The data layer

[zareste]

I always wondered how astral projection is possible, how telepathy is possible, how a person can move an object using his mind, see the future, interact with the past - and I never found any explanations. Quantum mechanics offers hints, but that's all.  I never got my answers until I studied psychic humanoids - the ones who truly understand the physics of psychic phenomena. That's where I heard about a thing called the 'data layer', from which visible reality can be controlled.

The data layer is an abstract layer of the universe that is - literally - the code that creates what we see. Our physical universe is still real, but it's a bit like a computer program, and the smarter life forms out there - the psychics - are like the programmers and hackers. The more you know reality's codes, the more control you have, the more rules you can break.

That's how psychic phenomena works. This is mentioned in the Lacerta files, where a Reptilian causes a pen to jump telekinetically. She explains that this in done by manipulating the pen from the data layer, which filters through the physical layer and causes the physical pen to jump. She is essentially hacking the physical. In another record, there was a Zetan explaining how they copy and duplicate DNA. He said they don't just study the atoms, because there is a lot of data in DNA that humans don't see, because we only see the atoms (we perceive space as nothing but space). There is a 'lower' level of space containing more information, and that level controls the atoms with total precision.

The trouble is, humanoids try - and fail - to explain the data layer in human terms. We view the universe as nothing but XYZ space, but they see the underlying codes. So it always puzzled me as to what the data layer is and how it fits in with our visible universe.

The answer came when I was studying astrology - how data from a nearby planet can influence our behavior. After enough studying, it all made sense.

What it is
We measure things in height, width, mass, speed, distance - space measured with space - and that works fine most of the time. There are flaws in spacial measurement, however.  When you're trying to measure space on an atomic level, these systems begin to fail. For example, sometimes an atom teleports through another atom, sometimes a particle exists in two places at the same time, sometimes a photon shows up as a particle and sometimes it shows up as a wave. These particles follow rules different from solid objects.

When you get to the lowest level of space, measurements become useless. It can only be understood as data - numbers and variables that define how the universe creates the atoms and objects.

The smarter humanoids know this data and they can create tools and develop skills to manipulate it. Where we use our hands and heavy tools to manipulate reality, a psychic uses codes. Because your mind (spirit) is based mostly on data, anyone is theoretically able to do these things.

Phasing
People see Zetans walk through their walls the way ghosts do, and even pull the human through the wall. This is puzzling because both are solid, atomic beings. The reason it's possible is because there are data fields in every object, controlling how the atoms organize and behave (for example the wall beside you is held together by a field) Zetans and other psychic types alter their data field so their atoms no longer respond to the wall, and they can do the same to the person.

Remote viewing
Remember where I said space measurement begins to fail on a sub-atomic level? That's because the data layer has little respect for space. If you're skilled enough, you can set where you are and read data from 10 light-years away, provided you can correctly track the data and translate it into visuals and sounds. An unskilled psychic gets information jumbled, and an average person fails at remote viewing because it's like reading computer code.

Telekinesis
If you can read an object's data from afar, you can also write it. Like Lacerta said, you track a visible object to the data layer and change its codes. I imagine, if you want to make an object jump, you add an element of momentum to its properties. (I'm not sure that's how it works) Reality then translates this into a physical action. The same method can theoretically be used to make an object light, make it melt or even set it on fire if you change the codes correctly

Astral projection
This, I'm less sure about. When other humanoids talk about astral projection, they call it 'projecting your consciousness', implying that the astral form is your consciousness data. They also refer to your soul as your 'mind'. A Zetan said our minds (souls) exist as fine data and not visible atoms, and Lacerta said our intelligence does not exist in our brain at all. So what I assume is, astral projection is similar to remote viewing (accessing data from afar) except your mind data has become disassociated with your atomic body, and is able to traverse reality in the form of fine data.

