yeah, i hear ya, i got the same treatmeant to, but hey, each to there own eh? i just keep it to my self and share it only with like minded people, what else can ya do.
I didn't get treatment. I told her I told the truth, then left the room. That was about it. I could've lied and said I was just trying to get some attention because that's what guidance counselors want to hear, but I didn't If she called me back in I'd be all like "You adults are all the same" and just leave again. I love school :D
~Squeek
im lucky... my friends have always known i was insane. i brought it up to all of them and none of them really cared but they listened anyway. i still bring stuff like that up. and zecharia sitchin. all the time. [:)]
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I haven't told anybody how much i'm into this stuff. My parents know i'm researching this kind of stuff because they are often the ones who get my books for me, but i don't think they know how much. STill, i can tell my mum is a bit caucious of it. Part of her thinks i'm becoming this evil devil-worshipper because i've bought one book which explores black magic and also just because i'm getting into the occult. My friends have no idea and i'd like to keep it that way. They're pretty closed-minded people, truth be told. My sister is into this stuff too though so she's right there if i wanna talk to her about it. And my cousin, well she's a reiki master (or something like that) and a wiccan (sp?), and all that stuff so she's WELL into it :P and so is her partner, who i consider a cousin anyway now (he got me into it all in the first place).
So i have a healthy source of people to talk to about it when i want, without losing friends or anything.
I'm now going through a kundalini cleaning process and I can hardly sleep or join in with others at anything. The most of the day I am focusing on the energy, or resting. Even at work, things are becoming very difficult and still I can't tell anyone. I'm 19 and still living with parents, it's not easy to keep everything to myself. I'm worried that if anything serious happens, I won't know how to explain myself, and they might begin to take some sort of action. I'll have to wait and see :)
Wow. MY dad goes the libarry every week or so. So I have the opportunity, I just can't do anything about it because like, he'd see the books I chose. So, I'm gonna have to wait like a year until I can drive myself to the libarry -.-
Stupid parent's couldn't even take me to the DMV to get my permit until I was 16 1/2. Yeesh. I should've been driving last year.
~Squeek
Hi,
Wanna hear my experience? No? Well you are anyway:
Sister- She was ok when I told her, but now she says to my parents "He thinks he can do energy stuff, mom!". And I am not exacly the most sane person that my parents know...
Friends- One of them is a spiritualist way before I knew about this, so he accepted it easily. My best friend accepted it easily too. My other friend was ok when I told him, then he wanted proof. So I showed him, then he believed fully.
Other people- One of my friends told some other people about it, and now they dont believe it, even though I have showed them. They spread it round the school, so everyone was saying "Show us ya ball of mist!". lol. So I did. They believed it too. So now im known as "The safe one". lol.
Cya,
James.
Because you can actually DO things....
~Squeek
My parents would think I'm off my rocker, my brothers would tell their school I think I'm Harry Potter, and my friends would ask for proof. IF I showed them proof they'd either a)Think I'd lost it b)listen to my brothers c)think it's cool and want to try it, or d)tell the school that I'll perform for money. I can't concentrate when people are watching.
I only have one friend, who knew I'd like it and told me. That's how I got interested. Other than him, I erase my internet logs and write before anyone gets up or when I'm alone (like now).
Besides, I don't mind keeping it secret, and I can always talk to you guys[:D]
Well, that part is alright for me. I own my own computer. But I'll never tell anybody else. Because even though there are many good things that can come from telling a friend (like them being interested and then I get a lil' partner to compete against for greatness) or i lose a friend. The risk is too high.
~Squeek
Agree with MJ-12!
I talk with my wife, as I know she has an understanding of things metaphysical. Other than that, I only talk to people of a like mind. Friends who do not have an understanding or acceptence of the astral/spiritual will not react well unless they are a very close friend AND open minded.
James.
My parents and my brother don't know anything (I think). I kinda prefer it that way for now, until I have something to show for, lest they think I'm crazy or devil worshipping or whatnot.
