Ranting Teen Boy has Overtaken This Post - skip it

[kiauma]

Personally, I don't think that is a question to be put to anyone else.

As free spirits having a physical experience, we fill our lives by the choices we make.  No one can, or should, make these dicisions for us.  Secondly, children do not come from us, they come through us, a distinction which again does not relieve us of responsibility, thus empowering us, but also is a statement of the empowerment of the life you are considering bringing into this world.

Whatever you decide, however you consider it, I wish you great love and peace, and know that your heart's decisions will always be right for you.

[MJ-12]

as

[Leyla]

I was not asking anyone to make the decision for me. Only I can do that.

I thought I made myself clear I was asking for "advice" and wondered if anyone could get a message for me.

[Nagual]

quote:I've been talking to a man and he thinks we should have a baby together.

"A man"...  Is this man a stranger? your husband/partner?

[Kalonek]

quote:Originally posted by Nagual

quote:I've been talking to a man and he thinks we should have a baby together.

"A man"...  Is this man a stranger? your husband/partner?

Same as my compatriot Naqual [:O] Do you know him at least ?? By reading you it sounds like you just met him yesterday (?)

[kiauma]

That makes it pretty much unanimous.  The message the spirits are sending is "Think for yourself".  

[Gwathren]

I don't think that Leyla thought "a man". I suspect that maybe "your man", since a baby with "a man" sounds a bit wierd.

The point of life is that there is no point of life, because the point of life is giving birth to children, who give birth to their children... etc But two excuses can be considered as point of life:
1 being happy - a really good one
2 giving bihth, i mean making "the baby" - the natural one

My advice is: consider if making the baby makes you happy[]

[Kalonek]

quote:Originally posted by Gwathren

[...]since a baby with "a man" sounds a bit wierd.

Indeed
Well my advice is just not to plan anything. Nowadays the baby should just be like an other product, which you "buy" when you want it, when it fits you well etc. I don't think that's the good way. You should just be open to the possibility of having a baby (and therefore stop using contraceptive) but without any real plan.

[Leyla]

PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS POST UNLESS YOU ARE REPLYING WITH PSYCHIC ADVICE.

[Nay]

I don't know if you have noticed but this site is primarily about Astral Projection, not for people to do readings on others.

If anyone was to come along and appease your demand, let it be known that the Astral Pulse is in no way affilitated with them doing so.

Sometimes in life we must make our own decisions, and not rely on the "psychics" to do it for us.

I say pray, meditate or whatever you do on this and go with your feelings.

Nay [^]

[Leyla]

I came here with an open heart, and I came here for guidance.

I must say I am shocked at the open hostility I am recieving, with such a delicate matter of asking advice about bringing a child into the world.  

"appease my demand?" Are you kidding? And now you tell people they aren't allowed to respond to me-  "the Astral Pulse will not be affiliated" or some such nonsense?

I'm in the divination section.

You can channel space-gekkos all day long, and prophesy the end of the world, but let someone come in with a normal request, and all hell breaks loose.

There is no excuse to treat someone so poorly.

This is just abuse, and on a site that's supposed to be for spiritual guidance it's hypocritical. It's wrong.

[Mustardseed]

Dear Leyla
I agree with you totally. I recently posted on a thread that was asking for signatures in support of gays and lesbians. My point and subsequent post, politely , was that maybe such a solicitation was off topic with the AP, and I was told that this was a free site and people could post whatever they wanted, yet you come with a very understandable request and are shunned......go figure.

As you may know I "Channel God" in another thread and I will be happy to try to "get" something for you. Most of my channelings have been very vaque so far , with a few exceptions, but who knows. You will find me in "Channeling God" thread. A brief understanding of the way I channel may be helpful for you. In short it seems that I often get things that has a special meaning to people personally and has to be somewhat interpreted by them. If you have time try to read some of the posts relating to this type of Channeling. I hope I can help.

Usually I take some time from a few hours to a few days to pray about the request, but if you have patience I will get to it.

