Interesting stuff, glad you posted about it
"The Day After Tomorrow" is about global warming, not comets.
But about comets.. http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/
Theres some interesting stuff here, if you look around enough. Basically, James talks alot about the non-nasa supported side of astro physics, such as what comets really are. He also talks about the recent solar activity reacting to the increase of comets in our solar system.
Logic,
I'll look at your site thank you. But you should really analyze the 'Concept' of the movie, the global warming isnt the mesage, its the s**t that happens, see you know in dreams, theres symbolic messages, that are soo simple, that it takes time to train to understand them, this situation is the same manner.
The message isnt suppose to be all clear cut and out in the open 'look at this'; but its something hidden, and i think the global warming part is exactly what throw people off from what I was thinking and saying the exact opposite.
I did give the whole movie alot of thought. Infact, when I first heard about the movie, I was really amazed. I was so excited to see a movie, about what could potentially happen if we don't start taking care of our planet.
The purpose of the movie is to raise global awarness, which is stated a few times in the behind the scenes areas, such as..
quote:
..the very process of this picture is contributing to the problem of global warming! We couldn't avoid putting CO2 into the atmosphere during the shoot but we discovered we could do something to make up for it; we could make the film CarbonNeutral. Through a mix of energy conservation and tree planting, Future Forests is helping us offset the greenhouse gases anreleased during the making of The Day After Tomorrow. Many of the cast and crew have become Carbon-Neutral as well. It's only a small part of the solution to a very big problem, but it's a start. The movie is fiction; we'd like to keep it that way.
- Roland emmerich, Mark Gordon & Jeffrey Nachmanoff
Well it's gettin on mid May now, I suppose we'll find out if it's all true. If Earth were to pass through comets though, wouldn't we first be able to see the comets? Not that seeing them could prevent anything, but I don't think there's much to fear from a comet if you can't even see one. Maybe the world needs a good kick in the butt from the heavens to propel us in a new direction. In any case, why worry? Comets or meteors hitting the Earth is most definately a possibility. But aside from being incredibly difficult to predict, it's also something we can do little to nothing about. I say let it rain fire!
Hey guys, what do you think of this picture:
(//forums/uploaded/LittleNinja/2015.jpg)
If you look to the left of the picture from the center, you can see a small round object. Could it be Nibiru in the distance?
Thats a awesome picture.
Why would you think that is Niburu?
Mars was easily viewable around the 27th of april, according to //www.drsky.com
If the thing I was looking at was Mars... (It may not have been) I was using binoculars and it didn't look as big as it does in that photograph. In fact it was a small fraction of that size.
Doh, nevermind. Now I see what you are talking about in the picture. I do not know what it is, but I have seen similar sized objects in the morning sky for many years. Nothing out of the ordinary, as far as I am concerned.
Hmm...that being a planet? Then wouldnt our gravitational field have changed?
Anyway, since the pictures looks like it has a pretty high res, maybe zooming in might clear it up.
~ivan
im more interested in what that small black object is. If its a bird thats one hell of a bird.
hah, That black spot looks kinda like a hot air baloon. and on a side note, i have never in my life, seen f**king mars that big in the morning!! at least in michigan. Never...
But I have to add something i noticed which I must say again before responding, lol try to translate what I say because I prolly wont explain it that well and sound pointless hah.
But with the excrement that has happened recently in Iraq, its seeming more and more that our world is coming into major crisis just like what the people in the world before the last two major cataclymic events, The Ice Age, and The Great Flood During Mose's Life.
And if someone caN quote me on this, but somewhere in the bible it claims(and in alot of other religions) that in our christian/catholic religion, says something about when our people are going all nuts and excrement, thats when God comes, or jesus or suttin to take us or suttin.
Then one I can quote kinda relates to the Zeta's and all the other Races helping us towards the ultimate changes in our era of mankind which is the crossing of the planet nibuiru and the transformation to the 4th density.
They come from faraway lands, from the ends of the heavens-the Lord and the weapons of his wrath - to destroy the whole Earth. The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light. Therefore I will make the heavens tremble; and the earth will shake from its place at the wrath of the Lord almighty, in the day of his burning anger." A prophecy against Babylon - Isaiah 13:5/10/13
some other nonsense that ill throw out and have no idea how to explain and hopefully someone can help me out, lol insults on how stupid i am are welcome lol
http://www.detailshere.com/bibleprophesy.htm
is something i found that talks about how jesus knew about the dramatic earth changes that were to unfold
along with
Edgar Cayce:http://www.edgarcayce.org/about_ec/cayce_on/earth_changes/
prophet Muhammad: http://www.bci.org/islam-bahai/qearth.html
Hopi Indians:http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/telesto.htm
Immanuel Velikovsky:http://www.bearfabrique.org/Velikovsky/biovel.html
Charles Hapgood:http://www.poleshift.org/ps/Charles_Hapgood.html
John White:http://edgarcayce.com/cgi-bin/edgarcayce/poleshift.html
Some mysterious poster is posting things in Godlike productions about asteriods and meteors that are going to be hitting us soon. There is astronomical data also to back his stuff up. I think its very interesting to say in the least, and alarming to say in the least also.
Here I will quote some of his posts:
T-199.80..:-5-004.1.887(993.56)ETA:-24:34.INC
T-005.83..:-5-004.3.733(447.34)ETA:-05:51.INC
T-003.48..:-6-004.5.735(693.72)ETA:-10:37.INC?
Intersting the way he coded it. Maybe I should "uncode" some of it for you. But if I do all the fun will be spoilt. So I will simply clarify a few things here and there.
- is +
ETA:- Estimated Time of Arrival
T- is t minus and counting....the times are mixed up but correct...YOU decide which one will hit first.
INC is Incoming Now Confirmed.....as you can see there is a question mark. It is a vital clue...by the way...THAT one is the one we are really worried about. It is somewhat unpredictable and none of us can explain why. THAT is why it is called an "anomaly"...UNKNOWN.
MDC:-DIA=1.43..AU VEL as follows:-0.000234 LS
:-0.000138 LS
:-0.000319 LS
The above is clear enough for you to work out.
AHHH...now we have some intersting numbers here.
PTOI is Projected Time Of Impact.
The numbers are self explanatory....WE is west and SE is South east. YOU know what the numbers mean...just look at a map and work it out. The mumbers COULD be (hint)in reverse order or mixed up...but they are correct. I don´t want to take all the fun out of it for you.
(^&.99) IS a percentage probability...you were correct.
PTOI 1.9558.56 WE 10098.56 SE TTI+ETA(^&.99)
ETS SH=27/6/04? Tracking VEL US at this time.
PROJECTED POA UNKNOWN
PSM is PER SIMULATION MODEL
The numbers are hours or days...or both (hint) have fun.
T-199.80..:-5-004.1.887 INBOUND AT (sec.com) NAV 335.78+09.456(EMP=.0045) PSM.0012.
To put it all into plain english I will say this. PAY ATTENTION PLEASE. Work this out and you will have all your answers.
There are THREE incomong objects. TWO of them we know a lot about...but the third one is an unknown...all we know is it is coming and it has a high probability of hitting us. The other two WILL hit us. Along with these three main objects are many many smaller ones...it will rain death all over the world for a week or so. The death rain as we call it will begin late june. Leading up to june you can expect a wonderful light show as millions of small meteorites enter our atmosphere. And NO...this has nothing to do with "nibiru" I keep saying look south...but it is hard for most of the world to do this...unless you live down under and know exactly where to look and WHAT to look for. Immediatley preceeding the impacts, the earth...in fact the entire solar system...will be shrouded in thick black space dust. NASA will try..and indeed they already ARE trying to knock these objects of course. Next month is their last chance. ALL the sattelites including the ISS will be obliterated and re enter the atmosphere causing the release of tons of toxic fumes into our air. Breathing will become very difficult and toxic debris will rain down everywhere. Do you have any idea just how much plutonium orbits our planet? A f**kING LOT. NOT to mention the release of toxic fumes as the sattelites burn up. On top of that you have multiple impacts all over the world and tidal waves like you could not imagine sweeping EVERY coastline around the world. THERE WILL BE NO PLACE TO HIDE. THOSE who for some reason survive will soon wish they had NOT. AFTER this all occurs humanity will emerge from their burrows...those that had one and lived....and proceed to kill eachother just to keep living. The government will take control...or try to...and enforce their will on ALL. THE safest place to be is australia well away from the coast...but even THAT is only a guess at this time because we simply do not know what "anomaly" will do as yet.
So to counter all this we have a lot of distractions at present...wars...torture...beheadings...and for some reason interst rates are about to go up again. Keeps everyone focussed on the here and now....or next year....ANYTHING but next month!! Watch the CNN...get all the latest "fair and balanced" CRAP...keep your minds away from next month...keep it focussed on the elections and "next year"...keep focussed on you debts...keep focussed on the "war on bullsh*t"...UP the bullsh*t alert to RED...declare martial law...and BAM...they got ya trapped. Nowhere to run and no WAY to run. Seems funny how they want to do all this NEXT MONTH HMMMMMMMM??????!!!!!
Now....you can believe all this and...you still die...OR you can label me a fruitloop and you STILL die.....either way you still die...and if you go to the beach and hang around it will be quick at least. Make the most of it and stock up on some tinkle and some smoke if you smoke it and have a wild beach party and see the doom in with a bang. Better than hiding in some miserable hole and dying for nothing.
This was his last post:
IF everyone knew who I was and where I am...you would at this time be running for the hills in a big way. I will soon be posting very credible and verifiable information...NO MORE RIDDLES. THIS forum is tagged now....so I will not stuff around much longer. You wonder WHY I get so ticked at you idiots. So many days of doom have come and gone...so many different scenarios of doom...and NOT ONE of them has even come close to revealing the wolf. They skirt around it and mention all the signs. Now the time for the real show to begin and everybody is laughing...as planned. But it IS frustrating. The nibiru crowd...paid by the gov....the photon belt crowd...the same...they are ALL paid to give ANY explanation EXEPT the real one. False dates are common...keeps you in fear and when it comes and goes back to sleep you go. You have been steadily desensitised over the years to doom. ALL THOSE MOVIES OF LATE!!!Now it is on our doorstep....and laughter is all we hear...and I cannot blame you in a way. The PTB has done rather well. I cant blame them. Can you imagine the UTTER CHAOS that would result if we all knew the truth. WHAT IF they had told you all the truth ten years ago....no more babies...no more industry...just a ten year long party of "eat drink and be merry....for in ten years we all die"....THINK about it. NOW we will see what its all been about...all the wars...the fighting over oil....the constant distractions...the recent influx of meteorites...the weird behaviour of our sun....the weird orbit of the moon...the wobble of our axis...the warming of the atmosphere and oceans...ALL DUE TO FRICTION.....and the friction is due to the dust. And it will get worse and worse. WHAT about all the wild and wooly weather...record temps....hot when it should be cold and so on? Global warming my (c). Did you ever wonder exactly WHY they only started talking about it shortly after the cloud was first detected in the late 70´s.? They had to come up with a plausible reason for what they knew was coming. Then they reasoned that not everyone would be so gullible...so they created nibiru and photon belts and half a dozen OTHER explainations...but the dust cloud was long buried...until NOW...and suddenly.....THE FORUM f**kS UP WITH HACKS AND TRIPS. TAGGED...like so many others I have visited. I will not tell you which ones...I dont want to give them a trail and I NEVER post from the same computer in more than one forum. THEY want me BAD....but tough sh*t to them. Laugh if you want...its what they programmed you to do....but I promise you...the days of laughter are fast coming to an end. When I expose them...this forum will cease to exist. THEN...onto another one from a different location. Only a few weeks left. I am suprised I have posted THIS much without them shutting it down. I have already stated what WILL happen and WHEN....but I have not been exactly specific...for a purpose....but very soon I will...and then...well....its over.
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Now TO ME this all sounds legit, and very interesting. I think this man could be very right, given his astronmical data. More can be found here: http://forum.dreamexpedition.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=195&PN=1&TPN=3
Here is a new picture from SOHO which shows a cluster of asteroids(?) coming into view. http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=2644
Give me some feedback
amazing, thats what i been saying the whole time, and you know this also
THe moon has been acting VERY strange lately. Its been late every nite since like 2 weeks ago by as much as an hour at most.
I found more on this Aussie Bloke guy in this forum http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi? . There you can find info on the moon being late also.
Here I will quote a post from some guy on that forum who did his own research and confirms that everything AussieBloke is saying is true, and gives links to information where you can find information for yourself also.
Here is the quote:
quote:
THE HARD SCIENCE SOURCE OF DOOMSDAY (ALA AUSSIE BLOKE)
There's nothing like a good apocalyptic prediction to wet everyone's whistle. If you haven't been following the prophetic doomslinging of Aussie Bloke, you have really been missing out. Start here to get caught up:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=1&topic=3&message=321101&mpage=1&showdate=5/11/04
You may want to start at the end, however, by reading WhiteHorseRider's concise breakdown of Aussie Bloke's central predictive code:
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=2685
My read on Aussie Bloke is that he was trying to direct us to the source of the problem, as well as telling us the details of what is going to happen in the near future. I think I have uncovered some evidence pointing to the source.