I lightly told two of my high school friends about it, without going into too much detail. They're both Christians, so at first they were kinda worried about my soul being damned to hell for this, hehehe... [:P]
Eventually, I explained about my position, and now they don't really worry anymore. It's actually nice that we now go into religious discussions that are interesting and thought-provoking.
The only other person who knows completely what I'm doing is my (now) best friend. He was the one who got me started in this stuff. He had just starting reading Journey's out of the Body. I thought it was a novel at the time, then he started explaining......
And that's how I got to where I am now.
Well here is my story about telling people around me:
Friends: I have only one friend that is open-minded enough to believe in something like astral projection, mataphysics, psionics etc. This friend I can share everything with and he shares everything with me. This really helps! I have lots of other friends, but I have never told them my or my friends interest in the "supernatural"(never did like that word). My advise is to tell the fiend you know can handle it, tell it to a friend you know very well.
Family: I have not told anyone in my family. My mother knows something is "strange" and I might haveto tell her and my father soon. My mother has allthough the few times she has caught me meditating or phasing, made jokes about me meditating. My brother I have not yet told, as he seems to be very bound to the physical world, just as my parents are. I plan to tell my family one day, when I have gathered enough skills to prove it to them. I feel like I owe them that much, or at least I think it would be the right thing to do.
Regards,
TruthSeeker
"Yes, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil." (Psalms 23:4)
Let's play scenario! Only with my life, and those who ridicule me for my beleifs!
Situation A : (Ex-friend) : If you showed me the slightest bit of progress in any way, then I'd be all into it.
Outcome 1 - I fire away at this guy and he falls over with a couple of people watching. He is astonished that I was able to do so, and thus asks me everything about it. I tell him websites, and he tells his friends, and they tell their friends (because of course, he's 100% beleivable...even though he lies all the time...). It spreads like wildfire. He makes headlines, etc etc etc.
Outcome 2 - I fire away and nothing happens at all. More ridicule. I make a huge fool of myself. I'd probably drop it altogether just to be accepted again.
Outcome 3 - I don't do / say ANYTHING. Nothing happens. Old friend eventually loses interest in mocking me, everybody forgets, we're all happy.
Send in your own if you feel like it. Obviously in my example, you'd go with 3 right? That's what I did!
~Squeek
Dear Squeek,
One of the difficult things to realize as we progress in our own spiritual paths is that we are all human beings and equal at the surface level - we all came from mothers, we all possess spirit and potential, we all live, we all eventually die. Where we are not all equal (from the linear perspective of time) is that we are all at different stages of spiritual evolution.
With the latter realization comes the understanding that not everyone is ready to grasp Universal Truth at the same level as everyone else.
When you cast your pearls of wisdom before those that are not ready to swallow them, they simply spit them out. They are not yet ready to stomach such things. Their inner being is not capable of processing such information because they lack some level of knowledge you possess and more importantly profound experiences of their own which have challenged their previous sense of reality.
This is not to suggest that you are a superior being to others, because you are like them just a tiny part of ALL there is and without going into deep philosophical ramblings, my advice to everyone would be that silence in your path will often do more toward your advancement than time wasted in pointless deliberations with those that lack a base to offer any reciprocation in your enlightening experiences.
It is ok to seek people with whom you may indeed share your experiences and revelations, however, I would strongly advise anyone considering in doing so to establish a probationary period with any potential candidate. In this probationary period you will then have a chance to weed out those that you feel would react negatively to your input on such subjects.
Some of the things to keep in mind in the evaluation process of such people are:
1) That they have an open mind that reality may indeed be something beyond their current understanding and that they can listen to new theories and discuss them logically with you without calling to the aid of an exorcist. [;)]
2) Take the time to get to know the person deeper by slowly easing into topics of conversation that peer into who they are and what their belief system consists of. Eventually, you may pose basic but very profound questions to them about their view of reality and then LISTEN to their answers. Usually the more defined they are in their views, often the more close minded they are, but do avoid stereotyping people, they are all unique individuals and sometimes the ones that seem the most close minded are the ones that are more easily susceptible to the immediate change in their ideologies once their view of reality has been challenged in the proper way. The half-wise usually realize how little of the Ultimate truth they really know and do not claim to know much of anything, but sometimes their humbling manner of expression may often be wrongly dismissed as if they are a being of little understanding and experience when in reality they may actually understand far more than you do. The truly wise will be wise enough to only offer you what you need to hear at your stage of evolution in a language you may comprehend.
