...[:O] wow.
First of all I would like to thank you for sharing kakkarot. Alot of times people like to keep stuff like this to themselves.
If you don't mind, I would like to post what came to mind while reading these visions.. I'm sure other people will have very different things come to mind while reading it as well; these are just the ones that popped in my head:
Vision1, part1: when i was reading this, the WTC disaster came to mind. I mean, a tall business building with something bad coming at it is really similar. I know you live in Canada, and I think you're around the same age as me (22), but maybe that there was a series of choices that could have led you to work in NYC. ?
Vision1, part2: the movie "Signs" by M. Night Shamylan (sp?) came to mind. (very good bust scary movie, for me atleast, evil aliens always creep me out... was paranoid for couple nights afterwards)
Vision2: again, the movie "Signs" briefly came to mind, you said you had a feeling that these battles were against sentinent beings and were happening all over North America..(possibly world?)... very similar to the movie.
I think Visions 3,4 & 5 are all possible outcomes to the situation at hand. Vision 5 is very unforunate, yet somewhat reassuring. Vision 5 reminds me alot of what I "vision" to be the world after what would be a nuclear war.
(not to get off-topic, but if this is true, and you believe in Atlantis, it's not hard to see that history repeats itself. ((Which I believe we have the power to stop if we as a whole realize it and come together to prevent it fomr happening)) The survivors of this nuclear war would become much like the surviving Atlanteans that are believed to have created the "ancient civilizations". the people after this war would scatter around the world finding the least devastated area and start creating small communities, using whatever technologies are left to create what will become in hundreds of thousands of years later, wonders of the world)
I'm glad you have realized that you were going down the wrong road. Many are not as fortunate to have such revelations and let God open their eyes and give them a second chance. I wish you luck this second time around, and keep us updated on any new visions. [;)][:D]
learn, love & enjoy,
Ethan
thanks for your kind response epsilon, but i'll have to get back to discussing it later (only have ten minutes till the school closes).
but i was just thinking: "i don't think i put down how long ago these visions occured." so i guess i'll post that now (for those who didn't read it on other threads): i was only about 14 and 15 when they came. i'm 21 now (so close epsilon). and yes, it is hard to share them.
~kakkarot
Very thought provokeing... That reassures me even more as to why I would like to become stonger, mentally/physically/and with all matters dealingbeyond the physical. As far as with Social power, i dont really want that, and with financial power or anything that deals with money 'power'.... Bleh... I truely feel that i would only want that to help my family, rather than for personal gain...
I have not had any visions or any tales to tell, as to how the future might turn up.... But I do feel that I may be a person who may go through to the end, if such a case were ever to occur like with those visions of those fights.. I also have an odd feeling that i will either A] be killed by someone/something as some sort of plot. or B] live till im over 120... I'm not sure why I feel this way, but at the moment... oh well... whatever happends, happends in that scenario..
I hope you continue to do well with your connection with God, and I wish the best of Hope and lcuk that you continue to get better, with your life 'kakkarot'. [I'm not a person who uses the word 'wish' freely, unless if i really do mean to use the word.]
[oh.... and as a side thing with keeping your body in shape.... use ankle/wrist weights at all times, that its possible.... it'll naturally make you stronger, as you get used to them during normal life.]
I have had similar visions. Mine were more "set in stone" in that, I got the idea/feeling that even if I tried I could not change them. The odd thing was, whereas the path was shown to me the destination was not. In this example, I would only see 2, 3, and part of 4. I have this reoccuring dream/daydream(I think about the dream, trying to understand it):
I am fighting in a major battle. I do not have any weapons, nor am I fighting with my body. I'm basically psychically wasting the enemies. The people around me look to me for guidance, but I have none. Deep down I know it's becaue they don't stand a chance in the fight, and I want to tell them to go home and stay with their loved ones, but I need them to protect me. I'm .... using them as decoys. That thought makes me horrifyed, but I know that it's for the greater good. Also, I try to save as many as I can. They have weapons (some knives, some guns) and there are tanks and planes. Most of these prove useless (some of the swords work). I have a feeling that the swords work because either they, or their owner are holy/highly skilled and powerful. Some people are using bare fists to fight and holding their own (like you). And, there are a few others that are like me. I can sense their attacks, not see them, but the enemies are blown away. Most of the "normal" fighters, are killed/knocked out(can't tell) instantly when struck by one of the foes.
In these battles, it is always clear that we would be the victors if things continued. But, right towards the end, I feel a dark energy rolling over the battlefield(kinda like the Lord of the Rings movie) and I feel a strong presence. This causes all of the "normal" fighters to cower. Only a few of the strongest physical battlers are left standing, and of the psychics I am the only one not collapsed from the strain, barely able to hang on. Then I get the feeling that I passed out/died in the dream, finally giving into the overwhelming power. I can only assume, if these match up, that that is the last battle you are fighting. (this is what I meant by not seeing the destination)
What seems odd to me, is that none of the enemies seem to use projectiles at all(energy or physical). They also do not seems to be faster, able to fly, or any other "super" abilities. I can tell they are very strong, though. They also have the advantage in numbers, which isn't something you said either way on. Also, I would like to have you're thoughts on physical size. Mine seem to be large, but I am always far away. Also, the battlefield is a wastland. It is very flat and desolate, and there are no signs of former structures. It is also very large. I never see any preceding battles. Well I've see one once, but I cannot recall it.
Well there's mine.
-Kyle
One will only be destroyed if he tries to wield a power that does not belong to him.
I think we spoke about this a couple of months back making use of the private messages. Since my dream (which closely resembled yours) I havent had any similar dreams for a while. But I have this feeling, i think you know what I'm talking about, its a feeling (not necesarily bad) that things are going to change so much over the next few years, I mean really change, beyond recognition. I personally don't think this is a bad thing but we'll have to wait and see.
Lysear
yes, lysear, i thought you were one of the two that i PM'd about it. cainam_nazier was the other. "a feeling (not necesarily bad) that things are going to change so much over the next few years, I mean really change, beyond recognition". yes, i have felt that, but i felt that both good and bad things would come, merely in a manner that humanity always took for granted before.
Marker
wow, thanks for sharing yours as well.
