Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: kakkarot on March 18, 2003, 15:18:15
Post by: kakkarot on March 18, 2003, 15:18:15
yeah, it's kinda like intuition. except it gives you a mental response rather than a spiritual response. although some people call it the "higher self", or a spirit guide, or any number of other things.
when i'm going to the c-train each day i'll get a sense of whether i'll be able to get to the station in time to catch it, or if i'll have to run to be able to make it in time, or if i just can't make it in time no matter how fast i run. helps me out a lot. [:D]
~kakkarot
when i'm going to the c-train each day i'll get a sense of whether i'll be able to get to the station in time to catch it, or if i'll have to run to be able to make it in time, or if i just can't make it in time no matter how fast i run. helps me out a lot. [:D]
~kakkarot
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: Parmenion on March 18, 2003, 18:57:22
Post by: Parmenion on March 18, 2003, 18:57:22
Yup, I have been using the 'internal alarm clock' for a while now. Its definately a subject that deserves exploration.
Parmenion
Parmenion
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: no_leaf_clover on March 18, 2003, 19:40:32
Post by: no_leaf_clover on March 18, 2003, 19:40:32
thanks for the link! this board has to be the most helpful board on earth man..
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: Squeek on March 18, 2003, 19:57:42
Post by: Squeek on March 18, 2003, 19:57:42
Thanks. I love to help people out without knowing I'm helping at all.
So, back to my original question at hand. Does anybody know how to "listen" to the replies at any time? In the stories, their subconsciouses tell them things that they find odd during the course of the day. I really want to, because when it does for them, they help others out.
Please? Any thoughts? Thankies.
So, back to my original question at hand. Does anybody know how to "listen" to the replies at any time? In the stories, their subconsciouses tell them things that they find odd during the course of the day. I really want to, because when it does for them, they help others out.
Please? Any thoughts? Thankies.
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: kakkarot on March 18, 2003, 21:44:14
Post by: kakkarot on March 18, 2003, 21:44:14
keep monitoring your mind and wait until you start feeling like you should do something that you aren't thinking about doing. like if you are walking down a street and you get the sudden inclination to turn around, turn around and then capture (don't let it fade) and analyze the thought, in your mind.
~kakkarot
~kakkarot
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: cainam_nazier on March 19, 2003, 00:12:48
Post by: cainam_nazier on March 19, 2003, 00:12:48
Okay I must say this only because I found it really funny.
So I was reading the article and all. I got down to the "Right Now" section and started scratching my chin and then read, "..giving you a status report on a cut you have on your leg, or telling you to"scratch that itch"."
It was funny because as soon as I read it I realized what I was doing and stopped. I kinda took a moment to look and laugh at myslef.
So I was reading the article and all. I got down to the "Right Now" section and started scratching my chin and then read, "..giving you a status report on a cut you have on your leg, or telling you to"scratch that itch"."
It was funny because as soon as I read it I realized what I was doing and stopped. I kinda took a moment to look and laugh at myslef.
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: Secretseeress on March 19, 2003, 07:14:17
Post by: Secretseeress on March 19, 2003, 07:14:17
Hi, Squeek,
You may be unable to hear your replies as they are much quieter than your minds internal chatter. You may find it useful to try to still your mind for a few minutes to allow you to hear the more subtle subconscious influences. There are many different techniques to do this but basically just to be aware of what you are saying to yourself and try to pause for a moment when you come to the end of each thought, making the pause a little longer each time.
Hope this helps,
Love and Light,
Secretseeress.
You may be unable to hear your replies as they are much quieter than your minds internal chatter. You may find it useful to try to still your mind for a few minutes to allow you to hear the more subtle subconscious influences. There are many different techniques to do this but basically just to be aware of what you are saying to yourself and try to pause for a moment when you come to the end of each thought, making the pause a little longer each time.
Hope this helps,
Love and Light,
Secretseeress.
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: Ash on March 19, 2003, 08:03:07
Post by: Ash on March 19, 2003, 08:03:07
I find if a message is important it will tend to repeat itself. So yeah, monitor your thoughts and if you get any "incongruent" thoughts or images, take a note and then let them go. If the same image keeps repeating itself, then it is probably important in some way. In my experience, though, they can be either literally true or else metaphorically true. Sometimes it talks in symbols and emotions that are a lot like dreams.
