Can only speak for myself but here goes.
Reincarnation, karma but with a modification, no enlightenment beyond what ine already has (it just has to be realized).
2cents & L&L
jouni
i believe that if God so chose to make people live more than one life He certainly could, but then He could also just make that person live longer. :)
i believe they are all possibilities. except enlightenment. that's not so much an event that occurs as it is a process that people go through.
~kakkarot
What would be the purpose of knowlege of past lives, then?
The entire purpose of not only past lives, but eternal life, is to
LIVE, and LEARN, and LOVE
my definition of karma is not the "standard" definition but I think it is more correct than the usual "punishment and reward" type approach. Karma is simply the law that what you do, and who you are, will affect what comes into your life. It is not punishment or reward, it is simply the way the universe works. For example, if you're a mean, grumpy person, you're not gonna have very many friends. Not because God is punishing you, but because most people don't like hanging around grumpy people.
As Shawn said, the purpose of life is to live, learn, and love. And naturally, the longer we live, the better we learn how to do these things. It's a natural effect of being alive, having practice. So naturally as you are reincarnated you become wiser and more loving. This automatically generates more positive karma, because like attracts like. Enlightenment simply means that you have progressed so far that you are thoroughly enjoying the process of living, learning, and loving, and so everything you do naturally has only beneficial consequences for all concerned, including yourself. Hence no more negative karma. In my mind, if you believe in one you have to believe in all 3.
The only other option is that we are all eternal souls being consistently reincarnated for no purpose whatsoever. We never learn anything and we're just going round and round. I choose to believe differently.
ash
Odd question. I believe in all, or I'm inclined to believe, can't say I know unless some day I reach enlightenment myself. I'm also inclined to believe that the point to living life and being reincarnated is spiritual progress/evolution/cultivation of conciousness.
Depends on what actually is karma? And how do you define enlighenment? An illusion being lifted and you see spiritual answers in questions people tend to ask? Sounds like I am 'enlighted'!! Great! Unfortunately, 'enlighenment' also make u to see the 'light' in very very far end and backward. But most people could even see the 'light' at all![:(]. Much works need to be done before I even be able to reach the final light, probably through numberous reincarnations.
I am quite sure that Spirit_Gurl has quite a lot of reincarnations, more than usual human beings on earth and even me.
To answer all your questions in your mind, check out
http://thefreedomofchoice.com/
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Originally posted by bomohwkl
Depends on what actually is karma? And how do you define enlighenment? An illusion being lifted and you see spiritual answers in questions people tend to ask? Sounds like I am 'enlighted'!! Great! Unfortunately, 'enlighenment' also make u to see the 'light' in very very far end and backward. But most people could even see the 'light' at all![:(]. Much works need to be done before I even be able to reach the final light, probably through numberous reincarnations.
I am quite sure that Spirit_Gurl has quite a lot of reincarnations, more than usual human beings on earth and even me.
To answer all your questions in your mind, check out
http://thefreedomofchoice.com/
Hey all,
I always thought that Enlightened simply meant..Instructed, informed, unpredjudiced.
So, how can u not believe in Enlightenment?
Maybe I am just not as "Deep" as everyone else...[:(]
does anybody here believe in reincarnation, but NOT karma and enlightenment?