"The Secret Life of Kids" by James Peterson

[Bhikku]

Daniel- that's a pretyy interesting thing you did with the kids. I personally don't remember seeing anything like that when I was young, but even if I did I'm sure I wouldn't remember now. How about you?

"Look within, thou art the Budda"

[Winged_Wolf]

Nope, as a child I was about as psychic as a brick.  I used to happily play on the haunted staircase that neither my mother or grandmother would spend more time on than they had to.  I remember NOTHING in terms of psychic ability or phenomena during my childhood.  My abilities didn't awaken until I hit my early teens.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

[cainam_nazier]

I have been dealing with this stuff all of my life.  As far back I as I can remember.  I was truely awakened at about age 8.

It has been stated many times that children can see and hear things beyond what the normal adult can.  But it is not a matter of you use it or loose it.  I think it is more of it being schooled out of you.  You are taught beging with your parents that certain things to not exist.  Ghosts, boogie men, the infamous imaginary friend, and so on.  Then school does the rest when you start taking science classes.





David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com

[Adrian]

Greetings!

quote:
I have been dealing with this stuff all of my life.  As far back I as I can remember.  I was truely awakened at about age 8.

It has been stated many times that children can see and hear things beyond what the normal adult can.  But it is not a matter of you use it or loose it.  I think it is more of it being schooled out of you.  You are taught beging with your parents that certain things to not exist.  Ghosts, boogie men, the infamous imaginary friend, and so on.  Then school does the rest when you start taking science classes.
David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com

And of course the older you get, the more your physical mind becomes full of the mundane trappings of the physical world.

Deep meditation/trance is of course an excellent way of distancing oneself from these things, and connecting with the realities beyond the physical in all of their forms.

With best regards,

Adrian.

[Winged_Wolf]

(slightly annoyed)
So, all of us who state we've had NO such experiences as children are wrong?  Don't just blithely ignore us and go on with your theory.  Listen to what people are saying!

Some folks do awaken early in childhood, usually around age 5.  Others do NOT awaken until their teens--as I did.  SOME children are highly psychic.  Others are not.  Yes, in many cases, with psi children it will be partially or even fully blocked by the time they're older.  I'm actually lucky that my abilities awakened later, because I have very little blocking as a result--my formative years may have been spent hearing that these things don't exist, but since I couldn't perceive them anyhow, there was nothing to block.

When you make a theory, you have to look at ALL THE EVIDENCE.  Not just what agrees with you.  I'm far from the only person who's stated they had no psychic awareness as a child.  Don't discount us because thinking all children are psychic is a pretty idea.


--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

[cainam_nazier]

Wow hold on.

Winged_Wolf

Common and normal are terms for what happens on average.  There are always exceptions to every rule.  So in your case and probably in many others as well, there was no activity as a young child.  Some people never experience anything at all at any point in life, and others experienced it at a young age and have forgotten.

May I also say that because of the way a child's mind functions it is easy to forget certain things.  That being of course if there is no constant reminder.  This too is the norm, but again there are some exceptions.
And thus too as we get older it makes it more and more difficult to remember back to our child hood.  But this can be reversed and often is when a person heads into old age.  
But for people like us, with our minds already active, and who tend to contemplate thier surrounds and life more it becomes easier for us to remember things.  This being because we are not caught up in the normal day to day like most other people.  We take time to sit, reflect, grow, ect.  For most people this does not begin to happen until they reach the later years of life whe they are no longer working and have more time to do some heavy thinking.




"Of all the things I've lost..I miss my mind the most."


David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com

[Rob]

I could recount numerous stories about telepathy between myself and my dad when I was ickle, but cannot personally remember any of them. I do however remember enjoying looking at the edges of objects and watching how they seemed to move, which could well have been the aura, but that memory is at about the age of 6-8. My first memory is at about the age of 4, so I think it is more than likely that most people experience these things but do not remember them, of the memories are blocked out or rationalised away.
Personally I see the decline of psychic skills as being in part use them or lose them, but mostly because of how the minds of children basically degrade as they get older, losing their previous purity. There would be many reasons for this, eg forced to concentrate on the phsyical (distanced from the non-phsycial), flaws forming in the character (all those negative qualities thrust on them by the world around, especially parents), even psychic attacks as a child forcing the mind to connect psychic impressions with bad. And with this degradation comes the forming of the ego and a distance to form between consciousness and the spiritual. Thats my theory anyway!

[PeacefulWarrior]

I believe that if we could all remember how we percieved the world when we were VERY young we would understand that we had "psychic" ability.  

I don't have much time to write at this time, but I am preparing a very interesting post for this topic.  

See ya!
-Dan

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[bitsmart]

There are no absolutes in the psychic development of humans. Often, the abilities that are present in young children gradually taper off as the child is educated in 'real world' matters, filled up with all this CRAP.

I was watching Pay It Foward the other day, and suddenly had a very important thought. I got my notepad and wrote down pretty big, "Children are the KEY." What I meant by this note to myself is that you can learn so much from a child because they are uncorrupted. They see things exactly as they are, without judgement, preconceptions, dualist points of view. The younger the child, the more pure and uncorrupted they are.

Buddha taught that this natural state of being is called the True Self, and that it is always able to find it again, if you are willing to peel off the layers of the onion to get to the core.

I'm starting to percieve 'growing up' as 'falling asleep', like forgetting who you REALLY are and why you are REALLY here. It's kind of funny actually. The moment you start to forget everything you THINK you know is the moment you start to move closer to your true self, peeling off those layers and masks.

I eagerly anticipate the next time I get to talk with a young child and see what I learn.

bitsmart -
information illumination -
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[PeacefulWarrior]

That is the title of the book I am reading at present.  It is by a man who one day, while meditating in a cabin at the summer camp at which he was a counselor, overheard some children describing the colors "coming off of his body".  He interrupted his meditation to ask them about what they were saying.  The children described his "aura".  

This young man later become a psychologist and school teacher.  His book is dedicated solely to the psychic nature of children.  It's fascinating because he talks about telepathy (espcially the form between mother and child) as well as auras and how children can see entities.  

Today, while substitute teaching some very young children, I asked a few of them (when I had a moment away from the group) if they see colors around people.  Following Peterson's advice, I did so in a very nonchalant manner, and after I had asked some other more banal questions.  Two out of the three children whom I asked (both age 4) told me "Oh yeah...lots of times."  I then asked "What colors do you see?" and they told me "Blue, green and sometimes pink or red."  They went on to tell me they see the colors in adults around the heart area and the head.

Very interesting.  It confirms what I and many others percieve as the "psychic" abilities of children.  We all have/had them, but as we get older...well, you know.

-Daniel



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