A lot of the time (at least with me, since I'm not that good at it) I will think my thoughts are about something and actually they are intuitive messages about something else.
I'll give you a couple of examples of things that have happened with me.
I was giving a Reiki treatment to a woman once, and nothing was happening. I mean usually I feel some sort of energy moving, or I get a feeling about the person, or something. But absolutely nothing was happening. I kept thinking "What am I doing wrong? There is absolutely nothing happening here. I must have screwed something up or I must not be paying attention. It's like I'm not even giving a Reiki treatment. It's like this person isn't even here" So I kept trying to concentrate harder and move more energy and the whole time I couldn't feel anything. The thoughts kept going "It's like this person's not even here. It's like she's invisible." So then, I realized this might actually be a message. I felt pretty silly, but I asked her "Do you ever feel like you're invisible?" And it turned out this was exactly how she felt her whole life. It sparked a long discussion that was very beneficial to both of us. What seemed like my own error was actually my subconscious mind telling me something very specific.
Another time, doing Reiki again, among the many thoughts in my head, I got an image of a little girl with a stuffed animal, a horse. Again I didn't pay much attention to it, but it kept coming back. The thing was, the woman I was working on had very dark hair, but the little girl in my mind was blonde. It kept coming back so eventually I asked her if she used to have a horse and she said no, so I felt stupid and I let the subject drop. I thought I was tuning in to random mental garbage. Then five minutes later she told me she suddenly remembered about her stuffed horse, that was her favorite toy, but she had totally forgotten about it for years. And her hair used to be much lighter when she was a child.
So listen, acknowledge, and have trust. Sometimes you might be wrong. Sometimes you might be right, but there will be no way to verify it, or if you're dealing with another person that person might not realize you're right. But the more faith you put in repeating subconscious messages, the more accurate they will become, I think.
A lot of the time (at least with me, since I'm not that good at it) I will think my thoughts are about something and actually they are intuitive messages about something else.
I'll give you a couple of examples of things that have happened with me.
I was giving a Reiki treatment to a woman once, and nothing was happening. I mean usually I feel some sort of energy moving, or I get a feeling about the person, or something. But absolutely nothing was happening. I kept thinking "What am I doing wrong? There is absolutely nothing happening here. I must have screwed something up or I must not be paying attention. It's like I'm not even giving a Reiki treatment. It's like this person isn't even here" So I kept trying to concentrate harder and move more energy and the whole time I couldn't feel anything. The thoughts kept going "It's like this person's not even here. It's like she's invisible." So then, I realized this might actually be a message. I felt pretty silly, but I asked her "Do you ever feel like you're invisible?" And it turned out this was exactly how she felt her whole life. It sparked a long discussion that was very beneficial to both of us. What seemed like my own error was actually my subconscious mind telling me something very specific.
Another time, doing Reiki again, among the many thoughts in my head, I got an image of a little girl with a stuffed animal, a horse. Again I didn't pay much attention to it, but it kept coming back. The thing was, the woman I was working on had very dark hair, but the little girl in my mind was blonde. It kept coming back so eventually I asked her if she used to have a horse and she said no, so I felt stupid and I let the subject drop. I thought I was tuning in to random mental garbage. Then five minutes later she told me she suddenly remembered about her stuffed horse, that was her favorite toy, but she had totally forgotten about it for years. And her hair used to be much lighter when she was a child.
So listen, acknowledge, and have trust. Sometimes you might be wrong. Sometimes you might be right, but there will be no way to verify it, or if you're dealing with another person that person might not realize you're right. But the more faith you put in repeating subconscious messages, the more accurate they will become, I think.
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: Squeek on March 20, 2003, 13:03:24
Post by: Squeek on March 20, 2003, 13:03:24
I think I may have heard "him" for the first time today...
I was walking home from school in the rain without a coat or an umbrella in my t-shirt [8D] Anyways.... I saw the storm drains had been clogged along the way, and thought I may have heard "him" tell me to fix it since nobody else would. When I got to my street, It was so bad that the water was almost up onto the road (there is a 5 foot dirt "wall" before the road meets the drain. I decided, even though the rain was picking up, that I would clear that drain. I got down as close as I could and threw out the wet leaves that were blocking the water's path. It took me a good 15 minutes, but I returned the water flow to normal. I felt good that I had helped my community afterwards.