Regards Mustardseed

[Leyla]

Thank you Mustardseed! []

I've been in the OBE section for about three or four years now.

I thought this section was for tarot readers, astrologers, and assorted psychics and channelers (like yourself.)

After checking around I see a lot of people who claim to have "THE REAL TRUTH!" about the government, the space gekkos, and the illuminati.  

Yet, amazingly, they can't answer practical questions like:

"How long will it take me to get pregnante?"
or "Will it be a Boy or a Girl?"

I have been loading up on parenting books, and running around for any good advise I can find: spiritual, psychic, and otherwise- Because that's what a good mother does!

[Gwathren]

quote:Originally posted by Leyla

I came here with an open heart, and I came here for guidance.
I must say I am shocked at the open hostility I am recieving, with such a delicate matter of asking advice about bringing a child into the world.  
There is no excuse to treat someone so poorly.
This is just abuse, and on a site that's supposed to be for spiritual guidance it's hypocritical. It's wrong.

Hell! You're shocked?? I don't know what I am then? You think my reply was hostile? No, it was not, but at the moment I'm really trying to control myself. If your question about you're baby is "is it a boy or a girl?"... Is that all that you have to ask?
OK, maybe NAY was a little hostile, but I am sure Nay didn't mean it. Your question: giving birth to a kid IS VERY PERSONAL. The only person you have to discuss it is yourself. Of course, meditate, and ask for advice, but YOU are the one who is responsible. There have been many questions, whether it is "a man" or "the man" who you want to have children with? You have not answered. If you actually think it is "a man"(which I still doubt heavily), our worlds are so roughly different, that even Devil and God would share some thoughts more than we do(OK I exaggerateed here a bit [])
I simply think, if you really think it is "a man", then do you know what the term "love" means?
Think with your own head, Leyla! That's where the answer is. Even an archangel can't tell you that answer rightly(because then everyone would ask their advice []

Please, do not regard this as "hostile", becaues it is not. Think (or even meditate) before you answer this. You saying that my thoughts are offensive makes you twice as offensive.

[Gwathren]

Oh, OK
The important note was really important[]
For the sake of everyone, call him "your man"
Much less complications.

[Nagual]

quote:I must say I am shocked at the open hostility

What hostility?  People just tried to help (in their way)...
Maybe next time try to state more clearly what you want.

quote:psychics are supposed to be there for advice in matters of marriage, career, family.

Why?

[Leyla]

Gwathren- I wasn't referring to you, I only meant that for the angry hostil people. [B)]

And he's a *very* special man. Important for lots of reasons. [] I have to be vague for anonymity's sake.

To anyone who is willing to be helpful- thank you I appreciate it. [] And if you're not here to be helpful, then there's no reason for you to be here at all.

I had to check here, just in case the powers-that-be had a message for me.

[Gwathren]

Not referring me?
Oh.
Good.
Then everyhting is OK.
You may continue[^][]

[Nay]

I wasn't being hostile at all..  I think asking such a personal question that should be between the two people whom are consider such a thing in life is just not the way to go.

I mean no offense to Mustardseed or any of the other channelers that are giving advise, but I do not see them as psychic, thus why I stepped in and said whatever answer you get we are not involved.

Bringing a child into this world is a very serious thing and I wouldn't give a hoot what others thought..they are not living your life.

I thought you got some good mature answers and you turned around and said..NO REPLIES, UNLESS YOU ARE REPLYING WITH PSYCHIC ADVICE.  well, seeing how I do not know of anyone being psychic on the forums I would say that you wouldn't get many answers.

Some might fancy themselves being psychic...so tread lightly for if you put your life into others hands you might come back with a real crappy life..[xx(]

If Mustardseed feels he can take the question on with no doubts about how it will effect your, the man and not to mention perhaps a baby's life...then fine, but my statement stands.

