How do you feel about the g-word?

[Astralzombie]

On a personal level, if it was possible to remove every gun from the US civilian population, I would be alright with taking my chances with a tyrannical government. Even though I'm sure there are many people who have lived through such and say I'm an idiot for being passive in that regards.

Personally, I think I would rather be shot than to be sliced open with a sharp instrument. I've never been shot but I've had a few deep cuts including a very bad incident with a filet knife. I cringe just thinking about that.

Stillwater--What you are saying about our two-party system is the truth. They only pretend to take different stances on certain things to create the illusion of choice for us. The only real party is the one they attend to celebrate their cooperative success. That's very cynical, I know, but only fools believe otherwise. Ignorance really can be bliss I suppose, but I personally despise ignorance. Without getting all "Alex Jones" on everybody, I think there is some truth to a lot of conspiracies out there.

Grey--I personally could not be a vigilante (not that that was your point but it came to mind) but that may end up being the only answer to all those punks. There are too many people that excuse their murderous behavior. They think that if they didn't have a gun, they would be darling little angels. It's as if they couldn't help themselves because they were in the presence of a gun.

Chop--I know that must have been terrifying but be grateful for the good guys with guns. The problem is that good guys can overreact and the end result still be bad. I hope you gave your neighbor a good lashing. What a mess.

[Astralzombie]

Chop--I know it seems like paranoia on the part of people who think this is gonna lead to an all out gun ban, but it's a logical approach to dismantle the second amnd step by step, rather than upset the masses in one full swoop. In spite of that point, Obama, the big cheese himself, has not only said it in the past, he has done much more than talk and took action.

He was a chairman for a non profit group called the Joyce foundation. While a total gun ban is not their stated mission, they have heavily funded other groups that have made that their stated mission.

Even worse, he was there when the Joyce foundation was the lead instigator in a scandal that involved publishing heavily biased reviews that were all anti-second amnd in law journals. As I'm sure you are aware, our courts rely on unbiased law reviews as well as case precedence (former court rulings) when determining decisions.

What they did was not only criminal but it was just plain atrocious. The info is easily attainable online, including wiki if you ever want to take a quick glance. I'm not trying to persuade your opinion one way or the other, but I am always personally grateful for a chance to be better informed. Regards.

[Greytraveller]

Greetings
Hello its_all_bad
Personally I see a big and important difference between a vigilante ( a person who patrols and searches for criminals) and an ordinary law abiding citizen who carries a gun for self defense.

Hello Bedeekin
The Pierce Morgan - Alex Jones interview has been a hot issue here. That got me into looking at an older Pierce Morgan interview of Jessie Ventura. I'm not a big fan of Ventura but he did makes some very good points during that interview. Ventura's best argument was that if he (Ventura) had been inside the cinema during the Batman movie shooting then he (Ventura) could have used his concealed weapon to prematurely end the massacre.
While that may sound like bragadocio (sp)to many people it is actually a rational and sound argument. Gun crimes Are deterred by law abiding citizens who either carry guns or own firearms in their place of residence. I do not recommend that every person either carry a gun or even own a firearm but I do support the right of any non felon who wishes to legally purchase a firearm by lawful means to do so.

Cheers
Grey

[Bedeekin]

ChopstickFox said the most logical thing in her statement about people with training being allowed to carry weapons. Some sort of psychological evaluation and strict training would be a good start. Trained citizens. Each community having delegated civilians with the ability to act when idiots try to be idiots... not to police the streets... just as an armed response to a nasty situation. It's a fantasy and a rather interesting idea for a film. 

Not having a strong aversion to a belief system would also be a good start. If they are part of a far right church or are super religious... take their guns away... in god they trust - They don't need a weapon to promote their beliefs.

In Shreveport where I stayed during my trip to louisiana... people could leave their doors unlocked and there was almost zero burglaries in residential areas. Basically the crims wouldn't want to take their chances on trespassing.

[Astralzombie]

Grey- So do I. My mind began to wonder about what to do with all those punks and Charles Bronson came to mind. "Death Wish 3" particularly.

