People do what I'm thinking? I've just noticed that sometimes halfway through another persons sentences (multiple people) I can "think" the sentence and they'll finish it the same way I did in my head? Is there any way to tell if I'm actually changing their sentence with my thought or is it just that because I'm working on my spirituality more and more lately (especially things like AP, meditation, and a little bit of TK) that I'm almost reading them a little. That or I'm just good at predicting the end of sentences.
Also, if this is me "changing" their sentence, then could I possibly make myself better at this and even get to the point were people follow my minds suggestions - even things like actions?
Reciprocal immanence. It is simultaneously you changing their sentence, and their sentence changing your thoughts.
Quote from: Yamabushi on October 13, 2009, 00:07:16
Reciprocal immanence. It is simultaneously you changing their sentence, and their sentence changing your thoughts.
So it's almost a connection between two people occurring where their thoughts both influence each other?
BTW - since I posted the topic I remembered an incident I had when I was probably 13/14. I had pretty much one friend at that point and time and so we spent almost every day together. He and I are still great friends, but one night I remember he was talking to his parents, I walked into the room and without even knowing what he was talking about I finished his sentence almost subconsciously. Would that be an example of this "reciprocal immanence"?
Quote from: Dusty2010 on October 13, 2009, 20:03:30
So it's almost a connection between two people occurring where their thoughts both influence each other?
More like an entanglement between two people where intention, while expressed differently (mentally on your part, verbally on the other person's part, in your instance), is the same. No one influences the other nor causes the other to do anything; it is just a synchronization.
Imagine being like this with 80% of the people you interact with in any given day.
Quote from: Yamabushi on October 13, 2009, 22:40:14
More like an entanglement between two people where intention, while expressed differently (mentally on your part, verbally on the other person's part, in your instance), is the same. No one influences the other nor causes the other to do anything; it is just a synchronization.
Imagine being like this with 80% of the people you interact with in any given day.
Ah okay. I think I understand now.
And that would just be... Well... Awkward. I notice this happening more and more with the people I'm around, and each time it's just weird. I get this really "flash" like feeling in my head and for a second the only thing in my mind is the last words of their sentence.
Is this some sort of gift? IE could I build on this ability and perhaps use it for something else? Or does it just mean that I really know people around me?
Hi dusty,
I respect yambushi's oppinion and it could well be what he says but should we not look to the more possible solutions before concluding more complicated solutions.
I mean firstly you know this person really well so thats all it could be.
secondly most people are very predictable and so it could also be that.
thirdly sometimes we pick other peoples vocab up easily and even to say there thought patterns (we sorta know how they feel and would act in a situation) so mabye you are just thinking what you think he would be and putting his vocab to it all the time subconsioulsy.
I too get this a hell of alot at least more than once a day with people i just met and the most bizzare conversations that i would never have known the least about yet still finish it off accordingly
all the while i have never thought twice about ths until you mention it.
What do you think yambushi could this be passed off as the above or is it really an psychic abillity?
take care
Quote from: Fourthdimension on October 14, 2009, 17:14:44
Hi dusty,
I respect yambushi's oppinion and it could well be what he says but should we not look to the more possible solutions before concluding more complicated solutions.
I mean firstly you know this person really well so thats all it could be.
secondly most people are very predictable and so it could also be that.
thirdly sometimes we pick other peoples vocab up easily and even to say there thought patterns (we sorta know how they feel and would act in a situation) so mabye you are just thinking what you think he would be and putting his vocab to it all the time subconsioulsy.
I too get this a hell of alot at least more than once a day with people i just met and the most bizzare conversations that i would never have known the least about yet still finish it off accordingly
all the while i have never thought twice about ths until you mention it.
What do you think yambushi could this be passed off as the above or is it really an psychic abillity?
take care
The only reason I really posted it (because I had originally thought that this was one of your possibilities) is because that ever since I've started actually working hard on meditation this has been happening more and more and even with people I hardly know. So I'm not really sure what this is :?
Quote from: Fourthdimension on October 14, 2009, 17:14:44
What do you think yambushi could this be passed off as the above or is it really an psychic abillity?
take care
It could be either. See if you can reciprocate immanence on purpose (entrain another's thoughts or intention).
could you explain more about this reciporacte immance thing. just cause i copied and pasted exacty how you spelt it and googled it but could nt find anything about it.
Where did you learn about it?
am not doubting you i would just want to have a read about it
take care all
Quote from: Fourthdimension on October 15, 2009, 20:12:54
could you explain more about this reciporacte immance thing. just cause i copied and pasted exacty how you spelt it and googled it but could nt find anything about it.
Where did you learn about it?
am not doubting you i would just want to have a read about it
take care all
Reciprocal immanence is to say "I am in you and at the same time you are in me" It's a theological theory, about the relationship between God and Human, and it can be applied from person to person- if we are all of God then we are all of each other, so we're all a part of the same, and can at times 'be connected in such a way as to be of the same mind'. Therefore, at any given time, it is possible for this you described to happen.
If you think hard, it's possible that you have at times done what someone else was thinking-of course, you wouldn't know this, and the other person would have to have some awareness to realize it.
Did I explain it good enough, Yama?
Anyway, here's a quote from a theological source:
reciprocal immanence formula": "I am (or abide) in you, and you are (or abide) in me."
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb6404/is_4_62/ai_n28878028/
Quote from: CFTraveler on October 15, 2009, 22:38:16
Reciprocal immanence is to say "I am in you and at the same time you are in me" It's a theological theory, about the relationship between God and Human, and it can be applied from person to person- if we are all of God then we are all of each other, so we're all a part of the same, and can at times 'be connected in such a way as to be of the same mind'. Therefore, at any given time, it is possible for this you described to happen.
If you think hard, it's possible that you have at times done what someone else was thinking-of course, you wouldn't know this, and the other person would have to have some awareness to realize it.
Did I explain it good enough, Yama?
Anyway, here's a quote from a theological source:
reciprocal immanence formula": "I am (or abide) in you, and you are (or abide) in me."
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb6404/is_4_62/ai_n28878028/
Bravo, Ms. Traveler!!
Smith's treatise is an excellent sort of "breakdown" of what I'm talking about, though I do not have as "Christian" of a perspective on the phenomenon as Klaus Scholtissek does. By 'immanent' I'm referring to the internal or subjective aspect of qualia, usually taken to be private, but is not, not always.
The phrase, "I am in you and at the same time you are in me," sums it up nicely, but is a little obscure. Manifest (conscious) awareness of others around you is usually more of a reciprocal sensation; I-see-you-and-you-see-me, or any other exteroceptive sense the body possesses. At some point and under a variety of circumstances, it is possible for the body-mind-spirit to open itself also to reciprocal immanence as a means of awareness-of-others, which I believe is a sort of individuated group-consciousness capacity all Life possesses. Interconnectivity at its finest. Telepathy is probably just an application of it.
YB
I agree, and like your take on it.