"Most of the "normal" fighters, are killed/knocked out(can't tell) instantly when struck by one of the foes". that is akin to what i felt as well, that there would be three classes of fighters on our side: the normal humans, the stronger than normal humans but still not powerful enough, and then the most strong humans. the normals are like what we see now as we walk down the street, the strongers are the ones that have taken up combat training and can actually fight most of the enemies fairly well, and the most strong would be those who have a chance of actually deciding the victors of the war.
"right towards the end, I feel a dark energy rolling over the battlefield(kinda like the Lord of the Rings movie) and I feel a strong presence". none of my visions showed anything like that. i wonder...
"can only assume, if these match up, that that is the last battle you are fighting". that might be the case. or it might just be the start of the real war. the overwhelming darkness might just be a frontal attack that the foes might use to try to gain an advantage while they fight, and to weed out the weak of us. ie, the passing out might mean that you wake up later. i really couldn't say though.
"is that none of the enemies seem to use projectiles at all". yes, that was like in my visions. i think. my memory of specifics like that is fairly hazy, but it would make sense: why divide your power and throw it away as projectiles when you can just keep it all to yourself and reuse it for many many attacks?
"They also do not seems to be faster, able to fly, or any other "super" abilities. I can tell they are very strong, though". it may have been that you were strong enough that you compared to their own speed and strength, so they may not have SEEMED to be better compared to you. but then again, from what i can remember, my visions also showed that they weren't really fast, but that they were tough to beat.
"They also have the advantage in numbers". i wasn't shown which had the greater numbers, but i know that the enemies had the greater overall power.
"Also, I would like to have you're thoughts on physical size". actually, most of the shapes that i could make out looked like they were monsters of various sorts. like giant crabs, or giant spiders. HUGE, though: like as big as some tanks. some of them anyway, i saw some very different sizes and shapes among those that i do recall. it seems they either choose a shape they think will strike terror into their opponents, or they really do have the natural shape of monsters. but by the fact that i could sense, in the visions, that they were demons (though the visions never EXPLICITLY stated what they were), i would have to guess they can change shapes.
"Also, the battlefield is a wastland. It is very flat and desolate, and there are no signs of former structures". mine varied throughout the visions. in the second, it seemed like all cities and whatnot were perfectly ok, except for the war that was happening. in the third, it seemed like most buildings and such had been broken down and lay in ruins. in the fourth it seemed like the buildings that i saw were the only buildings left in all north america that were still standing.
Tarconiss
"I hope you continue to do well with your connection with God, and I wish the best of Hope and lcuk that you continue to get better, with your life". *bows to Tarconiss*. thank you. and hopefully you will make it to the end, if that is what you want.
"use ankle/wrist weights at all times" i used to when i had them, but then i left them at a friends house and haven't used them since. but yeah, i wore them in school, while going from place to place, shopping, doing stuff on the computer, etc. i wasn't allowed to wear them while i worked though. oh well.[|)]
Epsilon
sorry, i tend to respond in a backwards order. [:I]
"when i was reading this, the WTC disaster came to mind". actually, the building that "i" was in was only one of a few that were all about that tall. and it seemed more like the monster was just making a small attack on the building, since it seemed to be only big enough to smash through one window. the building probably could have been anywhere, and the "me" that was shown seemed to be like 30-ish so i don't think that i would have been in the WTC.
"Many are not as fortunate to have such revelations and let God open their eyes and give them a second chance. I wish you luck this second time around, and keep us updated on any new visions". thank you, and i know that i am indeed fortunate to be given a second chance. eventhough... looking back on all that happened it almost seems like God meant for all that to happen for me to learn something. then again, i could also trace all the bad stuff happening from what happened to me due to the military (which God cautioned me not to go into). funny that. [:)] oh well, doesn't make any difference now.
thank you for you responses everyone. talk to you later.
~kakkarot
Thanks, I thought since mine resembled yours, I would share it. The idea of the frontal attack to gain advantage(physical or mental) was interesting. I had never thought of it like that.
About the projectiles, it just kind of detracts from the concept of "aliens, becuase I'd think they'd just lob stuff at us from space. In mine it was never stated what we were fighting.
About the numbers thing, I like your take. Maybe I just felt the amount of power they had and represented as large numbers.
About the size... yeah huge, that's what mine were, but I thought it just might seem that way from my standpoint.
-Kyle
One will only be destroyed if he tries to wield a power that does not belong to him.
I just turned 30. For most of my life (since the age of 5) I've trained in the martial arts. However, only in the last 5 years have I put greater emphasis on internal energy training and meditation. My own visions have indicated to me that I am also continuing to train for some future war. They have shown "good" aliens and "bad" aliens. What's interesting is that for some reason during these last 5 years of meditative visions and vivid dreams I've come to thing very strong feeling that guns will be of no use when this starts. In fact in many of my dreams I am either using my own psychic ability or my sword (Japanese Katana) while fighting these beings. It's still somewhat muddled to me, but I can indeed add to the consensus that I do feel very strongly that a great battle is coming. One in which there will be many layers. I just want to make sure I'm fighting on the right side when it happens.
Chris
Thanks for sharing chris. the "good" aliens has never before been made known to me; i have only seen humanity and badguys. i hope though that humanity will have some help, we'll need it.
and with the guns, i too have felt that they would be worthless. which is why normal people, even with their advanced technologies, would be almost completely powerless when it comes.
"I am either using my own psychic ability or my sword (Japanese Katana) while fighting these beings". YEAH, the katana kicks butt. i've felt a strong affinity for war since i was a kid: coming up with battle tactics, knowing what kinds of situations were those where a fight was needed or not needed (and most were when fights were not needed), being able to pick up a weapon and within a few minutes become very proficient with it, and other things.
but when i first picked up a katana, i just KNEW that it was MY type of weapon. it just felt so right to be held, to be swung, it felt liked the katana was as much a part of me as any other thing about me. i felt like i had grabbed a hold of something that had been missing from my life, as though i had lived lifetimes before with the weapon always at my side. and even now, holding a katana sets me at ease more than anything else except God. it's like i already know how to use it, and what's kind of "spooky" about it is that it is just too natural to use my right with the katana (and yet, i'm LEFT handed). hmmm... i love the katana.[^]
but anyway, something that really puzzles me, though, is that if demons are allowed to go on a rampage like this and start slaughtering all of humanity why would God not do something to stop it? i have not had any feeling that any angels of God would be helping humanity out on any grande scale. i sense that those who are faithful will still be able to call on God for help for themselves, but i have also been told that when it comes i will either have to have a complete connection to God or i would have to rely completely upon my own power: no middle ground.
so many things about this are so strange to me. i have so many small pieces, and a few of the bigger ones, of the puzzle, but i can't put them together very well.
