If you found out you're a medium then I guess you have the ability to communicate with the spirits of those who no longer dwell on the earth in physical bodies. However, the word medium is sometimes used for people who have the ability to channel energy for healing purposes. Can you explain how you found out you were a medium and give some more details about this? That might help people in giving you better feedback.
The person who told me this is my teacher, because I had asked my teacher something like what am I.... At that time I know something was different then what is so called "normal". He told me that I was a Medium explain what it was and the other two. I think under Medium is called a Carrier. If I'm incorrect, please forgive me. I just want to expand my knowledge on whats around me. I have not spoke to my teacher (in person or on the phone)for quite a long time due to things happening around us. I'm a person who has to know things before it happens, it the way i feel I'm prepared for things. This goes along with seeing spirits.... still scared of seeing them or communicating with them; even though I have seen them before( only half a sleep). I hope this explains alittle better. Huggs EM
You should go to the following website:
http://www.edgarcayce.org/
He was a famous medium in the first part of the twentieth century. The website has a whole lot of information on it that you might enjoy.
There is also an online bookstore that sells books, tapes and so on.
Very best,
A medium has the ability to let a spirit use her/his body to channel messages. Books The Seth books, Alice Bailey, Slyvia Browne, Ruth Montgomery. All of these can give you an idea what channeling is all about. It is best to always be in control, alert and not channel unconsciously.
I like James Van Praugh (think that's how his last name is spelled) He's able to communicate with the deceased. He helps loved ones get on with their lives when they've lost someone close to them. He also uses his ability to find out how someone died under mysterious circumstances, same as Slyvia Browne. There are different ways to channel, unconsciously, semi and conscious.
You can use your search engine, Psychics. I am sure amazon.com has lots of books on Channeling.
Good luck, Lyn [8D]
Yes, Lyn92 is right. I saw Sylvia Browne in LA a couple of years ago and don't know why I didn't think of her. She has a website too, and so does James Van Praagh. They are both very well thought of.
http://www.vanpraagh.com/
http://www.sylvia.org/home/index.cfm
We are all mediums...some just dont know it.
Last year I found out I was a Medium. I really dont know much about Mediums and the other two. Can anyone explain them to me or can give advice on a good book to read? Sincerly yours, EM
Quote from: lyn92A medium has the ability to let a spirit use her/his body to channel messages. Books The Seth books, Alice Bailey, Slyvia Browne, Ruth Montgomery.
OK, this is an old thread but I'd like add an important note. There are levels of channeling. The most common is Astral trance channeling which is a very low form. Personally I would not trust any information from Astral channeling.
The next highest form is mental telepathy. This does not require a trance state and can be very reliable depending on the development of the person. For example, Alice Bailey used mental telepathy, not trance channeling. There are a lot of people who claim telepathic communication but are not clear. Alice Bailey was a rarity.
There is an extremely, extremely rare form of Soul Trance channeling, which is on the higher mental plane. This is where the mediums Soul actually leaves his body and a very high teachers Soul enters. The reason this is the best form of trance channeling is because the Soul is at such a high vibration that you can be assured the entities that enter the body are of a high vibration. There were once two people on earth with such a capability-- one in India and another in the U.S. They have both since passed away. Such a medium actually dies when they Soul trance channel. Their heart and brain activity stops until the high teacher enters their body.
Peace & Love,
Paul
what about materialisation mediums?
Hi Paul,
With respect to 'Astral trance channelling': -
As this may be beneficial to users tempted to play with certain forms of channelling: would you be kind enough to provide a couple of illustrations in order to demonstrate why this is considered a very low and untrustworthy source? Your input might help them to mitigate risk taking with untrustworthy sources of communication etc?
Similarly if you have time could you elaborate on the concept 'Soul Trance Channelling' please, and perhaps show if this is different or not from the concept of a 'walk in' for example?
In appreciation,
Stephen
Quote from: Donalwhat about materialisation mediums?
Hi Donal,
There is plenty on the net about materialisation mediums: try http://www.noahsarksoc.com/ or http://www.fst.org/ for starters.
Regards,
Stephen
Dear EOL007,
Quote from: EOL007As this may be beneficial to users tempted to play with certain forms of channelling: would you be kind enough to provide a couple of illustrations in order to demonstrate why this is considered a very low and untrustworthy source? Your input might help them to mitigate risk taking with untrustworthy sources of communication etc?
