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Metaphysics => Welcome to Metaphysics! => Topic started by: RenaissanceMan on February 06, 2005, 19:51:31

Title: Psychopaths & Psychic Ability
Post by: RenaissanceMan on February 06, 2005, 19:51:31
I have heard it said that psychopaths have enhanced psychic abilities or better than average, due to the different psychological make-up. Does anyone know if this is true?
Title: Psychopaths & Psychic Ability
Post by: majour ka on February 06, 2005, 22:40:53
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Title: Psychopaths & Psychic Ability
Post by: RenaissanceMan on February 07, 2005, 16:55:59
The research I've read has shown that psychopaths use both sides of their brains simultaneously - a necessary skill for meditation, OBEs & psychic abilities.

They also tend to naturally be at a lower level of anxiety naturally do to retarded emotional development.  This would assist with relaxation - another necessary skill for meditation, OBEs & psychic abilities.

Is this actually the case?  Is there any evidence of psychopaths having above average psychic ability?
Title: Psychopaths & Psychic Ability
Post by: Tom on February 07, 2005, 17:12:52
I think that having abilities is natural, but that there are also factors which put a lid on them. If the mind is damaged in general, then the control over the natural ability could be reduced and the abilities themselves somewhat warped.
Title: Psychopaths & Psychic Ability
Post by: You on February 13, 2005, 15:28:23
This is silly, and you haven't backed up anything.

Just because they both begin with 'psych' doesn't mean they're the same. Oy... both just refer to the mind. One is the lack of control of the mind, one is control of it. Both have energies, one is for the most part destructive, the other is... well what you let yourself make of it. One is chaos, the other is hopefully an attempt at order.
Title: Psychopaths & Psychic Ability
Post by: RenaissanceMan on February 18, 2005, 01:05:33
QuoteThis is silly, and you haven't backed up anything.

True, I didn't back it up.  Try reading "Without Conscience" by Robert Hare and "The Mask of Sanity" by Cleckley.  These paint a detailed picture of psychopaths.  Serial Killers are a small sub-group of psychopaths and the ones who typically have other problems and I wasn't referring to them.  Typical psychopaths are quite often able to function normally in society.  

QuoteJust because they both begin with 'psych' doesn't mean they're the same. Oy... both just refer to the mind.

Now, that's just a silly comment to make.  I'm not playing word games.

QuoteOne is the lack of control of the mind, one is control of it. Both have energies, one is for the most part destructive, the other is... well what you let yourself make of it. One is chaos, the other is hopefully an attempt at order.

Not quite right.  Again, I suggest you read the aforementioned books.

In addition, I am actually asking if anyone knows if there is a connection between improved psychic ability and psychopathy.  I was not stating it as a fact.
Title: Psychopaths & Psychic Ability
Post by: Logic on February 18, 2005, 01:39:48
Thanks for stating the obvious Tyciol.. though ability does not neccisarily mean control, more so it means capacity.

"A psychotic drowns in the very same stuff a mystic swims in" - Pema Chodron
Title: Psychopaths & Psychic Ability
Post by: RenaissanceMan on February 20, 2005, 16:49:09
Quote"A psychotic drowns in the very same stuff a mystic swims in" - Pema Chodron

Psychopaths aren't necessarily psychotic.   Check the works of Hare and Cleckley.

I am up against a wall of ignorance on this subject so I think I'll just drop it.
Title: Psychopaths & Psychic Ability
Post by: wisp on February 20, 2005, 17:14:50
From what I know, psychopaths are psychotic, sociopaths are not.
Title: Psychopaths & Psychic Ability
Post by: You on February 20, 2005, 23:19:28
Quote from: RenaissanceManTry reading "Without Conscience" by Robert Hare and "The Mask of Sanity" by Cleckley.  These paint a detailed picture of psychopaths.  Serial Killers are a small sub-group of psychopaths and the ones who typically have other problems and I wasn't referring to them.  Typical psychopaths are quite often able to function normally in society. Again, I suggest you read the aforementioned books.
I'll take a look for them in the library and my e-library.

QuoteIn addition, I am actually asking if anyone knows if there is a connection between improved psychic ability and psychopathy.  I was not stating it as a fact.
Psychopathy is a lack of control, I think ability requires control.