The Amateur Astronomy Foundation has some free online courses in astrophysics. One course in particular outlines what happens when a supernova wave front hits the Oord Cloud and the Kuiper Belt located in the outer reaches our solar system. The effect is clearly a disruption of dust and comets surrounding the solar system, and a heating and compression of the solar system as a whole. The compression kicks dust particles and comets from the surrounding Oord Cloud and Kuiper Belt into the central solar system.
Specifically, the result of a supernova wave front interacting with the dust in the solar system is explained. The unperturbed solar system maintains a balance between the self-gravity and the pressure from the dust that permeates out from the Sun in a sphere. When a supernova hits our solar system, it compresses these dust particles causing the self-gravity to defeat the pressure. The result is an increase in dust particles and comets intruding into the core of the solar system. This dust consists of higher elements cooked in the center of stars. Sounds pretty toxic. Maybe someone is trying to figure out how to protect humanity from radioactive particulate matter penetrating the atmosphere (Chemtrails).
Two other effects from supernova interaction with the solar system would be a heating of the core and a flattening of the solar system into a disc. Obviously we are heating up. Not much needs to be said about this other than it is a fact. The flattening of the solar system into a disc would result in bringing all the objects in the Oord Cloud and Kuiper Belt closer to us, basically. This will increase the risk of impact from comets and increase the density of radioactive dust in our general vicinity.
Due to copyright, you will have to go read the hard science materials on their website. The link starts you at the front page (as they requested), and then you navigate as follows:
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~swadhwa/aaf.html
Click on "Foundation Courses"
Click on "ASRT 201 Diploma of Amateur Astronomy"
Click on "Comparative Planetology"
Click on "Lecture 10"
Read the all of lecture 10. It is terribly scientific and specifically describes the Aussie Bloke scenario as not just highly possible, but known fact. Radioactive dust and comets intruding into our neighborhood will clearly be a major concern if our solar system encounters a supernova wave.
Now, I totally beleive this cat.
Funny thing is.... everything I have been reading abuot lately, about the things to come, the current events also, and with my own intuition of what things are to come based on my knowledge, it is completely aligned with everything that that infamous Oazaki has been yappin about. [:O][:O][:O]
Yea, except maybe for the time scale.... or maybe that is right too.... we don't know yet if in the next couple weeks we will see time speeding up. This AussieBloke says that we will see the first impact in June, but like I said, if time speeds up like Oazaki said then... you know, you know EXACTLY what I am talking about.
Looks like, my faith, and everyone else's faith, and Oazaki's faith, combined, along with all of our "knowing" on the deeper unconscious levels of our beings have manifested these things to occur.
Yep, we are in for some AWESOME times!
I always knew something was going to happen but now we have the technology and the information to prove it.
From "Aussie Bloke" -
"So before I go I will give you an appoximate date to expect the arrival of the cloud in full force.
18th-20th June Impact 1)24-25th Impact 2)26th-27th "anomaly"....unknown effect but current estimates are not too encouraging. Diameter uncertain. mass uncertain. What IS known is this...it is composed mostly of a crystalline substance of unknown consistency. Some have speculated that it could be a chunk of diamond from the core of a gas giant...who knows. But it is weird and fast and coming this way. It is NOT a comet...NOR a planet...it is nothing like we have ever seen before. That is why we do not know what it will do if and when it hits us. Have a laugh now...I know you will..WE did at first too when we first detected it."
Deciphered codes by Saxon -
Asteroid No. Time to Impact Data Date Incoming Velocity Asteroid Radius Density Time of Arrival
199 80 days 3-30-04 .887 L/h (222k mph) 993yds(d=1.13mile) 56lb/ft**3 6/18-20 12:34am
005 83 days 3-30-04 .733 L/h (183k mph) 447yds(d=.51mile) 34lb/ft**3 6/24-25 5:51am
003 84 days 3-30-04 .735 L/h (184k mph) 693m(d=.79mile) 72lb/ft**3 6/26-27 10:37am
Asteroid 003 arriving in June has velocities which are varying and therefore draw it´s arrival date into question.
Asteroid 199 has mass around 3.26 x 10**11 lbs which is about 163 million tons.
Needless to say their POA (Plan of Action) is UNKNOWN. The estimated "miss" probability for asteroid 199 is 0.45%
The velocity of the preceeding meteorite shower is being tracked and the maximum shower intensity is being keyed to the last asteroid 003 to " 27/6/04?"
The initial asteroid looks to be impacting around the Falkan Islands off the coast of South America.
QuietStorm,
quote:
Ozakai say:
also, as for those interested, i'll say that june and september are the other two very critical time windows this year during which some very... dramatic... things will be occuring on this here planet
rOVERT BRUCE: i CANNOT KNOW THIS:i AM NOT A STUPID FOOLMENT...
ROVERT BRUCE: I CANNOT KNWO THIS: iAMNOTA STUPID FOOLMENT>>>demon 1
When it learned of the truth of the Truth, it decided to continue anyway, deluding itself purposely, because it had found a worthy opponent; but I do not have boundless, ceaselss, energy for dead-end activities.
It was necessary to inform it that my mind does not contain all knowledge in such a way that I was telling myself: within is energy field this knowledge was: had never left~ [:O]
it gave me the credit for the reversal of my own "sexual conditioning" using a state that i would believe it though it was lying--sychophanting: therefore it knew that it was true under its mistaken terms.
Ghesitation is called by demon 1: shame
It continued to draw attn to the hair on my calves, because that must mean I don't knwo what Im doing, even though at one time it meant that i did--this is just it (1s) way of razzing me into an response mode that i do not have~
RE: your brother's device. it may be true,n, at some level, but mostly imaginary I would assume~
Coca-cola will help dissolve the impedimenta of eating BK/also use it as a fild antiseptic>>if it eats away the nail enamel of your teeth~~
I was once called the Prime Perceiver: it detected my intelligence re: valuse analysis~
Kevin Nealments might apply (prepare the way)
This is a commedian who satires subconscous suggestion~
He talks over whis shoulder to someone no on else can see.......
This conception of that band lboy was subject to an incredibly long account of some woman related to thems problems--ther was blod and 2 and all kinds of things on her floor and she was shown as being all alone awith ti, for months or years
who is the ORIGINAL AUTHORITARIAN? not satan
His power place is always condensed; ERD CHAKRA
tHIS WOMAN WAS COMPARED TO ONE OF THE HONORED MATRES IN DUNE, AS A LESS ESXPERIENCED VERSION OF ME, SHE WAS SENT TO DUNE WITH THEIR FIRST EXPERIENCE OF GOD, A LEMUR
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ORIGINAL COPY: Robt Bruce: I cannot know this I am not a stupid foolment>>Demon ONE(not in originalcopy)
Percepticon
Wendi, what the hell are you talking about?
Ok, Wendi what were you trying to say?
quote:
also, as for those interested, i'll say that june and september are the other two very critical time windows this year during which some very... dramatic... things will be occuring on this here planet
Ahh, yes, I guess I forgot about that, or perhaps missed it.
Yes, so it could be that Oazaki has been right after all. :)
Although this AussieBloke has "disproved" planet Nibiru, I still beleive in it, because he may not know of it. Perhaps that "anomoly" is planet nibiru, or perhaps not.
I'd liek to know though... is the sun's "Dark Twin" the same as "Nibiru"?
I think Oazaki has stated that the sun's dark twin is Erecthus, or something like that, so it may be different from planet nibiru....
Oh well.
Check out Kirael.com. He says that in June, the Venus transit will occur, and that Venus will be aligned with the earth the Sun. He says that this will cause something great to happen. First of all he says that Goddess energy will be released with this alignement, and also that poeple all accross the world will open up to their telepathic abilities, meaning that everyone will experience telepathy with each other... well only those open to it.
Oazaki spoke of the Dark Twin, saying that the Ancient Greeks called it Erechtheus, the Sumerians called it Nibiru, the Babylonians called it Marduk, and the Ancient Egyptians have it depicted in hieroglyphics as a red disk with wings.
Does anyone else find it interesting that Aussie Bloke home at GLP has been extremtly slow the last 24 hours and has now been shut down and replaced by some advertisement.
So.. anyone got anything more on this? Anyone had any dreams about this at all? Or visions, thoughts, premonitions, etc?
Oh, and Bobll - what is Aussie Bloke's homepage URL?
Thats a bit odd....I had a dream recently that involved me staring into the sky towards the moon, and me coming across a spirit/entity/guide I have encountered before. Now im confused as hell. My post elsewhere discusses seeing it again, and how I am never comfortable around it, but it is never hostile. I thought it related to the death of one of my family friends, but now that I realize it references the sky, its spooky...
It's funny looking back and seeing signs that you haven't previously recognised in your dreams, but now you can because of new thoughts you've been having, eh?
I had a very similar thing with one of my dreams - it was a dream that I saw as telling me that what was to come, would happen very quickly, and with very little warning. And that the danger would go from nothing, to tremendous in very little time. And now, after reading all this stuff recently about comets, I've realised that the symbolism has been WAY too similar for it to be meaningless.
On another note (I've been trying to find as many sources as I can for this, to eliminate the chance of it actually being a hoax, but I've got a feeling it's not...), have a look at this link:
http://www.safehaven.com/article-1597.htm
It's just a financial site, not a new-age one or whatever... but it says:
quote:
Let me just say from the outset that the Federal Reserve has confirmed our Stock Market Crash forecast by raising the Money Supply (M-3) by crisis proportions, up another 46.8 billion this past week. What awful calamity do they see? Something is up. This is unprecedented, unheard-of pre-catastrophe M-3 expansion. M-3 is up an amount that we've never seen before without a crisis - $155 billion over the past 4 weeks, a $2.0 trillion annualized pace, a 22.2 percent annualized rate of growth!!! There must be a crisis of historic proportions coming, and the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States is making sure that there is enough liquidity in place to protect our nation's fragile financial system. The amazing thing is, the Fed's actions mean they know what is about to happen. They are aware of a terrible, horrific imminent event. What could it be?
Go to the site and read it for yourself, but I mean... um... pieces of the puzzle falling into place or what?!? [?]
Edit: And another site... don't know how long this will be valid for, but check it out anyway. About half the page pertains to this.
http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm
Edit 2: 'nother site!
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=3558
The movie could be global warming propaganda.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2004/05-17-2004/insider/environment.htm
Interesting how NASA muzzled it's staff. [:O]
This gets more compelling each day...
(//forums/uploaded/SomeBloke/crash.jpg)
A striking picture... but I bet we're all still here next month.
Whoa, wicked pic man! [:)]
Lemme pull this out:
Revelations 18:
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen
...
7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
I pulled this from one of Oazaki's many posts. It doesn't prove anything really, but I think it basically suggests it's going to be VERY quick. Quite sudden. And this is based on my own view, my own conclusions. Primarily, it is based on a dream I had, and the way I feel about what is to come. And it makes sense for it to be sudden, too (at least to me).
Anyway, I don't think anyone on this forum is going anytime soon. I bet we're here for the afterwards [;)] ... but ultimately... we just have to see eh? I have definitely not set anything down in stone yet, but to be honest... this is the strongest connection I've felt to any of the suggested 'end of days' scenario, for lack of a better term. Transition is probably much better [;)]
But yeah... I've got a feeling it's going to be reallll quick, when it does happen. And I think it's going to happen sooner than most expect... but only God knows!
Im not sure about quick, like blindly out of nowhere, but I do think increasingly.
ALready with each year, the weather patterns degrade. The increasingly chaotic weather is an obvious affect from many factors, the ozone, global warming, the population, deforestation, and other resource depletion.
These are common sense factors though, and I believe that we will hit a peak point in the weather within four years, maybe six if we are lucky, and by that time Im sure other things will be on our mind as well.
The movie was an exageration of what can happen, and played it out as though a football in mid air, dropped like a stone from gravity, rather than flowing the distance.
If any of those scenarios were to occur, it wouldnt be simultaniously, and definately not as quick, this is has been pointed out regularly since the release.
The asteroid thing, although having nothing to do with the movie, is another doomsday scenario we all have an obsession with.
So many things can happen to us, and if were to occur, what was the point in stressing about it? I know most of you are, you are just playing with the idea, and relating as to why these things are happening in your own sense, but to those who are. Stop.
You could die tommorrow, or fifty years from now, but you will die, as we all will eventually.
Hell, I know if a meteor was going to hit and there was a slim chance of survival, I would probably end up getting certain things out of the way, finding the best view, and smiling as the burning rock hurtled towards me.
I liked the pic. It always gives me a warm sensation in my belly to see things like that.
do i believe the end is at near? or that the end is near for some? personally, i do not. One, by the end of this year, we will look back at this and wonder why or what made us think these things. its not that i dont believe, its just, i dont think this is the year for it.
madonafrk,
Hey I am very glad your participating in this post, I wish everyone would participate more in this, because I wish to hear everyones oppinions on this. But I do not want to force you into beliving some of the information me and the others have gathered but, I do want you to TRY to believe one thing.
I want you to believe that there is not going to be a end, but a new beginning, a clean record, nomore wars, nomore killing, one clean sweep, then a new start.
Its not going to be as bad as you think it is. Plus if you and I die, we will just be reincarnated back evwentually to live on the new earth. Its evolution my friend, your generation and mine, and others liekwise, go through life taking the most precious things for granted, like there home, Earth. We never stop and bother to think what Reaaly could happen to us. "Well it hasnt happen to my grandparents, no comets!" Well, comets have hit the earth before, theres been giant cataclismic(SP?) events like the Great flood, and the Ice age, and the passing of niburu 3600 years ago. In the bible they called it Wormwood.