As I am sure you know, astral trance channeling attracts astral people. Similarly, Soul trance channeling attracts people on the Abstract Mental plane and even higher planes of vibration. There is a difference in vibration between the astral and Soul plane-- actually a huge difference. Higher vibration is closer to light. Negativity slows down the surrounding intrinsic vibration, which is why the astral hells are found at lower astral planes. Negative astral beings cannot project to the Soul plane, which is why Soul trance channeling is safer than Astral trance channeling.
Quote from: EOL007Similarly if you have time could you elaborate on the concept 'Soul Trance Channelling' please, and perhaps show if this is different or not from the concept of a 'walk in' for example?
Great question! I would say that a Walk In is meant to be permanent, where as Soul trance channeling is not. Walk Ins, as far as I'm aware, are positive beings since it is a Soul level possession. It is an agreement between the original body owner and the new owner. Where as demonic possession is targeted toward the lower bodies and there is no usual agreement.
Peace & Love,
Paul
Hi Paul,
Thx for the reply. Interesting subject would love to hear more of your thoughts on this, and how others here feel about what they think a 'medium' is or the medium's role in the scheme of things perhaps!
Cheers,
Stephen
Hi,
Isn't mediumship about communicating with the energy remains of the Soul that animated the body (the deceased), and/or with an astral representation of them ? You know, something like that, LOL.
Perhaps this dependance on Mediums is only a phase. A few years ago heaps of people in this country wanted to be Channelors, now it's Mediumship they seek. It's like what is fashionable with the "so spiritual people". LOL :P
There are many good people out there working their tools, and probably more who abuse them for their own or unknowingly for Others agendas.
Part of what I do is to clear places when needed and communicating with the remnants is quite easy.. you only need to sit in silence, watch the surroundings with your Mind's eye and soon enough you will see them and then hear them. It only needs you to Focus your attention on observing and let nature take it's course.
I do think we all are capable of every possible thing. And, the Industrial Use of the Gifts for mega-bucks and fame is the typical way we humans do stuff.
"Higher vibration is closer to light. .............
Negative astral beings cannot project to the Soul plane'
Light is in ALL things, it is part of the fabric that is this Creation. So there is never anything or anyone that is further from the Light than another. It is impossible to be separated altogether from the Light.
A Negative Astral Being is a judgment about how a being is manifesting and what their agenda is. Some Beings do choose to work the darker agendas than others, yet each and every one of us has darkness and Light in us.. because we currently dwell in the Duality Layers
We all exist in all the levels at the very same time, only we aren't usually aware of the other levels or layers. Any being can experience anything it chooses to, so a 'neg' is actually just another being in this creation who has chosen to work the dark half of themself rather than the light half, but they still have some light inside them too. So they can project anywhere just the same as we do.
" There were once two people on earth with such a capability-- one in India and another in the U.S. They have both since passed away. Such a medium actually dies when they Soul trance channel. Their heart and brain activity stops until the high teacher enters their body."
There would never be a real good reason for anyone to extract the Soul so that another Soul can enter the body to give Chanelled Messages. It's ludicrous to think there is a need when thousands of people world wide are Awakening to their Higher awareness, Guidance and Angels, etc.
There are very clear and aware people who do channel much higher beings. These people are the 1 percenter's. Real, Clear and not Dear, without all the fancy trappings and hype, no added anything from them.
8)
Hi All,
With EOL007's invitation I thought I'd put my hand up.
Er..umm...hello. My name is James and...umm..I'm a...umm..medium...
:D
What type of medium you'd choose to call me I've no idea. I tend not to be bothered too much with labels or technicalities. To be honest, my psychic development has increased at a much faster rate since I left all the hows and whys, all the academic technicalities behind.
I've some clairvoyance - I do see spirits to a limited degree with eyes open, but more often get a clear image of them with eyes closed. My clairsentience, and most particularly my clairaudience is very strong. I've experienced what I suppose would be two methods of channeling, both of which are recieving messages from spirits that are with me in the room - one is where I just listen to what they say to me, then pass that on to the relevant person, and the other is where I allow their words to flow through me, and I effectively speak their thoughts. The latter is more effective, but harder to get used to.
I never trance. I never feel the need to. I hear what the spirits are saying too well to be bothered, and I've been made very much aware by my guides that my purpose is to always work with the spirits while being firmly grounded and aware of my surroundings. Kind of like astral phasing - always one foot planted in the real world.
My best friend & teacher tends to trance channel. She'll feel the presence of spirits around her that wish to speak through her, and when she's happy that their intentions and their energies are good, she'll mentally step aside and alow them into her mind. I generally have to tape her messages as she can never remember what she's said. There's only ever been a couple of times where she's had to tell a couple of spirits to push off, as they've seemed just a little too pushy, a little too eager to speak through her.
