Money for your Gift

[Wizard of Light]

Hello all,

Just wondered what other peoples opinion is about being paid for using esoteric and psychic gifts?

You hear of people who bad mouth those like John Edwards and the like for using their psychic gifts to get them ahead in life.  Apparently, with a gift from God such as this, you should be offering your services to the masses for nothing, so that all may have access to it.

This seems like such a fine, every thing's roses kind of idea, however how is the poor person who has such an amazing gift supposed to live in the meantime?  I mean we are living in a monetary based society aren't we?

Also, if not money, then shouldn't there be some kind of energy exchange?

[Hans Solo]

I would say that as long as your gift is REAL then it is more than alright to charge for your services.  This is a mutually beneficial exchange.  THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ANYTHING THAT IS MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL, PERIOD.  Think about it, in a free market society determines how beneficial your service is by how many people engage in free exchange with you.  Money is not evil.

However, there are SO many frauds out there, John Edwards is up for debate, that they give the psychics a bad name.  Have you ever seen an advanced cold reader and mentalist like Derren Brown perform?  They can blow the doors off of most "psychics".  Psychics that claim they can talk to the dead, but are little more than bad cold readers tinkle me off.

Han

[Mustardseed]

Very good point. I am not sure what to think. I also have been somewhat turned off by people who do workshops for 1000s of dollars write books to sell etc but then again that's what they do. I guess when all comes to all it is their life and their conscience have to be their guide. It is my faith that freely you have received freely give, but it is a personal faith, and not something I would ask anyone to adhere to. As I said somewhere else I somehow wonder how it will look on their "karmic resume", giving that all they are trying to sell was given to them for free., but I guess when all comes to all we should not judge each other.

Regards Mustardseed

[karnautrahl]

All I know is I don't feel right selling healing. So I only offer it when I feel I want to do so. That isn't that often that it would ever cause me material loss. Plus I have a lot of free time.

[Hans Solo]

Runlola-

I agree with the first part of your post, however the second part confounds me.

Many things that should be free are not...school, healthcare, electricity, water, etc...

Should the teachers not get a salary, should the medical professionals not get paid, should the workers of the water company and electric company not get a salary?  Also, all the equipment that goes into building a electric company not be paid for?  This is the utopia fallacy.  The only way someone can get these services for "FREE" is by going to government and having them stick a gun in another persons mouth and demanding his money to pay for YOUR service.  This is not FREE nor a RIGHT.  In my previous post I said that ALL mutually beneficial exchanges are good.  However, this is one case of a NON mutually beneficial exchange, this is involuntary exchange by force! "

Also, ANYTIME government gets involved the costs go up for EVERYONE. This would also encourage waste of water and electricity, because hey "I'm not paying for it! For instance, some stupid lobbying group got together to have abortion covered by the insurance companies.  I don't care about the moral argument for or against abortion, but the fact of the matter is MY insurance costs went up and I AM A MAN!  One size never fits all and government can't do ANYTHING right.

Nobody OWES you (or me) anything,

HAN

[Hans Solo]

I don't have problems paying for anything. I have seen people argue over all those things saying they should be free as well. I read Tesla found a way for everyone to have free electricity & the government squashed the idea because they make more money selling electricity.

Sorry about that then Runlola!   I too LOVE Tesla and hope some of his "lost" inventions can again be resurrected.  In fact, I can not wait to go to Focus 3 so MAYBE I can find him.  I know, sounds kind of "out there", but hey never hurts to try!  

I actually had a thread on Tesla and Quoted part out of his autobiography that shows that he Phased!  read it here :http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19164  (Edit: it seems you posted there!)

Han

[thelou]

Dear Wizard of Light, everyone has the right to be paid in accordance for their contribution!  If a psychic helps someone then they are entitled to the compensation equal to the service rendered.  Take myself for example I have recently found a way to make allot of money working from home.  Am 37 years old and now am financially retired, but I provided tremendous service to others to do that.  It was not hard, anyone can do such, just provide to others and the Universe will compensate you in kind.

