Useful and Useless Death Premonitions:

[wisp]

Hi Berserk,
Actually I think it's pretty cool you have this ability. I can see how this gift has it's burden's. Sorry about the losses of your friends and associates.

Your most recent two seemed to serve a purpose. Could the first two experiences have been simply preparation for future experiences? It's interesting you visualized a skeleton with the first two, and they were both accidental deaths.I look at things like that because I study dreams, and it has causes me to think about particular points.

My grandfather knew he was going to die a year before it happened. I thought he was just kidding at the time. I read somewhere that people know these things about themselves, and sometimes they will give a clue to someone about it after he/she becomes aware of it.It is supposedly rare when a feeling that someone is going to die actually happens.Where do you think this knowing comes from?

Is your name Rick? Your post caught my eye when I was scanning it. I immediately remembered part of a dream I had last night. Thanks for that! []  My dream was something about a guy Rick who I use to work with. We were working together again in this dream. Not that it has anything to do with this subject.

Oh, btw, I've enjoyed reading some of your posts throughout the forum.

[Berserk]

Dear Wisp,

Thanks for your post.  Your theory that my 2 earlier (useless?) premonitions served as preparation for the 2 later {useful) ones makes good sense.  For me, one of the greatest mysteries is the elusive line between latent psychic abilities of the mind and divine or supernatural revelation initiated from the spirit realm. Sometimes I even wonder if the line is illusory.  

As for your grandfather's sense of when he would pass over, it reminds me of my father's friend Helmut.  Helmut's dad had always said he would die on his 91st birthday.  When that day came, he was in excellent health for his age.  He was cheerful as he ate a hearty breakfast.  He then lay down for a nap and, without warning or evident cause, quietly slipped away.  

In rhe Old Testament, the Psalmist tells God, "ALL THE DAYS ORDAINED FOR ME WERE WRITTEN IN YOUR BOOK BEFORE ONE OF THEM CAME TO BE (139:16)."  Of course, if our lifespan is predestined or at least foreknowable, this raises the question of how much else in our life is pre-planned prior to our birth.  From a biblical perspective, events related to our central purpose seem to be foreordained.  But this claim stands in some tension with the fact that, for biblical prophets, the future is never fixed.  Even dire predictions of judgment were often suspended if the people responded positively the divine objections to their social injustice or indifference to God.

Regards,
Don

[Dagger]

Berserk I know what it's like i have that 2 the only thing is it's only with ppl i care deeply for. The first time it happened I black out when i see things though but anyway i saw my last gf then a flash then slashed wrists then another flash then a bloody knife 2 weeks later she killed herself[]  and Recently i had a another blackout and saw my newest gf and she was being beaten 2 death so this time i freaked and emailed all of her friends and brother to stay with her all day and at the end of school sure enough a girl she had gotten into a fight with earlier was waitng for her with five other friends and one of them had a knife but they backed down cause all her friends were with her cause i was freaking out in my emails so ya if you can act quickly on these preminitions you might be able to alter them so anyway c ya

[Taalnar]

I've had death premonitions to, concerning my pets.

The most recent was when I was lying down on my bed since I was a bit tired and after about 10-15 minutes I suddenly had this vision of a panther which came from nowhere right up in front of me and roared and sort of slashed its claws in front of me.  I suddenly jumped up wide awake since it really startled me.  I then had a really strong feeling and thought "someone close to me will die in the next two weeks and it will change my life forever".  Our eldest of two dogs who was 4 years and 3 weeks old died exactly two weeks later.  He had become ill and a few days later died; his insides were rotting while he was alive.  This was a shock to me and had no idea he would die.  He was not showing any signs of illness when I had the vision.

But there is more to the story, a few weeks earlier I remembered thinking how strange it would be if one of our dogs had died since our new dog would be born already.  I thought "She would be born this day" I was quietly laughing to myself while working since we had only ever had male dogs, so I thought getting a female would be strange.  Anyway, after our dog (as mentioned above) had died my brothers went out to get a new dog.  Our new dog was the last one left of the breed and was a female, so they got her.  As well as this, her birthday is the exact day I was thinking about getting a new dog, Dec 21st. Its also the day after of the birthday of the one who died.