Again, we don't really bother labelling exactly what kind of channeling we do. We just do what we feel is the best thing for the situation. I know there tends to be some confusion between the terms "medium" and "channel", though I don't share that confusion. I am a medium and what I do is channel messages from spirits.
Kind regards,
James.
Thanks James, right from the horses mouth we could say.
I agree with the apparent difference between channeling and medium. People round near where I live think generally that channeling is about allowing other beings to use your body/faculties and mediumship being about contacting the passed over. (that's not a trademarked phrase is it ? LOL )
I like your description better, it is very clear. Thanks again.
:D
Quote from: TayesinIsn't mediumship about communicating with the energy remains of the Soul that animated the body (the deceased), and/or with an astral representation of them? You know, something like that, LOL.
Dear Tayesin,
The recent topic was the method of that communication, not what it is about. :)
Quote from: TayesinPart of what I do is to clear places when needed and communicating with the remnants is quite easy.. you only need to sit in silence, watch the surroundings with your Mind's eye...
That is nice for entertainment, no offense intended, but when one begins using or even listening to the information from these sources of communication then one should perhaps know where the information is coming from and how pure it is. Is the instrument on a Desire / Astral level, Lower Mental level, Higher Mental level?
Quote from: Tayesin"Higher vibration is closer to light. .............
Negative astral beings cannot project to the Soul plane'
Light is in ALL things, it is part of the fabric that is this Creation. So there is never anything or anyone that is further from the Light than another. It is impossible to be separated altogether from the Light.
I believe that it's not a matter of in or not in. Rather there are different degrees. Some beings from the Astral / Desire world shine more than others. As example, some may believe that
Christ has more light than those on the lower Astral plane?
Quote from: TayesinA Negative Astral Being is a judgment about how a being is manifesting and what their agenda is.
Yes in many cases I would agree. Emotions or an undeveloped Desire body is often the force behind judgment. Some people are more mental about it. That is referred to as
being "impersonal." Being impersonal is taking the data and removing all personal judgments.
Quote from: Tayesinso a 'neg' is actually just another being in this creation who has chosen to work the dark half of themself rather than the light half, but they still have some light inside them too. So they can project anywhere just the same as we do.
Some people have a belief system that teaches following Gods rules. IMHO an
Anti-belief system is anti-God. A belief system is about trying to follow Gods rules, or the universe as Earth scientists would put it. I would agree that negs chose to work the dark half. As way of example, a neg that resides in the lower astral planes could not project on its own accord to the Soul plane until that neg cleared away its negative Karma and raised its vibration during future reincarnations. There are a very few exceptions as in the case of more powerful fallen angles. The powerful fallen angles are not of that higher vibration so they cannot maintain that state of vibration very long. Although in the case of such Soul instruments, there are always two spirits for protection next to the instruments, one on each side.
Quote from: TayesinThere would never be a real good reason for anyone to extract the Soul so that another Soul can enter the body to give Chanelled Messages. It's ludicrous to think there is a need when thousands of people world wide are Awakening to their Higher awareness, Guidance and Angels, etc.
But we're speaking of instruments that are far purer and through incarnations have raised their vibration to a high state. Such instruments are capable of allowing the teachers of extremely high vibration to speak to those on a much denser plane such as the physical plane. It is rare for a high liberated beings, such as Christ, to come down even below the lowest Cosmic realm much less the mental planes.
Perhaps one reason such teachers would speak through an instrument would be to help us so that we can be
our own Master. That is service to others.
Love & Peace,
Paul
Dear James S,
That's an interesting post. What do you think about mental telepathy? I've learned there are three types of telepathy. When developed it can be very pure and clear. As example a lot of E.T.'s prefer this pure method of communication over physical methods.
Peace & Love,
Paul
Hi Paul,
What I've experienced of what could be generally termed as telepathy is this:
With people, such as my closest friend, I've experienced empathic (feeling) level communication, and telepathy to the point of both of us not so much hearing as knowing what the other is mentally saying.
With spirits I hear words, very clearly, see images and feel emotions very clearly. When communicating with higher evolved beings, you will find that words are scarce, as word based communications is the most inneficient. Feelings in particular - empathic telepathy, and images are what I've experienced when communicating with some higher beings. I do have guides that communicate with me very clearly through words, but this is usually for general conversation type matters. They too will send me feelings when they need to get something through to me that they do not want misinterpreted.
Regards,
james.
thank you james (hmm, was that phrase in some move or something ?), i needed this clarification and it exactly matches my experience
Dear James,
That's interesting. I'd like to toss an idea around. I hope it's on topic. You mentioned the higher teachers use empathic telepathy with you. Could you describe this more on the lines of intuitive communication or do you actually mean raw emotions?