The reason projecting is complicated, I think, is because your mind data is entwined with your DNA and chakra fields, so it's hard to separate because you rely on them. Separating for too long can cause your mind to deteriorate unless you're especially skilled. (you become less and less able to perceive data correctly, less able to think, and you revert to an incoherent dream state) Lacerta adds that a spirit simply dies after a while of separation (assuming you don't find a body to rely on), but I think this form of death is a long and gradual process, based on what I read about ghosts.

Time travel
Another subject I'm less certain about, but I've heard people say they've done it. I think, if there's a level of understanding where space begins to lose meaning, there must also be a level where time begins to lose meaning. If you know the codes deeply enough, you ought to be able translate high-level codes (current, time-based codes) into past and future data, and even interact with them if your system is good enough. (this would perhaps involve complex changes in the high-level code that essentially change the past and future)


How psychics read and write these codes is still mysterious to me. Some humanoids have tools that manipulate data, some are genetically geared for it so all they have to do is 'tell' an object to move and their mind alters the necessary data. Some have actually converted their planet into a system of fine data so that it understands and responds quickly to thoughts, allowing them to create any kind of fantasy from it.

[Yamabushi]

David Bohm called it the implicate order. Others call it the subquantum domain, the vacuum, the plenum, the ether, etc.

Quantum mechanics does not go far enough. For that matter, neither does data (information) physics. You may want to look into subquantum kinetics for a start.

As for how humanoids read and write the data, Gariaev's group out of Russia has come up with some interesting experimental results regarding the subquantum aspects of DNA. Have you ever heard of the DNA Phantom Effect?

[CFTraveler]

http://www.etheric.com/LaVioletteBooks/ether.html

Bookmarked for later reading.  Seems fascinating.

[Yamabushi]

Thanks CFT...

The report from Gariaev et al I referred to is titled "The DNA-Wave Biocomputer." A word.doc is available on the net at Robert Neil Boyd's site. Direct link: www.rialian.com/rnboyd/dna-wave.doc

Umm, I guess for that matter, Dr. Boyd's subquantum and aether physics model is another place you may be interested in. You can find plenty at http://www.rialian.com/rnboyd/subquantum.htm

Tom Bearden's book, "Gravitobiology," may shed some further light on writing / reading data into the active quantum potential / implicate order. There is also V.L. Dyatlov's Polarization Model of the Inhomogeneous Physical Vacuum (http://www.sinor.ru:8100/~che/Vdyatlov1.htm) that is worth taking a look, as well as N.A. Kozyrev's work on time and causal mechanics.

The emerging picture from all of these is verrry interesting, to say the least. But don't let me spoil it.

[zareste]

Interesting stuff. My main focus is understanding these concepts in order to control them, not so much science for the sake of science, so sub-quantum mechanics and DNA are just tangents for me, even if they are interesting. My thing right now is figuring out how the data is written and read, so the Gravitobiology reference could be handy. Although, honestly, I prefer hearing these things from galactic civilizations who know these fringe subjects like it's child's-play. It's part of the reason I dabble so much in telepathy

[Yamabushi]

Interesting stuff. My main focus is understanding these concepts in order to control them, not so much science for the sake of science, so sub-quantum mechanics and DNA are just tangents for me, even if they are interesting. My thing right now is figuring out how the data is written and read, so the Gravitobiology reference could be handy. Although, honestly, I prefer hearing these things from galactic civilizations who know these fringe subjects like it's child's-play. It's part of the reason I dabble so much in telepathy

It is fun to watch Earth scientists slowly wade their way into the deep end, though.

[zareste]

Yeah, it really is quite a show. I still cringe when I pass those agenda-driven 'science magazines' at the library wherein scientists are credited with 'discovering' things that were already known by civilizations thousands of years ago.

[kurtykurt42]

Yea.. Most scientists are dummies but they have to be because the majority of the population doesn't take this stuff seriously. So if a respected scientist was to ask for funding to research "the data layer" he would be laughed right out of his job.

