walking on water, etc.

[galaxy_storm]

I had a dream last night, where I walked on water. But the way I did it, really amazes me now. In the dream, I told myself that it's possible, I was absolutely sure about it without any doubts, I just did it.
I tried convince me in real life in the same way as in the dream, but it's simply not possible. I think there's some kind of mental block that is holding us back from believing in those things, to be absolutely sure that they happen, like day and night.
If there was any way to remove this block, I believe everything would be possible, even in the physical world.

[Mez]

reprogram the subconcious.

[Psionic]

Achieving what you aim for is quite a process and the first step is belief.

[Awakened_Mind]

Recent discoveries of quantum physics would suggest that so long as you believe you can walk on water with every rudiment of your being, you can.

-AM

[galaxy_storm]

Recent discoveries of quantum physics would suggest that so long as you believe you can walk on water with every rudiment of your being, you can.

-AM

This is exactly what I think too.

[Mez]

hence why i say reprogram your subconscience. You can believe it in your concious mind but you're subconcious will always over rule it because its so fundamentally ingrained in there. Its my beleif also... and the day its pulled off by an average joe will be an awesome day!

[an3mptyb0tt13]

This is sort of similar to the mental block talked about in the area of Telekinesis. Before you can really do it, your subconcious needs to believe you can do it. I don't know if this could apply to walking on water, but you might be able to trick your subconcious into believing it could happen. Take the PK lesson of tricking your subconcious, for example. Tell it that you are seeing the pinwheel move, and that it is in-fact moving. And then, you begin to control the pinwheel without that mental block.

Most of the above is just rambling. But, I believe if you get past my unorthodox way of describing what you could possibly try, you'd see that what I said makes SOME sense.

[CYANIDE-2600]

You know you can ride a dirtbike on a lake.
Read that, would you believe it? Probably not, but see it happen and you will.
I think to believe something you must have seen it or actually feel it. I'm sure there is a way to walk on water, I haven't discovered it though.

[Awakened_Mind]

Cool stuff. Here's a few videos of that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usKFoZ244sk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opb7KLju5Us&feature=related

-AM

[CYANIDE-2600]

That's the stuff. Friend of mine did it on her KX500 a few times, though the tyres are not the same as normal motocross tyres, she had special Maxxis ones the rear one was like a paddle wheel lol.

[Beneath_the_Roses]

I agree, and I think about that often....isn't it true humans only use a small percentage of the brain?

Imagine...

[Awakened_Mind]

Well most of our brain is active, it just has a higher capacity than we currently use.

-AM

[GANAMOHA]

Very true, the whole "we only use less than 10% of our brain" is completely false 

However, in regards to getting pass this mental block I dont think its as easy as just say simply reprogramming your subconscious (which would be in my opinion something that would be very difficult and possibly damaging if not done properly) and that there is a considerably larger amount of practice and work involved behind it, although ridding yourself of this mental block would definitely be beneficial. But I think what I am trying to say is that practicing in energy works or anything else in the same regards are the steps you can take to slowly get rid of this block. Simply having this block completely removed without any prior training (if you can imagine every single law of physics being broken simultaneously) I'd imagine would be quite mind boggline 

[Mez]

Very true, the whole "we only use less than 10% of our brain" is completely false 

However, in regards to getting pass this mental block I dont think its as easy as just say simply reprogramming your subconscious (which would be in my opinion something that would be very difficult and possibly damaging if not done properly) and that there is a considerably larger amount of practice and work involved behind it, although ridding yourself of this mental block would definitely be beneficial. But I think what I am trying to say is that practicing in energy works or anything else in the same regards are the steps you can take to slowly get rid of this block. Simply having this block completely removed without any prior training (if you can imagine every single law of physics being broken simultaneously) I'd imagine would be quite mind boggline 

In terms of belief your subconcious wins every time... no amount of energy work is going to change one of your beliefs at a subconcious (basically hardwired) level. There are methods of doing this however which to my knowledge arent exactly that difficult or time consuming but it would take a bit of work for sure. Its also the ONLY way to actually rid yourself of that mental block in order to actually believeee you can walk on water to be able to do it. So its rather necessary...

[SnakeDoctor]

explain to me how, if i believe i can walk on water with my whole being i can actually do it. that just boggles my mind.