P.S.  You know how long it took me to actually get this post done?..about thirty minutes!!  My three year old...boy..is he demanding..[][]

Nay

[Leyla]

I have to say that I don't believe it when people here make bold claims tht they *never consulted with anyone* on an event so important as the birth of their own child. Seems a little reckless.
You mean to say you never talked the idea over with friends, relatives, or your own parents? You didn't buy a child-rearing book or two to see what you were up against? Not to mention a visit to your local astrologer to see when a good time for a conception/birth might be? I'm having it all done: lexigrams, numerology, you name it. If anything I want to be over-prepared.

Hush little baby don't you squall
Mama's gong to buy you a crystal ball
And if you still can't see beyond
Mama's going to buy you a magick wand
And if your aura needs a rest
Mama's going to take you on a vision quest
And if your futures still not clear
You'll still be the the most charmed baby of the year

[Nay]

I had a book given to me after I was pregnant, but that is it.  

I would never waste my money on someone who claims to tell me something that I can figure out on my own thru prayer or meditation.  

I will tell you one thing.  Save your money because if you do end up with a child you're gonna need it. [^]

Nay

[James S]

Hi Leyla,

I would consider in all things, but especially in matters as important and with concequences as far reaching as this, the best advice you could seek is from within yourself. Trust your own intuition!

I have met two psychics in my time - both being clairvoyant mediums. One was amazingly gifted, and was unnervingly accurate with the communications she experienced. The other was a complete fraud.

If I were in your situation with what I've already experienced of people claiming to be psychics, I would now be thinking that if I wanted advice from a psychic, one that I no idea of how truely accurate or reputable they were, I would have a 50/50 chance of getting some kind of reliable info.

Are those kind of odds acceptable for something as important as this?

I know you've gone through some confusing times in the past Leyla, but I also know from some of what you've told me that you have good intuition. Trust that intuition. It comes from your higher self, and your higher self is more interested in looking after your well being than anyone else.

All the best,
James.

[hysterix]

/*start rant

hahaha, wow I just read this thread, and I a few things come to mind.

Leyla, I can tell that at the present time you wouldnt be a good parent.

The main reason I see is that you take offense easily!  When the kid gets older, you'll have a hard time rasing it properly.

You say you've beean talking to "a man" and HE thinks you two should have a baby?  What do you think in any of this??

The mod's are being nice to you, you think they are being hostile?? Your crazy!

I can honestly say this is the most rediculous thing I have read in a long time.

I will end this rant with a few lasting things you must go by:

(1)For the love of god, never, ever procreate.

(2)Never not follow rule #1

(3)Never question what the mod's do, they are volunteer's here; what have you done for the site?

(4)Please dont procreate

Thank you

End rant*/

[Jenadots]

Hi Leyla.

I have no psychic advice -- just some common sense.  Why does this man want you to have a baby?  What is his role in it afterwards?

And what is your reason for wanting a baby?  

These are the important issues in this as a baby is a soul that you are responsible for.  You mention nothing about this man being good husband and father material. Will he be available to you and the child 24 hours a day, every day for 20 years?  

And yes, it is that kind of committment from both of you if the child is to grow up in a loving home.  

You clearly are not ready for this if you have to come to the internet and wonder if you should.  If this were the right thing for you, and the man, and most of all, the future child, you would have no doubts and no need to ask anyone - not your mother - not your best friend - and certainly not strangers or psychics.  

When you are truly ready to be a mother, you will know it.

In the meantime, your description of the situation sounds like you are having an affair with a married man or someone else equally unavailable who just wants you to get pregnant for reasons that have nothing to do with love or committment to you or to a child.

If you have to ask, consider finding somebody else and perhaps growing up a bit more before you bring a child into your life.

[Leyla]

THE TITLE OF MY POST WAS AN "ATTENTION GETTER" DESIGNED TO RAISE EYEBROWS:

The actual content of the post said- on the top line:

IMPORTANT NOTE: I am *NOT* asking anyone to make this decision for me.

It is a good idea to read posts before replying.

Hysterix- I am wondering what a toxic, caustic, "Simon Cowell" personality-type would be doing on this site, masquerading, and fraudulently trying to pass themselves off as a spiritual person.
(Wait- I see you are an 18 year old male. LMAO! Never mind.)