Just more insight from the ever-popular...
~Squeek
I was walking home from school in the rain without a coat or an umbrella in my t-shirt [8D] Anyways.... I saw the storm drains had been clogged along the way, and thought I may have heard "him" tell me to fix it since nobody else would. When I got to my street, It was so bad that the water was almost up onto the road (there is a 5 foot dirt "wall" before the road meets the drain. I decided, even though the rain was picking up, that I would clear that drain. I got down as close as I could and threw out the wet leaves that were blocking the water's path. It took me a good 15 minutes, but I returned the water flow to normal. I felt good that I had helped my community afterwards.
Just more insight from the ever-popular...
~Squeek
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: kakkarot on March 20, 2003, 17:22:33
Post by: kakkarot on March 20, 2003, 17:22:33
well, good job squeek.
but i think i'll just step in here and make a nuicanse (sp?) of myself by saying: that may not have been your subconscious. it may have been your conscience. i find that my conscience is constantly nagging me to do good things for no reason (the whole sense of "doing the right thing"), while the subconscious will "tug" me to do certain/specific things, which have nothing to do with morals.
~kakkarot
but i think i'll just step in here and make a nuicanse (sp?) of myself by saying: that may not have been your subconscious. it may have been your conscience. i find that my conscience is constantly nagging me to do good things for no reason (the whole sense of "doing the right thing"), while the subconscious will "tug" me to do certain/specific things, which have nothing to do with morals.
~kakkarot
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: TheSeeker on March 21, 2003, 09:00:53
Post by: TheSeeker on March 21, 2003, 09:00:53
As this is my first post, I would like to say hello, so, Hello Everyone. I just wanted to say if you were more interested in this topic you should do some research on dowsing rods and pendulums. I tried to do some quick research to find an example on the web, here is an ok one. http://healing.about.com/library/uc_dowsing_0202.htm (not sure how to post links here).
I read about it in a book, but don't remember which one, sorry.
I read about it in a book, but don't remember which one, sorry.
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: auraseer on March 22, 2003, 04:33:46
Post by: auraseer on March 22, 2003, 04:33:46
Hi,
Heres my experience: In the school maths lesson on friday, we did some puzzles on some sheets. Like you have to put numbers in the circles to make the right amount on each line, only using each number once. Anyway, I was stuck on one particular, and the night before I read the article (at psipog.net). So I thought "why not?". So I thought deep into my mind "Am I doing this right?". And I had this positive feeling throughout my body. Its hard to explain. So I looked at a cricle where I wanted a number for, and asked "What is this one?". Then I had a very quick vision of the number '4'. So I put it down. I did this for every single one and I got it right.
I havent tried the sub-clock yet, but ill try it tonight.
Cya,
James.
Heres my experience: In the school maths lesson on friday, we did some puzzles on some sheets. Like you have to put numbers in the circles to make the right amount on each line, only using each number once. Anyway, I was stuck on one particular, and the night before I read the article (at psipog.net). So I thought "why not?". So I thought deep into my mind "Am I doing this right?". And I had this positive feeling throughout my body. Its hard to explain. So I looked at a cricle where I wanted a number for, and asked "What is this one?". Then I had a very quick vision of the number '4'. So I put it down. I did this for every single one and I got it right.
I havent tried the sub-clock yet, but ill try it tonight.
Cya,
James.
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: quant on March 22, 2003, 08:57:40
Post by: quant on March 22, 2003, 08:57:40
Nice work auraseeers.
Mine is useless, i get absolutely when i try to talk to my subconscious, infact, sometimes i notice my conscious mind answering my questions just by making it up.
Any suggestions?
Mine is useless, i get absolutely when i try to talk to my subconscious, infact, sometimes i notice my conscious mind answering my questions just by making it up.
Any suggestions?
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: Squeek on March 22, 2003, 13:11:18
Post by: Squeek on March 22, 2003, 13:11:18
I noticed this too. It's very very hard to shut your mind up, but I can do that step...the hard part is "hearing" the reply.
