The Oddities of Hypnosis.

[Alezunde]

That is really strange. And creepy.
I've had some minor experience with hypnotizing people, and something like that, I think is bad. Or at least I just get a bad feeling from it.
When you're hypnotizing you're dealing directly with someone's mind. And wierd creatures trying to mess it up probably won't end in anything good.
I think though, that things like that can be avoided if you have strong willpower. But that's only a theory. The best thing is to just be careful.
I hope I made sense. I have a bad tendency to ramble. And I apologize for stating anything to obvious.
As for why the creatures might be 'attacking' you, my guess woul be that you're somehow vulnerable - or perhaps you provide something they need.

-Alezunde

P.S. I'm new to these forums, so correct me if I'm wrong about something.

[cainam_nazier]

I have had some of the same thoughts on the subject myself, but it still doesn't bring me any closer to figuring it out.

The will power aspect is interesting.  For the most part when awake I have a very strong will power with a little stubborness tossed into it.

I had wondered if for some reason the hypnosis was making me more vulnerable to these things or if it was just opening my eye to them.  But the only problem is that I don't have any problems out side of sessions.

[Parmenion]

Very interesting indeed. I could only speculate as to the why's and how's of your experience. It would seem however that you are presented with two options. First to ignore the occurances and block such future attempts at communication. Conversely you could try to find out why they were so keen to get you inside (wherever it was). I would imagine that your curiosity would rule out option number one.

How to find out what these entities want with you? You could try to recreate the same conditions and see if they contact you again, however, given the apparant nature of these entities and your gut feeling of something wrong afoot, I would most definately not reccomend it. I know your far from the fool though, so you'll know  what doesn't feel right most likely is not. Alternatively, have you considered contacting through one of these sessions a guide? If not a guide then perhaps a more benevolant entity who might perhaps be able to help you find out what's going?

Take care,

Dave

[cainam_nazier]

We have tried on several occansions to bring a guide, angel, or some kind of help in.  This for some reason seems to be a futile effort as nothing to date has shown itself.  This again is a point that me and my hypnotherapist don't really understand.

There is only on thing that has shown up a couple of times when this question was asked while I was under.  A very old and strong feeling entity made attempts to, for lack of a better description, pull me out of my body through the top of my head.  However the problem with this is that te attempts made by this entity have been very painful.  And my hypnotherapist is hesitant to allow me to go because she is unsure of the amount of control that she or I would have over the situation once I have been removed from myslef.  This particular entity has made no other attempts at contact in any other form.

The only other feeling that I get from this entity trying to pull me out is that it is trying to help me, but in order for this to happen I must go to him.  From what I have know and have been told about guides this is not correct.

[Tarconiss]

I had a few thoughts about the being trying to help you, but you possibly haveing to go to 'it'... I was thinking that, maybe, because the hypnotherapy, is mainly an internal experience, the being that is trying to help you, may not be completely permited to use its powers to help you, becuase it is a self internal experience, and it can't function completely in you. Mind I say this is just a random thought i had... If you can Project yourself, and call out/ask for that entity to help you, in the astral, Then it may be able to fully help you out in that state of existance.

About the imp[)] and shadow eyes[:O].... The [)] could very possibly be an attached being to you, with commands from [:O] to lure you to [:O]'s self. as to what it wants to do to you, im not sure... but from my personal oppinion.... DON'T let them get to you. If a scenario pops up again, where you are brought to someone, go with it for a little while, but still be cautious, and fight back if you have to, again. Something i thought of while typing, for this part, was 'Next time it grabs you, try drawing some energy to yourself, and remove itself from you, by pulling away your hand, and by useing that energy to force it further away from you, as you push/pull from it'... I have never been inside that kindof induced hypnotic/visual state, so im not exactly sure how the whole 'energy control' thing goes with it, either.

uuuuhhhhhhhh...... im out of thoughts right now, because im very tired, so.... * looking left, then right * ciao?....heh heh... Hopefully something that i said, could be helpful. Best of luck, with figureing things out, and I hope you sort things out with yourself, enough to not need to take the therapy.

~ Ted

[cainam_nazier]

Tarconiss,

A little confusing but I think I follow.  I do believe that is a possability.  This is because in hypnosis you are tired to your body and still feel your physical body, however you feel your etheric body also.  Hence the ability to feel the seeming physical sensations. But if some one was to touch your physical body you would feel that also. From my understandings of projection your etheric body basically replaces you physical body for projection purposes. anyhow...

The first time that the entity trying to help me showed up I had what I and my hynotherapist believe was a partial projection.  From her point of view I begain to struggle a little when he showed up and started pulling.  She could see that I was in some pain.  However this only continued for about a minute and then I went fully limp.  

From my point of view yes, I was some what against it at first but it pulled me out any way.  I felt suddenly very detached from my physical self.  I felt as if I had lost control over my physical body but I could still feel it if only barely.  It took a lot of concentration to get myself to speak at all.  However the entity was still trying to pull me up further.  He eventually let go because I could not go any further.

The reason that you are tied to the physical durring hypnosis is because of the hypnotist.  Durring the put down process you are given instructions/commands to listen to the voice of the hypnotist.  This stays in effect until the hypnotist releases you from it or you wake up.

