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LightBeam

I was thinking about randomness and how people typically think that things happen to them, but they don't know exactly how. They think it's all randomness, accidents, chance, luck or lack.
Quantum physics suggests otherwise per the observer effect. We happen to things, not the other way around.
In addition our experiences in the non-physical also support this notion. Everything is a precise orchestration, and randomness is a true illusion. We keep aligning to every frame according to how our expression perceives itself at that moment. Every frame exists (infinite number). How stories are formed? By moving our focus from frame to frame to frame to frame... and create a motion picture. A very unique motion picture, with no other alike. The order we chose to assemble the frames is also infinite, that's why there are infinite versions of each expression. We as focus can align to any frame and become that version. There is no linearity. We become different versions the moment we change frames. And that can happen every second (per our time perception). Frames are static (timelessness), and in order for us to experience movement and a story we have to keep changing our focus. The structure of existence/the frames never change. But they can be experienced in infinite number of ways, and that's how creation is in a state of becoming, experiencing itself from infinite points of view. 

If there was a true randomness, then creation would have no unconditional love as a fundament nor intelligence. If energy is energy, then the fundamental laws apply to everything, regardless how they may be perceived via various simulations.

"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

Frostytraveler

#1
It's easy to view life at times as being mere participants along for the ride engulfed in Chaos Theory's random events/circumstances. But... then the synchronicities add up and you start to look at things as much beyond coincidence. Yes, the observer effect/double slit experiment proves "something" is going on with consciousness beyond mere chaos/chance as expected outcomes per physics bring unexpected results. The theory of Quantum Entanglement adds to that as distant particles are linked together by a quantum field. As observing one particle can impact the other. This factor brings much meaning beyond the physical world as we/science knows it. This deflates Chaos Theory as being the prominent force influencing our lives as it deflates the belief that everything is random, unconnected and by chance.

Not sure if you mean that where the frames of life events around us may not change or be beyond our control, but the way we choose to perceive and experience them do. That makes sense to me vs the thought that we have the power to control everything (which clearly we do not) otherwise the world would be a far better place.
"Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." Bruce Lee

LightBeam

#2
Thanks, Frosty! Interesting you mentioned control, because this is another curious topic. In my view if what we want and what we actually believe are in contradiction then it seems we dont have control. But the way our expressions move from one frame to another is by belief and not want. Technically we control our experiences, but the mechanism of control is not what we think.
There is added complexity though. When all that is starts scaling down to narrow its focus to be able to express itself in particular ways, it knows that with each "scale down" limitations of perception are placed for specific purposes to form a specific expression/personality. But the control and choices are still there coming from that highest point of view of consciousness. The scaling down goes from all that is to oversoul family clusters, to individual oversoul, to singular individualized personalities. Between these scales there may be many more, but I think these are the main bases of the structure. The smaller the scale the more the imposed limitations. Whitin the frame of limitations, consciousness choses  based on the limiting beliefs it has assumed, but it has the free will to move within these "borders" in any way it choses and to  play with beliefs, analyze them, change them.  When the play is over (chosen on a higher level) that expression of consciousness starts scaling back out with widened focus. The scaling is a matter of focus (widening or narrowing), and it's a simulation (creates a perception of separation for the purposes of expressions), but these expressions are never truly separated.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

Tak

#3
Great topic, Lightbeam! As always. You guys took it more towards the side of quantum physics, and I feel that to understand this a bit better, it would be great to create some kind of diagram to visualize the idea better, although I saw some videos online that explain these theories very well.