Well, just sit and think about what you never think about in daily life. :)
Hmm. Plot thickens.
http://www.cassiopaea.org/signs/signs.htm
Seems that 'Aussie Bloke' could well be full of sh*t. Seems that he is not Grant Gartrell as claimed. Man. This is tinkling me off. I just wish I could get some straight answers without all this BS flying around.
Something is going to happen soon though. I've got a strong feeling it will be this month.
curious. Where did you read that?
I would be highly motivated to find out for myself, checking the news and media for terrorist alerts and what alert they are at, and checking astronomical events from different sources to find out whether or not that is true, and even if true, coincidence?
that is an interesting notion though.
Wow, the more you guys keep throwing the information out, the better the information gathered about this coming event.
Our government if you have noticed the past week(s) have been interesting, It is said that they will raise the terror alert to Red before the event happens. On CNN and the other major networks have been releaseing this information about our government alsudden coming out with this information concerning this 'terorist' on the loose with definent plans to 'attack' our homeland. lol NOW why would they say this junk unless they had to in order to raise the terror alert to red; which is pointless because you and I all know that when its on status 'RED' our counties, cities have to spend millions of extra dollars to maintain a higher state of security.
I'm probably wrong here but, thats why we have not had the terror status at Red for awhile! Make sense that they would do it right before the hit of the comets.
Now if you have followed through the links that I have given you in my original post, then your up to date on whats going on, and if you havnt and think its too boring well then at LEAST look at this link if you havnt already heard it..... Its a recording of a Art Bell coast to Coast show.
http://www.metatech.org/Art_Bell_Area_51_aliens_audio_tape.html
I just typed thsi real quick so sorry for any mis spellings and TERRIBLE grammer.
WTF HAH! no sh*t!! (Nay im not cussing nomore! *waits for candy*)
ill get better lol.
My Goodness, I'll [place my trust on the picture that its real. holy cow, I want one to hit my house!
In case anyone is interested, there was a big explosion from a meteor here in the Pac NW... pretty big flash and sonic booms and all that good stuff.
I know someone who's house had shaken from it. He thought it was an earthquake.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/meteor_washington_040603.html
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Originally posted by Kerrblur
WTF HAH! no sh*t!! (Nay im not cussing nomore! *waits for candy*)
ill get better lol.
My Goodness, I'll [place my trust on the picture that its real. holy cow, I want one to hit my house!
LOL..*hands Kerrblur a whole mess of candy*
Thanks Kerrblur, for keeping it all good..[:D]
Hugs~ Nay
Yea nay! ;) teach a dog a trick 3-12 times they learn sooner or later!
But anyway cool link Nidhananda Ill look into this. shoot, keep piling in the links thaT YOU get!
you wanna know my opinion? i couldnt care less if the world got hit with a comet or global warming or whatever yall are panicking about. yall are saying that the world is gonna turn into total chaos and yall are doing a good job at starting it so far!
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Originally posted by SomeBloke
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A striking picture... but I bet we're all still here next month.
This looks like Moon fallen on Earth.
People feared that would actually happen before the ideas of gravity or smth. The picture gives a rather sick idea of meteors. However, it is striking, and I'm sure that's what you had in mind. [;)]
Meteors fall on Earth all the time. Most of them are destroyed as they pass through the atmosphere.
Meteors are I'm afraid the greatest danger to us.
Did you know that it's highly probable that it was a meteor that ended the rule of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago? about 95% of all living was destroyed. Wouldn't hope that humans would survive this right? However, I saw a documentary that we have some sort of thing that could destroy a meteor. Some sort of rocket. A very unique one. I think the russians had it. NOt sure, though.
But that a meteor would kill us the next year? No. I don't think so.
By the way,
If a Moon-sized meteor would decide to hit us, then I'm afraid even all nuclear weapons and the fire-arm arsenal of men couldn't make a difference.
Little meteors fall down to earth all the time(since not all of them burn in the atmosphere).
As a matter a fact, If you heard of Homeros' "ODYSSEY", then the so-called "Fireland" there should be the moment where a famous meteor falls to Estonia.
Cool.
I don't think anyone mentioned this, but on June 3rd a large meteor flew over Washinton State. Here is a link to the story: http://www.komotv.com/stories/31552.htm
Also, on June 10th an explosive meteor suppossedly made an appearance over New Zealand. Here is the link: http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0%2C2106%2C2937159a7693%2C00.html
:)
Yea, there was also a second one that hit yesterday (June 12, 2004) and landed on a family's couch. Here's the story: http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_nationa...438?format=html
Here's another link for the first meteor that you are talking about Half-Phased: http://www.mytown.co.nz/story/mytstorydisplay.cfm?thecity=hawkesbay&thepage=news&storyID=3571753&type=nzh
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NEWS ALERT FROM THE SURVIVAL CENTER, JUNE 13, 2004
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=4301
We have been receiving a lot of information on potential asteroid/space debris hitting earth as soon as this month. We HAVE NOT been able to verify this...
Funny I seem to remember they were advising everyone to run for the hills a week or two ago - maybe I'm thinking of some other site.
Really? I didn't know.
It provides alot of links to articles that could be reguarded as "evidence", but confirmation? I don't think we will get "official" confirmation of an asteroid coming from our freindly government till like the day before it hits, or perhaps no "official" statement at all will be made by them.
Though, there is one link that leads to an article from National Geographic which states that there could be asteroids headed our way that could destroy cities very soon, and I think this article was written on May this year (correct me if I am wrong). The article is good for publicity, but though nobody seems to pay attention to it, or even care about it if they did. The mass media routinely glamourizes "human interest" topics like sports, entertainment, sex, and violence, yet they can't even at least give a minute to warn people of the the Earth changes that are headed our way. They do this to "keep life normal", so that there isn't any chaos. They could break the news in a more comforting way and spread the news the way we "spiritually aware" folks view the whole situation, but then again, certain government officials are greedy and want to ensure a spot for survival first than any others. Do they even care about human rights? I don't think so, especially when they are not even aware that some group of entities are using them as chess peices on the "chessboard" we know as Earth.
Ahh well, they will get whats comin though, we will see. :)
There's definitely been a sudden increase in the number of asteroids coming close to Earth, and there will be more. I think you're right, if a big one really was going to hit, most governments would prefer people not to know.
especially when they are not even aware that some group of entities are using them as chess peices on the "chessboard" we know as Earth.
And the numerous chess-players each think they're going to win...
Why are the stakes so high? Why are they all playing? Do they hope to inherit a planet desolated by an asteroid or is something much more subtle going on? I dunno.
This is what I have been saying, The more you people bring in the information following mine and the all the previous ones that people have handed to this thread, its becoming more and more evident that a coming event is to happen, then following the crossing of the planet. So I'll tell you right now what I am doing, I am going about my life as if I do not know anything ...
(BTW I sent you guys a link to this radio Recording from Art Bell and a Area 51 gu that called who listened to it? http://www.metatech.org/Art_Bell_Area_51_aliens_audio_tape.html)
this is going to stop all wars, all terrorism, all suicidal(SP?) bombings, its going to spark the new beginning! going to be awesome.
somebloke, its subtle, there will be no demons, or any kind of STS races that will suceed in getting there hands on our land, the zetas and others will not allow it to happen ever, there are a good dozen races looking after us right now as we speak, and if you wish to get ahold of them, its just a thought away also heh :)
So I'll tell you right now what I am doing, I am going about my life as if I do not know anything ...
Very good advice! Basically it's all too complicated to get a handle on the whole thing with our feeble human conscious minds - literally mind-blowing. It's interesting how some people have the scientific aliens/extra dimensional beings take on it, others might call an 'extra dimensional being' an astral entity, or if they were malevolent they might call them a demon!
I could ramble on about this stuff, but I think that even if we had the full picture your advice would still be the best for the moment. [:D]
Zetas?
I dunno about you but I wouldn't trust a Zeta more than I would trust myself. That is also not to say that I wouldn't let a Zeta help me, it's just that you have to be more cautious, I have read things that the Zetas might be more deceiving than you think, and I heard they might be part of the New World Order.
Anyways.. your advice is good. At times when I am alone, I live like it is going to happen, and at times that I am not I live like it is not going to happen.
It is a bit off-putting to have read so many clues, and so much "evidence" that events will be occuring, yet no "official" confirmation (through TV, radio broadcast or commercial news websites) at least for those who don't know of the Earth Changes.
Now why would some organization want to take control of planet Earth when is bound to be destroyed. Well on the surface of things I think it is the greed, and the fear of the events that are going to happen which are fueling their "need" to dominate planet Earth. They know that there are going to be Earth changes and they even made plans to stay in power over us even when and after these Earth changes occur, but I think our SPIRIT won't let this happen.
I KNOW that when these Earth changes occur, the humans (and perhaps help from other entities) won't let this continue. I have chosen to belevie in Oazaki's writings because they ring true in my Heart, and it is in consensus with what my Heart desires. The fulfillment of my Heart's desires is something I beleive myself to be able to attain with the power of "knowing".
This all is very subtle. But I think there is a purpose behind everything. The domination by this organization has let us work for our freedom, and has given us as a collective consciousness many many lessons. After all, as souls we all agreed to be here before we were born. We all agreed to experience this journey in these bodies, and these events, for the sake of experience, and we all came here to make the most of these experiences, and learn to experience ourselves experiencing what it is that we are experiencing and what we'd like to experience. ;)
Remember?
I don't! LOL
But I seem to "know" it.
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well all i have to say Quiet Storm, you have the same thoughts as i do. but your mixed thoughts on the zetas is understandable. i am telling you now that the zetas, saying if there bad, will not matter because there definently is a multi-dimentional race out there watching over us. they are preparing us, helping our governments, along with the bad ones. . . the problem is, we have been in contact with the bad opnes first, so i have no clue whats happenings now with that situation. i was watching fox news just yesterday and they were talking about 'unusual movement'of navy ships in the pacific ocean. he government replied saying it was routine.
umm guys, a "house" sized meteor fell on australia today. I just ran across this article: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,9869458%255E421,00.html and have not double checked it.
quote:
'House-sized' meteorite hits
From news.com.au staff and AAP
June 17, 2004
A METEORITE reportedly the size of a house fell on the NSW south coast overnight, exploding in a bright flash, police have said.
A driver on the Hume Highway shortly after 9pm (AEST) near Menangle reported an object the size of a house falling from the sky.
The object fell east of the Hume Highway, possibly in an escarpment near the top of a hill at Bulli, police were told.
The meteorite was described as glowing silver in colour and similar to an artillery shell when it exploded with a bright flash on impact.
Workers at the Sydney Airport Tower said they saw a meteorite about 9pm, police said.
No other reports were received by police and extensive police patrols of the area for more than an hour did not turn up the space debris.
"We went out to check if it was something bad, like a plane," said a police spokesman.
"However we didn't find anything - there was no bloody great rock sitting in the middle of the highway, anyway".
Police intend on talking to the original witness again later today in an effort to pinpoint the impact site, but admit that unless someone literally stumbles over the meteorite, the chances of finding it are slim.
Just a *wink* heads-up [:D] If anyone else can confirm this, let us know.
As for the Zeta's I do not know what is up with them. I read a book done by a remote viewer who claims that we are in contact at present with Zetas from different parts of their existence. Some of the ones we are dealing with come from a more turbulent and desperate time and others from a more advanced, benevolent, and spiritual time.
Wow thats amazing information holy-cow! it it crazy that the longer we go through june, there are more anbd more comets and meteors hitting the earth!! And right now it is June 18, 2004, lol Were going to find out if anything happens this month or next! And plus, A house-sized Meteor would be hitting the news wouldnt it? or would it be kept secret to keep the public under better control? Well either way I am definently getting better convinced when I am reading all this crap about space excrement hitting the earth. I am watching the news everyday waiting for some kind of evidence on something coming.
but there is a link that nagual has posted on another thread http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5234058/ That talks about a comet that apparently has no known peers of its kind from this solar system. . . if the NON-short attention span people are actually reading these links, you can maybe aggree with me that this space object might of been propelled/Dragged in our solar system by a much larger mass, perhaps a mass comparable to a planet's mass(Planet Nibuiru).
Another thing to make you guys think about, and look for is, the major sudden support from president Bush to jump start the space travel, NASA, and the 400 million dollar budget, because of there knowledge of the un avoidable events to come. . . ill post something little later
Presidential panel urges NASA overhaulAn earlier version of this story took a quote about the need for cultural change at the space agency out of context. Commission chairman Edward Aldridge said cultural as well as structural changes were needed, but that the report released today was "not a vote of no confidence" in NASA.
In an echo of the Columbia Accident Investigation Board's report last year, the commission appointed by U.S. President George Bush to recommend ways to implement his vision for getting NASA back to the moon and on the way to Mars missions, called today for significant changes in the way NASA is run.
Edward C. (Pete) Aldridge, chairman of the President's Commission on Implementation of United States Space Exploration Policy, said the report released today is not a "vote of no confidence" in NASA, but a blueprint for the changes the space agency must embrace if it is to take maximum advantage of the clearest presidential directive its been given in decades.
Speaking at a press conference at George Washington University to release the commission's report, Aldridge said the commission was convinced that NASA headquarters and the agency's field centers throughout the country must be streamlined and operated with modern business management practices.
