Psychologists using similar to CIR method

[Rob]

Actually the whole article is worth reading, and is sprinkled with little comments which can be linked to entity problems
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/05/21/29062.html

[astralc]

Inguma

the NLP method described is a common method used in hypnotherapy and other psychological practices, it is simply a method that many people use to reprogram their thoughts. It is not anything special or magical, it is a common procedure.

If we consider a recuring and annoying thought it is composed of several things:
1. Images - big or small, colour (or lack of), intense or passive
2. Sounds - loud, soft, intense, passive, they can be a voice either our own or someone elses
3. Feelings - to the touch or emotional feelings

These three senses provide 90% of the thoughts we produce. If we change one or two of these elements we can change the character of the problem thought.

For instance a person suffers a trauma:- she witnesses an accident in which a person is killed. Through therapy we discover that the recuring thought is composed of images - of the victim she saw covered in blood, intense, colour and large; sounds - of sirens and people crying; Feelings - of horror, fear, sadness and hoplessness.

By using NLP or any other light trance method she can change any of the elements, notably the pictures can be made small and insignificant, the sounds can be changed to music. Change these two many many times in several sessions and eventually the feelings of sadness, depression and hopelessness will disappear. When the initial images and sounds have changed there is no basis for the feelings to cling into.

This method works.

Astralc
Psychologist


www.shoal.net.au/~astralc

[Kristen]

Hi Astralc -

Are you actually a degreed (MA or PHD in psychology), registered counselor, therapist or psychologist?

Kristen

[astralc]

Kristen

I am a registered psychologist in NSW Australia.

Astralc

www.shoal.net.au/~astralc

[Donni_Joy]

NPL is great apparently, but what I am trying out soon for my extremem needle phobia, is EFT -- Emotional Freedom techniques, based on tapping affirmations (or rather statements) along energy meridians to "re-rpogram" them! http://www.emofree.com/  This Aussie website is rather good too: http://www.lifeworks-group.com.au/therapy/home.html   Both have online books, the second some interesting exercises, both fascinating.... be interested is anyone has tried this stuff.

CIR IS good, but I am still terrified of needles (just the thought of them -- even though one of my greatest passions involves needles [beading LOL]

Cheers
Donni

[kifyre]

quote:Originally posted by Donni_Joy:
NPL is great apparently, but what I am trying out soon for my extremem needle phobia, is EFT -- Emotional Freedom techniques, based on tapping affirmations (or rather statements) along energy meridians to "re-rpogram" them! http://www.emofree.com/  This Aussie website is rather good too: http://www.lifeworks-group.com.au/therapy/home.html   Both have online books, the second some interesting exercises, both fascinating.... be interested is anyone has tried this stuff.

CIR IS good, but I am still terrified of needles (just the thought of them -- even though one of my greatest passions involves needles [beading LOL]

Cheers
Donni

NLP, you mean?

I believe my father uses EFT quite a bit with his clients. He's a social worker. Personally, I have found it to be fairly effective, though I have trouble getting myself to use it. Have you tried using awareness actions on the tap points? That seemed to work pretty well for me too. I'm actually planning on starting to use it again for emotional maintenance. Synchronicity...

Something interesting and not that surprising:

One thing that seems to increase its effectiveness is tapping with a person. You say the statements with them, and each person taps their own body. The person without the issues pretends they're the person who's doing the tapping for him or herself. (Do a search for "surrogate tapping," I think, on the website.)

All the best,

Mark

[Rob]

I thought this was interesting, it is a quote from an article on pravda and sounds remarkably like CIR:

"Before I answer this question I shall say some words about the so-called neurolinguistic programming (NLP). This psychological system is often mentioned in mass media. I happened to get acquainted with it from a professional point of view. Since 1990 I, being a biophysicist, have been specializing in the sphere of advertising and PR-technologies, where some NLP- methods are widely used. NLP is a set of techniques and methods, used for correction of the activity of intellect. In NLP it is declared that with the help of special semantic constructions and ritualized actions it is possible to influence psychological state. These worked out methods are used in psychotherapy.

A typical example: a person suffers from the psychological problem- he cannot get rid of the obsessive circular train of thought, caused by thinking over some shocking , offensive situation. A NLP- specialist advises him to imagine that he is in the cinema, to "project" the unpleasant memories onto the imagined screen, and then in his thoughts "to go away" from the screen farther and farther, diminishing its size. Finally, he is offered to "make" the image black and white and "to run" the whole situation in a quicker tempo to make the offensive words sound as if the voice in of a comic character from a cartoon. Strange though it may seem, after such a simple procedure the obsessive memories disappear. As you can see, everything is simple. A person must put some outer and inner actions into effect ( to imagine and look through in one's thoughts the definite set of images or to perform a number of ritual actions) and as a result of this operation the circle of unpleasant thoughts breaks and the problem disappears. It is quite evident that the concession of causes -consequences can be turned over. If a person "is lead" in the other neurolinguistic program (presenting a number of images or forced actions) - a psychological disorder can appear in the place where it has never been! So arises the effect, which I call - NL Deprogramming (NLDP). "