Beedeekin- What do your friends, family, and co-workers think about your concealed weapons permits? I imagine it's something similar to this, whether or not they admit it: "For crying out loud. If the yanks will allow a foreigner who believes he has OOBE's, to legally carry a gun, they'll let anybody."

[Bedeekin]

Well I actually own several guns in the US under somebody else's permit. Not sure how it works. I might sell them back off.

They don't quite realise what it was like when I say I have one or what I did when I was in the US. It's so away from their reality and experience of life that I think it just non-plusses them.

[Bedeekin]

Oh god... now an ex-cop has gone on a rampage....

http://abcnews.go.com/US/christopher-dorners-truck-found-flames-beat-mountain/story?id=18427632

No doubt people will think he's a government 'plant' designed to flare the argument of gun-control further.

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Edit #2: I'm an idiot, & vow to never leave a comment on anything ever again, or speak, about anything, ever.

[Lionheart]

Edit #2: I'm an idiot, & vow to never leave a comment on anything ever again, or speak, about anything, ever.

Am I missing something here?

[Mini stapler]

I basically went a bit multiple personality, & had an argument with myself about how pointless, stupid & possibly not true my original comment was, so I edited it to clear it up a bit, then I just deleted it all. I was having a bit of a 'moment'. Sorry!

[Astralzombie]

I basically went a bit multiple personality, & had an argument with myself about how pointless, stupid & possibly not true my original comment was, so I edited it to clear it up a bit, then I just deleted it all. I was having a bit of a 'moment'. Sorry!

I'm positive that I read your original comment, though I don't remember it, I certainly wasn't as confused as I was when I read your edit.

[Mini stapler]

I'm positive that I read your original comment, though I don't remember it, I certainly wasn't as confused as I was when I read your edit.

Don't worry, I was just having a brain dead moment, I could have left a perfectly intelligible comment, & still would of done this. Like I said, was having a 'moment'. 

[Lookedynamixhales]

I am from the U.K ...we hear a lot of talk about guns and the issues surrounding them IMHO i think its up to the individuals.
I know this sounds silly but in an American dad episode Stan says " Guns don't kill people, People kill People " which is true maybe the background checks should be more in depth but somebody could as easily get a knife and stab someone people wouldn't protest saying "BAN THE KNIFE" so i think an individual is well with in their rights to own a firearm 

[Astralzombie]

Honestly, I know their importance to my country and my own heritage but I can't defend them anymore.

I am giving my entire collection to my father and cousin. I am keeping my first rifle that was ever given to me-winchester .22 pump.

But I doubt it will ever know another bullet again.

[Bedeekin]

Honestly, I know their importance to my country and my own heritage but I can't defend them anymore.

Strait... and to the point there Iab.

I'm calling you Iab from now on... it's easier to write and I figured you wouldn't get insulted because it's not your real name.

[Astralzombie]

Just call me Bad, James Bad. But I'm really Simon.

Yes, of course. I am lazy and very fond of acronyms myself.

[Bedeekin]

I thought this was very funny.

Actually... all of his letters to different people are funny.

http://www.27bslash6.com/guns.html

[Astralzombie]

I thought this was very funny.

Actually... all of his letters to different people are funny.

http://www.27bslash6.com/guns.html

For years I thought my grandfather felt strongly about everything but it turned out he was just deaf and gave a f@!& about very little.

My ribs hurt now. Thanks, I'm thinking about making that emblem my new avatar.

[Bedeekin]

I'm sorry to highjack this thread... but I literally put my back out reading this.

http://www.27bslash6.com/missy.html

[Astralzombie]

I'm sorry to highjack this thread... but I literally put my back out reading this.

http://www.27bslash6.com/missy.html

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[Lionheart]

"I actually rescued a cat once. I was walking across a bridge, over a river that was in flood, when I heard mewing and saw a frantic cat being pulled along. I picked up a fairly hefty branch and threw it over the rail to where the cat was. I did not see it after that but I am pretty sure it would have climbed on and ridden the branch over the next set of rapids and waterfall to safety."

I wonder if she broke a nail flinging that stick, lol. This is the kind of hero the World needs more of, lol.