"Changing the cultural nature of people will take a little longer time but that's what we are proposing to do," Aldridge said. "This is a tremendous thing for NASA. For years they didn't have a direction that's been clearly articulated by the president."
The commission's 60-page report, "A Journey to Inspire, Innovate, and Discover," recommends a significant reduction in the number of departments at NASA headquarters and restructuring the agency's field centers in the mold of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., which is run for NASA by the California Institute of Technology.
The commission also recommended the creation of a White House office to oversee all of the government's involvement in space including civil, military and commercial space issues.
The last time such an office existed was during the administration of the current president's father, George H.W. Bush. From 1989 to 1992 Vice President Dan Quayle oversaw the White House National Space Council, a concept that had also been used during the Eisenhower administration when NASA was created.
John Logsdon, director of the Space Policy Institute at George Washington University, said the commission's proposal, if adopted by NASA and approved by Congress and the White House would constitute "the most radical transformation of how NASA does business since NASA was created."
No base closings suggested
Logsdon said the most radical of the commission's recommendations was the proposal to transform NASA field centers into Federally Funded Research and Development Centers (FFRDCs). He acknowledged that there would likely be resistance to that idea inside NASA and in the Congress.
"I think it is going to be a hard row to plow," said Logsdon, who was a member of the Columbia Accident Investigation Board.
Nevertheless, the report's recommendations were not as radical as some steps that had been recommended during the commission's public hearings such as closing some NASA facilities by using the same Base Realignment and Closure process that the Pentagon has used to close military bases.
"If we put into our report that NASA should undertake a base realignment and closure activity, the report would have been burned on the first day," Aldridge said.
Aldridge said he does not expect the transition to FFRDCs to happen right away and also acknowledged that it would take time, particularly to counter political resistance.
Aldridge said that in his view the most important Commission recommendations were the creation of a Space Exploration Steering Council reporting to the White House, the reorganization of NASA headquarters and getting Congress to approve the increase in NASA's 2005 budget requested by the Bush administration.
Another strong Commission recommendation was getting NASA to turn launch activity that does not involve astronauts over to the private sector.
Aldridge said NASA needs to trust the private sector to launch supplies to the space station and then transform the way it does business with launch providers. He said the high level of government oversight on such launches is not necessary.
Aldridge said he also favors getting NASA to agree to buy data from entrepreneurs willing to take the risk of launching their own scientific spacecraft and to adopt more of what is known in the industry as delivery-on-orbit contracts where the government pays only once the contracted spacecraft has been successfully placed in orbit and starts producing data. He said it was one way to reduce the excessive amount of government oversight.
At the same time Aldridge said NASA needs to maintain strict oversight of human spaceflight activities.
Aldridge told reporters the Commission's report was delivered to U.S. Vice President willy Cheney at 11 a.m. EDT. He characterized Cheney's response as positive. After the meeting Aldridge said he thought Cheney would be amenable to a space council, noting that he was familiar with it from first Bush administration when he served as Secretary of Defense.
'Pay-as-you go' budget
Neil deGrasse Tyson, a member of the commission and director of the Hayden Planetarium in New York, said it is important that Congress understand that the Bush vision is affordable on a pay-as-you go basis.
He noted that during the 1960s when the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs were conducted, NASA spent about $17 billion a year in today's dollars. "We know that we can do great things at that budget level," he said. "We're not just pulling this out of the ether and hoping something can happen."
The commission also recommended that NASA seek the involvement of international partners for the exploration of the moon and Mars and that the United States make the commercialization of space activity one of its top priorities in space through such incentives as tax incentives and prizes for technological innovation.
NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe, who attended the press conference, did not speak and declined to answer any questions from reporters.
O'Keefe did issue a statement on NASA's web site, which read: "The recommendations released today by the commission will influence our work for years to come and will help guide us through a transformation of NASA," O'Keefe said. "The specific details of this transformation will be announced in the days and weeks ahead and will be reflected by foundational changes in our organization and the way we do business."
Got this from surfingtheapocalypse.com:
Surprise Meteor Shower Possible in June
By Joe Rao
SPACE.com's Night Sky Columnist, SPACE.com
Meteor enthusiasts will likely be out in force in the coming nights, hoping to catch a glimpse of an on-again, off-again meteor display. Special emphasis will be placed on two specific nights: June 22-23 and June 26-27.
Ironically, the month of June is usually not noteworthy for any major meteor showers.
Yet six years ago, during the final weekend of June 1998, sky watchers worldwide were caught off guard by an unexpected shower of bright meteors and fireballs.
From Japan, for instance, came reports of meteors that were visible even through heavily overcast skies. Reports from visual observers in other regions suggested that this surprise meteor display produced meteor rates of anywhere from 50 to 100 per hour and lasted more than half a day.
Similar bursts of June meteor activity were noted many decades ago, in 1916, 1921 and again in 1927. Because the meteors seemed to fan-out from a region of the sky near the northern border of the constellation of Bootes, the Herdsman, they became popularly known as the "June Bootids."
and here's the link to the article on Yahoo: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=96&ncid=753&e=10&u=/space/20040618/sc_space/surprisemeteorshowerpossibleinjune
Here's more articles to the "house sized meteor" sighting: http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1274&storyid=1491335
http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/articles/2004/06/18/1087245073053.html
And another article which was posted on Rense.com yesterday about Threat
From Taurid Meteors: http://rense.com/general53/filers61704.htm
Art Bell gets a Frantic Call from an Ex-worker of Area 51,
about earth changes
The following tape was sent to me by a webfriend named Teri. It is a short segment from a radio show that Art Bell did, I understand, in 1997.
The tape is only a few minutes long. Listen to this tape. It may be one of the most important few minutes you have ever spent. This tape may have special significance now that information is coming out about Planet X.
On the night this tape was made, Art had asked workers of Area 51 to phone in and spill the beans about Area 51. He may have got more than he bargained for.
When you listen to this tape, listen to your intuition. Listen to you gut reaction. Feel this guy's emotion. If you get chicken-skin (goose-bumps), I believe that is your higher self telling you that what you hear is the truth.
When you hear silence on the tape - keep listening. There is more after a fairly long break. The silence is because within 2.08 minutes of speaking, the caller was knocked off the phone line. There was a massive shut down.
I am told that on the very next program Art said they found out what the problem was: Their satellite had LOST EARTH LOCK. That means, it was KNOCKED OUT OF POSITION!!! What would have the immense power and capability to knock one a satellite out of position so quickly???
I have been told by one person that the same guy was on the Art Bell show some time later and he said that he was only joking. All of what he was saying was acting to kind-of pull Art's coat tails. He has been on other times since and done different but similar jokes. He did say that he was surprised that Art was knocked off of the air. He had no explanation for that.
Teri said: "I only heard him call in one other time after that and he said something to the effect that he was "better" now". If he did in fact say that, does that sound like a practical joker to you?
There are other possible explanations for why someone later phoned in claiming it was a joke:
1) How do we know for sure it was the same guy who rang back?
2) How do we know they didn't grab him, hypnotise him and then get him to phone in? This would be VERY easy for them to do.
Download MP3 File of Recording
http://www.metatech.org/Art%20Bell%20Area%2051%20Call.mp3
Please make your comments after you listen to this disturbing audio following the information that has been provided in this thread
That's very freaky.
So to summarize the video
"Aliens" are actually extra dimensional beings that an "earlier precursor of the space program made contact with", to quote the guy exactly.
Also, there are coming disasters that will wipe out millions of heavily populated areas and the government knows about them and can take actions to save everyone, but won't because they want a smaller population that's more easily controlled. So obviously, they'll head to the safe areas while we get wiped out.
I just hope portland is safe. Looks like all them meteor predictors might be right.
quote:
I am told that on the very next program Art said they found out what the problem was: Their satellite had LOST EARTH LOCK. That means, it was KNOCKED OUT OF POSITION!!! What would have the immense power and capability to knock one a satellite out of position so quickly???
Umm, how about a burned fuse? A failed solder? A short-circuit? Atmospheric distortion causing the connection to be lost?
Or, given that it's the Art show possibly giving the game away, the government just plain shutting down the uplink/downlink/whatever connection?
So a number of simpler questions are just as valid.
2cents & L&L
jouni
yea but the most relevant answer is to what was going on suring that interview. . . . common sense man
Let's assume for a second that the government we have here is smart and is weaving this conspiracy to let most of the world be destroyed and is doing this via these aliens, bla bla bla.
What do you think would be the dumbest thing to do when a guy starts blabbing about your program? Shutting him down on the spot. Why? Because it adds an air of validity to what he's saying. Make him quietly "disappear" quickly afterwards, but freakin bombing the connection is like saying, "It's all true!"
If that broadcast had gone on without being interrupted like that, I probably would have thought "Nice, but he's probably just crazy. Medical leave? Probably for insanity or something."
So, I gather that either
a) The government panicked and flipped the switch
If this is the case, they are either morons, or he was about to reveal something far worse and more important than he already did. Such as safe zones, what these extra-dimensional beings really are, dates, ect.
b) Art Bell did it (with his stations approval) to make it seem more real
If this is the case... well. Can't really prove it, but I don't think Art Bell would do this anyways.
c) It was a freak occurance
This is the second most possible conclusion. But we are talking satellite connection here. It would be extremely unlikely to have one just "break" in the middle of a broadcast.
Freaky, all in all.
xx
Everyone,
Listen, I have honoestly been listening to Art Bell for over 7 years every friday night, and in those 7 years of listening to him; There has not been on time where he has been cut off the air. Now, lets put together our knowledge on multi-dimentional beings, the planet X ariving(SP?), and the evident comets that are soon, or sometime soon going to hit the earth. Now when you listen to this audio recording, and you are listening to your 'higher-self' on this one, feeling the goose bumps you get on the back of your neck; Take my word for it when I say you have to believe such a recording. In the 7 years of listening to this man, that is very very very renowned in his hosting of coast to coast; would never ever stage such a event.
I will tell you right now, other times when he expected some kind of government employee to spill there guts, it NEVER happened, and in this recording, which I do DO remember listening to back in 97 long time ago, Someone from Area 51 Actually Called. I was flabber gasted by what I heard, I DID not ever hear it again until i miRaculously found a website with the recording of that night while back here!!! I couldn't believe it. Research this man Art Bell, You will know how honest he really is. His whole objective is to find truth and give it to the people, and this night, he got his blessing.
but with this ironic audio file and this evidence hitting us in the face, and meteors hitting the australian country, lol i think were in for something other than terrorist
Another meteorite -
http://www.news-leader.com/today/0619-Itwasloude-115160.html
wow thats ridiculous, did you listen to the audio tape?
Hey guys, I've quickly flipped through the pages of this thread and made a quick timeline of meteor and nasa related events. Kinda scary when you look at the spacing between each meteor hit/blow up
March 26
Illinois - Meteor falls through house, leaves hole in ceiling
June 4
Seattle - Meteor lights sky and makes sonic boom
June 10
New Zealand - Meteor enters earths atmosphere with a huge flash of light and a loud bang
June 12
Somewhere (can't get page to load), but it was posted on page 4, meteor hits and lands on families couch
June 16
Pacific Ocean - Unusual movement of ships in pacific ocean
June 17
Australia - House sized meteorite falls
June 17
Space - Comet Wild 2's makeup is like no other comet and leaves astronomers "astounded"
June 18
Intention to overhaul and revamp NASA announced (or at least the presidential panel is pushing for it)
June 19
Missouri, USA
Meteorite blows up with TWO very loud booms (2 meteorites?)
Tomorrow
June 22-23
Meteor Shower should be appearing
June 26-27
Another meteor shower should appear
Well, I love a good sky show, but the sky has been overcast for what feels like weeks now! I wonder if I'll see anything.
Do not worry, if things come to happen like there suppose to, either this month, or next, or sometime soon. lol i think everybody will see it, even through the overcast lol just start watching the south skies.
I saw this at Rumor Mill and looked interesting.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=51031
WATCH THE SKY TONIGHT! Scuttlebut and Other Strangeness
Posted By: Esclarmonde Date: Wednesday, 23 June 2004, 5:37 p.m.
On June 20, the date when Aussie Bloke said we could expect the Debris Cloud to manifest quite near Earth, SOHO closed its camera 'doors' presumably to protect the lens from damage. (Gee, I'm just sure it is a coincidence, aren't you?)
Spaceweather.com told us that the 'debris cloud' we are going through was left over from a comet that went by in the 1819: Comet P7 Pons-Winnecke. At least one layer of this debris cloud has been named: The June Bootids, due to its appearance in front of the Bootes Constellation.
However, there are several other 'debris rings' making their play towards the Earth right now. They all may come from the initial shock of Comet P7, or even P7 itself may have come from the shock of a Stellar Explosion that occurred around the time of Jesus birth. This Neutron explosion sent forth a shock wave of ionic particles which bumped against the Oort Cloud, creating both comets and smaller debris clouds, many which have an orbital affinity with the Planet Jupiter.