Yup, I know the feeling of the Katana as well. Since I started doing my meditation on a regular basis I've had several extremely vivid past life memories come back. they were re-lived as an experience. One was that I found myself sitting around a fire with several other japanese soldiers. several were wounded but we were all exhausted after a heated battle of which I believe we were losing. we were all dressed like dirty roughed up samuri. Both the sword and chinese martial arts have always come very easy to me. However, I have a strong feeling the most important aspects to develop is the mind, awareness, and focus. I've had contacts with beings whom we might classify as "angels" or "good extraterrestrials" who have been somewhat ambiguous with me but never the less have let me know they will be there to help. There are some some who are more powerful and also more spiritual or energetic in nature and some who are more physical in nature like ourselves... with many shades of gray in between good and bad. There is no black and white... even a very selfish person may have some good in them. I get the feeling this thing is going to be very very confused to some degree as most wars are.
chris
THE SOUL OF MAN IS THE OBJECT OF THE WAR, AND MAN HIMSELF IS THE
BATTLEFIELD.
DR. RUDOLPH STEINER
[8D]
"There is no black and white". well, i think there is a white and black, but there is also a WHOLE LOTTA gray in between. :)
nice quote ame.
~kakkarot
Hi, I never intended to register here, but after reading this part:
"but then i felt something odd, the vision kind of centered on one of my friends: a girl, and i'm surprised i could sense her gender since i couldn't sense much of anything about my friends in any of the visions, but it was definately a girl. i somehow knew that she was the key to our victory, that somehow we had to focus our power on her and she would be used as a focal point for our combined power and that hopefully this would allow us to win."
...Now I realise that much of this may be symbolic, but I suspect this girl may be real.
I had a dream a couple of months ago which was most certainly about the "end" of the world. The last part seemed the most important, when I was told by a TV presenter (I believed I was watching TV at that moment), that a Chinese lady named JUDA (I don't even know if that IS a chinese name so I don't think I could have imagined that), was somehow key to saving us... but we would all have to contribute in some way for that to happen.
I don't know where the dream came from, or if I should take anything from it. I have lost count of the times demons have entered my dreams, and I know how deceptive and cunning they are. I've felt how deeply they hate us. They can disguise themselves as trustworthy sources and hide their lies amongst many truths so the witness, feeling so privileged to have been "chosen" to recieve this knowledge, will believe it all too quickly.
We must use the gift and the power of prayer to discern the truth of such things and the Holy Ghost will be our witness (if what we are inquiring is true). But you really must put in the effort and have faith. I am working on my ability to do this right now.
I'd love to know what you thought about my dream.
thank you for your reply tong [:)]. it is very good.
i'm not sure what to think of your dream. like you said, demons are tricky little buggers, and i know first hand just how decietful and manipulative they are.
i would suggetst that you take what you can from the dream, and remember it so that you can hold up what you "learned" from the dream to other things you may learn latter - see if they (the things learned) are congruent or if they oppose each other.
never heard of a JUDA, nor did i sense anything about a chinese person in my visions. but my visions didn't exactly give me many details; and i can't even be sure if my visions were indeed visions or not, so.... oh well. time will tell [|)].
~kakkarot
Wow. This is amazing that a lot of people have had visions about this war. Kind makes humans look a little pathetic right now, squabbling among themselves.
The part about one girl being a "key" interested me. Can you remember anything about her in particular? Don't sweat it if you can't; it's probably a lot like recalling a dream. But it would be interesting if you could. Can you remember anything about the part she would play in the battle?
"Kind makes humans look a little pathetic right now, squabbling among themselves." well our race IS rather pathetic right now. [B)] sad really.
"The part about one girl being a "key" interested me. Can you remember anything about her in particular?" not really. just that she was a she, she didn't seem very tall (probably between 5'0" and 5'5"), but nothing else comes to mind.
"Don't sweat it if you can't; it's probably a lot like recalling a dream." well it isn't like recalling a dream so much as it is remembering a movie that didn't show the actors very well.
"Can you remember anything about the part she would play in the battle?" well, i remember that until the "final battle" thing, she was just fighting, the same as myself and the others. but in the "final battle" it seemed like we were supposed to give her our energy, or something, and she was supposed to use it to finish the demon off. seemed rather odd, but at the same time it seemed "right".
the vision ended without gaving any explicit indication of what was "supposed" to happen at that point, so i'm still a bit perplexed about it. but really, what can i do about it until it acutally happens[;)]?
"This is amazing that a lot of people have had visions about this war." yes, either it is going to happen, or a lot of people are hallucinating about possible wars. (anybody else remember all the visions about the world ending in the year 2000?)
~kakkarot
"well our race IS rather pathetic right now. [B)] sad really." Yeah, I'm kinda surprised we're still here. Seems like we should have blown ourselves up by now. [|)]
"but in the "final battle" it seemed like we were supposed to give her our energy, or something, and she was supposed to use it to finish the demon off." Only one problem. Most of the six billion people in the world don't even know they have energy, never mind how to move it/give it to someone else. I'm guessing it's not just like the spirit bomb where you just raise up your hands. [|)]
It's too bad that the people who make all the decisions about the world (right now anyway [:)]) don't know about this stuff. Wouldn't everyone be preparing just a little bit more if they knew a demon army was coming? Right now, just about everyone would be slaughtered. Easily. More people need to know!!! But how to tell them...?
yeah, go ahead and tell them: see how quickly they throw you into a mental institution. that's why i don't say anything, i don't have proof (heck, even i'm not sure whether to truly believe it. but i choose to until further evidence shows that i am wrong.)
"Only one problem. Most of the six billion people in the world don't even know they have energy, never mind how to move it/give it to someone else." i meant "us" as in me and the other two or three people with her (if we had as much power as the vision implied we had, then that would be more than most of the rest of humanity could effectively add anyway, and that's assuming that the rest of humanity would even know that the battle was taking place.)
and besides, if the wholesale destruction that the visions were rather vivid in making me feel takes place, then not much of humanity would be left anyways.
