questions about pk and concentration

[beavis]

When I started trying tk, it took about 2 weeks, practicing 1 or 2 hours a day, to be sure I had moved it.

The concentation part can be confusing. Your spirit must concentrate on it, but your brain can think about anything if it doesnt distract your spirit.

[cesm23]

Hum... Two weeks only ?! Well, in my case it's being MUCH MORE longer than that, but i never

spend a whole 1 or 2 hours training psychokinesis, only about 5 minutes, unless when i get

results, or at least when i THINK i got results...

Please don't worry about that subject this is my last question at the moment : when you say 1 or

2 hours it's the sum of your daily sessions or you really do a 1 or 2 hour session day ?

Now about the concentration part : What the?! How can i distingish between "the brain" and "my

spirit" ? The only thing i can say is that when i practise psychokinesis i can sometimes think in

nothing during about 10 seconds in maximum, not more, but then after 1 or 2 wandering toughts i

can another 10 seconds, but of course this isn't exactly like this, it's always variable.

Anyways thanks for replying. SLOWLY i think i am starting to accept unconciously that it's normal

that this doesn't have results at the first weeks, but because of not having results i can't

train for more than 5 minutes, its too much boring, altough i do several sessions of 5 minutes, i

hope this is effective as training as someone who practise 1 hour each day... specially if the

soum of all my 5 minutes sessions in a day equals to 1 hour.

If you or anyone here can confirm me that please confirm, as i can't believe that EVERYONE that

got psychokinesis had the BIG patience to practise daily a 1 or 2 hours sessions in weeks without

getting a single result ! Lolol

[beavis]

Please don't worry about that subject this is my last question at the moment : when you say 1 or 2 hours it's the sum of your daily sessions or you really do a 1 or 2 hour session day ?

The first month I started, I was so interested that I did it at least 30 minutes continuously everyday, and usually many more times in the same day. Some days I did as much as 5 hours total, but the average is probably 2 hours.

Now about the concentration part : What the?! How can i distingish between "the brain" and "my spirit"?

You can call it spirit or whatever part of you is not in your body. Its hard to distinguish at first. You'll have a better idea after the first time you do telekinesis. Cant know until you do it. Cant do it until you know. Lol. Thats why most people dont figure it out.

i can't train for more than 5 minutes, its too much boring, altough i do several sessions of 5 minutes

It could be long enough, but I usually didnt get it to move that fast when I started. For a few months I was so good at it I could do it in 10 seconds any time, but not anymore. So its possible in 5 minutes.

[Babalon]

cesm23:
Each person will probably have a different way to do PK.
The reason for this is that we are all just learning to use this ability, so like kids we're trying every angle to see what works best.
It's kind of like finding a dead animal for the first time when you're a kid.
Of course you're curious about it so you poke it with a stick. Meanwhile your friend, who is also curious about the dead animal, will proceed to inspect it by kicking it around with his shoe, and your other friend may pick it up by the tail.
You see there are many ways to inspect the dead animal, but you each learn about death in your own way.
Just like you'll learn about PK.
Each person will try a new way, and if we share our stories perhaps the truth about what it is, and how it works will one day be revealed.
At this point anyone practicing PK is basically a 'PK Scientist'.
It's all trial an error; so don't be discouraged if it takes you a little time to learn.
Since it's basically all about just psyching yourself out of this so called reality where you can't move solid objects by mind alone, and into 'knowing' you can move them.
If you catch yourself concentrating too hard, stop and blink a few times.
Remember don't try, DO.
If you feel you must concentrate, think about something that's funny or about someone you love, anything that makes you have a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
Those kinds of thoughts create good energy and will help keep you upbeat; the more positive outlook you have, the better your chances.
Trying too hard just uses energy needlessly.

To answer your question about "a single wandering thought hindering the process of psychokinesis".
Only if you're doubting yourself.
Doubt is the only thing that can stop you.

Also you wanted to know if you are supposed to use 100% concentration.

Honestly if you are just starting out you should concentrate, but not on moving the object as much as you should be concentrating on removing the mental block in your mind that prevents you from moving the object.
Whatever mind tricks you can think of to convince yourself that you CAN move that object is what you should concentrate on the most.
You really need to believe you can do it.

