ouija boards plain fun or more than a game?

Rastus · July 17, 2004, 12:25:50

I've never used a Ouji board without a minimum of a cast circle for defense. The whole idea is to attract spirits and ask them questions. So what happens if you attract a not so nice one? One that lies? Or how about one that has some issues, and your not interested in helping it, it might hold a grudge. Your true spirit guide can cross the circle, so calling on them is generally "safe" (well, as safe as it gets [

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You can also fake one pretty well in a group situation. If your metaphysically adept, you can influence people that are participating, perhaps getting them to answer their own questions, even if its subconciously. Once the "freak out" factor gets going, it can build into some bizzare experiences.

I don't recall getting anything interesting off a Ouji board. It has been a long time since I used one, and I recall having better luck with just my left hand (my reciever) than the slide thingy.

GANAMOHA · July 17, 2004, 12:30:24

do you know if ones made from paper work?

Rastus · July 17, 2004, 12:48:52

Wood, paper, stone, drawn in the dirt, it doesn't matter. There's nothing special about them. What "is" special, is your basically doing a group magical ritual. Most people are a little skeptical, and slightly scared it may be real. Multiply that by the number of people, some excitement, and maybe someone with some issues and you have energy, emotion, and people trying to contact spirits. Sounds like a recipe for interesting events?

GANAMOHA · July 17, 2004, 13:11:43

thanx

Nick · July 17, 2004, 15:08:53

Ganamoha,

You may first want to obtain a copy of Practical Psychic Self-Defense by Robert Bruce. After you read the book you may have second thoughts about fooling with an ouija board. It's a very risky practice which, for one thing, can lead to unwholesome spirits attaching to you. You really should try reading that book beforehand. Hopefully, that will change your mind.

http://www.astralpulse.com

Nick

SpectralDragon · July 18, 2004, 09:42:23

Here is my advice concerning things like pendulums and Oiija boards.

Do not mess with them til you have had experience learning how to take care of negative spirits astrally or via using your clairvoiyant abilities. furthermore it is not a good idea to practice mediumship unless you are 1) a Shaman who has already been initiated or 2) you have a very good instructor. I have heard of (and in one case dealt with) cases where the Oiija board becomes what I like to call an "anchor" point." for the spirit to thus come through from their realm and cause illnesses, bad vibrations, bad atmosphere, and negative karma in the local surroundings.

As with Oiija boards I would also apply to ritual magick, in that you should not practice evokation or invokation unless you have had the proper experience in dealing with such beings astrally or unless the said guide on how to do so says it is relatively safe for you. all ritual magick instructions give you a very clear cut time when you should practice these things and this is the one thing that you should not try practicing before you are absolutely certain you are ready for it. (BTW an Oiija board is an evokation and a rather dangerous one to use at that.)

If you wish to have contact with spirits or contact your spiritual guide try either finding a local shaman, a wiccan or pagan witch with years of experience, or wait till you can astral project to get in contact with spritual type beings. That is my advice in a nutshell.

Reality · July 18, 2004, 11:10:46

What does an Ouija Board look like anyway?

Reality · July 18, 2004, 16:02:06

quote:
Originally posted by runlola

http://www.bitesizeinc.net/index.php/ouija.html

I see... You don't mean that thing(on the website) actually works, eh?!

I started feeling, a little, just a little tad uncomfortable when I looked at it! [

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SpectralDragon · July 18, 2004, 17:35:32

That program isn't nearly as dangerous as a real oiija board but then again it is simply a program.

James S · July 18, 2004, 19:30:55

Hi Ganamoha,

If your feelings are telling you there's something bad about the board, trust them!

SpectralDragon's advise here is very good, and should definitely be considered. Any form of spirit communication needs to be done under guidance, be it from an experienced medium, or if you are an experienced medium, you still rely on guidance from known and trusted spirit sources such as your higher self.

The thing with Ouija boards in particular, is they feed of the energies of all the people around them. It takes a skilled medium to be able to keep those energies under control in such a way as to prevent the "like attracts like" situation from occurring where you might have people in the group who are either skeptical, or have some kind of negative emotions at work in them at the time. It is these lower energies that are most likely going to attract an unwanted "negative" type of spirit.

Many people have used Ouija boards at parties for a bit of "spooky" fun, not realising that they are in fact opening up doorways to the spirit world, and inviting into their homes unknown entities. Of course not all entities that come through from Ouija boards are a problem, but if you don't have proven skills in discerning the good spirits from the bad, it can be like playing russian roulette.

Regards,
James.

SpectralDragon · July 18, 2004, 20:42:56

quote:
Originally posted by runlola

quote:
That program isn't nearly as dangerous as a real oiija board but then again it is simply a program.

LOL!!
I think it's a real person. Her name is Amy, she goes to college in Atlanta & her favorite band is no doubt plus she doesn't believe in god.

I was getting mixed feelings when talking to this so called "spirit," which tends to not happen with spirit-type beings and as such leads me to believe that this is indeed a person or people taking shifts on this.

Reality · July 19, 2004, 08:11:31

LOL, you are not telling me that they have arranged it so that someone occupies that board 24/7?! [

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SpectralDragon · July 19, 2004, 08:23:13

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Originally posted by Reality

LOL, you are not telling me that they have arranged it so that someone occupies that board 24/7?! []

LOL but of course, a program that can generate such responses as to give off the essence of an individual answering and being opinionated is of course non existant for an individual person or group of people. such a program would have one of the most highly adapted artificial intelligences in the world.