~kakkarot
I wish I could read this all now but it's all so long and my head hurts! It's still pretty amazing that so many people are having visions.
I WAS looking forward to this war - well, not the war but the aftermath...this world is pretty messed up. But now I have so much to live for. If this war means that my loved ones will die - and I mean ETERNAL death, death of the soul itself - then I'll have to train as hard as I can now and fight to the death myself when this war comes. I will do everything possible to protect those I love.
Peace
-FT
This is what I'm saying about the ORIGINAL post, I haven't read the replies yet.
If this war is to come, I feel as though I have seen a vision for it myself - in many forms.
One form came to me when I suddenly had the inspiration to create a story, or write one, or tell it. The story tells of a girl who rises from near-death to be the true "Psion" - one with pure energy skill and power that will be the only person capable of defeating true Evil itself. I see visions of this girl being frightened, energy being channelled to her, and then she is no longer scared. She grows massive "wings" that seem to connect her to the world, the Universe, and their eternal energies. And then when she looks the Greatest Demon in his most ugliest of eyes, he is destroyed.
But then another "vision" came to me. Humankind would die - but not quite. Part of the war would end in a higher realm. The last forces of this evil would try its utmost best to destroy our souls as we fled to create ourselves a new world - a new paradise.
I have also had dreams of me standing with people I knew...a huge group of people...well not that huge, about a few hundred or less. I have a sword that can channel energy through it, as do many others. I am strong, and I have energetic skill that I know just suddenly came to me over the course of 2-3 years. Of course I had been training extensively before, but I had suddenly had this jump in energy development - I just could sense that I had.
I remember a dear comrade of mine standing next to me in one of my dreams saying "so this is it...it's almost over..." and we stand looking at a city drenched in smog and cloud. Then we hear a shriek - an unearthly shriek - then I yell "CHARGE!!" and as we fight, we scream things to the effect of "FOR MANKIND!!!!"
At the end of all my dreams I always wake up (in my dream) with my beloved beside me, my comrades exhausted, but humanity safe in a paradise where magic and energy is rich, and resources are abundant but respected and well used.
The only thing I fear is that this war will bring about the undoing of those I love - even their very souls.
Later
-FT
OH! I just read the part about the katana!
I'm not very quick on the uptake of martial arts - mainly because I despise physical exhaustion[|)], but I've ALWAYS loved the katana. I'd love to just pick one up and hold it, to get the feel of it.
In my dreams I've always used a sword with great skill, but I never remember what sword it is. It swings fast, so it could be a katana. I guess when I'm older I'll check out a bunch of swords until I find one that fits right.
Back in the older days swords used to be "one" with their warriors I guess. A sword should be a blade from which all energies can be channeled through and used as a weapon against those evils you will it to destroy. Katanas are very well built for this purpose, so I guess that's why so many people find it to "respond" with them.
This is my last reply for today![|)][:P]
Later! FOR REAL!
-FT
been awhile since I chimed in here. Been on vacation and busy with school.
I agree we are too divided right now. But, i think the only thing that could come close to getting us to unite is some sort of common foe.
I've never seen a girl in my dream. However, I have another dream where I'm just chasing a girl down a hallway. It seems important that I catch her, because I have something I need to give her. Like, fate of the world important. Also, she's not running from me out of fear of me, but instead I have the feeling she has somewhere she needs to be. I don't know where that is, and the only thing I can use to describe her is the red hair. But I think that's just my mind assigning something to her. I have a thing for redheads [8D].
As for the sword thing. As long as i'm holding a smithed sword I can feel at home with it. However, if I'm holding some sort of prefab sword, I notice the lack of power it has. As referenced by my comment to a friend: "This sword has no soul in it." Basically, I think the smith puts part of themselves into each sword they make. I even kind of did a test on it. I was handed two swords and asked which was "real." Ah going on too long here, I like swords. I like Katana blades. I really have a preference to single edged swords as opposed to double. Any sword that's decently made will suit me though.
-Kyle
I can certainly imagine myself taking part in this war thing but seriously a demon war that nearly wipes out the human race sounds pretty farfetched. I'm pretty sure war and aliens are common archetypes in the human psyche which could explain why so many people seem to have had the same dream. War symobolizes some immense challenge, aliens symbolize something foreign and demons (I think) represent the darker part of yourself. I can't explain the visions so who knows maybe all of this is for real. I guess it's better safe than sorry.
It's possible that said war will come, or it might not. Not sure if this is a true story or not, just something I've heard. Thousands died in the year 1,000.. not because of a war or a great evil, but because a few people assumed the world was going to end then, everyone else believed them, and farmers didn't plant enough crops to last past the winter, why bother, worlds supposed to end?
My view, anythings possible, I've also seen signs of a said war coming. If it doesn't, my training will help with what healing abilities I have, and can help others more. If it does come, I'll be as ready as anyone else that's been training to try to kick whatever bad guys appear to the moon and back :) .
As for the good spirits/aliens/whatever yah wanna call 'em, I'm pretty sure they exist, if anything there the ones warning us of a possible problem, and give a sligh push in the right direction occationally when we're lost.
My opinion, don't take it too seriously yet. Train and prepare, as it may yet come. Mabe in 1 year, mabe in 9 (next "end of the world" is secduled in 2012 after the 2000 and 2001 were a bust). Important thing is to continue to enjoy life, for if we do so much training that we loose that, what is there to fight for? Life exists to be experenced, lets work together to make sure it stays that way.
-SoulWolf Pathwalker, "Spirit"
I was thinking of combining Japanese, Chinese and France swordmanship. Japanese swordmanships footwork, Chinese swordmanship flexibility, and France swordmanship speed.
It would be heaven sent if a sword that combines the best of each craftmenship can be forged.
[|)]
I'll stick with my Katana... Frenchie can't be fast with what's been chopped in half... and then severed some other vital area of his body in one fell swoop.
:)
on the note of speed: japanese master swordsmen can perform an battoujutsu attack so quickly that a normal person can't see it.
a friend of mine knows someone who can, and whose master can do it even better (cause the student kind of cheats [|)]).
