Pain is unavoidable, but suffering is optional.
Have you looked into the possibility of a physical medical cause? Maybe a food allergy?
What is this feeling like, the one in the pit of your stomach? A warmth, coolness, tight area, tingliness, stabbing, or burning? Is the area around it tense or unaffected? How do you feel about it? Is it constantly there or does it seem to make itself felt more in the mornings, at bedtime, during the night, while you are walking, sitting, standing still? Is it worse when you are around people or alone?
thanks for the reply Tom,
as far as i know there is no medical cause. i haven't talked to a medical doctor about it, because my faith in them is somewhat limited... no food allergies either that i know of.
it is like a tight, dropping, twisting sensation. almost like someone has my stomach in their fist and is clenching it and pulling it down. the area around it is tense as well. the boundaries of where it is are kind of fuzzy. also, it has a tendency to move, especially if i am doing reiki on it or something, it will move down lower or up to my heart.
it is always there, but sometimes it is stronger than others. i can go for a couple of hours without even noticing it, but then when i think to look i will realize it is still there. It tends to get worse when i'm around people, especially people i don't like or people that drain me in some way. It gets noticably stronger when I am depressed, and also if I drink or do any kind of drug. I also feel it really strongly when I am around people who are sick, especially the mentally ill.
It may be because you're sensitive to people's energy and you're feeling it in that way.
I normally dont attribute things to energy.. i mean if it was once or twice i'd think you ate something bad. I'd get a weird feeling in my stomach when i'd be in a place i didnt want to be. Im not saying its metaphysical but maybe theres some kinda conflict where for whatever reason your body is rejecting the energy around you. i think its weird that it moves up when you do reiki might actually verify that fact.
I really dont know how you'd get over it except i dont know if you've done the NEW system RB has here. You might try it on that area just to see what happens
Hi Ash
Are there any acompanied physical stomach/digestive problems? Stomach is related to pensiveness/worry/anxiety. Does the mental state preceed the physical symptom or is it caused from the physical sensation?
It might be just an overall sensitivity to what's going on around you. In that case practise some stress reducing meditation techniques & learning to shield.
It could possibly be a negative energy attachment 'neg' as Robert calls them in his book.There are many different varieties of these. The fact that it moves when you do Reiki makes me wonder in that regard. Negs respond to a person's emotions & thoughts. They also interfer with them & cause negative thoughts & emotions like fear, anger,despair etc. in order to feed off the energy. They try to stay hidden & undiscovered for as long as possible so they can attach real good.
When I've experienced an attached 'neg' both on myself or others, I've noticed it attaches to a chakra or on a meridian/channel. An attachment to a meridian channel produces specific physical symptoms related to that meridian point. I think it is far more common than people realize. Try sensing if there is an external pt where the sensation begins. Do the energy brushing technique & see if it has any result.Is there a time of day when it is most active? Like as your falling to sleep is pretty common for neg activity.
Celeste
hi celeste and goingslow,
no i don't really have any stomach problems, except that i am almost always hungry and i have a tendency to get heartburn. I'm in very good health. The mental state and the physical state both feed off each other. The worse I feel, the worse my stomach feels, and vice versa.
It definitely is affected by whatever is going on around me, people's energy, etc. I'm kind of an empath. But i know it's not totally that because I can be in a room with people that I really like and everyone is feeling really good, but I will still have it. Also, I have learned how to shield a little bit. Still need to get better though...
I haven't really considered it as a neg. To be honest, I think way too much stuff is blamed on "negative entities" etc. But I will look into that. If there was an exact point that is the "center" of it I would say it is probably ZhongWan, the mu point of the stomach (i'm assuming since you were talking about meridians that will mean something to you). I haven't noticed it being especially strong in any particular time of day, or while i'm going to sleep. It's more dependant on how I feel and who's around me then what time it is.
When I do the NEW system I get good sensations in my hands and feet, and I can activate the upper three chakras quite well, but when I get down to the heart, solar plexus and navel, i can't feel anything at all
thanks for your comments,
ash
Hi Ash,
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To be honest, I think way too much stuff is blamed on "negative entities" etc
Your entitled to your thoughts but ouch!... [B)] that did hurt a little. You are the best judge of your own situation.
But for those that have experienced neg attack etc, (climbing up on the soapbox for a sentence or two)... [:)] it is hard to share strange experiences & risk ridicule -even here. Astral pulse should be an open-minded & safe place for people to talk about their experiences--where else can you? Besides this info might be very helpful to someone down the road.
In the spirit of support I will share information that I have collected through my own miniscule learning & dearly hope others freely do the same. [:)] It is all too easy get dismissive or get into blame the victim game 'til through experience we learn different. Vicarious learning is great!!
The new energy ways is not the same as the energy brushing technique. By energy brushing I mean using your "mental hands" & brushing that particular spot where you feel the sensation. As for the mu pt--that was just for your info.
cheers, Celeste
hey celeste,
sorry i really didn't mean to insult you, and i certainly respect your beliefs. i just meant that i think it's more important to focus on what i am doing myself, then what somebody or something else might be doing to me. For example if I am being drained by the people i'm around, it's more important for me to learn to protect my boundaries then to blame those around me. The same goes for negs. All I'm saying is that I want to find a solution within myself rather than outside myself. I'm not discounting that such things exist. so what kind of reaction should i look for when i'm brushing to help me tell whether it's a neg or not?
about the brushing, i'm not sure what you mean. isn't that the same as the brushing action as part of the new system?
and thank you very much for sharing what you've learned. [:)]
Hey Ash!
I understand--no problem...me too. [:)] Communicating in writing is sometimes like swimming in mud for me!
The energy brushing technique is the same [I think] but just isolated to the spot where you feel the sensation or discomfort. I've read the NEW but not done it yet. [8)]
When you brush on that specific spot only & focus on the initial sensation that you felt then check if it is has lessened, stopped or if it begins again. As it begins again sometimes it's a very subtle tingling, vibrating or I've felt a cold almost numbing tingling sensation can be felt. It can also feel like a muscular pain or spasm. Some lesser negs I think are types of astral parasites that try to attach to our energy body. I think people could have them for yrs & not know it. My experience definitely fit with Robert's descriptions.
If it is people that you are sensing--have you tried practising shielding techniques? Real shielding requires mental focus, discipline & regular practise to build your shield. I'm working on that. [:)]
Is it always the same sensation? if not maybe it is picking up people's underlying ailments. If you feel someone elses pain for eg. it can feel stronger than what they experience it. Another's imbalance especially mental can really affect us if we are very sensitive. In that case gotta get good at the shielding, keeping centred & turning it off. Try pulling in your aura closer and contracting it--like making it more solid less wispy. Mentally saying some affirming intentions at the same time might help to consolidate your energy around you also.
cheers, celeste
Why does it seem as if some people are just miserable all the time, and others seem to be happy?
Personally, I wouldn't say I'm a depressed person, or that I have a bad life. I have good friends, I'm well-liked, I've been in love. But through it all, even at the best of times. I have always had this feeling in the pit of my stomach that never goes away. The best I can describe it is misery. I've dedicated most of my life to self-improvement, meditation, energy development, obe's. All because I just want to figure out how to make this feeling go away.
Does anybody have any ideas on what might be causing this, and how I can make it go away?