This seems to be a subject that varies a great deal among people. Some people receive it intuitively but bring it down to a lower level such as mental. Or to an even more lower form such as emotions. Some people have the ability to bring it down to a more physical level and actually hear the words or more like inner hearing.
Peace & Love,
Paul
Like James I get clear words when in normal conversation with Guidance, and other times it comes in Concept-bundles... meaning, the information comes as a whole package.
Other times I get impressions, feelings etc.
For instance :- While presiding over last months UFO and Paranormal Research Groups monthly meeting I began to FEEL something strong.
It began as a feeling of the need to cry. So I opened up to see what was trying to communicate with me, then the feeling calmed and I could see a women dressed in dark clothing shooting children.
This was the initial start of the Russian School take-over.
So, what I see in that process was.... an initial contact feeling (which I already know how it works for me) then when opening awareness further I connect directly to the information. This combined with other communications tells me I get pictures, words, complex concepts and whole ideas, as well as Feelings and Direct Thoughts... Telepathy.
My lady and I experiment with Telepathy, we have found that when 'specifically' entered into the mind of another they will get the words used.
I found this also when communicating with Alien Races. The thoughts are heard as words, seen as pictures, etc. So that what I perceive is like a Multi-media offering, LOL.
At one stage I wondered if this was an insurance policy, LOL. To make sure I get the message it is 'beamed' to me in images, words and concepts... this way there is a good chance that no matter what I am doing or whatever awareness layer I am 'in', the information gets to me clearly.
And, I also get to see the Initiator of the communication, so that at another level I can assess them, feel them for clarity and understanding. Whether they are seen by others as 'negs' or evil influences makes no difference to me because I do not make such Emotional Value Judgments as that.
Responses...
Entertainment ? What an unusual way to perceive things.
A teacher once asked, "If we know the information we get is correct, because it resonates with the Truth within, then does in matter where the information came from ?"
My answer way back then was.... No it doesn't matter. Why waste time, effort and thought on some imaginary worry about it being wrong info from the darkside when the info is very correct. It doesn't matter where we get our info as long as it works, so as above so below applies here.
Yes some Beings do shine more, not because they are closer to the Light, but simply because they are OPEN to more light through their Awareness, hence they shine brighter.
Many great and higher beings are here in the world now, and many have been for many millenia. There is no impediment to the 'coming down' or 'going up' of any being, unless of course their belief system states otherwise.
To be our Own Master is a wonderful term PML
Love Always. 8)
Hi Paul,
Your questions are on topic - telepathy is an integral part of mediumship / channeling.
"You mentioned the higher teachers use empathic telepathy with you. Could you describe this more on the lines of intuitive communication or do you actually mean raw emotions? "
For me, intuition is raw emotion. If I were to bring my intuition down to the mental level I'd be defeating the purpose of it, as it's the mental level that feeds everything to our minds perceptual filters. Raw emotion - gut feelings - intuition, cannot be misinterpreted.
A good example - channeling my higher spirit self, which is essentially the source of a persons intuition, on a most basic level can be an excellent YES/NO indicator for something. YES is provided as a happy heartfelt warmth in your chest, whereas NO is provided as that pit of your stomach yuckyness. Pure emotions who's meanings are intrinsic to everyone, and don't need to be learned.
Hope this helps,
James.
Quote from: James S
A good example - channeling my higher spirit self, which is essentially the source of a persons intuition, on a most basic level can be an excellent YES/NO indicator for something. YES is provided as a happy heartfelt warmth in your chest, whereas NO is provided as that pit of your stomach yuckiness. Pure emotions who's meanings are intrinsic to everyone, and don't need to be learned.
James.
Now James has illustrated the importance of Feeling. This is a different kind of feeling to the normal use of the word in our day to day talking.
This has led us to something we could call the Recognition Tool. The feelings can go from very subtle to "you better listen to this" types. LOL It's that strong sometimes.
And everyone on the face of the planet gets the Feeling. So we recognize it when we get it, and then
let it tell us what the Feeling represents.
This is true also for when we are in other realms like the astral, the Feel of any Being is unique to them, as it also includes their Intentions. This is how we recognize Helper and Guides compared to Way-layers and Disinformers.
I'm sure we have all had the 'dread' feeling in the pit of our gut ? Like James said, it is unmistakable. And it is telling you that something is not 'right' for you.
And equally we have all felt the 'uplifting' Feeling of warmth/Love from Source at times in our lives. No points for telling what this is saying to us, LOL.