Stages you'll probably go through...
At first when the wheel doesn't move you'll begin to get anxious and to try harder, DON'T.
Pay attention to your body, if you feel your muscles tighten or you begin to feel aggressive, you probably won't get any action, and if you do, it will be very limited and you will feel drained and unable to continue. Take a deep relaxing breath... relax...
I don't mean meditate or fall asleep in your chair, but just feel comfortable.

Next you'll begin to see slight movements.
It'll look like shaking at first, and then sudden moves from left to right. At this point don't attempt to maneuver the wheel in any direction. You probably will not have much control yet anyway.
Just feel free...flow with it...let it go where it wants at first.
Notice the sudden jerking movements in the motion of the wheel when you're attempting PK that differ from the normal smooth revelations caused by wind.
After a short period of time you should begin to recognize the difference.




Next, if you like, picture a tiny floating orb near your wheel.
How did that happen? Somehow a tiny ball has popped off the aura of your wheel and is now floating next to it.
You don't have to actually see it, but feel it there next to your wheel.
Imagine it has a magnetic pull; it's a magnetic orb.
Float the orb around the wheel, and imagine a corner of your wheel following the orb.
Sometimes this will work to get your first movement, but you should really not limit yourself to any one way of doing it.
Per say, if you use your hands allot, you will become dependant upon having your hand near the PSI wheel to perform PK.
When really you only need your truest purest desire, and nothing more.
Feel free to ask me any questions you like and I'll try to answer the best I can from my own personal experiences, and in my own opinion. But know, in the end getting the wheel to move doesn't rely on me convincing you or telling you how to do it, but more so in the belief that you can do it.

[Reality]

Heh interesting post.

Here's my view on 'concentration'. Or what's working great for me right now!

I am very relaxed, I have to feel the pressure on my third eye, no thoughts at all (maybe a few in the back of my head but at first my mind is like clear blue water if my thoughts get to crowded I either lose speed or it even stops). Then I just look at the paper, maybe with one hand to support it, and it will start spinning.

[cesm23]

ok, Beavis and Babalon (wait a minute, now i notice you are the author of the post "Here's a quick way to learn Telekinesis"!) i only reply now because i finally GOT RESULTS. But, unfortunately, JUST LIKE YOU, beavis, it's VERY DIFFICULT to be sure if it's really me that is making the psywheel move or if it's wind.

PLEASE tell me (both beavis and babalon), your crown chakra doesn't hurt when practising pk all that time ?! I only practise now 5 minutes daily and my crown chakra starts to ache, and the time i got results, in next day my crown chakra STILL ACHED, fortunately it's never too painfull, it's just a bit painfull. Is this normal ?! I am a bit afraid of this, specially because i think i don't have my third eye chakra open, and accorind to Red Dragon (a nick of a person which replyed a post of mine) that means i am going too fast and it's dangerous if i managed to fully open the crown chakra. What do you advice me, or better how did you did, did you have your third eye chakra opened ?! Why this is ONLY dangerous for me just practising 5 minutes and you guys that have sucess on pk can practise about 30 minutes or more without any problems ?!

When i got results was when i was lying on my side and the psywheel was on the bed-table (so i was looking at the wheel at a 45º angle). A few minutes after i was trying it started to twitch, but i immediatly tought it was wind but no, it seemed to react to my toughts. By the way i was trying to control it much like when i use mobile awareness from n.e.w., it's like that we are supposed to try to move the psywheel or ONLY visualizing ?

Also, babalon i am still to try your method, the one you descrived in "Here's a quick way to learn Telekinesis". But again, isn't it dangerous to try to develop pk before opening lower chakras ?

[volcomstone]

get really stoned and just stare at it for a while

[cesm23]

in everywhere i readed about psychokinesis, i readed that it always requires very good concentration, and in most places they even say 100% concentration ! And that a single wandering tought will hinder the process of psychokinesis. And sometimes i hear exactly the opposite, i mean, that it's not required 100% concentration and that it takes as much concentrarion as it takes to move a arm or leg !!

After all, and now ONLY the persons which CAN actually do psychokinesis reply this question :
Everytime you do psychokinesis you always have 100% concentration without a single wandering tought while moving the object ? Or as soon as you haved a wandering tought the object stopped moving ?!

A last question : beavis some time ago replyed to me saying that he moved the object by moving the one on his mind. If he is reading this, reply : about how many number of tries (or days of tries) WITHOUT ANY RESULTS took to you start giving results ? It's because i also do that and absolutly nothing happens, but continuously doing this thousands of times will do results in the future ?