3) That you realize that your understanding and even your experience and skill, regardless of how high compared to others may only amount to a grain of sand in the Sahara and that therefore you too should be humble in your approach and also be open minded to new ideas and experiences that indeed challenge your view of Reality. It is only through the process of dissecting challenging ideologies to yours that will allow for your growth in terms of realizing that indeed your view point is solid more truthful or that perhaps the challenging ideology is better than the one you had. Be humble and realize that there are wiser people out there that know more than you do. It is sometimes encounters with these very types of people that make the undertaking of reaching out worth risking disappointment and ridicule.
4) Be sure you are clear about the reasons for your approaching the people you are approaching. Avoid at all costs trying to convert people to your views of reality, even if you are convinced and have proof they are true. As was said before, not everyone is ready to accept what you've accepted
5) Ask more questions rather than trying to provide answers to those who do not seek them, but if you ask questions, be sure to listen and do not judge people for their conclusions which might have been the same as yours, had you lived their lives in their shoes. Be accepting of your differences and simply move on if the person you have approached is not compatible with your experiences and realizations.
Take good care,
Adept of Light
GO ADEPT!!!
Pshh... I'm not reading all of that... I got...nothing better to do and not alot of time to do it!
~Squeek
Dear Adept of Light:
Sometimes we may wonder if the voice we send out into the Universe just keeps on resonating into infinity, or if it per chance alights upon some unsuspecting spirit and changes a perception, be it ever so gentle, yet ever so profound...
I found such wisdom in your response, it still has me smiling. I only began meditating and energy work the latter part of January 2003. But so much has happened to me in this short time, from Kundalini experiences to conscious OBEs, lucid dreams and a visit from a being of light that my husband saw as I meditated in the room next to him). I want to share, shout and include everyone in my world. But alas, as it should be, some joys are ours to savor alone, a coveted gift to ourselves, a secret that makes us glow inside to anyone who might take the time to observe.
Thank you!
pj
scream it from the rooftops. at least if youre like auraseer you can blast the ones that dont believe you into oblivion.
" Pshh... I'm not reading all of that... I got...nothing better to do and not alot of time to do it!"
well at least your post count is steadily increasing.
I try to get into the habit of only discussing things with people if they are likely to be interested.
I don't really care who knows, but im not going to talk about it if they arent going to be listening.
This is probably the reason why i have a wide range of friends (interest wise). I'll talk sports to the sporty people, computers to computer people etc.
None of my friends will disown me for being interested in this sort of stuff, but probably would avoid me if went on and on about it.
My parents arent bothered either. Could be something to do with having particularly unreligeous family and friends.
Anyway, thats my experience:)
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scream it from the rooftops. at least if youre like auraseer you can blast the ones that dont believe you into oblivion
you don't gotta rub it in........
And yes of course my post count is rising. I wish there were more topic i could reply to.
It is no surprise to me that most people who project find it difficult to talk about their experiencs with others. Other than these message boards there have only been 5 or 6 occasions where I discussed this subject. On only 2 of those occasions did another person relate a first-hand out of body experience.
All of this goes to show that many of the old religious and social inhabitions regarding OBEs still exist. [8)][V][8D]
Im like new to this forum, but anyhow i guess i was somewhat lucky when i got into this stuff. Like i cant really do any of it yet, but i can tell I am still developing something even tho it may not be noticeable. anyhow, heres what happened when i told a few peeps.
Sister- she kinda found out when she saw me lookin on the internet, but she was okay with it and she does meditation sometimes at nite now, but not really into it as i am.
Parents- well my dad didnt really care, but now whenever I meditate, my mom just laughs at what i do.
Boss at work- He is into this kind of thing too but with the meditation so he got into it and now im teachin him some stuff i know, heh.