[zareste]

A funny question is, who decides what a 'scientist' is? Usually you see the phrase in a newspaper, "scientists agree..." etc., always talking about some new imaginary mind-disease or doubts about global warming. What scientists say this? Who considers them scientific? The news outlet decides that, and because our society is self-competitive, the news outlets have to compete for attention so the winner is the one that yells the loudest and and pulls the best under-handed tricks

Of course, some people consider themselves scientists because they have PhDs - given by whom? A committee from a university? What makes the committee qualified? Political groups get to decide that. Do politicians have to be scientific? No, they were elected in a competition to see who yells the loudest and pulls the best under-handed tricks.

So it's kinda funny. These folks can go on stage and talk about their great scientific achievements, yell really loud and print their faces on magazines. Reptilians think they go well with olives

[kurtykurt42]

Wikipedia says, A scientist, in the broadest sense, refers to any person who engages in a systematic activity to acquire knowledge or an individual that engages in such practices and traditions that are linked to schools of thought or philosophy. In a more restricted sense, scientist refers to individuals who use the scientific method.[1] The person may be an expert in one or more areas of science.

[zareste]

Yeah that dictionary is good for definitions. Do you need to post it here, though?

[Yamabushi]

There are groups in the private sector that have quite a bit of funding in the research & development of such technologies. The science community isn't much more than a religious community these days, and everyone has their models, and "denominations" thereof. There is also the matter of location. Science done in the United States does not always use conceptual frameworks consonant with the physics done in, say, Russia.

For every group of "scientists that agree," there are n number of other groups of "scientists that don't agree."

[Dusty2010]

I'm really, really (really) new here...  So don't laugh at me. 

The data layer thing I get, to be completely honest that's what I thought even before reading it.  I hadn't made the connect that these physic events are just thoughts re-writing the codes, although it makes total sense.  Now's the part where I'm hoping someone will explain things to me. 

Reptilians?  Humanoids?  What now?  I'm confused.  I was thinking something along the lines of okay, a telepathic connection to another race...  then wait, a telepathic communication to another race?  Seriously?  I'm not doubting anything - I just didn't know anyone had accomplished such a thing (told you I was new!).  So could anyone hit me up with a PM explaining, oh, I don't know, exactly what these races are or if we've had any physical contact?

[Questioner]

This is an interesting topic,and part of the reason i like to visit this site.Though,it seems alot of people on this site have alot of different views.

Yeah, it really is quite a show. I still cringe when I pass those agenda-driven 'science magazines' at the library wherein scientists are credited with 'discovering' things that were already known by civilizations thousands of years ago.

I think those discoveries are important,even if someone already got it a thousand,or a million years ago.
The point would be discovering it for ourselves,and countially evolving as a civilization.

A funny question is, who decides what a 'scientist' is?

Well,science,scientist,andbody who studies a field of science would be the best guess.

BTW,i am just as curious about the aliens as dusty.

[zareste]

Reptilians?  Humanoids?  What now?  I'm confused.  I was thinking something along the lines of okay, a telepathic connection to another race...  then wait, a telepathic communication to another race?  Seriously?  I'm not doubting anything - I just didn't know anyone had accomplished such a thing (told you I was new!).  So could anyone hit me up with a PM explaining, oh, I don't know, exactly what these races are or if we've had any physical contact?

You've probably interacted with 'another race' a few times, not knowing it - while you were asleep or in a trance. That's when new areas of the mind become available and you can read data streams, giving you access to a sort of cosmic internet.

In the case of the reptilian I mentioned, it was a physical interview. She was in the same room as the person and she spoke orally (I think it was in French, which annoyed me because the texts were translated, adding a little more confusion to the already complicated subjects she covered). A physical meeting is a bit rare because most humanoids prefer long-distance, telepathic communication for the same reason we here prefer to talk over the internet.

[Dusty2010]

You've probably interacted with 'another race' a few times, not knowing it - while you were asleep or in a trance. That's when new areas of the mind become available and you can read data streams, giving you access to a sort of cosmic internet.

