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Title: Telekinesis
Post by: Ides315 on July 09, 2002, 22:32:40
Hey, Tom.

Try with something smaller first. In a couple of different books I have read about basic psi, they recomended taking a small square of paper, fold it triangularly both ways, so when you open it up you have a pyramid. Take a needle, stick the sharp end in cork or something. Rest the pyramid on the needle so the end of the needle is inside at the apex. Go for it. It will be very reactive, and you really need to watch your breath, air currents, etc. It spins very easy. Try going one way, then the other. It worked best for me if I put my hands on either side of it.

Not quite as cool as a pen, but it gives you a place to start. It will also help you learn how to push. When I did it, at first, it did not always go the direction I wanted, or would "jump" when I would first try. Maybe it was just me, but getting the direction was the hard part, sometimes it would just quiver from energy, and not spin either way. I havn't played with it for a while, I should, things flow easier now. Good luck.



Title: Telekinesis
Post by: Tom on July 09, 2002, 22:44:10
That is what I tried first. A piece of paper folded and balanced on a sewing needle. I could not get it to stop moving long enough to try to move it. Too many air currents or something. Maybe I need to try it again until definite results begin to appear. Does my basic approach seem correct?


Title: Telekinesis
Post by: Ides315 on July 09, 2002, 23:11:32
Hey, Tom

Yeah, seemed good to me. But I never was interested past proving it. I am not sure why, but it seemed harder to control my energy into doing what i wanted with telekinesis. But i have not really tried it since working with NEW, maybe the awareness hands are part of it. Hopefully some of the psi guys will pick up the thread. I have read on some of their home pages, where playing games (like chess, checkers, etc..) is used for training. Probably a lot like all of this stuff. Walking looks easy enough, but if you have never done it, it is hard.

Take care

Title: Telekinesis
Post by: James S on July 10, 2002, 00:42:04
Hi Tom,

Could you elaborate a bit on how your trying to move the pen?

I'm speaking as an unmarried marriage councellor here, but there are thoughts and ways of things that just seem to make sense to me. One of these is that I'm not really sure it makes any difference how big the object you are trying to move is. It only seems more achievable if it is small. My reasoning here is that unless you are trying to move things through the magnetic field of your energy body, you can not actually achieve movement by mentally pushing or pulling an object. Trying to make your bodies energy move the object directly probably won't work, because that energy is on a different level to that of the physical world.  

I believe you need to be working with the energy layer "underneath" the physical object  - where the energy bonds are that hold the atoms and molecules together. Focusing on the object you need to become intimate with it, making it part of your own body, "becoming one" with it I believe is the most commonly used term. That way your energy, and the energy of the object are joined and react together as if it were in your hand.

Now I think I'll go away and start practicing what I preach.

In the mean time, have a look at this site, it seemed to make sense to me:
http://www.crystalinks.com/telekinesis.html

And remember:
If someone tries to tell you "there is no spoon"
ask them "then why is there soup?"



James S
(Fate amenable to change)
Title: Telekinesis
Post by: junkie on July 10, 2002, 08:54:04
hi,

as far as i remember, the square-actually-a-cross-balancing-on-a-needle-trick was suggested by somebody in the old forums. so, go and have a look at the discussion from back then. this experiment doesn't prove PK, though.

Title: Telekinesis
Post by: thinker on July 11, 2002, 12:00:02
Unfortunatly I've not yet been able to use telekinesis so i cant really help, but one thing you could do is put the paper on pin under a drinking glass to stop the air from moveing it.

This is the best site I've come accros perhaps it can help.
http://www.psipog.net/articles.php?cat=3

Title: Telekinesis
Post by: KP on July 20, 2002, 11:17:58
I'd just like to say thanks for posting up those URLs.  After about 5 hours of practice I finally can do TK.  I spent about 2 hours a day and the 3rd day I got it.  Now I can move spoons, move things on string.  But I'm finding it really tough to put a lot of force on things (like rolling pencils).  I can definately feel the enrgy through the objects and when moving a spoon my gf touched it and she got an electric shock.
It really is amazing, everyone should try this out!
I hope if I keep the practice up I will be able to have more control and force.



Title: Telekinesis
Post by: kakkarot on July 21, 2002, 17:16:58
wow, you're good KP.

i've been trying (slack-@$$edly) for years, and have only gotten telekinesis to kind-of work when i was using energy as well. for fun, i stop papers and bags that are blowing about in the wind. so far, i can only get them to stick to the ground, but i have been experimenting (again slack-@$$edly  :)  ) with trying to move them in different directions and up and down. it will be pretty nifty, i hope, when it does work  :) .