Here's what I did once. While my eyes were shut, I looked up. That's like, it. Somehow it stopped alot of thoughts from interfering... Hopefully this will work for you.
And about the sub-clock dealie, it worked again for me. It also worked when I asked "him" when my parents yould come to wake me up (I like to just lie in bed after I wake up). "he" told me 10:30, so I waited till 10:30. At 10:29, my mom comes in and tells me to get ready for my basketball game (which we won...Championship game too!)
Hope it works for you all
~Squeek
Here's what I did once. While my eyes were shut, I looked up. That's like, it. Somehow it stopped alot of thoughts from interfering... Hopefully this will work for you.
And about the sub-clock dealie, it worked again for me. It also worked when I asked "him" when my parents yould come to wake me up (I like to just lie in bed after I wake up). "he" told me 10:30, so I waited till 10:30. At 10:29, my mom comes in and tells me to get ready for my basketball game (which we won...Championship game too!)
Hope it works for you all
~Squeek
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: panabelle on March 22, 2003, 17:23:06
Post by: panabelle on March 22, 2003, 17:23:06
<hums tune from Smash Mouth's "I'm a Believer">
Whoa. This is cool.
I just read the article ten minutes ago, was fascinated by it, printed it, then went about my business. I got up to get a snack, thinking about this and trying it out a little (no results). I sat back at the computer and browsed for about five minutes. I was playing a song while I browsed, and all of a sudden I think out of the blue, "Was that the phone?" (We have a phone by our computer, but the ringer is broken so I hear it from the kitchen.) Anyway, I pause the song and listen for a minute. No ringing. I unpause the song and continue fooling around on the computer. After about ten seconds, I think, "OK, I'm sure that was the phone." I turn off the song and pick up the phone, only to hear the dial tone. I shrug, and go back to what I was doing. I kept feeling like I should get the phone even though it wasn't ringing.
Fifteen seconds later the phone rang. [:O]
What do you think? Beginnings of listening to subconscious, or coincidence? Just curious...I thought it was cool. [:D]
Whoa. This is cool.
I just read the article ten minutes ago, was fascinated by it, printed it, then went about my business. I got up to get a snack, thinking about this and trying it out a little (no results). I sat back at the computer and browsed for about five minutes. I was playing a song while I browsed, and all of a sudden I think out of the blue, "Was that the phone?" (We have a phone by our computer, but the ringer is broken so I hear it from the kitchen.) Anyway, I pause the song and listen for a minute. No ringing. I unpause the song and continue fooling around on the computer. After about ten seconds, I think, "OK, I'm sure that was the phone." I turn off the song and pick up the phone, only to hear the dial tone. I shrug, and go back to what I was doing. I kept feeling like I should get the phone even though it wasn't ringing.
Fifteen seconds later the phone rang. [:O]
What do you think? Beginnings of listening to subconscious, or coincidence? Just curious...I thought it was cool. [:D]
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: kakkarot on March 22, 2003, 19:51:50
Post by: kakkarot on March 22, 2003, 19:51:50
"Beginnings of listening to subconscious". wow, i think it's amazing that you are both doing so well so quickly. congradulations for you.
just to relate another "story", i sometimes will be standing on a street corner waiting for the street lights to change from red to green, but i'll have my eyes closed. i'll even be completely lost in thought, and yet i still look up directly at the light everytime that it changes from red to green. before the cars start moving. even if there are no cars there (ie, no way of me to subconsciously hear the vehicles that are going the other way stop and just realize that i should be going now.) useful, since i walk a lot.
~kakkarot
just to relate another "story", i sometimes will be standing on a street corner waiting for the street lights to change from red to green, but i'll have my eyes closed. i'll even be completely lost in thought, and yet i still look up directly at the light everytime that it changes from red to green. before the cars start moving. even if there are no cars there (ie, no way of me to subconsciously hear the vehicles that are going the other way stop and just realize that i should be going now.) useful, since i walk a lot.
~kakkarot
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: Squeek on March 22, 2003, 20:23:40
Post by: Squeek on March 22, 2003, 20:23:40
I walk .... rarely. I also have no idea how I could apply this to when I was actually DOING something.