It's like cheese and chalk, totally different Feelings.
This applies to channeling and mediumship too.. which is why we are talking about it, LOL.
Love Always.
:D
i do bother if such feeling can be artificially generated
also look at many believers, they get this feeling when they read bible, chant or something
i prefer "knowing" to this feeling
the trick is to get it without bringing it down to mental level
now i mostly "talk" with myself, but this is remembering, in which i used to formulate specific request and answer to myself in words, it actually created artificial division between me (and i knew it was temporary and artificial, and choosed to remove it), now i can use whole concepts more or less, still training it
intuition is direct knowledge, but we cannot process it efficiently as of yet , and are left with vague "feeling", simplified for 3d
Hi daem0n,
Similar feelings can be generated by darksiders to the point where it may fool many people. But, with the well experienced there is a knowing of the 'flavours' or characteristics to the Feel.
You know what I mean, it's how I know it's you in my field and vice-versa, etc. It's the Flavour, the differences that make the characteristics of Feeling.
The 'flavour' of darkside is distinctive and easily noticed. You know this.
So even those 'negs' may only fool you or I for a little while, if at all... until we had tasted that feeling and have the Knowing then.
It's the same for working the Mediumship tools, the Feel of Guidance, and the like.
:P
flavours, i call them sig, for energy signature (left from interest in psionics)
i can change my sig and replace it with different one, of course you can get to original, but it requires effort and multidimensional awareness
i mean that i can "transfer" the original to higher dimensions, leaving the "dummy" in this, it is still the same, but in bigger picture
so anyone that cannot access these higher dimensions is left with the dummy and no matter how much he tries he won't get the original sig, feeling and thoughts, but rather those projected through the dummy
which brings us to the point of "light" entities, some are light through and through, and some are light up to certain dimension and you get the ugly face
you see through astral ones like glass, but the higher the more difficult it gets
and when i was scanning some (or rather being them from enlightened view) they were ok, friendly, etc, as i pushed further the true feeling, thoughts and memories came up
not mentioning that some of "negative" had their masters "feeling" like light
these demon war thing can be a real nuisance
and their sig is distinct, IF you get to it
so, knowing that there is always something higher, trust noone, until you are sure you grasped the whole of their being (now being sure is different matter)
better safe then sorry
Quote from: James SRaw emotion - gut feelings - intuition, cannot be isinterpreted.
Dear James,
I see. Your wording makes sense to me now. It is well known that the Emotional / Desire / Astral body is a
reflection of the Intuition body. It seems that in most cases, at least on present Earth, Intuition is reflected down on the Desire body and converts to raw emotions.
Your wording of "
gut feelings" really resonates with me. My point is there's a difference between emotions and intuition. Emotions come from the Desire / Astral body. This powerful emotional state can be noted while astral projecting. Even higher in vibration is Soul projection also referred to as Mental projection. Intuition is higher in vibration than the Soul. Soul is the higher Mind also referred to as Abstract thought. Below Abstract thought is the lower Mind, Concrete Mind. Below the Mind, in vibration, we find the Emotional / Desire / Astral body.
Thanks James.
Love & Peace,
Paul
Quote from: TayesinNow James has illustrated the importance of Feeling. This is a different kind of feeling to the normal use of the word in our day to day talking.
Very good Tayesin. I agree, which is what initially caught my attention because James wording of emotions through me off guard.
I think in everyday guru talk, :-), there are unique words to decipher the differences. Raw emotions / everyday common feelings are different than Intuition. Although I'm not suggesting that Intuition is not reflected or converted into feelings. It seems that in a lot of cases, and perhaps nearly all cases, that the true energy of Intuition is converted to feelings which stem from our emotional body. Since Intuition is of such a higher and purer vibration, it should be safe to suggest that the feelings that come from Intuition are very unique and different than just everyday common feelings; i.e., intuition is definitely something to be closely listened to.
Love & Peace,
Paul
Quote from: daem0nintuition is direct knowledge, but we cannot process it efficiently as of yet , and are left with vague "feeling", simplified for 3d
A+ !! I think you hit it right on it everyday terminology. That I like. :-)
A rough cut note: I don't know if this adds weight to the discussion or not!
Looking at the basic mediumistic focus (attunement) outline steps rather than the role: -
Although I have been taught this (put other words) it seems that the aspiring medium will strive to do the following: -
Bring their awareness to their own en-souled spirit then go straight to attuning with the divine/god rather than deity in the theistic sense, become aware of the world of spirit, feel into/permeate with the world of soul, and be grounded yet mindful of oneself with the senses in the physical all at the same time!!!