Friend- he didnt really care and just went on about how meditation for him was soccer and was in different forms than sitting with eyes closed.
so yea some peeps cared some didnt, others laugh at me, so sue me. as long as i like what i do, im all set.
Most people on earth are ignorant and want to stay that way. They beLIEve things for many reasons other than they think its true. If you tell them about spiritual/astral/etc, they will hate you because you are different. Some might go as far as putting you in a nut house because you dont believe their lies. Only tell people who are VERY open minded and smart.
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Originally posted by Greytraveller
It is no surprise to me that most people who project find it difficult to talk about their experiencs with others. [8)][V][8D]
I think thats a pretty important distinction. I have no problem stating "I believe all that stuff is possible". Or some watered down version of theories. Such as "People claim.. or I read somewhere", but as far as saying "I have OBE's" I have a hard time with this.
For one, I feel like Im bragging. And it comes off that way. To people who dont know one thing about metaphysical stuff thats almost like saying "im an angel" or "im very advanced" its not natural for most people. The second was what I learned from something I thought was harmless.. When I started realizing not everyone had lucid dreams I told my mom "I know when Im dreaming and I can often do things in them to control them". She almost flat out said i was lying and looked at me weird.
I didnt even know they were called LD's then. So before a person goes around telling people they can AP or they can ki blast someone you should also look at your motives. Maybe its better to educate them on the theories behind it and make it less "mysical" and "supernatural" first. But stating you can do these things often does sound like you think you're christ like.
Some people think if you say you're psychic you should be able to read their minds. Or you should be able to heal. Its just too "mysical" and "supernatural" still to go around telling everyone YOU are one of the ones who can do these things. If you have understanding parents fine, but often people will be nice about things and think "he's full of excrement".
I guess my point was i think its different talking about these issues as if its just a topic, and saying "I can do this and that".
Though if you're from a religious family maybe talking about the possibilities will even be dangerous.
It is hard talking about it to most people. Its not because I'm embarrassed. They just dont want to know. They like to be ignorant. We've all been where they are for many lifetimes.
The first week you learn about all this information, you gotta tell somebody, you know? Friends, Family, Neighbors, etc. Well, I made this topic for some odd reason that had to do with advising people never to do that. I'll even list why!
Friends - Make sure you know who your friends really are. I told 5 of who I thought were my closest friends, guess how many are still buddies with me? ONE. I lost the other four. They now hate me. Everyday I face ridicule for what I beleive (Which i find appaling but still...) The other friend kinda just shrugged it off. He understands why I want to pursue it, but never brings it up in a comversation (AND doesn't tell the entire school of 2100 students)
Neighbors - If you have neighborhood friends, the odds are actually greater towards success somehow. I still recommend keeping it to yourself, but I told my neighbor (who happened to love DragonBallZ) and he was totally into it, moreso than me... He's probably farther along too, but we don't really chat during the school year.
Family - Lemme break this one down into 2 parts.
Brothers / Sisters - This is a 50/50 chance here. Either they will accept it and even try some of their own, or they will hate you / tell on you (for something...) Personally, I wouldn't even tell my sister how old i am, that's how much I keep from her (even though it's not hard to find out...)
Parents - Ok. Now, with my parents, they'll think I'm crazy again and send me to the school psychologist. Beleive me, it HAS happened before. Parents are the most non-understanding people in the world!
Here's my story from 4th grade that made my parents worried for my sanity.
Back in the day, I lived in a tiny room with a "bunk" bed that my dad built that really sucked. I had a very old computer, but I still had to use it for school and stuff. One day, when I arrived home from school, I smelled this horribly purtid STANK that was coming from my computer. It smelled like a dead mouse and, since those weren't to uncommon in OUR crappy house, that's what I figured it was. My parents never smelled anything. I didn't understand. So one day I'm minding my own business at school, using a shiny book cover to reflect sunlight in this guy's eyes during a test that I had already finished in about 2 seconds and I got called to the guidance office. She wanted to talk to me about dead mice -.-
So you see, my parents think I'm crazy. Can't tell them anything that's not "normal"
Feel free to yell at me, question my statements, or post your own comments.
~Squeek
PS - Dont Tell Anybody!!!