~kakkarot
"I can certainly imagine myself taking part in this war thing but seriously a demon war that nearly wipes out the human race sounds pretty farfetched."
Well, I'm sure nuclear weapons and the idea that entire continents could be blown up with the push of a button was farfetched a hundred years ago.
About katana - That's weird...My dad went to Japan with my mom before I was born and brought back a samurai-type looking sword. My mom's friend made her a really basic one in college. We keep them both in the front closet, and my little brother and I used to oooh and aaahh over them when we were little. I recently opened the closet door, intending to see if my dad's sword had a "soul" and there was a black katana that I don't ever recall seeing. Peculiar. Or maybe I'm just forgetful...anyway, I see what you guys mean about the rightness of it.
GOOD GOD kakkarot you really can type a lot ! I wish i could type that much.... but im a slow typer and i'm not the smartest person(//forums/uploaded/ThE_MaStEr_Of_PuPpEtS/0000.gif)
WOW. It seems a lot of people have visions about a coming war. That Topic brought back some memories about a dream I had some weeks (or months? I don't know exactly) ago:
I don't remember much of it. It starts with some kind of BIG war. This war took place in some kind of desert ... or maybe it was just a destroyed landscape, I don't know. It also was pretty dark, and there were lot of fighting (though I didn't see any enemies at all) and alot of future-like weapons and machines (do you remember the war scenes of Terminator 1 in the future? It looks similar). It seemed that we would lose this battle. Besides me and a girl I didn't see any other humans, or I don't remember it. This girl wore some kind of uniform, a uniform of a special unit or something. Maybe it was the standard uniform, I don't know. We weren't fighting that much, most of the time we ran around. Well, some moments later the scene zoomed slowly out, and it ended in a silvery thing-which-is-used-to-open-the-car-door. Well, next to the car there was this woman, she had a baby on here arms. She looked at the silver-thing on the car door, with some kind of sad face, and then she went away.
After I woke up I cried for some reason I don't know, which is quite odd because I'm not a guy who cries easily (and it was the first time I cried after a dream). This dream must have some very sad (or maybe happy) message in it which I don't understand, but something deep inside me must have understood it after I woke up, at least I think that.
This dream was the strangest one I ever had. I cried like 5 minutes or so, but I wasn't sad or something like that, I just cried for some reason.
To the last part with the woman and the baby: It seemed that the whole out-zooming scene, the war, was some kind of memory this woman had while she was watching this silvery thing on the car-door. So it means mankind would have survived this war.
I don't know if this dream has anything to do with the visions all the people had (I wish I could remember more of the dream), but who knows, maybe it has. I just wanted to share it.
Wow. That's alot to read. Busted through it all in like 10 minutes but hey..
Now James (auraseer, who never comes anymore) told me he used to have dreams similar to kakkarot's visions, except he was doing much better off :X Then I heard that alot of people are getting these. There are many things I concluded from it all. Here's 2.
a) Kakkarot said that he had experience with seeing people from all over fighting. Here was my question (I don't think he'll get it because he "left"). Could you identify them as regular people or the militaries of the world? It'd mean alot. It's part of my thesis.
b) So many people claim they have recieved these dreams / visions. WHY HAVEN'T I!?!?! :D I want them too. :/
~Squeek
a) EVERYONE. everyone will be exterminated unless humanity wins the war. everyone will fight, *maybe* a few will live.
b) not everything is for everyone. and besides, everyone's "visions" and dreams conflict with one another. so like i said, you shouldn't take this vision too seriously unless you really want to delude yourself into believing it.
as for me not getting it: like i said, my senses are growing. i sensed a few days ago that i should check out this forum cause someone intended something towards me and because something happened that i would want to know about (tia left among insults in the degradation of the spiritualness of these forums. [V]). same way that i knew that someone pm'ed me on another forum just a day before i went back and checked that one out.
~kakkarot
Hi. This is intersting stuff. About 4 years ago I was doing a soul journey to an area I called the high ground, a kind of meeting place. I was approached by what we call an alien, but a different kind. He was around 7 or 8 feet tall, elongated arms and legs, cylendrical chest and built like a top athlete. His skin was a purple, south african black colour. There's a heap of stuff I won't go into detail about so as I don't write a book here.
He thought to me, "My race will be in your world soon, many of us are already there. Not all will choose to do what you will call the evil things. There are 'good' and 'bad' in all, some of us will work with you...(meaning us humans), as a 'resistance'. He then spoke his name, so I could here it, in his native tongue. Won't even try to decipher it for you. He continued, "Do not be fooled into thinking that your race cannot harm us, you have the ability. You will know when my race are on world, by their eyes. Look there. Tell others. Be careful of who you tell, it is a dangerous time. We will come behind your sun, there you will see us."
This makes me wonder at SOHO photos that show an object has been staying close by our sun for this year so far. One set of 'pristine pics' shows the object deflecting a huge solar flare around itself. Hmmm, makes you think.
Back to the tale. The visitor then astralled away up into the air. For the first time, I got to see a silver cord. And it is a beautiful Live Silver. So I knew he was astralling to give a message. You can bet it spun me a bit. I asked a Guide how did the alien know to come here ? The answer was, "Before you incarnated, you chose to do this work. Remember, he is not an alien, his soul is no less than yours, so he is a brother. He has asked, now is your time to do it."
And a lot more was said and done, but I learned that we are being faced with a very possible, 'Signs'-like scenario. Sounds stupid huh ?
So it doesn't surprise me that some of you are having this concept awakening inside you. The spiritual/psychic energy that you will use for defence is inside as I'm sure some of you know. Inside is how you get to the energy so that you can bring it into the world when you need it. To get it is one thing, to master it will take courage and open mindedness. I have seen that these things will happen and I have no reason to doubt something that has been with me for so long.