The books I've been reading by Dolores Cannon illustrate these concepts quite well, and as she also says, there's information that can be a deadly poison for those who aren't prepared to receive it. I only now start to understand why the nature of reality has been hidden from the masses for millennia. I don't think it's right to hide things or for humanity to live in ignorance, but some information could be so shocking that many people might prefer to think that everything that happens in their lives is the result of chance, bad luck, or chaos theory, because they don't like to take responsibility for their actions or thoughts and feel more comfortable feeling like victims of circumstance. Or, as you also mention, many difficult experiences are created from a higher plane for specific learning purposes of that consciousness, many of which are aberrant. How do you tell someone who's been raped or tortured that they themselves created those circumstances from a higher plane to learn? I think they would feel even worse; it would be like poison. Perhaps for others, it could be the opposite, and they might understand the situation better to change it, but I think for most people, it would be simply unacceptable, and who can blame them? It's too much suffering.
That's why I'm not recommending books on these topics to anyone who isn't truly committed to understanding the structure of reality better, although, as we always mention, it can only be discovered through personal experience and reaching our own conclusions.

Our friend Tides has shared many times here, even with photos, amazing synchronicities that really make one recognize how a living and intelligent force around us moves, putting everything in its place. I also experience many synchronicities that show me that even what seems insignificant is perfectly placed in the right spot at the right time. For example, at work, I was reading the name Eduard on the system, and a person in the hall mentioned the name Eduard to a friend at the same time I was reading it silently, exactly at that instant. It wasn't that they were referring to the same person I was reading about; it was just a random synchronicity, both mentioning the name Eduard. This showed me that everything is perfectly fitted together like a puzzle, there are no mistakes, and even a feather falling had to do it that way at that particular moment. I see these "coincidences" in infinite examples that would tire me to write.

I've already understood that everything is as it should be, but that doesn't mean it can't be changed. As you say, our perception creates our reality, and so do our thoughts and will. Rather than trying to control what's happening around us, I think it's better to change how we perceive things from within, and the outside will change as a consequence. Simply understanding.

These are topics with so many nuances that it's hard to reach a conclusion. But what's important is knowing that behind everything is the force of love and good will playing a perfect symphony.
.~Exploring the Wonders of Consciousness~.

LightBeam

#4
Thank you, Tak, beautifully explained. There are indeed many, many nuances. We are not able to comprehend them all and we may not be meant to while in character. We also have to be at peace with that and just flow with the waves of synchronicities with gratitude and love. We will know when we need to know. You mentioned feather falling. Just last weekend I was sitting by the local lake. There were many trees around me and some leaves were falling. They really drew my attention. I was watching the leaves fall one by one, and I felt nature so close, I was feeling its pulse and life dynamics. The trees were alive. The leaves were like the hairs on our heads, they fall every day and new ones grow. I was thinking of the energy transformation. Nothing is ever lost, just transformed from one form to another. Every leaf fall was happening just at the right time. I felt the perfect coherence of energy in all its forms everywhere in the multiverse, like one breathing organism.

What Dolores had written makes total sense. It's not about someone controlling knowledge and suppressing information. Some of the videos online keep judging and blaming, but they are missing the point. Anything we create to challenge us is created on purpose. For example if there is a One World Order at this very moment as we speak here on Earth, all of us collectively have created it not because of our stupidity or lack of learning abilities but because we wanted to set up a challenge to see how we overcome it. There is nothing to be judged. If we happen to pass the tests, yay for us, we move on to the next.  If we appear to have difficulties passing a test, not to worry, we have eternity to keep trying. Some tests are difficult. There should be no blame of lack of abilities. We unveil in one way or another knowledge in stages and if we are not ready to receive we create barriers in many forms, like church or government control. At the end it's all well orchestrated per our needs and timing.
   