Those that disagree with you are coming from a position of "lack" in their lives.  The are holding on to every penny they can and believe people should give them everything for free.  These people are not in tune with how the Universe really works so pay them no heed.  Think of it this way, those that agree with you will willingly pay, those that do not will not pay.  You choose which ones you desire to have manifest in your life experience, and refuse to listen to the others.  

The Lou

[Wizard of Light]

Thank you all for your replies,

I find it a really interesting topic, as I see people in my life who struggle with whether or not to charge for their services.  I even have one friend who was doing free angel card readings on the internet, and was doing so many that she nearly burnt herself out!

I do encourage my friends to charge for their service - they are worth it, (I am surrounded by many gifted individuals).  I myself charge for my services, although I do freebies as well, depending on the circumstances.  I still struggle with the whole being paid issue, myself at times, although I know that if I had to work another full time job as well as do this for nothing, I would be too exhausted to be able to do very much of this work.

Also, this is what I am gifted at doing , just like there are gifted painters, architects, writers, accountants, etc.  Why should one person be paid for something they are gifted at, and not the other?  What makes that fair?

Please feel free to add your comments!

[James S]

When we use our psychic gifts for the benefit of others we are providing a valid service to them. We are providing spiritual healing and guidance to help bring about improvements to their lives.

Any other profession that provides people with a service like this - councellors, doctors, therapists, all charge for their knowledge and skills. We're really no different. Things that are given to people for free rarely are seen to have the same value as things that they pay for. The services of a true psychic healer are of value.

Its all about exchanges of energy - as Han put it - being mutually beneficial.

What is unfortunate is the reputation of some psychics that has meant  we all tend to be tarred with the same brush. What about all the shonky doctors out there? You hear about  malpractice suits all the time. Thing is, the medical profession is a much more socially accepted profession that psychics.

Blessings,
James.

[Mustardseed]

It does make sense to a degree that people who pour a lot of time and energy into some one or some situation, is to be somehow benefiting mutually. There seem to be however a difference between people who "charge" others for answers to life and death questions, in such case I do see it as a commercializing of spiritual gifts.

I think it is easy for some of us to accept this, maybe too easy, as it is somewhat mirrored in the commercial society in which we live, where doctors and hospitals charge for services. It just seems to be the way the world is developing, but it is in my opinion not the right way. I accept it as a necessary evil in a way, but to let people die or suffer either physically or spiritually, if they are not able to pay for the medicine or spiritual council is IMHO intrinsically WRONG. (Capitalized for emphasis).

Its just a fine balance. I understand people paying for cosmetic operation, and long time spiritual counseling and training, but I would say that any teacher who has a cold hearted "pay first" attitude is in need of some enlightening himself. Being somewhat influenced by Christianity, the famous words "Freely give cause freely you have received" comes to mind. In other instances people tried to buy the Holy ghost etc This is not to judge anyone as every situation should be judged on their individual merits and I understand lots of charities and so forth accept donations, but a degree of volunteer giving is sometimes in order.

Maybe one could argue that spending lots of time posting here as I know some do is equal to the "emergency room", yet further and maybe deeper counsel in the form of books will have to be packaged and sent and will naturally cost some. That would be fair and square. I guess I am a bit in 2 minds about this......ha That's what a Libra rising will do for you.

Just 10 cents worth

[James S]

I think it is easy for some of us to accept this, maybe too easy, as it is somewhat mirrored in the commercial society in which we live, where doctors and hospitals charge for services. It just seems to be the way the world is developing, but it is in my opinion not the right way. I accept it as a necessary evil in a way, but to let people die or suffer either physically or spiritually, if they are not able to pay for the medicine or spiritual council is IMHO intrinsically WRONG. (Capitalized for emphasis).

I do agree with this.

If you honour the universe by using the gifts you've been given for the benefit of others, the universe will honour you. In the exchange of energies, money is by no means the only way to recieve payment.

Blessings,
James