This way when attempting to act as a medium one is more able to be a suitable instrument before even considering inviting communication with non physical beings etc.
This also serves as a protection and increases to power available to be able to work more effectively as the medium etc! Can you see how it negates all the clap trap about, reminants/shells (whatever you call em), thought forms, negs ... and is brings forth qualities worth aspiring too: like higher(truthful) guidance/inspiration and of course genuine one two one communication with loved ones etc. Or if compared with Frank and MajorTom's discussion on the Relative Plane: skipping out the astral and going direct to F27+/Park and so on!
What I feel tends to occur is people are either attempting communication without forethought and or are being poorly instructed regardless of their well meant intents (bless em)!
This is sometimes described as 'sitting in the power'.
Best,
Stephen :)
Quote from: TayesinSimilar feelings can be generated by darksiders to the point where it may fool many people. But, with the well experienced there is a knowing of the 'flavours' or characteristics to the Feel.
The 'flavour' of darkside is distinctive and easily noticed.
Dear Tayesin,
Now what instrument do you think would be detecting such a darksider? That is, would it be your Desire body, Mind, Soul or Intuitive body be detecting the darksider?
Love & Peace,
Paul
Quote from: pmlonlineQuote from: TayesinSimilar feelings can be generated by darksiders to the point where it may fool many people. But, with the well experienced there is a knowing of the 'flavours' or characteristics to the Feel.
The 'flavour' of darkside is distinctive and easily noticed.
Dear Tayesin,
Now what instrument do you think would be detecting such a darksider? That is, would it be your Desire body, Mind, Soul or Intuitive body be detecting the darksider?
Love & Peace,
Paul
It is all Energy.
We notice the differences easily, even the sleepers feel it.
An example of knowing/feeling such differences can be observed right here.
My Intuition (which has never been wrong to date) points to two 'flavours' in this question... COLD and DARK.
The avenue these energies are coming through is unrequited Ego.
You could ask me how I know this, and I would reply, because I know from prior experience of the flavours/energetic characteristics it holds.
That is all I need to know, Intuition is clear and working, as always, details and beliefs are no longer needed to function, and this question isn't relative based on this understanding.
Are we done yet ?
Any medium you encounter is most likely a fraud. Read about what Harry Houdini did to those poor saps, man he's such a badass.
The only person you should trust to be truthful about contacting spirits is yourself. Even then, be skeptical.
Hi Tyciol,
Sadly this is very true. Many people (often extremely vulnerable) are exploited due to people and organisations (often corrupt or barely within the law) purporting to be mediums, psychics, clairvoyants etc.
This is a great shame as individual and pubic trust is so often damaged by such cruelty! There are of course people who have been exemplars, and this is something any aspiring medium should aim to become.
It is absolutely of paramount importantance that anyone who is prepared to offer themselves in service on the path of mediumship - should have amongst many other qualities: absolute integrity and come from a place that is only of unconditional love.
A good question to ask and it is sincerely hoped that my short reply is of some small comfort for you.
Stephen
Quote from: TyciolAny medium you encounter is most likely a fraud.
Dear Tyciol,
I would agree there are a lot of frauds. Some time ago I studied and became friends with a lot of local channelers. I found most of them to truly believe in what they did. Unfortunately most of them did not care to test the information from the spirits.
Quote from: TayesinAn example of knowing/feeling such differences can be observed right here. My Intuition (which has never been wrong to date) points to two 'flavours' in this question... COLD and DARK.
Are we done yet?
Quote from: TayesinDis-information has returned. The darkness lies there, behind this.
Dear Tayesin,
That's interesting. I used to do the same thing long ago. :-( Actually I stopped doing that long ago because it's not of the light, and the teachings I follow discourage that. I also used to think I was 100% accurate until I worked up enough courage to test myself. I decided to test it because a girl I knew that also claimed to be 100% accurate completely misjudged me. I did not do what she said I did. We were very close friends and one day she destroyed our friendship because of her intuition. The best intuitives in the world get around 25% accuracy? Even if she were among the best in the world, she would be wrong 75% of the time. Not good for karma.
Often what we think is intuition is usually the undeveloped desire body. The undeveloped desire body swells up with an inner force when it is threatened. That's too bad because I acquired a lot of Karma by falsely judging others. Oh I truly thought it was impersonal observation, but it was incorrect judgment.