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

Adrian

#5
Quote from: LightBeam on July 20, 2025, 23:31:35I was thinking about randomness and how people typically think that things happen to them, but they don't know exactly how. They think it's all randomness, accidents, chance, luck or lack.
Quantum physics suggests otherwise per the observer effect. We happen to things, not the other way around.
In addition our experiences in the non-physical also support this notion. Everything is a precise orchestration, and randomness is a true illusion. We keep aligning to every frame according to how our expression perceives itself at that moment. Every frame exists (infinite number). How stories are formed? By moving our focus from frame to frame to frame to frame... and create a motion picture. A very unique motion picture, with no other alike. The order we chose to assemble the frames is also infinite, that's why there are infinite versions of each expression. We as focus can align to any frame and become that version. There is no linearity. We become different versions the moment we change frames. And that can happen every second (per our time perception). Frames are static (timelessness), and in order for us to experience movement and a story we have to keep changing our focus. The structure of existence/the frames never change. But they can be experienced in infinite number of ways, and that's how creation is in a state of becoming, experiencing itself from infinite points of view. 

If there was a true randomness, then creation would have no unconditional love as a fundament nor intelligence. If energy is energy, then the fundamental laws apply to everything, regardless how they may be perceived via various simulations.


Randomness and chaos cannot possibly exist, otherwise the entire Universe would collapse in an instant. The Universe, The All, is immutable and Eternally Perfect, in the Now. Therefore as you say LB, randomness and chaos are an illusory aspect of the simulation as a whole. Similarly, "accidents", "chance", "luck" etc. are an equally illusory projection of the ego mind. And again, as we have discussed previously here, everything, everyone and every event is Perfect, as they begin, end and are sustained by Perfection - it is ALL of Source, God.

I wrote a long article many years ago about how humans experience their environment and events, I won't reproduce the entire article here but basically it is all about a mind projected interplay between the conscious and subconscious spheres of the mind and sensory inputs of the five physical senses, which together produce the illusion that everything is solid, material, tangible etc. Of course, as we have often discussed, it is all an illusion, or simulation originating from the personal and collective projections of the mind, the persistency of which is determined by thoughts, feelings and emotions and strength of belief. In the article I called this an "Experiential Loop" in accordance with the "Principle of Expression".  I like quantum mechanics, and in particular "superposition" as a  model for this, as LB mentioned, the "observer effect", whereby something only appears to exist in the moment it is observed, and when the observation is withdrawn, energy reverts back from nominal particle form back to native waveform. Also, we hear people speak of such erroneous topics as "multiverses", "parallel universes" "timelines" etc., none of which can possibly exist, except as an illusion. From the quantum perspective of superposition, we live in a Universe of infinite possibilities. If something can be imagined, then it already exists  When Mind focusses on an imagined possibility the quantum potential first becomes a probability, and with sustained focus backed by belief becomes experience. When the focus is withdrawn, it dissipates back to native waveform This is much more apparent for example in the Astral which is at a much higher vibratory frequency. And yes, there is and can be no linearity or sequentiality, therefore timelines, past lives, reincarnation cannot and do not exist.

Very interesting topic, and enjoying all the thoughts and observations by everyone.
The mind says there is nothing beyond the physical world; the HEART says there is, and I've been there many times ~ Rumi

https://ourultimatereality.com/

tides2dust

#6
 :-) <3

Nice introspection, everyone. I agree with you Tak, more important than explaining how you understand the nature of reality is whether or not you choose to give Love to someone in need. In the case of someone whose been raped, telling them they created the moment as an opportunity to learn is most definitely not something you should say to anyone that has endured such brutality. That would be heartless, unwise and the opposite of what real understanding has to offer all of us.

I wanted to share my opinion too.
A wise woman had this to say, just this morning:

"I imagine that each moment in time, for all things, is held in the Divine Mind."

From the feather drop, to the sound of the birds as you walk through nature, to the dogs barking off in the distance, from the curious glance of a baby... All things are known and are, "but shadows of Paradise Reality."

The now is not some intangible unloving experience. The now is a Living and Loving Personality. It is highly intelligent, and it is teaching us in every moment.

It takes many forms, it is material and immaterial. Having recently played with an AI music generator, I was prompted to go back and look at some of my older poems... So I wanted to share one here with you guys written back in July of 2022. Incredible that I'd stumble upon it almost three years later and find inspiration... All while being prompted with repeating 3's in the World around me.