For instance, we also have the Phi Saggitarids; and, the June Aquilids, confirmed in 1968 by none other than Dr. Grant Gartrell!!!
http://users.lewiston.com/niemann/Meteors.html
The following link by a Japanese scientist gives an excellent summation (with pictures) of what might be happening with this rather large layered Debris Cloud which certainly appears to come FROM THE SOUTH. You'll notice the various rings of debris. Apparently each ring becomes its own group of asteroids.
http://kaicho.pobox.ne.jp/tenshow/meteor/7p2004/e1.htm
The following article suggests that everytime the Bootids have gone their course they appear to leave a 'circle' of debris, much like a toroid. Apparently we are due to go through as many as 4 of these layers of debris within the next few days:
http://www.space.com/spacewatch/bootid_meteors_040618.html
"In recent days, a different forecast for the June Bootids has been issued by Jerimie Vaubaillon of the Institut de Mécanique Céleste et de Calcul des Éphémérides, in Paris, France and Russians Sergey Dubrovsky and Sergey Shanov.
Their calculations suggest that the Earth will interact with a swarm of meteoroids that were ejected by Comet Pons-Winnecke at not just one, but several of its past visits to the Sun, most notably in 1819, 1825, 1830, 1836 and perhaps 1875. In addition, the predicted peak for this activity comes several days earlier than Rendtel's suggestion: Wednesday, June 23 at 11h GMT (7 a.m. EDT).
Western North America and the Pacific Ocean will still be in darkness at that time, and are favored with the best possible views. But should the activity last for many hours, then it could be worthwhile to carefully watch the sky from Tuesday night, the 22nd, on until the first light of dawn on Wednesday, the 23rd."
WE'LL SUMMARIZE WITH AUSSIE BLOKE'S ORIGINAL PREDICTIONS:
So before I go I will give you an appoximate date to expect the arrival of the cloud in full force: 18th-20th June.
Impact 1)24-25th
Impact 2)26th-27th "anomaly"....unknown effect but current estimates are not too encouraging. Diameter uncertain. mass uncertain. What IS known is this...it is composed mostly of a crystalline substance of unknown consistency. Some have speculated that it could be a chunk of diamond from the core of a gas giant...who knows. But it is weird and fast and coming this way. It is NOT a comet...NOR a planet...it is nothing like we have ever seen before. That is why we do not know what it will do if and when it hits us. Have a laugh now...I know you will..WE did at first too when we first detected it.
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The Bootids first show is tonight, the 23rd-24th; the second BIG Show happens to fall on June 27.
hmmm...
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SCUTTLEBUT HEARD ON E-STREET (being talked about and considered in various forums): ;-)
~~~~>We were 'barely missed' on the 20th by a large asteroid that would have pretty much changed all life on this planet as we know it. It passed within 75,000 miles of us. (The moon is about 250,000 miles from us, to give you an idea.) Think a lot of folks spent the evening of the 19th in their 'bunkers'. ;-)
~~~~>The real question at the moment is what are all the explosions going off in the ocean? Is it possible they are setting off Cold Fusion Nukes (no radiation) to dig big underwater trenches in an attempt to thwart tsunamis that might be caused by incoming asteroids?
A 6.1 Seismo reading off the coast of Florida (even though no quake) is the size of 25 Hiroshimas...or so. And the 6.9 registered in Venezuela on the 19th...is many times that. All very curious goings on.
~~~~>Did we say 'Cold Fusion Nukes'? Wasn't the beloved Dr. Eugene Mallove (murdered on May 14th) working on Cold Fusion? ...wondering...you don't suppose he thought this was a crazy idea, do you? One that might backfire?
There have been some larger than normal wave readings; and then there is that super typhoon that recently hit Japan.
~~~~>As for what just went across SOHO's screen...that was Mercury, which was behind the sun this time. Curiously, we are unable to watch its companion any longer. The Large 'shadowy' figure that showed up following behind it in early 2003. NASA changed the dif pics so the object would no longer be visible. However, the Cassiopeans said (back in the early 90's) that this was a 'stargate' and a 'base' of sorts used by the Zetas to enter our Solar System. Gee, and to think we have pictures of it...
Okay, we've stirred up enough trouble for one post...
;-)
E.
Quiet Storm,
Wow that is amazing information here! because I have seen meteors last 2 days, I have litterally been outside of my house watching the south and north skies. Now tonight(24) is one of the bigger nights, then I suggest anyone who is reading these posts, you and I and all the other participants(SP?) that also put there input and help in all this information we've gathered about this coming event, start watching outside for this. Its the end of the month now, or getting there, its the time, that this whole thread was basing this information on. . . Its the time that (some of us) have been kinda lol anticipating honoestly, aND others who read it and kinda get scared about and wish it not to happen.
But I think when this event happens, reather its this month, or next year, its going to solve all problems here on earth, its going to bring the people, I say people because Im speaking for everyone in the world together! its going to turn around the turmoil that has been building for the last 10 years.
And I've noticed there is alot of people reading this, 'Guests' and 'Silent Members' that have read this and havnt spent the time to place there input in all this information we put out here the last month or so. Too scared to voice there oppinion or just speechless cause of what we have put on here. I'd love to hear more input from others also! :) the more people help in this, the better the evidence and information flow in here! if you think about it, its to help everyone
Aussie Bloke Revived? http://www.truinsight.com/ (This website has alot of new info!)
I also found this : More Coverups of Cosmic Impacts?
By Michael Goodspeed
http://TrueSkeptic.com
In response to my recent article Why I Fear Toutatis (www.rense.com/general54/whyIfear.htm), I have received numerous emails from people who claim to have seen unusal fireballs and/or meteor activity in the United States over the past few weeks.
I also received a message from a resident of Los Angeles, who claims that he or she heard a report on an LA radio station of a "fireball" near LAX, which was described by witnesses as "appearing like an airplane falling from the sky, then exploding." This person also says that there were no reports of such an event anywhere in the media in the following days.
Here is the full email:
Hi Michael -
Just wanted to let you know, the friday night after
the explosion of the meteor over washington, I was
listening to the radio in LA. It was 2:30 am and the
traffic update came on. The announcer said
"Apparently a large explosion was seen over the
405/I-5 interchange near LAX. Callers described the
fireball as appearing like an airplane falling from
the sky, then exploding.." There was nothing about
this in the papers or anywhere else for that matter.
I was listening to 640am so go ahead and contact the
station to see if they have transcripts if you want
material evidence.
Just thought id let you know about that one.
Peace
TS
Shortly after receiving this message, I emailed the station (http://www.kfi640.com/main.html), asking for a transcript and/or verification of the alleged news report, but have not yet received a reply.
Interestingly, after reading this email, I did a word search on Google news for "LA fireball", and found a link to a story on a fireball in Oklahoma, published by the Alva Review Courier. The link, as it appears in Google, reads as follows:
Fireball Turns Midnight Sky Orange
Alva Review Courier, OK - Jun 20, 2004
By Helen Barrett. "I looked out the window, heard a big bang and saw a ball of orange fire," Jason Pritchard said of the lightning ...
(Link: http://news.mywebpal.com/news_tool_v2.cfm?pnpID=348&NewsID=555408&CategoryID=7227&show=localnews&om=1 )
Unfortunately, when I click on the link, I am taken to a blank page which reads, "No headlines entered." Then, when I did a word search for "fireball" on the website...I found ZERO matches. And then I searched the website's archives for June 20th for this story...and could not find it.
I then did a Google news word search for "fireball" and "oklahoma"...and found ZERO matches.
Hmmm...
If the original headline in the Alva Review Courier was correct...and the account of the LA radio report of a fireball explosion near LAX occurred as described by "TS"...
Why have these reports VANISHED and/or not appeared anywhere else?
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I realize that alot of things MIGHT be happening, because we have alot of "heresay" to back this up. I do not want that the "big one" that is supposed to send Florida under the waves of the Atlantic to hit us just yet. I have had a number of visions and dreams about a meteor hitting the atlantic and sending a tidal wave my way (Florida).
I hope there is a sign first though before it hits so that I may get out of Florida before it hits. I think it won't be happening anytime this month. Maybe next? I just hope I will be able to prepare myself, and also tell my freinds and family to prepare for it also, so that we may be safe.
I hope this "show" that will be happening this week, won't cause anything more than a some minor impacts here on Earth. At LEAST something that will WAKE THE IGORANT MASSES!! I'd rather have them without the deaths that they MIGHT come with but who knows whether that will happen or not. But I hope there will be at least some kind of disturbance that will make people question their authorities which provide them their "truth".
So we watch and we wait....... again.
I haven't seen any meteors myself, but then again, I haven't really stayed watching the skies for more than 4 minutes at a time, and only about twice a nite for the past couple nites. I'll watch it tonite though.
I did see a meteor once though, a very slow moving one, but it was a couple months ago when I was still in school. I saw it riding the bus to school. It was not big, very small. The only visible part was the tail.
Maybe I'll have better luck tonite? We'll see.
Yea i pray to god that it doesnt happen, even thoguh alot of the information you and I have inputted the last few days proves me wrong.
There is one thing I want you quiet storm and me, and anyone else who can please take there time to do is. . .
Please send this thread (page 1 link) to all news agencies, and major news agencies, like CNN and foxnews. I promise you all if More than 1 person send this link to there local news and DEFINENTLY the major news agencies(CNN FOXNEWS) they WILL look into it, and it will be released to the public. I garentee the government will not warn us, and to back this up, you know from the area 51 recording from Page 5.. . . . the Government will have nothing else to say but either admit it, or try to cover it up to make it look like there lying.
I am asking everyone to start a new movement, to help send this link to major new's agencies. I know you think your voice wont be heard but your wrong!!! your one voice, added with all the others mailng THIS LINK(Page 1 link), will appear on the news.
As soon as this appears on the news, Amateur astronomer's will stand up and throw there voice out, they wont be scared of the govenrment nomore. it it will solve alot of problems and maybe save alot of lives also!
Trust me on this, just spend five minutes doing it. if we get just a PORTION of the 2000 people that read this. it will be enough for the reporters at the local and major news agengies to speak up!!!
!!!!!!
*jumps up and spins around*
I'm down man, Im headed over to the big news station websites right now. [:D]
Links to major news Networks
1) CNN Network(s) - http://www.cnn.com/feedback
2) Fox Network(s) - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77538,00.html
Now on these links, there a emails for the various different channels CNN has and FOXNEWS
Please, help, just like how you people helped on astral uplse island, this is the same concept, help manifest the truth.
15-20 secs??
nope it was 3 minutes before he was cut off
then why they say 15-20 secs he was cut off?
it didnt scare me a bit
because
1. with the technology we got now the Government can trace u or any calll in less then 10 secs
2. i know this because im a hacker and i know how long it takes for them to trace
and track
3. ive been on a tour in area 51. there is no such thing its just a big military base in a deserted island that keeps enemys and spots them early
4. i asked all airforce personel at Lackland Air Force Base Today when i went on a field trip and they said its just a Illusion
5. they wont shoot u on site and it cost about 20 dollars to take a tour
6. My teacher mr. Sanchez worked in a airforce base and there is no such thing as aliens but that they are out there but we do not expermint on them or anything and my other teacher from 7th grade. told me and showed me id and military badge and he worked in the whitehouse before and been to area 51. its just a name because it far out in the desert deserted
and the only reason its out there is they can early detect missels and enemys before they reach us
there is a area 51. area 52 and area 45
i been to area 51 my self on a tour
all that out there is a big military base. with radars and people looking for stuff like ememys and watching excrement
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DISPATCHING IMPACT TEAMS - 15 CITIES
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=4963
Note:
I find this article to be strange. Calling these teams "impact teams" - especially in light of all the asteroid/meteor scares of late. And wouldn't you know it, MY city is the top of the list! WOW I did not know we had such a big problem here! Guess I should get out more.... or watch tv? NAH.
Theresa
U.S. tackling violent crime in 15 cities
Justice Department dispatching 'Impact Teams'
Thursday, June 24, 2004 Posted: 1:20 PM EDT (1720 GMT)
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Justice Department is dispatching teams of federal agents to 15 cities struggling with violent crime problems despite a dropping U.S. crime rate, Attorney General John Ashcroft said Thursday.
Ashcroft told reporters that the effort would be targeted at "the hottest zones of criminal activity" in cities where high murder and violence rates persist despite a violent crime rate that is at a 30-year low nationwide, based on federal victimization statistics.
Tulsa, Oklahoma, which had a record 69 homicides committed in 2003, is one of the 15 cities receiving assistance.
The initiative also is aimed at reducing the traditional summer increase in murder and violent crime, he said. Firearms offenses are the main focus because they are often more readily proven in court than other crimes.
"We hope this will be successful early -- that this summer will be a different kind of summer," Ashcroft said.
Teams of agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; U.S. Marshals Service; FBI; and Drug Enforcement Administration will be assigned to each of the 15 cities for six months. A Justice Department prosecutor will handle cases of those charged.
Investigators will focus on prosecuting people for firearms violations, which often accompany gang activity, illegal drug organizations and organized crime groups. The 15 Violent Crime Impact Teams will use high-tech surveillance and other techniques to identify the worst offenders.
The ATF is leading the effort because of its expertise in gun crime investigations and ballistics, said ATF Director Carl Truscott.
(snip)
Other cities getting teams are Albuquerque, New Mexico; Baltimore; Chattanooga, Tennessee; Tampa, Florida; Miami; Richmond, Virginia; Greensboro, North Carolina; Pittsburgh; Las Vegas; Columbus, Ohio; Philadelphia; Los Angeles; Tucson, Arizona; and the Washington, D.C.-Northern Virginia region.