~kakkarot

Secret of Secrets
Title: Telekinesis
Post by: KP on July 22, 2002, 17:15:59
Wow just had another amazing TK experience, had to share it with u all.  I had a lighter placed on my thumb, and I began moving it so it rotated around my thumb in a circle really slowly.  I must've been concentrating really hard coz I actually saw some sort of electric type small lightning bolt shoot from my left hand (which I was using to send out the energy).  It felt really great, my gf saw this too we were both really amazed.
My hands always shake like crazy as I usually get loads of energy running through them.  I touched my gf's waist and I wondered what would happen if I sent some energy into her.  I didn't mean harm I was just curious.  She got an electric shock from my hand! It was crazy!  I love TK!
I hear so much from people saying it's difficult to do, it's not!  I think meditating helps A LOT, you need the ability to concentrate on where the object is gonna go and move it slowly step by step.  If you think about it or about anything else it won't work.  I am 100% sure that the NEW energy ways help me immensly too.  Thanks Robert!

And almost had my 3rd OBE today, I was so close!  I was paralyzed but panicked at the last minute.

Anyway I really want to show more people my TK exercises, my gf is the only one who knows I can do this.  I tried showing a few other friends but they laughed at me and said I was just making it up for attention! grr!

Title: Telekinesis
Post by: kakkarot on July 22, 2002, 17:33:50
so zap them   >:-)  . they'll learn that you aren't making it up  :)

~kakkarot

Secret of Secrets
Title: Telekinesis
Post by: IlmariL on July 22, 2002, 18:50:37
When you say it's not as hard as is said and so on, keep in mind that all people are blessed with different types of natural abilities But yeah, many have had success with relatively little practice.
I'm interested to know more about how you do it and what you can actually do. Do you have to see the target object in order to affect it? Or is it enough to just 'know' it's there? For example, move something under an opaque bowl.

Title: Telekinesis
Post by: KP on July 23, 2002, 03:42:35
I stare at the object for a few seconds, I find that the closer my hands are to it the easier it is, but I have still been able to move objects from a distance of about 8 feet.  So far i've only moved small objects, lighters, pencils, spoons, rings, CDs, books, turned pages in newspapers :)   I did come very close to moving a door yesterday!  I read somewhere that it's not the size of the object, it's just that people get more doubts with larger objects.  A few objects I can't really move yet, but they shake a lot.

What I do is stare at the object and think of nothing then i move my eyes a bit to the left (or right) of the object and see it moving there.  I somehow send energy out of my hands and forehead without thinking about them.  All i focus on is the object moving.  A lot of the times (usually with larger objects) I get results where the object just shakes/vibrates.

Here's an exercise I do a lot.  This is the easiest one i've done.
I hold a spoon in my hand with my index finger and rest it on my thumb slightly holding the handle of the spoon.  I hold it just enough so it won't fall off and try and put on as little pressure as possible.   I hold the spoon up in front of my face and see the other end of the spoon moving towards me in a clockwise direction.  This causes high energy flow in my hands and the spoon usually starts shaking like crazy at first, it seems as if my energy is flowing through it.  As long as I keep concentration on the spoon moving towards me, it happens.

Had another weird experience yesterday too, my video player broke while I was watching a film and I was really mad, I went over to unplug it and some energy came out of my hands and kinda zapped the plug sockets.  The TV went off and wouldnt come back on :(  I think I need to change the fuse.



Title: Telekinesis
Post by: Gandalf on August 01, 2002, 04:47:39
As Yoda says, 'size matters not.. look at me... judge me by my size do you? hmm?'
(imagine best Yoda accent)

I think its true though, the size of the object matters to you only because the smaller it is, the more aceptable it is to your mind.
At the risk of quoting Yoda again, 'the difference is only in your mind'!

Douglas



Title: Telekinesis
Post by: adiraz on August 02, 2002, 22:23:20
i had 4 coppa's on me when i was was makin my way outta the main bank where i live with a few saks of cash, so i called on my psi-powers and i sent em flyin through the air in front of an oncoming train.  then i shoutd go web go and startd swinging from the sky scrapers to my secret hide out where i counted four mill in hundy bills.

u wanna know the secret
u gotta eat big lots of vitabix just like trevor hendy

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Title: Telekinesis
Post by: Tom on August 04, 2002, 10:12:24
Recently I tried the paper on a needle practice device. This time I placed it in a plastic bowl with a lid. It still doesn't move when I try to move it. It seems that my energy can connect with it, and narrowing the focus doesn't take much. Sometimes I can even direct energy from my hand to the point that it becomes visible to me. Things around the room start to glow, as though they were illuminating themselves. The air itself seems to contain energy. The thing is that my best efforts don't seem to be helping. Sometimes it seems like the paper slightly moves, but not enough to rule out a trick of the eyes. I understand that this is enough to call it a fair start. It would just help to have some sort of way to be sure that I am doing everything possible to learn telekinesis.


