno, I think it looks like it could have once been a face, just that it got worn away by time.  Something about it still doesn't seem totally natural. Its hard to tell either way though.

Mystic Cloud

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Originally posted by runlola




evidence of life on mars:

http://rsd.gsfc.nasa.gov/marslife/marslif6.htm



Actually it wasn't evidence of life on mars since they came
up with a method of some chemical reactions that happens on Mars/Space
that makes bacteria looking 'nanotubes'. I'm sure you can
find on google more about this.

But I find it true that there has been life on Mars anyway.
It has all the right properties for it, so why not? [:D]
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mactombs

Here's a link from a different thread by oreo: http://www.kundalini-teacher.com/guidance/testgui.html

I know it's been said before, but it seems to me that this arch angel's nature is more parasitic than anything. Always beware the easy answers. It gives answers only detailed enough to assure more questions, uses flattery (reassures people that they are dragons for instance), says SD's feeling drained is a learning experience, etc. I would also think that spiritual matters are something one should embark to learn on their own, rather than have told to them - again, aren't many of these questions (or at least the important ones) things that people should seek the answers to themselves?

If I were an intelligent parasite, and I were hungry, this arch angel's behavior is the way I'd assure I got fed regularly while also being careful enough that I didn't scare my host away, but rather kept him coming back.

This isn't anything against SD, but just the opposite: you do not need an arch angel any more than you need a oijia (sp?) board. You are more than competent on your own.
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Akensai

#1. In non-duality traditions they call the identification whit the ego as you an illusion, the reality being there is no "you", only all-conscious (god, Tao, all-that-is) acting trough your mind and body in the physical dimension. So there is no real free choice, only conscious happening. What are your views on this?

Blackstream

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Originally posted by mactombs

uses flattery (reassures people that they are dragons for instance), says SD's feeling drained is a learning experience, etc. I would also think that spiritual matters are something one should embark to learn on their own, rather than have told to them - again


That was probably directed at me.  Honestly I couldn't care less if I am a dragon or not, partially because I don't even know what a real dragon is.  Not to mention that Michael isn't getting my energy by telling me I'm a dragon.  

Another thing is that Spectral Dragon has explained before while the process leaves him tired.  I'm sure SD is more than adept enough to detect if someone is stealing his energy or not.  The reason why it tires him he's already explained, but I can't find it.  It's more like the mental activity he's doing is naturally tiring.  Sort of like how me doing telekinesis is tiring for me (even thought I don't have much success).

Finally, about finding your own answers, how can we progress spiritually as a society with this kind of do-it-yourself attitude?  This is the same kind of attitude that holds back a lot of the programmer community.  It's called the reinvent-the-wheel attitude.  If we can get boosted along in our knowledge by credible sources, why not take advantage of it?  If we can get training in various areas of psychic stuff (like Robert Bruce's N.E.W), why not take advantage of it?  Everyone starting from scratch every time will just result in us going nowhere.  With no one to help me get going, I'll be left to make the same leaps and bounds everyone else has already made.  Think how far along we'd be at anything in this world if we took that mentality.  Math wouldn't progress much beyond the idea of multplication, we wouldn't be able to work metal, we would be killing ourselves off of poisonous plants all the time because no one would tell us what was good and what wasn't.

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mactombs

It seems as if you didn't read my link at all, Blackstream.

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That was probably directed at me. Honestly I couldn't care less if I am a dragon or not, partially because I don't even know what a real dragon is. Not to mention that Michael isn't getting my energy by telling me I'm a dragon.


I don't think you're the only one. And no, Michael doesn't directly get your energy, instead, he gets you or whoever to ask a whole new slew of questions.

Furthermore, saying that programming or mathematical progress is the same as spiritual progress also doesn't work for me. How is finding your answers posted on a forum in a Q&A with an "arch angel" a deeply personal journey within yourself? Sometimes's it's the journey and the prices paid for knowledge that are truly valuable.

I would also say, anything that turns you from your own self-reliance, from finding your own answers, is hawking easy answers.

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cube

Hi mactombs,
Your post provoked some thoughts from me:

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I would also say, anything that turns you from your own self-reliance, from finding your own answers, is hawking easy answers.



It would definitely be a mistake to take the Micheal answers at face value. All these answers have to be verified before they should be taken seriously. There's nothing easy about verifying most of these answers, so it certainly still keeps everyone within the bounds of self reliance.

It would be as big a mistake to ignore the answers completely as it would be to take them as truth without verification.

On a side note, I have discovered that I really like steamed yams.
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LordoftheBunnies

I would also add that Michael stated the main reason he gives simple and cryptic answer is because he wants people to think deeply, and gain understanding on their own.  It could very well be argued that giving heavily detailed and complex answers doesn't give the listener as much incentive to explore things on their own.  Personally, I have found that mulling over some the answers in my mind, and reading inbetween the lines, has helped me on several levels.

Blackstream

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Originally posted by mactombs

Furthermore, saying that programming or mathematical progress is the same as spiritual progress also doesn't work for me.

Whether it works for you or not t's the same concept of using the collective knowledge to move ahead rather than refiguring everything out from scratch everytime.  I wish I had known about new and energy manipulation and lucid dreams 10 years ago, maybe I'd be rather competent by now.  If you don't want other people's help, fine, go your own way.  I don't wanna spend 20 years learning what everone else knows when it could take me 1 year, 20 seconds to hear it and a years worth of APs to prove it to myself.  I.e., I can prove pretty fast to me that calculus works.  However, it would take me quite a few lifetimes to actually figure it out on my own.

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How is finding your answers posted on a forum in a Q&A with an "arch angel" a deeply personal journey within yourself? Sometimes's it's the journey and the prices paid for knowledge that are truly valuable.

Since when is the truth and spiritualism a deeply personal journey?  I view it as a rather objective reality that I am searching to learn about, and I could use some pointers.  And please... don't start telling me reality is subjective, I've heard enough of that already.

Anyways, obviously the arch angel wouldn't be the end all be all of my journey, but it does however help me along my path.  With the arch angel being the second being to tell me I have a dragon guide, I've got something to work with now.  Also he told me I'm a dragon.  With that to work on, I've got something to now explore when I AP, i.e., what this entails and if it's true.  Whereas before I probably would of just wandered around meaninglessly having sex with astral girls for awhile first.

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I would also say, anything that turns you from your own self-reliance, from finding your own answers, is hawking easy answers.



One of the lessons I'm learning is that reling solely on yourself is not the way to go.  If you want to learn, you will need other people.  At least in my and many other people's roads.  I still rely on myself, but I'm not afraid to ask for help or guidence if I need it.

Finally, I read your link, and my response is... so?  What about it?  Yes there are negative guides out there that serve to manipulate and steal your energy.  If you notice, Michael is not predicting the end of the world, abandoning your possessions, starting a cult, stirring up emotions (except for the people wasting their energy trying to prove he isn't an archangle), or anything else that would qualify as something a negative entity would do.  The only thing you have to go off of is SD feeling tired after a meditation and it's already been said that there is another reason for that.

I'm sure none of this will get through to you though, you are pretty adament about Michael = negative entity.
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Veccolo

So, you mean that having sex with hot astral chicks doesn't help me on my spiritual journey!? Damn!
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