Now my hypnotherapist has given some thought to allowing me to go with this entity but she can not garentee anything if she does this.  Durring a normal session she has the ability to "protect" me from certain things, even if this means ending the session, but she can excersize that control.  If she tells me to wake up and open my eyes I will.  However if she releases me before she wakes me up I may not respond to her commands any more which means she would no longer have the control over the session.  And even more if she does this while I am partially projected I would very likely slip into a full projection and she would most likely loose all contact with me.  

This is not fully a bad thing but there is no telling how long I would be "gone".  And she would not be able to wake me up through normal means.  She could just leave me be afterwards and the most likely case would be that my body would go into a normal sleep cycle while I was projected and I would eventually wake up.  However given her extream hesitance at this situation I believe that there another possability that she is not telling me, like my consiousness not comming back at all and my body basically being in a comma.  

Most people will tell you that this is not possabile through normal projection processes.  However hypnosis is not a normal projection process.  And since the consious mind is being forced to let go of most of the mind-body interface I believe that it is possable to some what lock it out.  Even if by mistake.

And about these two, [)] [:O] , I agree with you.  And about the energy control under that state, it is extream.  You have almost a direct tap into your energy stores, however it takes a lot of thinking to control it because of the number of other things going on.  It would be the same as trying to do energy work while laying in bed with some one hitting you.  But any results would be 10 fold.

[cainam_nazier]

Greetings,


It is becoming more evident with each session that for some reason or another I have become a beacon for misc energies and entities while under hypnosis.  So far there have been about 10 different encounters. 2 of which were attached energies that have been since removed.  Of the ones remaining 3 seem to be internal, possibly more attachments, and 5 which seem to be external looking for communication or entery.  I do however concede that some of these may be either parts of myself that do not wish to cooperate with the process or that they represent some internal defense machanism.  But this has been difficult to ascetain.

My most recent session brought about the following.

When I was first asked where I was I found myself sitting down atop a strange liquid.  It was easy enough to penitrate the surface of this liquid with my hand to touch and feel it but for some reason I did not sink into it.  I was just sitting on its surface.  What exactly the liquid was is still a mystery as we got side tracked.

I begain to feel a strange pain in my left arm.  When I looked to see what it was I found a small imp like creature had grabbed my arm.  But the only problem with this is that it really didn't grab my arm but it felt like it grabbed the very bone itself.  If you hold your arm out with your elbow bent slightly and your palm facing up it would be the small bone protrusion on the body side of the arm next to the elbow.

I pulled my arm way but this little creature continued to grab at that same location.  The therapist notice what was going on and asked that I explain it to her.  I did and she then issued instruction to the creature that if it wanted to communicate with me then it would have to let go of my arm and talk in a normal fashion.  This took a couple of times being said before the creature showed me some thing.

I saw an image of what looked like a mall with some visible hills in the back ground.  This mall seemed familiar some how and because of such I will be keeping an eye out for this particular image in my travels around town.  The hypnotherapist thought it would be okay to go and check out the image for further information.  Why not, most things in a session should have some kind of relivance.

I found myself in front of the door to the mall.  It was a large sliding galss door.  It did not have the normal mirror finish that most doors like that have around here but it was all black and I could not see in side.  The little creature that brought me here was now grabbing and pulling on my right arm.  Again it felt more on the bone.  He was grabbing the Ulna at the bottom just before the wrist.  Again every time I would pull my arm away he would just grab me again.  The whole time he was just repeating the word "yes".

I was very hesitant about this whole situation.  I didn't know exactly what it was but it just felt wrong.  Soon through the door apeared the image of a woman.  She was physically shorter than I am but was floating so that her head was slightly above mine.  Her face was slightly chunky and her hair was a yellowish blond color.  The problem that I had was that she didn't have any eyes.  Instead the space where her eyes should have been was empty and black, almost hollow, or filled with this blackness, this nothingness.  She opened her mouth and it was the same there also.  No tounge, no teeth just this hollow, black, nothingness.

All of a sudden the door was gone and she had reached out and grabbed at my face.  Again it felt like she was grabbing bone and not flesh.  My cheek bone to be exact.  She begain to pull extreamly hard.  I tried to get away but she just kept pulling and pulling, trying to get my inside the building.

Eventually the hypnotherapist was able to get the whole mall image to dissolve and go away.  With it went the woman and the creature.  I have tried to discribe the way the creature and the woman felt but I can only come up with this.  There was something wrong with the both of them but I can not put my finger on it.  The woman also felt external, outside of my body/mind trying to find a way in.  For what reason I don't know.  The imp thing however felt very much internal, like he was already there, waiting.  Although the two of them felt seperate in being I got the distinct feeling that the imp was working with her or rather her would be more accurate.

Both me and my hypnotherapist are perplexed as to why there seems to be a good number of entities that are trying to communicate or use me for some purpose.  Most of her confusion comes from the fact that for the most part a hypnotherapy session is a very controlled enviroment.  Nothing usualy gets in unless it is okay.  But for some reason or another I am not always "safe" durring the session.  For the most part we don't have any problems like that durring the seesions but there have been a few occurances like the above where some of the control that is normally in the sessions is lost and control can only be regained by ending the session.

Anyhow I am done rambling for now and I look forward to any comments you all may have.