Title: Telekinesis
Post by: KP on August 05, 2002, 07:19:42
quote:
Originally posted by adiraz:
i had 4 coppa's on me when i was was makin my way outta the main bank where i live with a few saks of cash, so i called on my psi-powers and i sent em flyin through the air in front of an oncoming train.  then i shoutd go web go and startd swinging from the sky scrapers to my secret hide out where i counted four mill in hundy bills.

u wanna know the secret
u gotta eat big lots of vitabix just like trevor hendy

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I know it sounds stupid what I say :( you don't have to believe me, but no need to be mean.  To skeptics, this whole forum looks like a bunch of crazy people making up crap

Title: Telekinesis
Post by: KP on August 05, 2002, 07:30:37
Check out this website, it's got some detailed info.

http://www.unexplainedphenomenon.com/esp/telekinesis

Title: Telekinesis
Post by: Tom on August 05, 2002, 10:53:21
The site wouldn't load when I clicked on the link. Could you please summarize some of the main points?


Title: Telekinesis
Post by: KP on August 06, 2002, 04:04:46
Tom:
There is a lot of very useful info, it's worth reading all of it and i'd find it difficult to summarize it because it talks about so much.  Looks like the link is dead now.
I have it all saved on my HD so if you (or anyone) want them, e-mail me at tom@prawny.com and i'll be happy to send out the HTMLs in a zip file.

Title: Telekinesis
Post by: nightflier101 on August 18, 2002, 18:13:39
I had help from some sort of energy or spirit. So I can't say I was able to
do it alone...

I used to sit on the couch, with an object on the coffee table, like a
bottle cap upside down or something made from glass. Look at your hand
and slowly touch your thumb and middle finger together. Repeat this very slowly and an arc of light will stream between them. My hand would get
cold almost frozen feeling, and the arc of light would turn orange.

I would sit back and look at the object to be moved, I was not close
enough to touch it. I would imagine the object being between my two
fingers and the stream of light punching a hole through the object.
I could feel the object in my grasp, even though it was four feet away.


then a slow motion of my entire hand would make the object slide
towards me until it fell off the table.

And don't forget to have a witness, someone who you trust.  to prove
to yourself it's really happening. Otherwise you might have doubts
and dismiss the whole thing as a subjective hallucination.

telekinesis is real...  but is weak in strength.
Unless you can usher in help from an outside or inside source.


Nightflier...

Title: Telekinesis
Post by: kifyre on August 18, 2002, 22:26:09
From Spring Forest Qigong:

Thumb(s) touching middle finger(s) aids in energy flow out of the body. Possibly not something to keep up for too long.

Thumb(s) touching pointer finger(s) helps to prevent energy from being drained. Try it on a cold day. I believe it's quite safe to do for long periods of time (meditating). It was recommended for low energy areas like hospitals or places with negative entities. Just put a hand in your pocket and make a circle. It was also specifically said that energy can still get in--so I assume you could build it up.

Mark

Title: Telekinesis
Post by: Tisha on August 19, 2002, 11:00:30
Cook posts, KP!  Keep reporting in, I like hearing about your development.

Psi abilities (divination, telekenesis) runs in my boyfriend D's family.  It seems it might be hereditary.  Different family members had/have different "things" about them.  His grandfather was telekenetic and could move spoons across the diningroom table and bend them.  As a little boy, D would crawl under the diningroom table trying to find the "magnet" that was supposedly moving the spoon!  Of course he never found it.

Anyway, for those of you who try and try and try and TK is just not working for you, TK might just not be your "thing."  You might want to find another "thing" to try until you find your niche.  After all, you might just be clairvoyant.  Who knows?


Tisha

"As Above, So Below"
Title: Telekinesis
Post by: spawn968 on August 20, 2002, 15:42:35
I know I'm still new here, but I though I'd throw in my two cents.  Contrary to what some people have said on here, I think TK is more like a muscle that needs to be excercised.  Just as a baby cannot lift 200 lbs weights, neither can you start throwing couches just by believing that you can.  Only through continual practice will you gain more strength as well as more control.  That is why most people start off with the pinwheel: It is the easiest way to reduce friction.  The less friction, the easier it is to move.  It would appear that while we're stuck on the physical, we must abide by it's rules.  See Isaac Newton if you want clarification.