I really wish I could apply anything I do at my nighttime sessions to real life situatations. Really. Alot.
PS : Kakkarot man, you almost have 1,000 posts. Are you trying to catch up with Tom?
I really wish I could apply anything I do at my nighttime sessions to real life situatations. Really. Alot.
PS : Kakkarot man, you almost have 1,000 posts. Are you trying to catch up with Tom?
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: kakkarot on March 22, 2003, 20:42:27
Post by: kakkarot on March 22, 2003, 20:42:27
"PS : Kakkarot man, you almost have 1,000 posts. Are you trying to catch up with Tom?" oh my god, i DO! i never realized. thanks for pointing that out.
cool, i could be the next ... erm... what rank was it again? admiral? no. i don't remember.
but anyway. "I really wish I could apply anything I do at my nighttime sessions to real life situatations." well then, train in real life situations. don't let your training become just an aspect of your life that is distinct from your day-to-day life. make your day-to-day life part of your training. that's what i used to do, and what i'll do again.
~kakkarot
cool, i could be the next ... erm... what rank was it again? admiral? no. i don't remember.
but anyway. "I really wish I could apply anything I do at my nighttime sessions to real life situatations." well then, train in real life situations. don't let your training become just an aspect of your life that is distinct from your day-to-day life. make your day-to-day life part of your training. that's what i used to do, and what i'll do again.
~kakkarot
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: Squeek on March 22, 2003, 22:41:14
Post by: Squeek on March 22, 2003, 22:41:14
Ok...
How?
How?
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: panabelle on March 23, 2003, 08:40:37
Post by: panabelle on March 23, 2003, 08:40:37
Well, whenever I hurt myself (like last night when I nearly gave myself a concussion with a bag of unpopped popcorn - don't ask[:D]) I just put my hands on my head, fiddled around with my energy for a minute, and I walked away without a splitting headache. [|)] Useful...
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: Thegreensaber on March 28, 2003, 14:41:02
Post by: Thegreensaber on March 28, 2003, 14:41:02
yo squeek i read all that page and i am trying it its an interesting consept after that i read the other thigs then OBEs and found my self getting ebooks of obe i hate to read books
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: Squeek on March 28, 2003, 16:28:01
Post by: Squeek on March 28, 2003, 16:28:01
I still can't hear Mr. Sub in my daily life. I know it won't be like the guy in the second story, but I'd expect it to be like once in a while, more than like never.
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: kakkarot on March 29, 2003, 16:30:43
Post by: kakkarot on March 29, 2003, 16:30:43
like when you're walking along, move energy to your legs and see if there's a difference in how far you can walk depending on how you make the energy feel.
or when you're sitting in class listening to your teacher (pfft, yeah right [:P]) try to move your energy onto the teacher and see if you can focus more completely on them than you've ever done before.
or like panabelle said, use it to cure even small wounds.
as you talk to your friends in the hall, subtlely start fiddling with their energy and see if they do anything (the subtlety is for your benefit, so they don't see you doing "weird" stuff and make fun of you for it). some fun things to do might be: getting them to substitute wrong words into their sentences, like saying cow instead of hallway, or something like that; seeing if you can make them look in a direction by merely willing them to do so; see if you can get their bladders to "malfunction" (though, of course, you wouldn't want to use this one on a good friend. lol); etc.
every time you run, use your energy to make yourself faster. every time you jump, use your energy to make yourself jump higher. every time you walk through the hallway, see if you can pick out the paths that other students 'intend' to take and then weave through them.
energy can be used in everything. it's really just a matter of doing it. [:)]
~kakkarot
or when you're sitting in class listening to your teacher (pfft, yeah right [:P]) try to move your energy onto the teacher and see if you can focus more completely on them than you've ever done before.
or like panabelle said, use it to cure even small wounds.
as you talk to your friends in the hall, subtlely start fiddling with their energy and see if they do anything (the subtlety is for your benefit, so they don't see you doing "weird" stuff and make fun of you for it). some fun things to do might be: getting them to substitute wrong words into their sentences, like saying cow instead of hallway, or something like that; seeing if you can make them look in a direction by merely willing them to do so; see if you can get their bladders to "malfunction" (though, of course, you wouldn't want to use this one on a good friend. lol); etc.
every time you run, use your energy to make yourself faster. every time you jump, use your energy to make yourself jump higher. every time you walk through the hallway, see if you can pick out the paths that other students 'intend' to take and then weave through them.
energy can be used in everything. it's really just a matter of doing it. [:)]
~kakkarot
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: auraseer on March 30, 2003, 05:16:03
Post by: auraseer on March 30, 2003, 05:16:03
Hi,
Kakkarot's post summed it all up.
