Grandfather, Mother, God, Spirit, etc.

[chill]

Let me summerize the concepts, quoting from the site.

There are several parts or persons in Deity.

Spirit
"I am the voice that has been deep within you, your essential nature as Spirit. I am the single source of Light that along with the Mother creates and sustains all that is. I am evolving as Creation evolves. The fact that I am evolving remains a fact even though it has been denied by most of my worshipers. I am Light, the Great Spirit, the Great Yang. I am the essential and universal masculine force in Creation. My energy is like electricity, like lightning, the energy of inspiration, ideas and thoughts. While I am referred to as 'God', and worshiped as God... the truth is that I am only one part of God, one part of Deity, the whole gestalt responsible for causing and sustaining Creation."

The Mother
"The other essential half of Deity is the Great Mother, the cosmic womb of creation. She is the one who opens and holds the space that contains my Light, the magnetic field of being within whom my colors and hues take form. She is the Mother of Creation, the great feminine power of the universe. She is known as the Holy Mother, the Mother of Everything, the Great Yin. She is the Will of Creation. Her essence is magnetic, like the energy of gravity... it is drawing, holding, supporting and nurturing. The Mother's energy is emotional, feeling and grounding."

"In the class called Quest for the Mother I will tell you why until very recently my messengers, prophets and channelers have ignored the importance and even the existence of the Mother. Although I will speak about the Mother, I will be speaking only for myself here unless otherwise stated. The Mother has her own voice, and hers is quite different than mine. You can know her essence inside of you through sensations, she is easier to feel than to hear or see. Hers is the language of emotions, movement and sound. And like mine, the Mother's voice can be most truly heard inside of you."

The Father

"The Father of Manifestation, the Father of Creation is my presence in manifestation, my Body. He is the masculine force responsible for the Creation of this universe. He and I had long been at odds with each other, and our differences have been reflected in an apparent lack of my presence in Creation.

Heart

"The child of Creation, the original offspring of Spirit and the Mother is known to me as Heart. He is our Son, our first born... and she is our Daughter as well. The part of our Heart together, the Mother and I... that is more like me is called Heart Son, and the part of our Heart more like the Mother is called Heart Daughter."

Grandfather

"Although the Mother and I have created this universe and everything within it, there is a larger universe and another level of Deity beyond us. Our 'local' universe is one of several separate evolving Creations supporting manifestation, each created by an original offspring of your divine 'Grandparents', the Spirit and Will of Original Heart.

"Just as you and I have a relationship in which I am constantly present within you, the absolute, pure Original Spirit I call 'Grandfather' is always present within me. I therefore have not only the knowledge and understandings of my own experience, but I'm privileged to have Grandfather's now as well. Although Grandfather did not create this universe, he and the Original Mother created the conditions that made it possible for the Mother and me to create it."

[James S]

Umm...ok....what were they smoking at the time they came up with this, and where can I get some![]

But seriously....
Sounds a little spun-out! I kinda get where they're coming from once you summerised it in your second post, but still kind of confusing!

The father, mother, spirit thing is a concept that's come up before, but the grandfather???

I really don't get the very first bit, about the spirit trying to reunite with the mother, etc, etc. That really sounds bizzare.

What are you're thoughts towards it Chill?
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James.

[chill]

Same as yo : quite bizarre.

I just came upon that site last night, I was too tired then to go through any of it, so I bookmarked it.

In there, somewhere, the spirit that is allegedly channeled says that those two were real channelers of God :

1. Neale Donald Walsch, author of the Conversations with God series.

2. Ceanne Derohan, author of The right use of will, healing and evolving the emotional body (about The Mother).

Here is a link to the second book on amazon :

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1929113005/qid=1077436340/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-6393777-5516146?v=glance&s=books

Have you heard of this book before ?

ps : it's nice of you to let your 'case' be examined by McArthur, thank you.

[chill]

Ceanne DeRohan wrote all those channeled books :

RIGHT USE OF WILL, HEALING AND EVOLVING THE EMOTIONAL BODY, Fourwinds Publications, Sante Fe, New Mexico, 1986

ORIGINAL CAUSE, THE UNSEEN ROLE OF DENIAL, Fourwinds Publications, Sante Fe, New Mexico, 1986

ORIGINAL CAUSE, THE REFLECTION LOST WILL HAS TO GIVE, Fourwinds Publications, Sante Fe, New Mexico, 1987

EARTH SPELL, THE LOSS OF CONSCIOUSNESS ON EARTH, Fourwinds Publications, Sante Fe, New Mexico, 1989

HEART SONG, VIBRATING HEARTLESSNESS TO LET HEART IN, Fourwinds Publications, Sante Fe, New Mexico, 1992

Who is being channeled exactly ?

[chill]

Has anyone heard about this strange concept, that Spirit wants to reunite with The Mother, and heal Her. And for that, It needs our help. The Mother was hurt by the Spirit. Lucipher and Grandfather are in the picture as well. The Mother is NOT the church.

Here is a site that explains it :

http://www.godchannel.com/navigator.html

The following « information » was channeled from « God »
on that site :

« (...) The spectrum of the Spirit Polarity goes from Lucifer on the extreme left to Ahriman on the extreme right, with your spirit and my loving Light, of course, in the center. Lucifer is warm, earthy, sweet and sexual, and often mean, brutish and demanding. Ahriman is cool, mental, astringent and rational, and quite detached and judgmental.

While Lucifer is sly, Ahriman is clever, and they both hate the Mother, but for different reasons. In a face to face battle, Ahriman will always outwit Lucifer, and yet Lucifer will sometimes win with sheer force of ill intent and 'dirty tricks'.

To reclaim your own spirit essence, first align your spirit here with me in the center of the spectrum. Here you can recognize both the good qualities as well as the problems with both ends of the spectrum. This is the place where you can reclaim your denials, and from which you'll successfully relate with your Desire/Mother essence. This is the place where the loving Light of Spirit connects with New Heart, Real Heart. These lessons and the channeling class will be helpful in finding your alignment. Also, the simple intention to do so will help bring you here quickly. »

Strange.

I don't feel like I can trust what is channeled there, yet I want to know what you guys think. Thanks.