FULL ARTICLE: http://cnn.usnews.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=CNN.com+-+U.S.+tackling+violent+crime+in+15%A0cities+-+Jun+24%2C+2004&expire=07%2F24%2F2004&urlID=10822669&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2004%2FUS%2F06%2F24%2Fviolent.crime.cities.ap%2Findex.html&partnerID=2004
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15 cities. Can we be looking at what is the beginning of a Police State?
The fact that they are called "Impact Teams" makes me wonder.
I have already sent my message to the big news stations.
Here is what I wrote to them:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12015
In this link you will find a thread from a forum discussion, which contains a huge collection of information news from around the internet which have made the TV screens and also news which have not. The Thread was started shortly after the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" was released, hence that is the name of the thread.
The news is about the recent number of unreported earthquakes, information about global warming situation, meteor showers, (and also unreported meteor showers which have not been announced by the media), unreported potentially hazardous meteors, recent unreported and reported UFO stories, and other unreported cosmic events. All the information is recent.
I URGE you to PLEASE read the information contained in the link, investigate, and decide on making a newstory about the situation we WILL be facing in the very near future (as near as tonite).
I am no activist, although, I do care about the lives on Earth, and I want to ensure that people are READY for what is to come.
Don't wait till there is a "security threat" to report this information. By that time there will be no time left for the people in America to secure themselves, and to prepare for what is to come on this here planet.
There WILL also be other people sending you the same link which I have provided to ensure coverage. I also WILL be sending this message out to ALL major news networks, to encourage more coverage.
Thanks, in advance.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12015
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Anyone can use my message to send to your local news stations as long as it is not edited so dramatically that it has lost its impact and statement. :)
Ah well. It seems like this act of balancing will be 'hitting' soon. I'm not so scared of it, rather I see at as an awakening.
Let me just ask, of those who are concerned with this issue - imagine how things would be in 10, 15, 20 years, without such a great act of balancing.
The fun is yet to come [:)]
I think that unfortunately, humanity has manifested what I can describe as almost being a 'plastic wrapping' around it's consciousness. Imagine throwing small pebbles at it - this signifys an awakening - but the little pebbles just bounce off, until something big enough comes along to punch a hole through it.
Rejoice, for the moment is almost at hand [:D] and God will be soon coming to a town near you (and boy, won't it be spe-tacular).
The Apocalypse at Ground Zero
By Michael Goodspeed
http://www.clydelewis.com/
Just how deep down the rabbit hole can we go, Alice???
A person who read my report "More Coverups of Cosmic Impacts" has sent me the audio of the actual broadcast in question, from KFI 640 AM, on the Friday night, Saturday morning, of June 4th/5th.
The news reporter describes eyewitness reports of "fireballs," "planes going down," and a "possible crashed meteor."
The reporter further stated that authorities searched for crashed planes, but instead found evidence of a "crashed meteor."
AUDIO FILE: (June 5, 2004) http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/Audio/20040604_LA.mp3
The audio file will be played in full Saturday evening on the Ground Zero radio show in Portland, OR. To listen on the net, go to http://www.clydelewis.com/
According now to two independent eye witnesses...there was no further mention of this story on KFI...or ANY OTHER MEDIA in LA...or the rest of the US.
I think it would now be appropriate to put together all the pieces of an ongoing mystery we have witnessed over the last 4 weeks.
It began with a crashed meteor in Washington, on June 3rd, which made national headlines, (Link:) http://www.goanacortes.com/articles/2004/06/09/news/news14.txt,
which was reportedly the size of a baseball upon impact.
The following week, reports of a meteorite in New Zealand,(Link: http://www.inq7.net/brk/2004/jun/14/brkafp_2-1.htm), which crashed through a home and nearly killed a child sitting on a couch.
A week later, reports of a meteor-strike in Australia, which according to several published news reports, was the size of a HOUSE. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,9869458%255E421,00.html
Then on June 19th, a report from Missouri of a CAR-SIZED METEORITE, which received no coverage in the national media. http://freeinternetpress.com/article.pl?sid=04/06/20/0542230&mode=thread
June 20th, in Oklahoma, the Alva Review Courier runs a story which apparently can no longer be found on their site or anywhere else, of a FIREBALL which lit up the midnight sky. (Visit this link to see the article description on Google news, as well as a thumbnail pic of what appears to be a FIELD ALFAME WITH GLOWING FIRE. (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&edition=us&ie=ascii&q=la+fireball)
Also on June 20th, in Seattle, WA, we have the report of an "unprecendented meteor shower" and multiple UFO sighting by Cliff Mickelson of Rumor Mill News. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=50825
Congruent to all of this was the deployment of 93 PERCENT of the NAVAL FLEET for some mysterious "exercise."
Also congruent to this was the disappearance of 29,000 pelicans, abandoning nesting grounds, leaving their eggs behind. (Link: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread59026/pg1)
I would be positively remiss if I did not mention that the original and terribly controversial SNOWBALL NET broadcast foretold of an "impact" event which would occur on approximately June 20th of this year.
This was followed by a series of public postings by a person calling himself Aussie Bloke, who contended that the last two weeks of June would witness a series of catastrophic impacts, leading to a social meltdown scenario, worthy of the imagination of William Cooper.
A group of people calling themselves The Monitors took credit for Aussie Bloke...then immediately apparently withdrew their hoaxing claim.
All the while, those of us in the alternative media, people like Theresa De Veto of Surfing the Apocalypse (http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/), talk show host Jeff Rense (http://www.rense.com/), and Clyde Lewis of Ground Zero Radio (http://www.clydelewis.com/) who have reported all the facts and implored people to keep an open mind, have been maligned as nutcases, conspiracy theorists, and doomsday alarmists.
There are questions here that demand to be answered. A moronic few would prefer that the questions not even be asked. The time of their domain is coming to an end.
Michael Goodspeed
http://trueskeptic.com/
(Note: The report of the Meteors and UFO's by CliffMickelson was taken from a location 70 or so air miles southeast of Seattle, in the famous WA. UFO "Triangle," a region bounded by MT Rainer, MT. Adams, and the Yakima Valley. This area is known the world over for it's consistant and reoccurring anomalies.)
-CliffMickelson
ODD THINGS IN HEAVEN AGAIN, SCORPIO FALLING DOWN!!
Dear RMN Readers and Agents,
My good friend Cliff and I have been noticing this for a while but neither of us discussed it. I noticed it myself over a month ago. But with all the FLACK over the moon posts, I decided to wait a while, if EVER to post it, but dang it, to heck with the opposition, here goes folks.
Cliff wrote to me asking any information that I had on the constellation Scorpio. NO impressions on his part, no implied anything on his part... just what I had been seeing myself. When he got my email, he replied saying it was EXACTLY what he has been seeing too!
I am posting this observation, it requires NO campass headings, no nuclear powered sextants or transits..lol. ALL that is needed is YOUR OWN TWO EYES!
I am also posting in spite of Cliffs strident demands for me to check it with a professional astronomer... lol.
Of course folks, it isnt just Scorpio, but Scorpio is the constellation noticed and EASILY seen by folks. In fact it is all the stars.
Right after dark, Scorpio is very easy to see in the southern sky. It is in a vertical, almost, position. With the "head"
and "claws" arranged in a aproximatley 45 degree angle. Tail, downward and slightly curving to the right...
As the evening progresses, Scorpio will lay down on right side by around midnight, and by the time it is ready to "set", it will almost totally INVERT itself, almost unrecognizeable, due to its being almost upside down!!! I KNOW everyone will say that's it! RMN has gone off the deep end!! BUT I CHALLENGE YOU ALL TO SEE FOR YOURSELF if you doubt ol CLiff and I!!
Dont get scared, or be afraid! I am NOT afraid, I am NOT fear mongering, ONLY telling you what we see from various places in this nation of ours! SOMETHING IS FISHY HERE FOLKS!!!
Constellations do NOT do this, or at least they didn't use to do this. This GOES hand in hand with the moon observations, and my posts of a month or so ago about planetary ecliptic appearing out of place also. WHY? It is because the EARTH has changed its orientation somehow!! It is the ONLY explanation folks. GO ahead call me crazy, I DONT CARE!!! See for yourselves!
We have had tons of posts on meteors, bolides, fireballs, etc. House sized chunks, CAR sized chunks... explosions off New Zealand, ALL verified by LOCAL news sources, but nothing national, or international.
Our elected officials were CAUGHT lying their arses off with the Seattle bolide and explosion, saying that it was all BS! Internet news carried stories of it ALL being a HOAX! Then, the things big brother use AGAINST us, PROVED BEYOND DOUBT, that they were the ones lying!!! UMpteen security cameras, caught it, the fireball and explosion, on video!!!! LOL!!
Stories are being suppressed big time folks, removed from the internet, etc. It is my true belief that ALL of the posts concerning the cosmos are inter-related. Moon posts, ecliptic posts, now constellation post, are tied to EARTH CHANGES!
The ENTIRE SOLAR SYSTEM IS IN TRANSITION!!
Please read the following.
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Interplanetary "Day After Tommorrow?"
The entire solar system - not just our one small planet -- is currently undergoing profound, never-before-seen physical changes. This paper will address and scientifically document a wide variety of significant examples, drawing from a host of published mainstream sources.
We will also outline a new scientific model that, for the first time, coherently explains these simultaneous interplanetary changes via a fundamental "new Physics" - a Physics that predicts"even greater anomalies to come"...
Here are some highlights:
The entire solar system - not just our one small planet -- is currently undergoing profound, never-before-seen physical changes. This paper will address and scientifically document a wide variety of significant examples, drawing from a host of published mainstream sources.
We will also outline a new scientific model that, for the first time, coherently explains these simultaneous interplanetary changes via a fundamental "new Physics" - a Physics that predicts "even greater anomalies to come"...
Here are some highlights:
Sun: More activity since 1940 than in previous 1150 years, combined
Mercury: Unexpected polar ice discovered, along with a suprisingly strong intrinsic magnetic field ... for a supposedly "dead" planet
Venus: 2500% increase in auroral brightness, and substantive global atmospheric changes in less than 30 years
Earth: Substantial and obvious world-wide weather and geophysical changes
Mars: "Global Warming," huge storms, disappearance of polar icecaps
Jupiter: Over 200% increase in brightness of surrounding plasma clouds
Saturn: Major decrease in equatorial jet stream velocities in only ~20 years, accompanied by surprising surge of X-rays from equator
Uranus: "Really big, big changes" in brightness, increased global cloud activity
Neptune: 40% increase in atmospheric brightness
Pluto: 300% increase in atmospheric pressure, even as Pluto recedes farther from the Sun
None of these statistics are from "fringe" scientists; they are all very, very real, and what you have just read is only the proverbial "tip of the iceberg."
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The above information is from Richard C. hoaglands website.. NOW here is a PROFESSIONAL ASTRONOMER stating FACTS folks!!! Go to bottom of following link to the 2004 archives and READ THIS article!! Just recently it was a 5 part series, NOW his site has been changed, and I dont know how to get to the other parts, or provide a link. I can NOT find anywhere on his site how to contact him, as I promised Useless Eater, and I WANT TO!!
WhiteRaven, you remember our discussion on this almost TWO weeks ago?? Need your help now in contacting certain people!! EMAIL ME!!
http://www.enterprisemission.com/
If the entire solar system is in transition, you can bet yer sweet bippy, Earth is affected also!!
And what we are seeing and posting on, is a result of these changes! SOMETHING is causing it all folks. MAJOR suppression going on on anything extra-terrestrial.. and I am not just talking ET's here!
I used to spend long nights, out camping with my buddy, with our backpacks, sleeping bags, 22 rifles; and several cans of BEENY WEENYS..lol. We watched the stars for hours!
I was a amatuer astronomer myself for several years.. had a great telescope.. 8" Newtonian, MEADE brand name. You could EVEN see some colors on Jupiter with it!!! All the reds were visible, in real time, no time exposure, just looking. The stars do move a little at night, in a circular pattern with Polaris, the North star as the seemable PIVOT POINT! But the constellations ARE NOT supposed to invert themselves almost, during a nights passing!!!
To those who say, OH YEAH RIGHT , GPS would not work if that was ongoing... I now remind folks that satellites CAN BE manuvered to a new orientation, and it ALL would work just fine again. I think I remember some posts about GPS not working a while back, some "outages"??? was this part of the reorganization of these space birds? Just letting you know, it CAN BE DONE FOLKS!
I gotta close this now, sorry. Up late, had a great post prepared, but LOST IT, by pushing the wrong dang puter button!
Forgive my typos and errors for now...
Got company coming tomorrow... and work begins in 5 hours, and not to sleep yet!! Alarm goes off in 4 hours..aRGGHHH....
CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELVES!!! I DARE YOU!!! LOL!
Will follow up on this later... more info... CLIFF, please add to, comment, or elaborate further..
I am very priveledged to be alive in this time of transition in our solar system. I am not afraid! RMN Readers can handle it... they are a cut above the day to day masses.. SEE for yourselves, PLEASE! Be NOT afraid... but be informed, and see it for yourselves! The elite have lied to us, the PTB, were caught red handed on the Seattle story, other agents have covered stories, one even said how stories were disappearing from the net... GEE, I WONDER WHY FOLKS!! Big brother strikes again!!