I just had another subconcious convo. But it wasnt intentional. I was having my breakfast, and I heard a 'voice' say "hello". All of my friends say "hi", so it couldnt of been them round the back fence. It wasnt my family, because they denied it. It was a voice I had never heard of before.
Cya,
James.
Kakkarot's post summed it all up.
I just had another subconcious convo. But it wasnt intentional. I was having my breakfast, and I heard a 'voice' say "hello". All of my friends say "hi", so it couldnt of been them round the back fence. It wasnt my family, because they denied it. It was a voice I had never heard of before.
Cya,
James.
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: panabelle on March 30, 2003, 09:34:10
Post by: panabelle on March 30, 2003, 09:34:10
Kakkarot, you make it sound so easy. Do you actually get tangible results with this stuff? Because whenever I do energy I never seem to know if I'm really doing it or if it's all in my head. 
Nothing that more practice can't fix, I suppose. But that doesn't make it feel any less like I'm running into a brick wall over and over again with everything except auric sight.
That reminds me, I had a question. Whoops, I forgot it. Gimme a minute and I'll remember. I hope. Hmmmm...jeez I hate it when this happens...it's like I have teen's Alzheimers or something...ugh...
OH YEAH I remember now!!! (Phew.) I was fiddling around with energy aura stuff in class (social studies again), kinda switching randomly back and forth between auric sight and gathering energy to be specific. ANYHOO, I was trying to see the aura of my teacher when I noticed that the back of my brain felt like it was working really hard. I recalled that in several of my (very cool) dreams where I have telekinesis or anything like that, I got the exact same feeling. It's like a tug or something at the back of my head. So I very quickly switched to telekinesis with my pen cap and I swear it almost moved because I was just focusing so hard on it and I could feel it wanting to move and all the sheer will power surrounding it. I think I could have moved something lighter, but the feeling faded before I realized that. Anyone experience anything similar or know what the heck it was/is?
Nothing that more practice can't fix, I suppose. But that doesn't make it feel any less like I'm running into a brick wall over and over again with everything except auric sight.That reminds me, I had a question. Whoops, I forgot it. Gimme a minute and I'll remember. I hope. Hmmmm...jeez I hate it when this happens...it's like I have teen's Alzheimers or something...ugh...
OH YEAH I remember now!!! (Phew.) I was fiddling around with energy aura stuff in class (social studies again), kinda switching randomly back and forth between auric sight and gathering energy to be specific. ANYHOO, I was trying to see the aura of my teacher when I noticed that the back of my brain felt like it was working really hard. I recalled that in several of my (very cool) dreams where I have telekinesis or anything like that, I got the exact same feeling. It's like a tug or something at the back of my head. So I very quickly switched to telekinesis with my pen cap and I swear it almost moved because I was just focusing so hard on it and I could feel it wanting to move and all the sheer will power surrounding it. I think I could have moved something lighter, but the feeling faded before I realized that. Anyone experience anything similar or know what the heck it was/is?
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: Ash on March 30, 2003, 13:57:12
Post by: Ash on March 30, 2003, 13:57:12
quote:
Originally posted by panabelle
dreams where I have telekinesis or anything like that, I got the exact same feeling. It's like a tug or something at the back of my head.
wow panabelle that is really bizarre. I have been telekinetic in my dreams ever since somebody in a dream taught me how to do it years ago in a lucid dream. When I first learned how this is what i did. I would focus my eyes on the object that i want to move and make a connection. It would feel like an invisible rope was attached to the object, through my eyes, and right into the back of my brain. Then, when I move my eyes the object would move along with my gaze. I would feel this as pulling on the back of my brain.