Thanx for letting me rave on LOL [:P]
Well I just heard about this "war" yesterday and I started thinking... Might this have anything to do with my dreams and visions? ok I've got some strange stuff that happens to me.
a) One night I was in a dream, some sort of demon dark entity thing was against me. I went through this whole journey to try to defeat him and I realized it was all a dream... the demon then wouldn't let me out of the dream (whiched seemed like forever). Finally I screamed "LET ME OUT OF THIS DREAM!!!!" and it said in a calm voice as I faded back into conciousness, "We will meet again, when we do..." As I woke up in my dark room I could see this Black entity thing float into the ceiling leaving no trace of himself.
b) now sometimes when I'm fading into sleep I will hear screams and growls and such. I will bolt up out of bed and nothin is there.
c) 1 dream I had I don't even remember, only thing I do remember is waking up and saying, "That power is incredible. I have to defeat them..."
don't know if any of these things mean anything. But since these dreams I'm scared of going asleep to find these things.
Hey! I just posted about warrior/leader/battling evil dreams. I dont think the people who make the decision are scientists, i think they are us...the people who have woken up, who have been chosen, the indigo children, the old souls born to fight this battle of good and evil, i think i may have a part in it. I think energy rather than strength will be the weapons we use, energy through physical attacks is quite possible. Read my warrior post, tell me what you think, if you would. ANY suggestions ANYONE has about strengthening your energy/gaining abilities/etc. i would really GREATLY appreciate,
my aim is TheWayIwas AndAm
email is maxpowers87@msn.com (i have msn messenger) thank you!
oh yeah, and the whole girl thing.. I think i understand that. Im sure the main force is a masculine power, so it only stands to reason that it can only be defeated by an feminine force..(spell?) well, Yin and Yang. Good Evil. Opposites. I think the Feminine side represents more of a light side, symbollically. I wonder if it could be a man utilizing the feminine energy..Doesnt matter, as long as the job gets done...I wonder what my role in all this is, i suppose it will come to me, first big step this saturday...
Does anyone know how to find this girl? Or how to even tell if she's the important one everyone is visionizing about? For all we know right now, it could be me! That would be cool. [|)]
"Im sure the main force is a masculine power, so it only stands to reason that it can only be defeated by an feminine force..(spell?) well, Yin and Yang. Good Evil. Opposites. I think the Feminine side represents more of a light side, symbollically." I agree, all men are evil. [}:)] Just kidding, I know what you mean. [:D] Couldn't resist.
And Squeek, now that you have Kakkarot's answer, let's hear that thesis! I'm curious.
P.S. - Signs was the best movie! [:D]
I have had visions such as these for as long as I can remember. I once met a Watcher on the moon and I could see the earth in the distance. He spoke to me of how the earth was "doomed" unless some of us assisted or otherwise. So I came, others have come with me, but the fight will need many more. Whether they be human or not human, the horde cares not what essences they destroy. The dark lords wish to squish the budding human planeswalkers. The guides have what is left of the Sumarians knowledge of planeswalking. I feel the war isn't far off now..the events have already begun. Some human planeswalkers have attacked me but I bear them no grudge. I don't walk the light like most of you do. I use the shadow, because I fight the neverending darkness. I only use a sword against your negs as a type of insult, my greatest weapon is my hands. Whether or not you want my assistance in this war, isn't optional. Already a dark lord has noticed my presence, and likely he will notice all you higher planeswalkers soon.
For about a year I've been dreaming about war, nuclear war, biological war, human vs human in pyschical contact war. And its beginning to give me this feeling that there's something in the future I should be ready for. :-/
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Originally posted by Ranegath
the horde cares not what essences they destroy. The dark lords wish to squish the budding human planeswalkers.
The guides have what is left of the Sumarians knowledge of planeswalking.
what is this "horde" you speak of composed of? Astral beings, creatures or do they have a physical representation as well? If these evil beings are being united, who is uniting them, and what is their final goal (wiping out the human projectors can't be that hard yet) ?
as far as the Sumerians knowledge, any help would be much obliged. Is there a way for us "human planeswalkers" to find this knowledge to be of greater threat when the horde comes? Is there a definitive way for us to come in contact with these guides, so they can teach us what we do not know?
-Kyle
Oh yes, I just love it when everyone ignores my questions for months. [:(]
Seriously, there are about six or seven questions on this thread that never got answered. I haven't a clue why it died, this is one of the most credible "prophecy" threads I've ever seen.
why? what makes it so credible, panabelle? i'm quite surprised myself that it hasn't died off completely already.
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Does anyone know how to find this girl? Or how to even tell if she's the important one everyone is visionizing about?
that's assuming there is only one the world over. the knowledge that the visions carried to me may not have been complete, or even true in any sense. i have talked to a few others though who have had disturbingly similar visions, and just as i am sure that i already know "the girl" in question from my vision, they are sure they know "the girl" that is important to their future. it is possible then that there are many such small groups of people who have something important to do in the war. or maybe we're all just insane [|)].
what were the other questions, panabelle? (and perhaps you should IM squeek to let him know that this topic has been "revived")
~kakkarot
ah, the thing that really started it all off in my life. or rather, the thingS, since there was five of them.
well, i guess i'll start of with Vision 0.5: well this one wasn't really a vision (hence the 0.5), but ... well, i'll just talk about it and you can see for yourself. i was walking home one day when i saw three kids who were riding on bicycles. now, i daydream a lot so i figured i could turn this into a daydream (yeah, i daydream a LOT). i started thinking about the future and that monsters would somehow wander the earth, with humans wanting to destroy them (yeah, my daydreams are weird too). so i started daydreaming that i could teach those kids that i just saw how to fight against them. in this daydream i was only a teacher, and though i may be powerful enough to actually fight the monsters, i left that to others. these kids to be specific. my daydream went on to do something with them saving the day (wouldn't be much of a daydream if there wasn't a day to save, right?), and so the final part of the daydream was them standing magnificently in triumph and with me standing in the background and off to the side looking at them with pride.
this is where the weird thing happens. as the kids (well, they aren't kids anymore, but you know what i mean) are standing in triumph and i'm off to the side, i lose control of my daydream. it zooms into the image of me and i become a shadow image of what i just was. then i turn and leave, just take a step and disappear, with a distinct feeling that i have to be somewhere else, somewhere important, as though my fight (the real fight) was just beginning now.
and that's when the daydream ended and i was once again in the real world. i was totally weirded out by this, so i shook my head and heaved a great sigh of confusion. i tried to make some sense of it, but i couldn't so i just stored it in my memory and ignored it.
i think it's might be important to discuss one other thing though. at the time when this "vision 0.5" occured some of my other daydreams gave me the same feeling of them being "kind of what would happen in my future". like another daydream where i imagined that i was much older and had a kid, and i trained the kid in the martial arts and in energy use, and those two things just felt so "this kind of thing is like the things that will happen in my future" that it creeped me out again.