PRAVDASEEKER
ASTEROID (2004 MC) - EARTH FLY-BY - 6-29-4 (0.009 AU)
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=51113
AUSSIE BLOKE'S DECODING ERRONEOUS-ORIGINAL DATA CORRECT
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=4990
Message from the Elders
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=4988
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hehe, hopefully the page is now back to its
normal paramaters.
heheheh you screwed the whole page, lol.
I have not seen one meteor yet, maybe Florida just haven't got any just yet. Nor have I seen any of them UFO's and "Twinklers" other have been reporting. [:(] I feel left out.
There's some more news on Surfing the Apocalypse, and also RumorMillNews about that unreported newstory which we have the audio clip of. The reporter DENIES making that report...... now why would he do such a thing?
There is some silencing going on, certainly something fishy and I know that the government is behind it.
BTW have you guys heard about Sun Myun Moon being crowned as the Messiah by the government a couple weeks ago?
I know there are alot of stories about this, here is just one discussion going on in the abovetopsecret.com forums.
Sun Myung Moon, Anti-Christ, Messiah, or an attempt to cause prophecy to be fulfilled? : http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread61421/pg1
This whole thing could be added to the many signs that we see of the Earth Changes.
Goodnite everyone. :)
This will stir things up a bit...
RESEARCHER
WORLD DEPOPULATION IS TOP NSA AGENDAWarning:
Reading this material might induce significant anxiety or
depression. Individuals with a history of heart problems,
or who are being treated for depression, may find it
advisable not to read this report.
http://www.libertyforum.org/printthread.php?Cat=&Board=news_international&main=292710149&type=thread
quote:
White House whose sole purpose is to reduce the world's population by 2 billion people through war, famine, disease and any other means necessary. This apparatus, which includes various levels of the government is determining U.S. foreign policy. In every political hotspot -- El Salvador, the so-called arc of crisis in the Persian Gulf, Latin America, Southeast Asia and in Africa- the goal of U.S. foreign policy is population reduction. The targeting agency for the operation is the National Security Council's Ad Hoc Group on Population Policy. Its policy-planning group is in the U.S. State Department's Office of Population Affairs, established in 1975 by Henry Kissinger. This group drafted the Carter administration's Global 2000 document, which calls for global population reduction, and the same apparatus is conducting the civil war in El Salvador as a conscious depopulation project.
"There is a single theme behind all our work-we must reduce population levels," said Thomas Ferguson, the Latin American case officer for the State Department's Office of Population Affairs (OPA). "Either they [governments] do it our way, through nice clean methods or they will get the kind of mess that we have in El Salvador, or in Iran, or in Beirut. Population is a political problem. Once population is out of control it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it "The professionals," said Ferguson, "aren't interested in lowering population for humanitarian reasons. That sounds nice. We look at resources and environmental constraints. We look at our strategic needs, and we say that this country must lower its population-or else we will have trouble.
Oh my bonking God, quiet Storm, do you see a striking resemblance in this RIDICULOUS oage and the Area 51 recording I released on here in page 5?
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Let's put this together.
The aliens (Draco Reptilians) have "infiltrated" many aspects of the structures of power. Mainly, the governments, military, and I definately think NSA also, especially because in the tape the guy says "there's alot of (?) areas in this world that they could be in moving the population to NOW Art! They want the major population centers wiped out, so that the few that are left will be more easily controllable *cuts off, and then you hear crying*."
I definately think this guy on the tape is telling the truth. The fact that their system "blew up", suggests that the aliens have enough power to knock a sattelite, and also blow up their equipment.
So obviously there is a connection here.
It's stunning information, and I have to admit that I got quite angry when I thought about the connection. Makes me wanna blow these aliens to peices.
They are the ones who manipulate people to put all these chemicals in foods, and contaminate it so that we will age much much faster, get diseases, die, etc etc. all for population control.
I was thinking about this earlier today as I was eating some taco bell. I always liked taco bell, but I think for some reason, since I fasted for the past 3 days my body is able to tell me if I should eat something or not. I ate the food but when it was in my stomach the food in their felt disgusting. I always knew that the meat in taco bell was pure crap, but I never really felt the crappiness as it sat in my stomach. It was truly disturbing, because I got flashes of images in my head that would represent mad cow disease, other parts of the cow which shouldn't be eaten, the smell and pictures of bloody semi-cooked ground meat.... it was disturbing! I felt all the "negative" energy from the meat. I literally forced myself to throw it all up and I told myself that I will never eat from taco bell AGAIN.
Things like this, along with the massive pollutants and chemicals released in our skies (chemtrails), putting flouride in all of our water, and maybe even chemicals we never even heard of, genetically engineered food which is NOT safe, are ALL done for population control.
This to me is taken as a direct offense against humankind, and whoever is doing this, it can be seen as indirect because the aliens themseleves are not the ones who mess up our food, they get their manipulatees to do it FOR them, so the INTENT is still directed towards harm against us. I choose to see it as a direct attack on us.
Thank ourselves and God and the laws of nature and karma that we have finally done something about this and are waiting for the physical changes to occur!
taken from surfingtheapocalypse:
The Cosmic Bombardment Continues
By Michael Goodspeed
http://www.thunderbolts.info
With the ongoing controversy surrounding mysterious disappearing media accounts of fireballs, meteors, asteroids, and "crashed planes", it will be interesting to see if ANYONE in the international or American media picks up this report, issued hours ago in New Zealand.#65533;
I repeat - some incredibly strange and intense celestial activity is going on - and it is NOT BEING REPORTED by the large majority of media. Again, the question is, WHY?
From: http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,3882-3469666,00.html
Today In New Zealand News
Residents Report Meteor
27/06/2004 12:07 PM
NewstalkZB
A South Island radio station is being swamped with reports of a meteor strike in the Mackenzie Country.
People from Christchurch to Timaru say they saw a bright light streaking across the sky around 9.30 on Saturday night.
Port FM announcer James Valentine says he has taken dozens of calls describing the dramatic end of the meteor's journey.
He says it exploded before it hit the ground, and flames and debris were seen in the sky.
James Valentine says a consensus is building around the idea the meteor crashed to earth somewhere near Twizel.
(END REPORT).
Heh, QS, fasting and then taco bell?! I usually prefer a little fruit and then a nice vegan meal at a very good indian restaurant ;)
I tell ya, when I decided to become vegetarian, I just did it and never looked back. I also cut out all the junk food and soda pop. I used to have stomach problems all the time before that and when I stopped, my stomach never felt better. The best I have ever felt is when I ate raw foods for a month. I felt so light and so good. A little low on energy for my tastes and I had to eat all the time, but dang, if I felt like that, plus had energy, I would say that is pretty close to how we are suppossed to feel all the time! I'm telling you, it feels great. But still, they are putting stuff in my precious vegetables and fruits! You can't find a decent cup of water anywhere! unless you have triple filter reverse osmosis yadda yadda...
It's funny how they go to extremes to find ways to make the food taste good. Screw that, that stuff doesn't even really taste that great. It does when you are brought up on it, but dang it is just junk. Pure trash.
I pretty much have a sense of what is good to eat and what is bad to eat. You know, just ask yourself. I have also thrown up food before because my body was telling me "get this junk out!"
Jesus Christ Quiet Storm, you need to cut down on that speed man. Been posting like a mad man possessed lol [:D]
He is doing perfect, and i wish more members that read this out of the 2200 odd people who read this would speak up there oppinions on this issue. This shouldnt be disregarded as junk information usually posted on Astral Pulse.
Quiet Storm, if you can try to download MSN messanger, to get ahold of me, I use msn instead of aim to separate the people here from my friends here in town, soo download msn mesanger so I can describe to you about reptillians, i dont wanna get that discussion mixed in with what were doing on this thread....
When the man on the audio was speaking I believe He was talking about the government and Service-To-Self Races that fortunently[B)] got in contact with our government back in the 50's before the service to other races could. The reptillians(again lets try to keep this off this thread) is a prime example of why we as human beings are not allowed to be interoduced to other beings because of hate, fear, and word of mouth claiming this and that is evil. :) they been with us since the beginning and want ever so much for us to take this big leep so we can all be one, and live on this earth equally.
Another thing, Yes there are STO beings wanting to get there hands on our earth cause of its MASSIVE resources, but the universal law says you are not allowed to interrupt Mans process of evolution. No race is messing with us, but they can 'deceive' [;)] by way of cool technology, or gifts, in exchange for resources that benefit them much higher than we can understand yet, which will allow us to destroy ourselfs. An example would be, information on technological aircrafts, mind altering technology. So fourth, Alot of man's governments have Sadly been sucked into this trap along time ago.
spoiled with gifts that ultimate used for destructive purposes.
But another thing about this comet situation if it happens, the time were expecting, What were all the expected spots that were to be hit zones?
WHOOOSH! A near miss due tomorrow, he said, spreading fear of unavoidable natural disasters.
http://www.rense.com/general54/arth.htm
KB I've been reading David Icke's book 'The biggest secret' - he describes how he believes the world is controlled by shape-shifting reptillians from the lower 4th dimension. (There goes his knighthood, he says the Queen's a lizard.)
Worth reading purely for the endless stream of jaw-droppingly controversial claims such as Jesus didn't exist, Shakespeare didn't write any plays, Jupiter smashed into our solar system relatively recently...
LARGE METEOR OBSERVED OVER SOUTH EAST TEXAS
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5187
Doomsday: The Electrical Connection
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5235
BUSH CAN HOLD CITIZENS WITHOUT CHARGES
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5228
Wow, the meteor that was observed from texas is ridiculous. Here is a quote from the site for the people who never click the links lol.
quote:
Large Meteor Observed
Over South East Texas
From Stan
6-27-4
It'll be interesting to see if this gets reported in the mainstream media.
At 04:15 06/27/04 an operator at a major Petro-Chem complex in Texas City, Texas observed a brightening of the sky on one of the unit video cameras. No sooner than his attention was diverted to the camera he observed a very bright streak across the sky in his field of view which is westerly. At this point he rushed out side the control room in time to see a very large colorful meteor streaking across the sky west to east at a high altitude. This was also observed by other employees at the plant.
Simultaneously another employee in League City, Texas was walking from his house to his car, leaving for work, and observed the same object. He described it as lighting the sky about as bright as a full moon with a nebulous head similar to a comet. It was leaving streamers of blue, red, yellow and green behind resembling the tail of a comet. He described it as larger than an airliner at low altitude but was very high and appeared to skip off the atmosphere and dissappear.
It is said that there is a strange accurance is going on at the same time the meteor showers are happening....
quote:
By Michael Goodspeed
www.thunderbolts.info
"Once upon a time, the earth was flat. Then...it was round. Once upon a time, gravity was the principle force holding the earth together. Then we discovered a force a thousand billion billion billion billion times more powerful...." (From promotional video, emphasizing surprising discovery of the elelctric force in space. http://www.thunderbolts.info/tb-video-1.htm )
Evidence is mounting that the earth is experiencing intense electrical interactions with celestial objects passing near our orbit - or even more subtle electrical influences yet to be understood.
Strange EarthQuakesquote:
Again, I am only focusing on events of the last 4 weeks. I am not a seismologist, so I don't know if this recent activity is anomalous or not...but on the surface, it seems intense. And notice that many of the quakes have occurred on the SAME DAY in areas separated by thousands of miles. It is also worth noting that on June 14th, Israel tested a new "earthquake measuring device" by setting off a 28-ton explosion that registered 2.9 on the richter scale. Link: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apmideast_story.asp?category=1107&slug=Israel%20Earthquake%20Test
Another country taking recent earthquake-preparedness measures is Delhi, which announced on June 20th its plan to draw up "earthquake vulnerability maps. Link: www.indiaexpress.com
June 3rd, 2004, Puget Sound, WA: The aforemention June 3rd meteor sighting coincided precisely with the report of a 1.6 "micro-quake." Link: http://www.rense.com/general54/micro.htm
June 14th, 2004, Mexico City: 5.8 magnitude earthquake. Link: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,9849512%255E1702,00.html
June 15th, 2004, Chile: 6.1 magnitude earthquake. Link: http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000086&sid=aYIwVIAJ_1s4&refer=latin_america
June 15th, 2004, Missouri: 3.7 magnitude earthquake. Link: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=BRF%20Missouri%20Earthquake
June 15th, San Dieo: 5.2 magnitude earthquake. Link: http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=79&art_id=qw1087359302854U222
June 21st, 2004, Japan: 5.1 magnitude earthquake. Link: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apasia_story.asp?category=1104&slug=Japan%20Earthquake
June 22nd, 2004, Northern Switzerland: 3.8 magnitude earthquake. Link: http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=58&story_id=8757
June 24th, 2004, Mt. Rainier, WA: 3.7 magnitude earthquake. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aplocal_story.asp?category=6420&slug=WA%20Earthquake
June 27th, 2004, Chicago, IL: 4.5 magnitude earthquake. Link: www.suntimes.com
June 27th, 2004: Alaska, 6.7 magnitude earthquake. Link: http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040628.w2quak0628/BNStory/International/
June 27th, 2004: Bulgaria: 4.0 magnitude earthquake. http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=36344
Some readers of this may pose the question...if this phenomena is really happening, if near earth objects are interacting electrically with the planet and creating these anomalies, then why is NASA not putting the pieces of the puzzle together? The answer to this is... as undeniably brilliant as most NASA scientists are, there is one thing they have always turned a blind eye to, and that is the influence of ELECTRICITY in space. Once electricity is allowed to enter the equation, then the entire uniformitarian paradigm - the notion that change on the cosmic scale occurs incrementally over eons - a view which is held by the majority of mainstream astronomers, will crumble like a house of cards.