Later, I learned how to do this with my hands instead of my eyes, but I still feel an internal tugging as I move the object. I was always convinced that if I could just recreate that feeling while awake that I would be capable of telekinesis in the real world.
Ash
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: kakkarot on March 31, 2003, 14:24:28
Post by: kakkarot on March 31, 2003, 14:24:28
auraseer: keep in contact with it and try to talk to it. see if you can glean some knowledge from it, like who/what it is [:)]. (well, ok i'm sure you already planned this, but i thought i'd beat everyone else to stating the obvious [:D])
panabelle: i've had a strong feeling like that once in my life. i was with a friend of mine who is very spiritually advanced and she said that it was my powers "awakening" some more. i'm not sure whether that's what happened since at that point in my life (two years ago) i really wasn't too focused on developing my powers. so sorry that i can't help you, maybe someone else can or hopefully you'll be able to figure it out for yourself [:)].
"Do you actually get tangible results with this stuff?" on the physical plane, usually only if i'm doing something on a "grand" scale. like manipulating the weather or changing the temperature of an area, but not like if i'm trying to move a pen across a table or if i'm trying to get a computer to do something. rather strange, but whatever [|)]. and on a non-physical level, i usually do get good results (though obviously not "tangible").
ash: neat. keep trying and i'm sure you will be able to recreate the feeling. then all you'll need is willpower enough to move stuff [:)] (but then, if you've already got that, then you're set as soon as you can get past the blockage [|)]).
~kakkarot
panabelle: i've had a strong feeling like that once in my life. i was with a friend of mine who is very spiritually advanced and she said that it was my powers "awakening" some more. i'm not sure whether that's what happened since at that point in my life (two years ago) i really wasn't too focused on developing my powers. so sorry that i can't help you, maybe someone else can or hopefully you'll be able to figure it out for yourself [:)].
"Do you actually get tangible results with this stuff?" on the physical plane, usually only if i'm doing something on a "grand" scale. like manipulating the weather or changing the temperature of an area, but not like if i'm trying to move a pen across a table or if i'm trying to get a computer to do something. rather strange, but whatever [|)]. and on a non-physical level, i usually do get good results (though obviously not "tangible").
ash: neat. keep trying and i'm sure you will be able to recreate the feeling. then all you'll need is willpower enough to move stuff [:)] (but then, if you've already got that, then you're set as soon as you can get past the blockage [|)]).
~kakkarot
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: panabelle on March 31, 2003, 16:46:12
Post by: panabelle on March 31, 2003, 16:46:12
Kakkarot: Sorry, tangible was really the wrong word. What I meant was do you KNOW for sure that something is happening? I'm so jealous...
Ash: That's exactly it! I never had anyone teach it to me though, in a lucid dream or otherwise. It just happened.
I feel the exact same way about it (if I could recreate it...) It's too bad I don't really remember what I was doing differently the other day when I got it awake. [:(] Oh well...practice practice practice! [|)]
Ash: That's exactly it! I never had anyone teach it to me though, in a lucid dream or otherwise. It just happened.
I feel the exact same way about it (if I could recreate it...) It's too bad I don't really remember what I was doing differently the other day when I got it awake. [:(] Oh well...practice practice practice! [|)]
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: Squeek on April 01, 2003, 12:53:29
Post by: Squeek on April 01, 2003, 12:53:29
Im back...from...nowhere!
Yay. Everything that Kakky described, I don't do. Hooray.
I got Zelda: The wind Waker. This game rox my sox. Buy it right now. You can teleport to BestBuy, right?
lol... I'm so lazy. Save me from the Vanilla.
Yay. Everything that Kakky described, I don't do. Hooray.
I got Zelda: The wind Waker. This game rox my sox. Buy it right now. You can teleport to BestBuy, right?
lol... I'm so lazy. Save me from the Vanilla.