I have more stories concerning pets and dreams, visions etc.  But this post is already long enough. [8D]

[Berserk]

I will share just 4 premonition experiences.  The first two proved useful, but the last two proved useless and made me wonder why and how I had received these revelations.  I have come to my own conclusions.  But I am interested in your spin on experiences like these.

(1) I had just finished teaching a summer graduate course on Scripture.  I was exhausted and wanted to get away for a vacation.  But that weekend, I became strangely obsessed with the thought that someone was going to die and that this death should affect my plans.  It seemed that I was repeatedly confronted with the question, "ARE YOU WILLING TO SACRIFICE THE REST OF YOUR SUMMER?"  After 2 days of failing to suppress these thoughts, I began to fear that one of my parents would die.  On Monday morning, I decided to cheer myself up by eating breakfast at a favorite restaurant.  But as I reached the outside door, an inner voice seemed to shout,"SIT DOWN!  YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THE DEATH NOW!"  I sat down stunned and immediately the phone rang.  It was our department chair.  The professor who was supposed to teach the sequel to my course had not shown up for class.  He was eventually found dead in bed.  The chair pleaded, "YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE AROUND WHO CAN TEACH HIS COURSE. WILL YOU DO SO?"  I had been prepared all weekend to say "yes": so I did.

(2) I was playing bridge with professor friends from our School of Education.  Joe, a member of their department, had just died of cancer and his wife Elie (also a departmental member) was in mourning.  As I rose to leave I found myself saying to Paul, the School's dean, "ELIE HAS BEEN CONTACTED BY JOE AND IS WONDERING IF THE COMMUNICATION IS GENUINE.  TELL HER I CAN ASSURE HER THAT IT IS!"  I had not planned to say this and was soon embarrassed that I might look like a fool.  What had possessed me?  

A few days later Paul contacted me after approaching Elie.  Her children had driven her home from a trip to Bradford, PA.  She was in the back seat.  Something was said that made the family laugh for the first time since the funeral.  In the midst of the laughter, Elie had a waking vision of Joe from the waist up.  Joe too was laughing and telepathically communicated the thought, "THAT'S THE WAY I LIKE TO SEE YOU.  I'M OK. DON'T WORRY ABOUT ME."  Had Joe or God prompted me to verify the genuineness of this vision?  Apparently.

Premonitions (3) and (4) happened about a decade before (1) and (2).
(3) I had been the Best Man in Dallas's wedding.  Shortly before Christmas I had dinner with this couple and afterwards played ping pong with them in their basement.  Dallas mentioned that he was going deer hunting the next day with some friends.  I suddenly felt a sense of dread and seemed to see his skeleton beneath his skin.  I urged him not to go.  I didn't feel right about it.  He was certain that I was simply reflecting my squeamishness about hunting.  He was wrong!  He came back from his trip by snowmobile.  But he had failed to lock his rifle.  He hit a bump, his rifle discharged into his shoulder, and he bled to death.  I blamed myself for not being more adamant that he stay home that day.  But I wanted to mistrust my premonition.

(4) My next death premonition came to me at Princeton Seminary, also around Christmas.  I had been applying to various graduate schools and wanted to apply to Cambridge, England.  Rick had just been accepted there. So I decided to drop by his dorm room and borrow his Cambridge catalogues.  Rick was the seminary comedian; so I expected some laughs.  Instead, when he handed my the catalogues, I had the same experience I had in Dallas's basement.  I was overcome with dread and seemed to see Rick's skeleton.  But this time I had no sense of when or how the danger would arise.  Besides, revealing my premonition to Dallas had just aroused mild indignation.  So I kept quiet, hoping I was just paranoid.  I was wrong!  The next day, Rick was killed when the car in which he was a passenger slid on a patch of ice on a freeway onramp and crashed into a pole.  

Rick