There are questions that demand to be answered. It now appears that the scientific mainstream is either unwilling or unable to provide them. It is incumbent upon us to ensure that the questions continue to be asked.
Earthquake in Alaska and also Yellowstone (look at the last reply for that one): http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5208
KFI NEWS DIRECTOR ADMITS STORY AIRED!!!!
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5240
HAM OPERATORS PRACTICE FOR THE BIG ONE (Preparing for emergency)
http://www.columbian.com/06272004/clark_co/160124.html
My take on the "electric" interaction between celestial objects is that, I think he really means there is an energetic interaction going on between the celestial objects. After all, electricity is another form of energy. ;)
Introducing the energetic equation of our universe this way could explain what most would call "paranormal" things, and also more importantly how Astrology works. :)
THE RESURRECTION OF THE BLOKE
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5305
Yes he's back! and this time with some more explanations for his whole plan to release information in the safest way possible for him.
AUSSIE BLOKE BACK WITH MORE DATA: Part 1/2
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5275
AUSSIE BLOKE BACK WITH MORE DATA: Part 2/2
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5276
So apparently if you have been following this, supposedly Aussie Bloke gave the wrong dates the first round because he wanted debunkers to debunk him, thus giving him less of a chance to catch him. NOW he SAYS he is going to post REAL information except by a way of a decoding program that he is currently in the making of and will be ready to realease tomorrow to decode his posts, and he will email some people passwords for the decoding program he has made so that only a restricted amount of people will know, thus less of a chance to catch him, and also so that whoever has the information will hold some responsibility of the information given.... I have not followed the story completely, and really I don't care for NOW until he supposedly does give the information tomorrow.
We will see if he is right....
In OTHER important news:
VENUS GOES DIRECT, LOVE IS BACK IN TOWN
After 44 days of being retrograde, Venus will go direct again on June 29th at 7:15 p.m. EST.
With the exception of the Sun and the Moon, all of the planets in our Solar System periodically go retrograde, which means that from our perspective here on earth the heavenly body in question appears to be going in reverse on its orbital pattern. Of course no planet ever actually goes in reverse, rather what happens is that when the earth passes another planet the same optical illusion occurs as when an express train passes a local and one of the trains appears to be sliding backwards.
When a planet is retrograde, it is commonly believed that the archetypal energy associated with that particular sphere will be muted or blocked in some way.
While the energy of Venus is associated with love, abundance, beauty, and popularity, the Ancient Adepts warned that on her lower octave Venus could also represent a very negative interpretation of the aforementioned qualities.
The word for Venus in the Qabalah is NVGH or "Nogah" with a numerical value of 64. This is very interesting because the sum of the Hebrew words for woman (ChVH which equals 19) and man (ADM which equals 45) also equal 64, therefore illustrating that the energy of Venus represents the coming together of opposites to form a fruitful, unified whole. When this natural coming together is exploited or approached from a lower perspective, shallowness, perversion, and a self-serving agenda are often the result.
Currently the planetary spheres of Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto are also retrograde, yet with these slower moving planets the retrograde effect becomes more recognizable over an extended period of time rather than on an immediate basis. Because Venus is one of the swifter moving planets and her energy is about beauty and abundance, qualities associated with many of the illusions driving our current society, this recent retrograde period has been a particularly disconcerting one for many people.
On a mass level, the legal wrangling that has surrounded the U.S. release of Michael Moore's current film "Fahrenheit 9/11" is a perfect example of the weakened and muted vibrations of Venus causing something in her domain to stall. The fact that Neptune which rules Cinema has also been retrograde only adds to the dilemma. However, because Venus is now going direct, look for "Fahrenheit 911" to connect with a mass audience and reap significant profits.
On a personal level, the current Venus retrograde has been in my 9th House (philosophy, travel, and publishing) square to my natal Mars. The results have been some relationship difficulties which have caused me to re-examine the thinking I bring to my inter-personal associations, as well as a temporary impasse relating to the promotion of my new book.
There was a great deal written about the Venus transit over the Sun this past June 8th , however, because it happened during a retrograde period I believe that the real affects of this conjunction will not be fully felt until the redirected Venus goes back over the same spot (17 degrees Gemini) this coming July 20-21. At that time, the Lady of Love will be in sextile to Mars in Leo providing fruitful fireworks indeed as love in an air sign fuels the fire of passion. Venus will also be square to Jupiter in Virgo during that period, so be careful not to overdo or expect too much.
In short, if the last few weeks have seemed a little lonelier than usual, or the purse strings have been drawn a little tighter, take heart, Lady Love is coming back.
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so let me get yea straight here, this guy is Real, and he is trying to play it off as fake so he doesnt get killed, so he pretends to make it as a crazy cause its the typical internet information noone would believe but if we can get the information from his secret program, and send it to the media like I said then itd be released But we havnt a chance to find out about this program
Well he says hes making the program, and that he will post it up on select websites also so that people can DL the decoding program.
I felt like I needed to post the following here as I thought it is a very important message here...
SOME THOUGHTS ON THE CONSTITUTION
Dear RMN Readers and Agents,
My heart is a bit heavy this evening as I ponder the status of our Constitution.
We have people running this country, who are, at heart Leninists. Hillary Clinton being one that comes to mind. In her talk to folks in San Francisco yesterday, she spoke of taking money from the rich to give to the less advantaged. As if it were HER money to deal with. She is just the latest reminder of the scum that is running this nation. I mention her only as she is a higher profile than most, and the news of her visit to Frisco is still fresh in the news. Their are multitudes just as bad, or worse, in our government. The Berkley Baby's of the 60's.
I am beginning to wonder if this country can possibly wake up in time to preserve itself.
We have "judges" who legislate from the bench; as if they were God Himself, undermining literally thousands of manhours in finally getting a particular law overturned, or finally passed; only to have these damn judges totally null and void the voice of the people. The court I am mostly referring to is the 9th federal court out of San Francisco. the people take it like a cheap whore...
President Lincoln had a few words to say on the Constitution, that stick in my heart. "If the policy of the government upon vital questions affecting the whole people is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme court... the people will have CEASED TO BE THEIR OWN RULERS". (Emphasis mine to make a point)
The courts are mandating racial quotas, protecting child pornography in some cases, most certainly trying to redefine marriage; declared Pledge of Allegiance and the display of the Decalogue unconstitutional. Despite what people may think on these issues; these issues should be for the people to decide. Not 9 NWO demigods!!! They don't want these issues to come to a vote, because if mainstream America actually voted on these NWO objectives, they would be soundly defeated.
America, we have ceased to be our own rulers! And what is the saddest part of this; is that damn few people seem to care! We are, as a nation, led here and there, and the national direction is pointed by truly minority factions. Mainstream America is NOT being heard, but ALSO mainstream America is NOT letting their voice be heard. They are allowing a few RABID sheepdogs to lead the entire flock of sheep to their immediate peril! Sorry, but it angers me to a great extent. The apathy of the electorate is rampant. It stinketh of rotting flesh.
Let me try to remind AMERICA, that is exactly what the NWO WANTS! APATHY, a total feeling of "my voice doesnt matter", "my vote doesnt matter".... and sadly too many Americans are in this state of mind. It is going to require some people getting off their dead arses, and getting involved, or else we can get ready to see the REPUBLIC vanish! The greatest experiment in history of mankind on personal freedoms will go the way of the do-do bird.
Abraham Lincoln also stated, "DON'T INTERFERE WITH ANYTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION. THAT MUST BE MAINTAINED, FOR IT IS THE ONLY SAFEGUARD OF OUR LIBERTIES." Here we NOW have elected officials who can NOT wait to change it... and believe it or not, do away with it! The Constitution is MORE VALID, MORE IMPORTANT, MORE NEEDED, in todays world than ever before in the history of our country. Those speaking of doing away with it, or drastically changing it... are YES... TRAITORS TO THIS COUNTRY!!!
America has slept while communist and socialist elements have become the elected, "they" persued these positions, as they knew they could destroy this nation by being in these positions. The common man in this country has allowed his land to become taken over. Ruled by despots, with a thirst for power, and total control.
There was man named Edward Hale who was the Chaplain of the Senate. He had some words that ALL AMERICANS NEED TO REFLECT ON.
"I AM ONLY ONE, BUT I AM ONE.
I CAN'T DO EVERYTHING, BUT I CAN DO SOMETHING.
AND WHAT I CAN DO, BY THE GRACE OF GOD, I OUGHT TO DO."
America, you better wake the (insert FAVORITE expletive here) up! your Republic is dying before your eyes! Are you going to come to its aid, or allow it die? The electorate gets what it deserves! TAKE BACK YOUR NATION!
Make a important decision in your life, if NOT for yourselves, HOW ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN, AND THEIR CHILDREN? Get involved. Make a difference. This nation truly balances on a razors edge... more so than at any time in history. I have not millions like SOROS, to make a difference. I do not advocate violence, as these things need to be done legally. BUT, I do advocate involvement! A Democratic REPUBLIC is only effective as its electorate allows it to be, THAT IS YOU COMMON MAN AND WOMAN!
Keep doing NOTHING, and you will find the freedoms you grew up with gone! We will be living in a police state! DO NOT allow the NWO to take things over.
That is why I write for RMN.. In hope and prayer, that somehow, someday the old cliche', "THE PEN IS MIGHTIER THAN THE SWORD", will prevail. Please spread the word, get involved, and make sure you vote. Granted, we may be once again choosing the lesser of two evils, but vote. Give it serious reflection, and concentration. A grassroots third party is so desperately needed in this nation! GET RID OF TWEEDLE-DUM AND TWEEDLE-DEE!
PRAVDASEEKER
Hillary:WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THINGS AWAY FROM YOU FOR THE COMMON GOOD
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=51374
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WOW! VERY BIG OBJECT SHOWS UP NEXT TO SUN! *PIC*
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=51405
METEORITE REPORTED IN SOUTHERN WESTERN AUSTRALIA
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5374
This morning I woke up exactly at 7am (didn't intend to.. damn restless sleep), and I wondered outside. The sun was about 30-45 mins away from rising (it's winter here [xx(]), and there was a really REALLY bright star shining in the sky, at about East-North-East, maybe 30 degrees vertical.
This was by far the brightest object in the sky apart from the moon. I could hardly see any other stars - they were visible, but only just. But it was amazing how bright it was - I wondered if it was a plane in the distance, but it wasn't moving at all...
I took a few photos of it, but I've got just a standard digital cam, so they aren't fantastic or anything.
Anyone got any idea of what this might be? As I say, it was the brightest object ('cept the moon), and by golly, it was bright. Is it Venus? Or maybe that dredded dark star? [;)]
Wasn't so "dark" to me. [^]
I saw it this morning too bro!! That thing was REALLY BRIGHT in my purplish-reddish looking nitesky.
You should see the pics I posted in Oazaki's thread. Real nice, and weird looking too...
Yeah, I saw those pics.
That thing is weeee-ird. Looks like a giant ball of flames. Or a flower.
But seriously, I've never seen a star so bright in the sky before...
I can't help but cling on to my hopes and dreams... *cue violin*
Hello,
Now I didnt spend much time thinking about this before I wrote this so here I go.
Now back when I was researching about what all these 'Zetas' had to say about anything and everything, I read what they said about the 'media'. They claim to say that the use of media is a major impact and resource tool to what happens later, and/or it (depending on the movie) gives them an Idea of the status of humans reacting to 'aliens'. Now when I said movies havea kinda idea of what happens trails to my point about the coming movie,
'The Day after tomorrow'. Its about this massive cataclymic events happening all over the earth and there slogan was 'Where are YOU the day after tomorrow?'
Now if what they say is true about media having a somewhat truth in our western culture, maybe a sort of warning sign of events to come, then the link that was given in another thread is true to it's nature, http://www.bushcountry.org/news/may_news_pages/g_050204_withheld_earth_danger_inbound_meteors.htm
We are in big butt trouble.
In the last 2 days since I have heard about Comets hitting the earth, and 7-8 days before that, Me and my friends have random dreams, people on this site posting on this astral pulse about there dreams concerning comets Hitting the earth and killing either them or a close person next to them; I have found ridiculous amounts of things relating to these coming events and ultimately to the crossing of the planet.
The movie, The Day after tomorrow, is opening the 28th of this month, and they say after the release date being shown, 'Where are YOU going to the day after tomorrow' blah blah.
Here is a excert from, http://www.bushcountry.org/news/may_news_pages/g_050204_withheld_earth_danger_inbound_meteors.htm :
While surfing on the internet back on March 22nd, I happened to come across a message board in which one poster revealed that they had an insider in NASA who had been providing them information. In a nutshell he revealed that by mid to late May and going on through 2005, the earth's orbit is potentially going to go through the tail of several comets and afterward be inundated by meteors causing worldwide calamity from not only the vapor, but the impact/s.
Pretty Damn weird, not to mention litterally in these last days I have watched wisdom channel, other religious channels and there all talking about 'end days'.
Now you can finish the rest, Theres a excrement load more I can talk about but I cannot think right now lol ttyl
Here is one more site to read over.
http://www.samsara2003.com/New/final-thoughts/amnesia-final-only.htm