Vision 1 (don't worry, there not all this long): a few months later, i was thinking about the future - earlier in the day i had been daydreaming about some possibilities of what the future might be like - when i suddenly looked upward into the sky (about 45 degrees up) and stopped thinking. then something like a movie started playing in my eyesight. all i could do was watch as it played out.
well i don't remember which part it started out with, but i think it started off by showing me my three possible futures. the first possibility showed the side of a building, really high up off the ground (the "camera" was high up off the ground, not the building), zooming into the building slowly while communicating to me that in this possibility i chose to disbelieve in the existance of the supernatural, in God, in the energy that i was just getting used to feeling, etc. still zooming in, a single window was highlighted, and i could just barely make out the sense that there was someone in it. at this point, the vision communicated to me that i would be very successful in my chosen career, that i would be rich, more or less happy with my life, and i may even have a girlfriend or wife; a pretty good life for anyone, really. and the vision kept zooming in and i could make out a person in that window, and i knew it was supposed to be me, and he was sitting at a desk, working at a computer, oblivious to the world around him. then, as the vision was still about 20 ft away from him, he turned and looked out the window at the same time that the vision started zooming in quicker. he looked and whatever he saw shocked him because he got a look of complete terror on his face. when the vision was only about 5 ft from the window, i got a strong sense that the zooming effect was caused because the vision was looking out of the eyes of a monster of some sort and that it was about to crash into the window. at the moment of the impact, the feeling of my life shattered along with the window, signifying to me that the vision-me just died. i, the real me, was shaken and frightened by that.
the second possibility started immediatly after the first one ended. the second one was more peaceful, more happy. it quickly erased the fear i felt and replaced it with tranquility, a sense of serenity. the vision was that of a farm. it panned across the ground and came upon a house. i didn't see anyone, nor did i feel anyone's presence, but the vision again communicated to me. this time, i would choose to believe in the things that i could have chosen to disbelieve; God, the supernatural, the energy, etc. but this time i had found love in my life, true love, and that was what i lived for, my love was who i lived for and with. my life was incredibly good, while not rich in money, i was blessed greatly by love in my life. i sensed that i might have a child or two, and that it would be a loving family too. it would be like the life that most people don't believe could happen. but then, that peace was disturbed, though not broken. i sensed things coming towards my house, my life. it's not that these "things" were coming for me, but that they were spreading out upon the entire earth and my wife and i were "just another target for their destruction". in the vision, i saw myself, finally, standing between my loved one(s) and the approaching "things", ready to fight with my life to protect my family. the vision imparted to me that the vision-me would be able to fight most of them off, but eventually my love and i would still parish. but it also imparted that we would not be heartbroken over it, after all we had found love and we truly had found the happiness that most people can only talk about.
the third possibility started now. this one was very vague and generalized, and i don't remember it very clearly. something about -> this time i chose to live for God, and to do that which He had chosen for me to do. that it wouldn't be easy, that it wouldn't be pretty, that there wouldn't be much reward in it on earth, and that i would very likely not be able to change the way things will be anyway. but i would get a great reward for it in heaven, after it was over, whatever the result. and that was it. very vague.
but the second part of "Vision 1" was about the events leading up to ... "something". according to the vision, in the future an event would occur that had never occured before. this event would take mankind by surprise, but the vision wasn't clear as to whether the event would be something like a discovery by humankind, or if it would be something like an alien invasion; just that something "new" would happen. and because of this event, society would have to make a decision as to how they would react to this event: to either accept it and its consequences and possibilites, or to reject it or fight to prevent if from occuring or from continuing to occur. if society accepted it, which the vision let me know was the most probable outcome as things are now (or rather, as things were back when the vision was imparted to me), then it would force a smaller group of people to have to make the decision again. this small group had more control over whether the event would be allowed to continue, or would be prevented or fought against. something like a group of scientists who knew the FULL ramifications, both good and bad, of the event, or like a group of politicians who had final say as to what would happen. again, the vision imparted that eventhough this decision was less "set in stone" for its outcome, it would still most likely be to accept the event. otherwise, if either group - society or the small group - rejected the event, then nothing bad would happen. and finally, the vision let me know that if the event was accepted, something bad would happen.
and that was the end of the first vision. though i still don't clearly remember which part truly came first. but anyway, this vision kind of creeped me out again (very creepy time for me). and i thought about it a lot. i tried my best to go over every detail again and again, trying to figure out exactly what each thing meant. but it didn't get me anywhere since the vision was completely self-evident; no hidden or distorted meanings. i also thought about which of those futures i would rather have. i immediately chose to never try to get the first possibility, which meant that i had to make the firm decision to believe that the supernatural, etc, was all most likely real (keeping reasonable doubt because i won't just blindly believe something without good proof). trying to decide between the second and third possible futures was a much harder decision, and i don't think i really decided at that time. i think i tentatively decided that unless i fell in love and truly wanted to give up doing God's will and just live my own life, then i would do what God wanted me to do.
Vision 2: again it was a few months until the next vision. this time, i was lost in thought about something when once again i just suddenly looked up into the sky, at the same angle (just want to point out that i wasn't looking straight up. there really is no special significance to the angle. no, really: there isn't... really.), and just stopped thinking. once again, something like a movie started playing in my eyesight. this one was something a lot more like some of my daydreams. me and some friends were out somewhere, a ways into the future. i couldn't make out the identities of any of my friends, they were more like shadow images of people, and they just felt like they were my friends. actually, i felt that i would meet most of them later in life, that i didn't know them now. also, i couldn't tell if there was four or five of them, but it certainly seemed like there were either four of five of us. well anyway, my memory of this vision is really poor, but in the vision i remember that we were fighting creatures, or rather beings since they kind of seemed sentient. but they were also really strong compared to normal humanity. but my friends and i were stronger; not a lot stronger, but enough such that we were going to easily win that fight.
actually, i think the most important things about this vision weren't what i was being shown, but rather what i could sense of the world in the vision. somehow i could sense beyond the constrictions of the scene of the movie, could feel out into the general events of the world at the time. i could sense that the fights that my friends and my vision-self were getting into were merely a forerunner to a war that was about to occur. i remember clearly that it was like we were fighting beings in pre-war times that were leading up to a war. i could sense that fights like these were taking place all over north america, i couldn't sense the rest of the world, and that normal humans were having a really hard time fighting back against them, even when using advanced technology.
and that was all that happened in that vision. it seems like the entire point of this second vision was to let me know that i wouldn't be fighting alone and to let me know that what we would be fighting would be strong.