Anyhow, this is probably an off thread topic but I wanted to mention it because I've notice you posting this stuff numerous times lately at AP. No offense intended ... just a loving FYI. :-)
Love and Peace,
Paul
so we return to facts and interpretation of them
the question to Tayesin was from the beginning meant to prove him wrong
he felt this as cold and dark
i felt it differently, the closest would be "metallic"
intuition includes connections and targets
and as to interpretation, even blind man could see your point
i feel like i am watching chess match ... i prefer go
to the last breath, one could say 8)
Paul,
I have moved this reply to the Chat section so we no longer clog up other people's threads with our discussions.
Love
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Personally, I don't think a real medium would advertise as a medium. More likely they'd offer it when it was necessary, and it usually isn't.
I personally want a real job, like programming, healing, manufacturing, the military, electrician, farmer, stuff like that. Things that provide direct tangible influence. Not things that 99% of the people who share it with you are scammers. Not to say that the former don't scam... especially with little 'screw-the-little-guy' tricks, but I don't think it's as pronounced, and done more out of necessity of profit than total disregard, I'm sure most guys are fed lies to make them believe in what they're doing.
Mediumship on its own is often looked at as the stuff of batty old women with really bad dress sense & makeup, selling their services in trashy womens magazines to the gullible and desperate.
When it really becomes useful though is in areas of spiritual guidance or councelling, reiki or other means of aura/energy body healing. In fact the healing arts are probably the most noble use of mediumship. Recieving spirit guidence to help locate a cause of dis-ease in somone's energy body can be of huge help to a healer.
I'm someone that has spent 19 years of my working life in a "real job" - working in the computer industry. I'm very dissatisfied with it as it is not who I am - something that I have recently come to grips with. What I really am is a healer & teacher. I am someone who seeks to use my psychic skills for humanitarian purposes, for the benefit of people who come to me to learn or be healed.
Those psychics who are genuine do not go into metaphysical lines of work for the purpose of earning money. They know that what they are doing is fulfilling a calling of the Universe, and know that in doing so the universe will (and does) provide all their monetary needs.
If they're in it just for the money, they're fakes. But remember also, that is is to be expected that if someone asks a psychic for healing or guidance, if that service comes for free, it will not be taken as seriously or be appreciated as much as a service that is paid for. People expect to pay for quality.
Regards,
James.
Quote from: James SThose psychics who are genuine do not go into metaphysical lines of work for the purpose of earning money. If they're in it just for the money, they're fakes.
Why? Many people go into medical practise to make money. A lot of lawyers go in to help people, that doesn't mean all lawyers who go into it for the money are fakes. It is similar with politicians.
Do you have the idea that people who are more concerned with money than helping people are somehow incapable of psychic phenomena?
Hi Tyciol,
"Do you have the idea that people who are more concerned with money than helping people are somehow incapable of psychic phenomena?"
Basically, yes!
Same goes for doctors, lawyers, or any other position of humanitarian work. If the money is the first priority, then the person is in the job for the wrong reason. Looking for financial gains more than looking to the needs of others is the best way of supressing any true psychic gift, as these gifts need to work from a position of love, and MUST come from the heart if it is to be at all effective. This is especially true for healers.
Besides, if the practicioner is honest and genuine, and the clients can see that they work in love, and care more about the people than the money, that is their best form of advertising, and they will get far more business and far more money through that giving attitude, than a practicioner who is seen to be more concerned with the money than the people.
Kind regards,
James.
Quote from: James SThose psychics who are genuine do not go into metaphysical lines of work for the purpose of earning money. They know that what they are doing is fulfilling a calling of the Universe, and know that in doing so the universe will (and does) provide all their monetary needs.
If they're in it just for the money, they're fakes. But remember also, that is is to be expected that if someone asks a psychic for healing or guidance, if that service comes for free, it will not be taken as seriously or be appreciated as much as a service that is paid for. People expect to pay for quality.
Thank you dear James! I couldn't agree more. I know the philosophy I follow teaches to never charge money for spiritual services. People will donate and the universe will provide when necessary. I've heard so many people say they were awakened in the middle of the night or had a real dream about donating to a certain place.
Peace & Love,
Paul
hi ,
i went to see a medium a long time ago at a freinds house , she was very gifted and told me alot of things related to my family that only i could know " well to cut a long story short " i asked her how she was so good at channeling to spirit , and what actually happened when she recieved such messages in her mind , " she told me that " the imagination and the power of a external thaught coming into your mind has a definite speed . A message or thaught that you did nt think of that may enter your mind without the intervension of your imagination is more rapid and quicker than you thinking of it , she went onto to talk about the " art of stillness and stilling the mind to allow a message in and to identify it through the speed responses , she also mensioned picture thaught activity ,
Sorry for changeing the subject slightly , but i found it very intersting
Experimental ; D
Hi Experimental,
Good recall - obviously the sitting with the medium had an impact for you :wink:
These are important points as if one is to embark on the path of mediumship it is paramount to be able to distinguish between the rise of one's own thoughts and that provided or sent to you by other people e.g. spirit. There is also a subtle difference btw those received or exchanged psychically with people and those of people in spirit. The use of the words
Quote"the imagination and the power of a external thought coming into your mind has a definite speed..."
do well to portray how the discerning mind can be used to act as a clear channel for spirit!