Realize

Recognize me in Every Form...
Change is the only constant
And you were born in a land of gradual mutation
Beyond this are speeds unrecognizable at this time
Recognize me in Every Form...
Change is the only constant...
A man once said this, later villified Satan incarnate
Yet if these words spill off an angels lips
You cling to them like the gospel
And in you are the things of angels and demons...
Always changing, but those who tasked themselves
of finding me in every form
are rewarded paradise within,
a place no delayed perception can ever fulfill
for even in the land of milk and honey
does the milk spoil and the honey crystalize
But in that change, an array of life dazzles before you
A wonder that brings you to Me
And those who task themselves to find me
Go on Living, even when they themselves are no longer recognizable



Actually, change is not the only constant. In my opinion, Love is Eternal. And so, this poem was intentional and that it was meant to highlight both change as a constant *and the reward- God as Love Eternal. Eternally Present...

So... I do not think your Eduard synchronicity was random. It was the now, as a Loving personality bringing you this alignment. It was brought into your awareness, whereas it might have escaped someone else's. And even if we choose to explore the depths of these alignments- we may never realize their full potential in this lifetime. Yet,

This highly intelligent, very real Personality will guide you- no matter your lens, your biases, your perceptions. It is patient, it is enduring...

I do enjoy these opportunities to share here, where we reside currently with our own understanding. In the case of someone who has been brutalized... More important than trying to define Reality, Is having Faith that this Loving Intelligence, as all that is- within us and around us, is capable of guiding this person... Whether their understanding of these matters is complete, or not- have Faith that God as this Loving Intelligence will make known what is needed, and it will be Perfect as Eternal Eventuality.

More, and more- the Now, as a Loving and Living Reality is showing me the importance of feeling the presence, surrendering to the sensation and placing Faith in its vibration. Faith that what is guiding me is more intelligent than what my human mind has been able to thus far articulate... And in learning to recognize these moments, I am better aligned to Live and Serve *With Love.

Los Solares Abrazan

LightBeam

As far as traumatic events go, the reasons get revealed to the soul when it's appropriate and how it's appropriate. As we mentioned there are so many nuances and as limiting characters we may not understand until we scale back to a larger point of view.

We've all had nightmare dreams, right? What happens when we wake up? we go, OMG what a nightmare, I'm glad it was just a dream. And we go about our day without any trauma and soon forget, at least for most people. The same happens with the soul when the physical body dies. The soul says, wow, what a crazy dream that was.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

Frostytraveler

#8
Quote from: LightBeam on July 22, 2025, 18:59:00The same happens with the soul when the physical body dies. The soul says, wow, what a crazy dream that was.

These two sentences really hit home with me LB. When I have been out of body, especially in the Astral, I have engaged myself in a very detailed comparison of the two realms/dimensions. Most notably stating "what if this Astral realm (that I was currently in) was the real realm, and the other (our heavy 3D realm) was the illusionary dream? I was in the presence of a deceased loved one when this occurred and the feeling  I was overcome with was deeply powerful and had much meaning. I can only imagine this is exactly what many will feel when they pass on as you have stated. What's most interesting is some of us can experience the same thing while living. Add to this the overwhelming feeling of love that is often present in upper realm, and it's easy for one to conclude that is our real "home".
"Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." Bruce Lee

LightBeam

Yes, Frosty, one time in the beginning of my APs, I stayed for so long there having fun that at one point I asked why I wasn't snapping back when thinking about my body. I thought that my physical body may have died but I had not a single care that this may have been a possibility. That life was faded and insignificant, it was like I was even forgetting about it, because during the AP I felt so much more, so expanded. Not that I lost a personality part but I was that and so much more, and many more lives awareness at the same time, incredible freedom, love  and power.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