Vision 3: a while later (i think it was a few months between each vision, but i don't remember clearly for the rest of them. probably doesn't matter though.), i had the next vision, same things happened: stopped thinking, looked up into the sky, movie playing. this one i remember very little about. more fighting, this time in the full-blown war. humanity was loosing, our group was doing fairly well. humanity had gathered itself into large armies, led by powerful leaders but were still loosing. we were growing stronger, but we fought stronger and stronger enemies. ie our enemies were becoming as strong as us. before one-on-one fights were heavily stacked in our favour, but in this vision one-on-one fights were about evenly matched. and all the while we were purposefully heading towards the "center" of the enemy, so that we could try to take out their most powerful force (forces?) soon. by the way, in the visions my friends and i have been fighting close-combat, no ranged weapons, and i don't think we even had ANY weapons actually; we may have just been fighting with only our bodies (hands, feet, etc).
but i think the importance of this vision was that humanity was loosing, even though my friends and i weren't, that time was a very small commodity at this point. as well, as the enemies we were fighting were stronger and stronger than previous ones, we had to rely more and more on fighting as a group rather than as individuals; we had to rely upon each other and help each other.
Vision 4: the main fight. This was The Vision of the series. my friends and i were flying (something we certainly hadn't been doing in the previous visions) and fighting a gigantic "thing". in the vision, it was standing beside buildings and was about the same size as them. i don't know if that was meant as something literal, or something figuritive but it is a scary example either way! in this one, it took all of us to fight it and we were on the loosing end. it was in this vision that i VERY strongly felt that the enemies were demons, whereas in the previous visions i couldn't discern what the enemies were at all. however, it still wasn't explicitly "stated" in the vision that the enemies were demons.
but anyway, while "we" were fighting the thing, i could feel that we were outmatched and that we were probably going to loose. we were giving it our all, trying out damndest to destroy this thing, not even caring if we died after this fight, as long as we destroyed it. we still couldn't possibly win. but then i felt something odd, the vision kind of centered on one of my friends: a girl, and i'm surprised i could sense her gender since i couldn't sense much of anything about my friends in any of the visions, but it was definately a girl. i somehow knew that she was the key to our victory, that somehow we had to focus our power on her and she would be used as a focal point for our combined power and that hopefully this would allow us to win.
then the vision ended. there was no ending to the fight, it was a cliff-hanger, with the vision giving me a strong indication that the ending would be decided when we got there in real life.
Vision 5: when this one came upon me it took me by surprise because i had thought that the last one was the, uh, last one. but anyway. this one started out with ... nothing. i got the impression of nothing. not that i didn't get an impression, but that i got the impression of "NOTHING". ie, nothing-ness. no image, no sensations, no communication between the vision and me, just nothing. then i saw the earth, like it was from orbit or something. i could see half of the earth, which finally brought me some relief, until i tried sensing what was happening on the earth. nothing. nothing was happening. nothing moved, nothing fought, nothing celebrated, nothing mourned, just nothing. as though all were dead.
this was because all WERE dead; i sensed no life on the planet. none. this scared me greatly, and i started begging God, whom i was sure was giving me these visions, to let someone live, to let someone survive, to let humanity win, to just please do something so that not everyone was dead. i was begging God out of fear, out of shear terror that humanity would be entirely obliterated.
and i guess He heard me, because i felt a slight "twitch" in the vision (which i don't recall having told the people whom i've previously told about these visions), and suddenly someone stood up on the planet. i sensed life. oh, you so wouldn't believe the relief that i felt upon sensing that person stand up, upon sensing that someone lived. i started thanking God for changing such a frightening vision and then others, too, started standing up. i was even more relieved, filled with hope. and i waited, watched to see how many would stand up, hoping that many would. it turned out that only a small amount stood up; the size of a small city. but they were still something, someone lived, and for that, even only that, it would be worth fighting for. the people who stood up started doing things, things that contributed to their chances of survival. like building homes from the destruction, gathering everyone together so they could all help each other out, gathering food and water, scavenging whatever they could that would help them survive, etc. it would not be an easy life for them, but at least they lived.
i couldn't possibly tell if myself or any of my friends were in there but it didn't matter, even if we died it would be ok since that was what we had expected, but at least someone lived; our efforts were not in vain.
at the end of this vision, i clearly heard something tell me that the outcome of the war depended solely upon who won, and that if i wanted people to live, then i would have to fight as hard as i possibly could to make sure it happens.
and that was the last vision i had. again, i was shaken, and as i put them all together, rerunning them through my head from first to last, it only shook my up more and more. i couldn't possibly know whether this war would ever come to pass, but i did realize that if it did, i would need to be ready for it. even if it didn't come to pass the things that i would get out of being ready for a war, all the skills, the strenght, and the abilities, would be extremely helpful in letting me live an easy life.
so that is what i decided to do. i decided to train as if the war was coming, to do that which God obviously wanted me to do. i thought it would be nice to fall in love and live such a great life, but i also wouldn't want it to end in such a bad way, so i couldn't possibly choose that life.
and so i trained. it was a mistake of mine, however, to allow myself to become fanatical in my training, for being that fanatic about it caused a lot of problems for me. i allowed my goal to become different from what God wanted me to do; my goal became to gather as much power as i possibly could, so that i could do my absolute best to win. such foolishness (even with good intentions) took me close to death and insanity on many occasions, so i am very glad that God has opened my eyes to it and allowed me to try again, from the beginning. and i'm glad that i can start all over again while keeping the lessons i've learned so that i hope i can do a better job this time around.
"It is important to remember, that when fighting monsters, one does not become a monster themself." -(i forget who wrote this quote)
~Me
(wow, it's one-thirty in the morning. this only took me two-and-a-half hours straight to write)