[GANAMOHA]

In terms of belief your subconcious wins every time... no amount of energy work is going to change one of your beliefs at a subconcious (basically hardwired) level. There are methods of doing this however which to my knowledge arent exactly that difficult or time consuming but it would take a bit of work for sure. Its also the ONLY way to actually rid yourself of that mental block in order to actually believeee you can walk on water to be able to do it. So its rather necessary...

Im sorry, its either A. I need to go to sleep which is definitely possible considering the time it is for me right now or B. Your word choice is clear enough for me to understand what you are specifically responding to in quoting me. But, taking a guess at what you said I agree with what your saying in that our subconscious beliefs are in fact a hardwired part of human nature, but when I mention energy work I think your thinking of it as something purely physical and not mental (correct me if I am wrong) but in fact includes both. If you want the best results in the long run for control and fluidity of your flow of energy you need control of the mind. Again though I have been awake for 22 hours now so I might have to come back and edit this later..

explain to me how, if i believe i can walk on water with my whole being i can actually do it. that just boggles my mind.

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I think this walks into the lines of quantum physics, and if you find this one topic to be intriguing then I would definitely suggest that you pick something up from a bookstore if possible (theres also movies if your lazy like me). Have you ever heard of "I think I can, I think I can, I think I can"? because this basically runs along the same lines that the only thing that inhibits us from doing and obtaining what is otherwise considered impossible is our own selves. 

[Stookie]

If just believing that you can do it makes it happen, that would mean that the physical world is created out of our beliefs. And it would be a collective belief system shared throughout the universe, including animals and other forms of life. So your single belief that you can walk on water would have to go against the belief of every single organism that essentially holds the physical world together on a quantum level through their beliefs. Can one person really beat the collective belief on a quantum level? And if you could, what impact would it have on the collective belief system? Wouldn't there be a chance of total quantum chaos and destruction of the physical world? The laws of physics are what keeps our solar system in perpetual balance - the universe for that matter, and if the laws of physics could be changed in a heartbeat... thats scary stuff.

Maybe that's why the masters stay hidden? ...if there really are any

[CFTraveler]

The way I'm thinking this is that the uncertainty principle applies.  Yes, quantum mechanics allows a chance for your beliefs to control the way you manipulate matter, but the law of averages (which is a big part of QM) would probably make the chances of you overcoming everyone else's beliefs pretty low.
So I'm sleeping well tonight- no radical changing of physical laws.  Now, maybe on 2012... 

[GANAMOHA]

There are a couple reasons for these type of conversations can be so long or confusing. Mainly being the fact that there are many different ideologies for an explanation of why and that so much of this is gray just about anything can be said fairly. That being said I think the idea of our dimension of existence being fabricated by the collective subconscious of all the people who reside in it sounds very plausible. I'm guessing that because ideas like 1 is 1 and therefore cannot be two are reinforced on such a tremendously large scale that 1 is never two (although I have seen an amusing formula with a minor flaw which proves one is equal to two, but I'd being going pretty far off topic ) So, lets just say that someone in fact has actually been able to accomplish this feat. two  ways to look at it...(s)he either bent through a serious law of our physical plane or maybe there was a more scientific approach in his feat with either adjusting the density of water of water tension. As you could see both cases would be taking a different route in the way they would be affect our level of existence.  I don't think that someone would or ever should break through because like you said and like I mentioned in an earlier post the results our physical laws being shattered would have catastrophic results. So is it possible that instead of breaking through a law like this he is instead merely bending or in fact adding alterations of his own although hardly in a literal sense. Depending how how the feat of walking on water would be accomplished would;d determine the result. We hear about superheros all the time, but I really doubt if a super hero made themselves known that we would be plunged into chaos because I think we or at least I forget that we also have backup safety nets to help prevent this chaos. if you were to see a superhero chances are you would be overcome with either strong doubt or a belief that (s)he has something special about them that allows for them to accomplish such a thing, but you should be able to see where I am going with this. The fact is that there are a lot of could be's and what ifs but until any of this happens in the public stream (chances are it already has) we really wont know. I wonder if anyone has ever considered the possibility that maybe in order to accomplish this we do not need to get rid of something but perhaps add something to block another thing. Savants (excuse spelling if I am wrong) as well as a large amount of autistic people have parts of their brain inactive while they soar at others. So, what if we need to instead learn how to block of that part of the brain that instinctively tell us no....how? Sorry to anyone if I may have lost anyone in my babble, but with my hyperactive mind in something as complex as this it is a little difficult to be able to develop a thought while a million others in something as open as this continue to flow. Hopefully I answered someones questions because I know I answered some of my own  