Adrian

#10
This is so true. It is unfortunate that so many on Earth fear "death" to the point of affecting how they experience their day to day lives. This is reinforced by gloomy funerals where people gather together to "mourn the dead", when in reality they are not mourning the dead, but their own feeling of "loss" that the person is no longer physically present for them to enjoy, while also reminding them that one day it will be them that people mourn. I have in the past suggested to those who have "lost" someone close that they could be joyful that the person has successfully completed their mission on Earth and now reunited with pre-deceased relatives enjoying a life far better than it ever could be on Earth. The remarks usually had the opposite affect, and I was accused of being unsympathetic etc. I have only ever been to one funeral and people thought I was not sad and mournful enough - actually I was very happy for the person who had transitioned. As Jesus said - "let the dead bury their dead". These are some of the reasons why I have written extensively, including several chapters in my book, about the true, nature of death, the transition to the Astral and what to expect, the Astral realms etc.. I also wrote about Astral Projection, OBE etc to show people that they could experience "life after death" while still here on Earth to prove for themselves that life continues beyond the limitations and confines of the physical body. This is also a reason I founded this very forum 23 years ago, during which time I hope it has helped many people overcome fear of death, and to prove it for themselves.

"No one looks back and regrets leaving this world. What's regretted is how real we thought it was." ~ Rumi
The mind says there is nothing beyond the physical world; the HEART says there is, and I've been there many times ~ Rumi

https://ourultimatereality.com/

Frostytraveler

Quote from: LightBeam on July 23, 2025, 01:26:23Yes, Frosty, one time in the beginning of my APs, I stayed for so long there having fun that at one point I asked why I wasn't snapping back when thinking about my body. I thought that my physical body may have died but I had not a single care that this may have been a possibility. That life was faded and insignificant, it was like I was even forgetting about it, because during the AP I felt so much more, so expanded. Not that I lost a personality part but I was that and so much more, and many more lives awareness at the same time, incredible freedom, love  and power.

Exactly! While in the other realm life, I do not miss the physical at all, in fact it's disappointing to return. When returning from a beautiful experience, there is an adjustment phase. We come to the reality of things that we are here temporarily for a bigger purpose that serves the other realm our true home and the Divine. The feeling of being utterly content, having not a worry or concern. happy, complete and feeling such unconditional love makes going back difficult. As Adrian said "no one looks back and regrets leaving this world".
"Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." Bruce Lee

tides2dust

Hi Adrian,

I am happy you started this forum. Its how I found some incredible people who I think belong to a similar family/group. I recently loss my Pappy, but he did live a full life. The part that hurt was learning his transition was long and painful, and watching how it effected his siblings.

In the case of loss, sometimes it's better to just be there for someone when the time is right than to try and counsel with words. My childhood friend died before his parents. And just recently, we know a Father who lost his little girl to the flood while attending Camp Mystic. The best thing to come from that was how many people came to the aid of the family, and also letting them have their time alone too. It was the love shared more than what could be said. Because sometimes words aren't enough. And we will be there for the family to give sympathy and care, with Faith in God as the unique counselor for this unique situation-

I do believe life goes on- and it is a learning process for all of us, even those who say they do not fear death. Love itself is the guide. I don't think you were being unsympathetic. My friend lost his Father recently and he was the only one not sad at the funeral. He explained to me how he got to talk to his father while witnessing him on the embalming table. In that moment he suddenly felt his Fathers presence everywhere around him and he was filled with peace.

I believe learning how to address these energies is also a part of our learning with Love. Even Yoganandas master showed a bit of fear from the release of his human body at the time of his "death." Though, he faced it courageously and with eyes opened. It was described as a bird afraid to leave its cage.

I believe Love has helped me recognize the life behind the shadow, though I don't have answers for others... And while I am not ready to die, still afraid of death, I am noticing more and more courage as as result of placing Faith in this living intelligence- who teaches me Life beyond life. 
Los Solares Abrazan