psi wheel trouble

[Kris]

i can't get the psi wheel to move
       

[Kris]

what can i do?

[GANAMOHA]

what you can do is run a search on psi wheels in astral pulse and look throug them

[Kris]

that's what it looks like.. but it wont move...

I'm pretty sure i made it right... lolz.. i used a toothpick and tape.. ahaha

[labouts]

The problem is you haven't learned to do it, not that the wheels wrong. You do know it could take months to learn, right? If it was so easy everyone would be doing it.

[Slayer]

Months!!!!!!!!!!

eish!!!.....one probably has to develop a "skill" of channeling energy? Suppose like learning to walk when we were baby's?

We all got the energy and the ability right? We just need to learn how to move it and make it "intelligent" if you will?

Right or wrong?

Help........i struggle too.......

Cheerz

[labouts]

Your right for the most part. The thing you call "you" doesn't actually do it, in the same scene you don't move your body. When you move, you nudge a request to your sub-conscious which relays that request to the central nervous system. Telekinesis is the same way (although I'm not to sure it involves the nervous system   ). So yes it is like a baby learning to move.

The difference is the baby is assisted by reflexes which display how it should go about it when it's just born, telekinesis you have to keep trying different ways of sending the request until you get it. Once you  get it once lock onto the feeling you get, if you memorize what I call the "TK reflex" you will be able to do it again later.

This may just be superstition but many people note that potassium, glucose, and some caffeine have positive effects on tk, just something to note.

There is a lot more I could explain, but you don't want to overwhelm yourself with information about it before you learn. Don't be like the nerd who tries to get good at sports by learning the rules, you will get all your experience though practice.

And remember this is so worth it, learning and getting good at TK is considered one of the requirement for going form beginner to intermediate.

Just to list a site or two you might be interested in...

//www.psipog.net

//www.thepsionguild.net

http://www.fourmilab.com/rpkp/experiments/

http://www.wintersteel.com/Telekinesis.html

http://www.psiarcade.com/garden/

http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/Wingmakers/Contents.html

Be persistent, and good luck

[Slayer]

shot man!!!

I have to just be diligent i guess, practice makes perfect, or energy i should say!

Shot for the links

Cheerz

[Rayko]

The problem is you haven't learned to do it, not that the wheels wrong. You do know it could take months to learn, right? If it was so easy everyone would be doing it.

really? it took me 5 minutes... and those where only to read trough the psi wheel page and to make it and find the thumbtack, it tool me 5 seconds to get it to move, and then after a month i could move it from like 5 feet distance without hands or anything i could move it in any direction i wanted in just a matter of seconds

[labouts]

I got it in a few day, but I've know plenty of people that toke a month or two. One of my friends actually toke a year, I said it "could" not that it will. Guess I worded that a little harsh sorry.

[Kris]

ugh.. still no luck

visualization doesn't work  

is there something easier to try tk on.. other than a psi wheel??

[labouts]

tinfoil instead of paper, although I don't suggest it because the paper psiwheel is the definition of basic exercise. You could just keep trying though, I don't think it's too hard just that your not really doing it yet. Seriously it's been one boinking day since you first complained. What determines how hard it will be to move is:
1. Density (attributes to weight)
2. Friction
3. Amount of molecules
4. Personal limitations

BTW visualization doesn't seem to work very good for many, what a lot of people like is to feel like it's a part of them and move it as though it was. That my favorite method and doing that way will help you move in the long run to because them you can do things that would be hard with visualization like to TK the air.

[Kris]

what a lot of people like is to feel like it's a part of them and move it as though it was.

how do you do that??

[labouts]

Very carefully lol.  
You have to be aware out side your body, project your feeling of self. Think of how you bend your arm and do it to the object your trying to move. confusing I know but but if you get the hang of it, it works pretty good usually. well, I really like it anyways....

[Kris]

Very carefully lol.  
You have to be aware out side your body, project your feeling of self. Think of how you bend your arm and do it to the object your trying to move. confusing I know but but if you get the hang of it, it works pretty good usually. well, I really like it anyways....

i don't get it

[labouts]

...alright your aware of your body right? well you can be aware of the things out side your body. It is argued a lot that their is no distance, other then how we view it. You are a part of everything, but you are only aware of yourself your ability to move self. You have the ability to feel and interact with things out side your body because of this.

>.< not the best description ,but the best I could type at the moment.
I await your reply of confusion.

[Kris]

uhh.. ive never been able to move something outside of my body without physically moving it

[labouts]

You've been able to, you just don't think you can't...grr just keep trying! Rome wasn't built in a day...it was built on the promise of cheap wine and gambling but not in a day!

[Kris]

its not working

its not even budging... lol

[moth]

could you maybe be trying too hard?

[labouts]

 KEEP TRYING lol.

IT COULD TAKE A WHILE. GIVE IT A FEW WEEKS OK BUDDY?   . *eye twitch*

lol, jk. but you do need to keep trying and give a a while longer...remember it tends to not work when you anxious for results or too frustrated...or in a day or even a few days! ...and it's not very good to practice too much, a hour or two a day is about the max you should go for right now...relax man.

[Kris]

i'm already frustrated.. lol

and my mind is still blank.. and this doesn't drain my energy at all

[labouts]

It doesn't matter if frustration is draining you, it still halves your ability. It helps to have a blank mind blank but a blank heart can help to. True, negative emotions have been shown to make people move things but that's mainly because their sub-conscious is doing it for them. To consciously do it having no emotions helps, but if nothing else only positive emotion will do.

please note that everything I'm saying is personal experience unless otherwise stated, this many not be true for all people but I have taught friends and it helped them.

[Kris]

what do you mean by a "blank heart"??

[labouts]

think about it, what does a blank mind mean? Of course this is all just to begin with, once your good you can think about something and have wild emotions invoked while doing it. It would appear you don't have the luxury of great natural skill so everything that could help should be exercised.