These are qualities and aspiring medium should strive to reach and continuously aim to improve upon. It also indicates the importance of working on ones own development. Be it by oneself or in learning environment like a development circle for example. As one can make all the mistakes there before running around the planet spouting off what they believe to be accurate spirit communication etc. Far too many people are pushed on to the public stage, albeit be it with good intent before they are ready!
A couple of years ago I had opportunity to fledge at a student demonstration at a well known spiritualist centre in London, but bottled out at the last moment. Although I could establish good contact with spirit and was able to obtain extremely accurate information from them - somehow I knew I was not ready. Although (and I don't mean to sound ambiguous here) I had made and attempt at open platform at the very same venue several months beforehand. In itself that had been an incredible learning experience, as I had followed a lady (apparently a working medium) who had not been very successful during her demonstration and had found that the energy in the room had fallen as flat as a pancake. Following that you might imagine it was like drawing pins out of the proverbial haystack. I learnt that regardless of how well I thought of myself (egotistically) that it takes more than just ability to be able to successfully demonstrate ones prowess as a medium. Later in the session I was asked on to the stage again to work with the very same lady and with a psychic artist. I thought 'oh gawd' what have I let myself in for. We were asked by the president of the centre to work together and make 3 way links with spirit. Thankfully we got a couple of contacts through for some of the people in the audience, but it was still hard work all the same.
Just after the session ended and everyone had left the room the president asked me to stay behind and again invited me onto the platform. She invited me to sense and feel the differences in energy in the room and to make note of how it is important factor in working on the platform. What I had learnt was that as much as we are individuals that it is the group that makes the link, be it working with other mediums, spirit and the loving connection they have with the people in the audience. It is a collaborative effort, a shared experienced to be valued, enjoyed and respected. I feel that this little lesson also helps to illustrate the responsibility a medium has to themselves, to people in spirit and to their loved ones and friends here in this world.
Therefore all the gift and talent in the world pales into insignificance without the link of love.
Sorry if this sounds all wishy washy sentiment, but I feel you raised important points worth examining.
Stephen :)
Hi Experimental,
The medium you asked the questions to provided the most clear answer I have heard in ages.
I was taught that the 'real' answer is the one that comes first, followed quickly by the input of my own mind. This has proven itself to be the case over the years.
So I see the value of the words that medium used, it explains it beautifully.
Stephen,
I truly don't understand the need for platform work ! Yet I do see how popular it is at the local spiritual church here. Seems so many people really want to hear from someone else what they could be taught to do for themselves by the same people they want to listen to.
I suppose it shows that we are slowly moving on and up, that more people are interested in the 'spiritual side of life'. I must be impatient ! Can't seem to wait for the majority to take the next step towards their own empowerment. Maybe it's because I haven't seen that much real growth (from my perspective) in the populations, well, not as much as i had hoped when I was a child.
So you feel okay now with the fear factor of working with larger crowds ? That's one of my sticking points, don't really like doing crowds, much prefer one on one. But, I see that platform work will force you to be what you are in order to provide the services needed. That's gr8 too.
:D
Hi Tayesin,
Agree with what you say. Obviously I was only giving the platform example as an illustration from personal experience, and not every one should feel that they are to follow a trad route; be it platform, private sitting and healing etc. But then I am (as are you) not a toe the line SP traditional medium LOL!!!
What you say is key in today's age as mediumship should not be exclusive and controlled by the few - it is open to us all as part of the path (to be explored if wished so) home-wards.
Stephen :wink:
yeah good debate ,
i agree " love " is important to help a possible connection with spirit , and i also like the idea that the medium told me , i found it a exelent opinion , and can see the sense in what she said ,
Anyone can sit there and imagine somthing in their mind as a message their themselves may think there are makeing with somthing beyond their own thaught process , but determinineing the speed of the thaught impact does sound like a key possibility in identifying .
And another good point is " the picture thaught activity " , it sounds like some type of " third eye clairvoyant ability " to be able to clear the mind and thwart the imagination and allow visions in to your mind without interveneing thaughts and imaginitive states to get the better of you , to maybe come up with evidence to a sitter present .
Its all very intersting
experimental :)