[Mez]

Im sorry, its either A. I need to go to sleep which is definitely possible considering the time it is for me right now or B. Your word choice is clear enough for me to understand what you are specifically responding to in quoting me. But, taking a guess at what you said I agree with what your saying in that our subconscious beliefs are in fact a hardwired part of human nature, but when I mention energy work I think your thinking of it as something purely physical and not mental (correct me if I am wrong) but in fact includes both. If you want the best results in the long run for control and fluidity of your flow of energy you need control of the mind. Again though I have been awake for 22 hours now so I might have to come back and edit this later..

My appologies if it sounds like I was having a go at you. You're certainly right, the point I was making is that energy work is only complimentary to the process. Although it would be very beneficial in terms of concentration. Stookie's point is also a very interesting one that I was thinking of earlier... Say you could walk on water through belief (when you were alone) but when someone else who didnt beleive it was possible was present you couldnt do it because of their belief. All very interesting stuff. Also could you over ride the universal mind?? I hadnt thought of that one before but I believe YES you could. The Vedas (or so i've heard) mentions being able to fly through belief... hence why I believe the universal mind isnt too much of a problem.

Question...

Is anyone game enough to try and TRY this stuff? haha. we always seem to think about it but giving it a go is another story aye?

[AndrewTheSinger]

Maybe it isn't possible in this dimension. When I was little I didn't think I could fly, I knew I could fly, that was so natural to me that when I first jumped from a springboard into a pool I was shocked to find out that I couldn't. I would go and tell everyone 'Hey do you know that I jumped from a springboard and didn't fly?' and they would give me the weird look.

[GANAMOHA]

Is anyone game enough to try and TRY this stuff? haha. we always seem to think about it but giving it a go is another story aye?

actually yeah I have tried this before, although I was able to put nearly enough weight on the water as I would have liked to, but that was a year and a half ago and I have made a considerable amount of progress since then. My approach was to almost act like a water strider and go off of the water surface tension. I took steps to see if I could forcibly strengthen it and succeeded in making no ripples on contact!! and then from there I went to find our how much weight I could put on a foot before breaking through and at first it wasnt much at all but soon I was able to work up to about a leg of weight, but I hit a block in the road and was never able to get it passed that weight...maybe I should look to try again and see where I am, especially since I would doubt anyone would be swimming much this time of year (you need still water).

[Mez]

awesome! I guess you could try affirmations and visualisations intensively as an aide? Also working with your subconcious by doing the same whilst drifting off to sleep could be very powerful...

I have a question for you in regards to your attempts... In comparison to just putting your leg in the water normally, how much difference is there between trying to WALK on the water? like is it significantly different? Im very interested in this... I may even begin my own attempts.

[GANAMOHA]

awesome! I guess you could try affirmations and visualisations intensively as an aide? Also working with your subconcious by doing the same whilst drifting off to sleep could be very powerful...

I have a question for you in regards to your attempts... In comparison to just putting your leg in the water normally, how much difference is there between trying to WALK on the water? like is it significantly different? Im very interested in this... I may even begin my own attempts.

well usually I just stop at the edge of a pool to initiate the process...but usually walking on water requires a different mind set than swimming in it and it is important to remember afterwards that another mindset is required to swim in it again to help maintain order. One of my biggest rules is to avoid over thinking anything and keep all thoughts in general to a minimum....in reality they arent neccessary. Its kind of hard to explain what you arent thinking about, but you can look back on it and give a generalized feeling. I also either did not look down or closed my eyes and that instead of the water becoming displaced around my foot it would remain intact...gah...not necessarily intact either though just seperate I guess...well I have to leave at this moment so I will be back to finish this...maybe a chatroom possibly

[AndrewTheSinger]

For the miracle to occur, first you need to have faith in the Lord people: http://fabianvzq.multiply.com/video/item/4