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: smilecollecter on April 15, 2003, 11:17:35
Post by: smilecollecter on April 15, 2003, 11:17:35
Hello to All, I have a book called "The Power of The Subconscious Mind", and I have given it to friends and family because of the truths that are written in the book and when applied (which we do all the time but in a more negative way) will change a person's life for the better. I know it has mine and anyone else who deliberatly and persistantly follow the methods. I've had so many great things happen since reading and doing this book....one, my adult son who refused to move out is now living some place else instead of with mom....yahoo! That is no small matter. two...my finances have gotten better and they are fixin to get tremendously better! I hope you will all check it out. You can even get a copy at the library. I picked mine up at the Goodwill months ago. Best $2.00 investment I ever made.
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: Squeek on April 15, 2003, 14:11:01
Post by: Squeek on April 15, 2003, 14:11:01
Sounds cool. I may have to snag a copy myself (from the libarry. I'm poor :)) And i'll prolly have to wait until I have my license so i can drive and get it without my parents knowing...
~Squeek (it's tough being my age)
~Squeek (it's tough being my age)
Title: Subconscious Conversations
Post by: Squeek on March 18, 2003, 13:18:40
Post by: Squeek on March 18, 2003, 13:18:40
First of all, I learned about this here -
http://www.psipog.net/show.php?id=36
Now, once you read that whole article, and then the article that is linked inside that article, you may be able to answer my questions a bit easier. I read this article and was deeply interested in them, especially the story on the link from the article on psipog. This is one thing I have been trying to find for a very long time.
Anywaysness... I read the article and know I got results. I could actually tell. That right there was a huge plus. But, the problem is, I can't actually hear the answers to questions I ask of him. I know he can hear me, because the things I ask him happen, but can't hear his reply.
Examples? Here they are
I was chatting with my neighbor on aim immediately after reading this. After a while, i said goodbye, but he didn't reply. I hear a voice inside tell me not to close the window yet, so I didn't. About 15 minutes passed with that window cluttering up my taskbar, so I decided to close it anyways. Exactly 5 seconds later... a new chat window pops up saying "K" then "Bye" then " * has signed off AIM " I knew i should've listened to him [:P]
I read about an experiment with early mornings from the psipog link as well. So, one night, at 11pm, I asked him if he could wake me up at 5:45 the next morning...just to test it out. I woke up the next morning at 5:46. I usually don't get up until at least 6:10, so this was just another hint.
Last one - I was playing a psychic card game online, and on the first game of each match, i heard the voice tell me where to pick or which one to pick (2 different games) And by golly, he was right. The game involved a 500x500 or so pixel grid. You pick a spot that you think the dot is around, then show, and it shows you how far off you were. I don't beleive this was coincidence because a saw a small blip of light coming from the spot he told me to click. I have the saved picture of me getting about 1mm away from the dot on that one.
Anyhoo...post your comments / questions / insults here. Whee.
http://www.psipog.net/show.php?id=36
Now, once you read that whole article, and then the article that is linked inside that article, you may be able to answer my questions a bit easier. I read this article and was deeply interested in them, especially the story on the link from the article on psipog. This is one thing I have been trying to find for a very long time.
Anywaysness... I read the article and know I got results. I could actually tell. That right there was a huge plus. But, the problem is, I can't actually hear the answers to questions I ask of him. I know he can hear me, because the things I ask him happen, but can't hear his reply.
Examples? Here they are
I was chatting with my neighbor on aim immediately after reading this. After a while, i said goodbye, but he didn't reply. I hear a voice inside tell me not to close the window yet, so I didn't. About 15 minutes passed with that window cluttering up my taskbar, so I decided to close it anyways. Exactly 5 seconds later... a new chat window pops up saying "K" then "Bye" then " * has signed off AIM " I knew i should've listened to him [:P]
I read about an experiment with early mornings from the psipog link as well. So, one night, at 11pm, I asked him if he could wake me up at 5:45 the next morning...just to test it out. I woke up the next morning at 5:46. I usually don't get up until at least 6:10, so this was just another hint.
Last one - I was playing a psychic card game online, and on the first game of each match, i heard the voice tell me where to pick or which one to pick (2 different games) And by golly, he was right. The game involved a 500x500 or so pixel grid. You pick a spot that you think the dot is around, then show, and it shows you how far off you were. I don't beleive this was coincidence because a saw a small blip of light coming from the spot he told me to click. I have the saved picture of me getting about 1mm away from the dot on that one.
Anyhoo...post your comments / questions / insults here. Whee.