In the case of the reptilian I mentioned, it was a physical interview. She was in the same room as the person and she spoke orally (I think it was in French, which annoyed me because the texts were translated, adding a little more confusion to the already complicated subjects she covered). A physical meeting is a bit rare because most humanoids prefer long-distance, telepathic communication for the same reason we here prefer to talk over the internet.

So where are these other races in space?  And is the world like that of "Men In Black" where aliens are walking among us?  I'm really not doubting anything at this point - I've thought it was stupid to believe that there are not aliens my entire life, and always wondered if we've made contact. 

Are these species friendly?  Also, if I was to telepathically converse with one of their kind, would some sort of meeting ever be possible?  From the little bit said about this race it seems that they could teach us so much about the universe 

[zareste]

Haha, it really is a bit like Men in Black - different species working everywhere, above our heads and beneath our feet. Some walk plainly among us and we can't even tell. So at times, talking with an off-worlder is like talking to someone from another country

But there's a lot of variety - perhaps hundreds of humanoid types we haven't classified. Some, you might get along with and some you might not. Some are more mature and some are obnoxious little imps. I once got into an argument with a guy who talked and looked like a human - but he had a big cranium and a slim, unclothed figure. (not quite as exaggerated as those TV aliens) He was a leader of some organization and his human followers were annoying me, so we had a little chat that was both interesting and annoying. His organization was crossing time periods in order to ward off an unsaid force that has been influencing humanity since the cave-man days- at least that's what I gathered. He was pushing me to join them but seemed half aware that I disliked him

[Dusty2010]

Haha, it really is a bit like Men in Black - different species working everywhere, above our heads and beneath our feet. Some walk plainly among us and we can't even tell. So at times, talking with an off-worlder is like talking to someone from another country

But there's a lot of variety - perhaps hundreds of humanoid types we haven't classified. Some, you might get along with and some you might not. Some are more mature and some are obnoxious little imps. I once got into an argument with a guy who talked and looked like a human - but he had a big cranium and a slim, unclothed figure. (not quite as exaggerated as those TV aliens) He was a leader of some organization and his human followers were annoying me, so we had a little chat that was both interesting and annoying. His organization was crossing time periods in order to ward off an unsaid force that has been influencing humanity since the cave-man days- at least that's what I gathered. He was pushing me to join them but seemed half aware that I disliked him

Very interesting.  So from reading a bit on reptilians (I think the website was "the reptilian agenda" or something of that nature) they don't seem...  well...  Nice 

Has anyone ever tried to AP into these reported bases/caverns that they have in order to see what they can see?  I'd imagine even though you're not a physical entity it would be dangerous...  It seems almost all the other races I read about where very much more physically advanced than us.

[zareste]

I guess we hear about the more mature species because they're the most interesting, but some people on this site have seen the lesser ones. A lot of them are slaves to stronger species, some live like barbarians on other planets. Some humanoids live with conditions and technology just like ours.

Reptilians are certainly different from us - I guess because they descend from a lineage different from mammal types - but I think they're no less civilized than anyone else in this nutty galaxy. I think the worst beings are the self-righteous ones who appear as angels and call themselves the beings of light. We've seen a lot of them in human history, and I've been studying them since before I knew about life outside the planet. They are absolutely horrid in my opinion

[Dusty2010]

I guess we hear about the more mature species because they're the most interesting, but some people on this site have seen the lesser ones. A lot of them are slaves to stronger species, some live like barbarians on other planets. Some humanoids live with conditions and technology just like ours.

Reptilians are certainly different from us - I guess because they descend from a lineage different from mammal types - but I think they're no less civilized than anyone else in this nutty galaxy. I think the worst beings are the self-righteous ones who appear as angels and call themselves the beings of light. We've seen a lot of them in human history, and I've been studying them since before I knew about life outside the planet. They are absolutely horrid in my opinion

But are reptilians some race that we should fear?  Because this website seemed very against them, and because I'm as curious as I am, I would have to say even if I knew a race was hostile I would still approach them with open arms.  I'm a thinker, I don't fight, although I've been told my presence can end the possibility of a fight fast  just because I'm smart doesn't keep me from being fit 

[zareste]

Heh, in terms of culture, there are plenty of conflicts between humans and reptilians, so it's good to be cautious at least. But it's not impossible for a human and reptilian to get along.