Title: Telekinesis
Post by: adiraz on August 23, 2002, 12:04:45
sorry KP I didnt intend to mean i was just havin fun.. im certainly not skeptic at all about what u claim to do... all kinds of crazy excrement has happend in the last 20 months or so of my life... just sometimes for some reason i get this need to write stupid posts in these forums cuz i can, to fill in the time until i have some fo these higherlevel experiences... ;)

adiraz

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Title: Telekinesis
Post by: KP on August 27, 2002, 03:37:29
I've moved on from spoons etc, I can make objects shake so easily but I have problems controlling them, making them move.  I was working on moving my chandelier last night.
I totally agree with spawn, TK is like a muscle that needs to be exerciseed.  I try to exercise it as much as I can, everywhere I go I try to move/shake things.  It's part of my life, I must do about 2 hours a day of TK practice.  This isn't something i'm messing around with anymore, I practice TK more than anything I've ever practiced or worked on.  I've really suprised myself, I thought I was lazy at everything.  I've never had some much determination and dedication for anything.

For all those people wanting the link e-mailed to them, please visit my website instead at http://kingprawn.woaf.net.  Soon i'll add my own lessons for TK, but I think a lot of TK is down to the practice you put in, not how much you read on how to do it.

Title: Telekinesis
Post by: Tom on October 14, 2002, 10:50:17
The psi pog articles have been very interesting.

It still seems like I am thinking about trying to do telekinesis. My paper pinwheel is set up and in a clear container to keep air currents in the room away. It looked to me like it shook a little, but this was when I became distracted and mentally unfocussed. I was no longer thinking about moving the pinwheel. Then, the moment I caught motion, it would reverse direction and land about exactly where it began. Naturally, it has to be my eyes playing tricks on me. Even so, maybe the trick is to use some sort of mental device to keep the mind from thinking too much about moving the object. I am almost out of guesses and now my eyes are tricking me.


Title: Telekinesis
Post by: Tracy on October 14, 2002, 14:09:42
I'm there with you Tom, recently I decided to try also.  Of all the literature I have read says this:

1. Try not to think of anything at all but just gaze at it.  I know this sounds lame but they swear by it.  

2. A suggestion given by another individual is to focus your point of conscious at the object (psi wheel).  I haven't tried this yet and who knows what to do after you are focused.

3. It seems that a lot of people have problems with moving the wheel with the glass over it, even the experienced.

4.  Recently I tried concentrating on my third eye while looking at the wheel.  It was so incredible.  After around ten minutes of doing this, not thinking of anything of course, I started to get that strange energy tingling in my forhead.    The wheel started to show streaks of electric blue crawling on it, no kidding!  It didn't move but sure was interesting.  Maybe it was some kind of auric energy, who knows.  Give it a try.

Anyway good luck and I hope these techniques help.  I usually don't recommend other sites but take a peak at www.psipog.net; they have some wonderful literature on the subject.  It's on the first page under articles.  Take a look at the media also if you haven't been there yet.

Tracy
Title: Telekinesis
Post by: Yoyo on October 23, 2002, 11:00:35
Now this is getting interesting.
I read your post Kifyre and i suddenly remembered that i had an experience several years ago that (for me at least) confirms what you said.
One day my sister was playing with our cat, and suddenly it started hissing and sounding really angry. It then tried to bite her hand before running wild through the room, it calmed down after about half a minute.
I came over and asked what she did, she showed me how she held her hand right before the cat went nuts.
I tried it and the cat reacted immediately, became agressive and started running back and forth while watching my hand!
While doing this I held my hand with the thumb and middle finger making a circle, and the rest of the fingers streched out as far as they could go.

I am really surprised that I managed to forget such a thing since i'm the kind of person that experiments with interesting things like these until i completely understand them.
Oh well, now I remember so i'll try this with any animals I meet and observe their behaviour.

If anyone wants to try this, please post any results and observations.

Title: Telekinesis
Post by: pod3 on November 10, 2002, 15:28:53
Tom, the line represents the path of force. The string should go all the way through to the opposite side of the object. For instance, before they exit  the gun, the path of the bullets would be highlighted in the same way. Just for the sake of expample, you could alter that path in order to sway the bullet. Dimming the path should slow things down, and brightening it will speed them up.

In the astral, you may see elementals, or beings represented as packets of information. They will look smiilar to little suns, and swim about like sperm. The tail is analogous to the line of force, or the path that they are following. It's like if you had a bead on a string and wanted to move it. A  jerk on the string will fling the bead toward whatever the string is tied to.

Title: Telekinesis
Post by: Tom on July 09, 2002, 20:12:32
Recently I have been trying to move small objects. First, I select one to use. Whatever happens to be nearby, like a paperclip or a pen. Then I choose a direction for it to move and suspend disbelief. (thoughts like i can't do it, or here comes another failure). Then a more general slowing down of thoughts. Finally, pushing energy into the object to try to move it. It gets to the point where I can often see a line of energy going into the object. What am I doing wrong? It isn't that I don't really think it can be done. It must be that my procedure is missing something or mistaken somehow.