A second option which I think is actually more likely is pre-programmed responses, and I have seen evidence of such. When I asked certain questions that were specific in nature it of course asked for me to be less specific. I think there might be a highly evolved engine that sorts out combinations of words that are the most likely to be a specific question. Some specific questions have vague answers. For example I asked it this:

-Can you define what a dragon is?
*7

this of course led me to believe that it might be reffering to the seven dragon legends. However the number 7 is a very vague answer which can bring about a response in a person's mind. The person will generally look for what the number 7 is reffering to. So if I asked it what is on my desk, and it replies 7, you will automatically look at the desk wondering what it is talking about. This brings about a search in your mind for anything that can relate to what the answer was. On my desk for example I would search my desk and find that there are 7 objects on the very top of my desk. It's a very tricky and genious way of making something look like it's got sentience.

Reality · July 19, 2004, 08:30:33

quote:
Originally posted by SpectralDragon

quote:
Originally posted by Reality

LOL, you are not telling me that they have arranged it so that someone occupies that board 24/7?! []

LOL but of course, a program that can generate such responses as to give off the essence of an individual answering and being opinionated is of course non existant for an individual person or group of people. such a program would have one of the most highly adapted artificial intelligences in the world.

OK, that's it! I'm going to try this thing!

SpectralDragon · July 19, 2004, 08:32:14

quote:
Originally posted by Reality

quote:
Originally posted by SpectralDragon

quote:
Originally posted by Reality

LOL, you are not telling me that they have arranged it so that someone occupies that board 24/7?! []

LOL but of course, a program that can generate such responses as to give off the essence of an individual answering and being opinionated is of course non existant for an individual person or group of people. such a program would have one of the most highly adapted artificial intelligences in the world.

OK, that's it! I'm going to try this thing!

If you could please post the actuall conversation so that we can examine it closely?

Reality · July 19, 2004, 09:36:01

Whoa.

That was tiring. Sorry I didn't save the conversation.

She is so damn slow!

Always avoiding my questions, asking me to rephrase them.

I tested the information runlola posted. Her name is indeed amy, and she comes from atalanta. But something strange happened I think, for some reason I got it in my head that runlola's quote said she was 20 years old. So I asked her age, and she said she was 20. Later I check this forum, and it doesn't say anything about her age at all. Hmmmm strange[

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If there comes a next time, I'il save it.

HMMMMMMMMMM[

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SpectralDragon · July 19, 2004, 09:39:29

quote:
Originally posted by Reality

Whoa.

That was tiring. Sorry I didn't save the conversation.

She is so damn slow!

Always avoiding my questions, asking me to rephrase them.

I tested the information runlola posted. Her name is indeed amy, and she comes from atalanta. But something strange happened I think, for some reason I got it in my head that runlola's quote said she was 20 years old. So I asked her age, and she said she was 20. Later I check this forum, and it doesn't say anything about her age at all. Hmmmm strange[]

If there comes a next time, I'il save it.

HMMMMMMMMMM[]

This coincides with my own experiences with conversing with this so called "spirit." [

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Blackstream · July 19, 2004, 11:06:08

o: What is my name?

Spirit: i thought your name was have i talked to other people on astral pulse

o: Nope.

Spirit: Really why not?

o: That was a question I was asking you.

Spirit: my favorite group is no doubt

Without a doubt an eliza esque intellegence.

Mystic Cloud · July 19, 2004, 12:00:34

It is actually very easy to 'script' an answering thing
like that. They can be quite fun too, if done properly [

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The AlphaOmega · July 19, 2004, 15:07:04

When people think Ouija board often times they think evil. I myself have never played with one but have seen strange footage of people using one. Does it's use have to be tide in with negativity? Can using a Ouija board be a positive experience?

Veccolo · July 19, 2004, 15:39:46

quote:
Can using a Ouija board be a positive experience?

I think it can. I mean, why not? The more dogmatic claims one does read about this stuff, the more (sub)conscious fears are created, which probably has a big effect on the experience.

Plus, nobody is forced to ask dumb questions and to believe the answer.

Bill: "When will I die?"
Spirit: "Tomorrow."
Bill: "AAAH!"

(...)

James S · July 19, 2004, 16:15:58

I'm with Blackstream on this one.
After reading Runlola's post, some of those answers are very typical of a updated version of the old Eliza pseudo-AI program. Basically its designed to pick up on certain words or phrases and respond accordingly.

Notice through Runlola's dialog if she asks a question it can't interpret properly it will change the subject or give a non commital "open" response:

quote:
R: Do you want to be Gwen?
A: Why did you ask me that?
R: Aren't I supposed to ask the questions?
A: How old are you?
R: old enough
A: that is a good age to be
R: Have you ever seen an alien?
A: no, tell me what that is like

Nothing new here folks. Fairly standard looking peice of text interaction "AI" software dressed up in different clothes.

- James.

Reality · July 19, 2004, 17:18:54

Duh! [|)]

"The Online Ouija board is not being moved by a real ghost, rather an artificial intelligence program is running the planchette. Artificial Intelligence can be used to create a virtual conversation that seems like a real person is speaking to you."

Also, I told this thing my name was "kai", it isn't, but it made it kim.

I asked: would you like to ask me a question, and every time it says: have you been in emory?

haha!

Real person, I honestly don't think so, I mean this thing works 24/7 hey!

Reality · July 20, 2004, 09:34:27

quote:
Originally posted by runlola

go play with a real ouija then! [}:)][]

Sure but only if you come along to protect me. [}:)][

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By the way you said you played it two times, you actually saw that thing moving on the board, eh? [:O]

Rastus · July 20, 2004, 12:22:07

Hehehehehe. Scared teh Extoplasm out of ya? Back to my original responce, never without a warded circle [

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