They tend to be really strong and fairly psychic. If you try to punch one, there's a fair chance your fist will go right through them, and he'll just screw up your mind so you'll drop dead or in a coma. If you punch one who isn't very psychic, they might beat you anyway. BUT I think they can be overcome if they're outnumbered by a mob of people (provided they don't have any major weapons), as it's hard to psychically influence multiple people and fight them at the same time.

[Dusty2010]

Heh, in terms of culture, there are plenty of conflicts between humans and reptilians, so it's good to be cautious at least. But it's not impossible for a human and reptilian to get along.

They tend to be really strong and fairly psychic. If you try to punch one, there's a fair chance your fist will go right through them, and he'll just screw up your mind so you'll drop dead or in a coma. If you punch one who isn't very psychic, they might beat you anyway. BUT I think they can be overcome if they're outnumbered by a mob of people (provided they don't have any major weapons), as it's hard to psychically influence multiple people and fight them at the same time.

But wouldn't it be easier to sit down and converse with them?  Reason with them at least a little or agree to disagree on some points?  It just seems that if these races posses the physic ability/technology they do that we would benefit so much more as a whole by working together rather than fighting.  Then again, this "peace" thing may have already been tried, I don't really know 

[Sadd-e Eskandar]

You've probably interacted with 'another race' a few times, not knowing it - while you were asleep or in a trance. That's when new areas of the mind become available and you can read data streams, giving you access to a sort of cosmic internet.

In the case of the reptilian I mentioned, it was a physical interview. She was in the same room as the person and she spoke orally (I think it was in French, which annoyed me because the texts were translated, adding a little more confusion to the already complicated subjects she covered). A physical meeting is a bit rare because most humanoids prefer long-distance, telepathic communication for the same reason we here prefer to talk over the internet.

How did the Reptilian look like? Exactly Reptilian or she had more traces of Humanity than Reptilian? How do you access these alien data streams? I'm quite interested in this stuff. What's your technique?

Can you like, establish a telepathic link with whoever you want, or it's only workable when an alien more geared to telepathy does it to you?

[zareste]

But wouldn't it be easier to sit down and converse with them?  Reason with them at least a little or agree to disagree on some points?  It just seems that if these races posses the physic ability/technology they do that we would benefit so much more as a whole by working together rather than fighting.  Then again, this "peace" thing may have already been tried, I don't really know  cheesy

It can happen, yeah, depending on which individual you're talking to. I'm just saying they tend to be good fighters overall - not necessarily irrational

Can you like, establish a telepathic link with whoever you want, or it's only workable when an alien more geared to telepathy does it to you?

There's a bunch of factors I'm still trying to figure out. I'm still a clumsy psychic, so all I can do is go into a trance, wait till the moment is right, and ask questions hoping someone will hear, and occasionally I get answers. The better psychics out there (Zetans for example) can hear your thoughts plain as day and talk back without a problem. They're the type I rely on for information

Things get a little more complicated when you want to communicate over a huge distance like another star system. There you need systems geared to focus cosmic energy streams and make them accessible. I read that in the days of Atlantis, they used crystals to communicate on a galactic scale, and they had a very intricate understanding of which atomic patterns a crystal needed to have. These days we've lost that information, but with enough skill I think it can be done without tools

[Dusty2010]

It can happen, yeah, depending on which individual you're talking to. I'm just saying they tend to be good fighters overall - not necessarily irrational
There's a bunch of factors I'm still trying to figure out. I'm still a clumsy psychic, so all I can do is go into a trance, wait till the moment is right, and ask questions hoping someone will hear, and occasionally I get answers. The better psychics out there (Zetans for example) can hear your thoughts plain as day and talk back without a problem. They're the type I rely on for information

So how do you know exactly who/what you're talking to?  And that's good to know that at least some aliens are peaceful like me, haha