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Title: Cloud Atlas Trailer
Post by: dotster on September 16, 2012, 21:57:39
Looks like it should be a pretty interesting movie with a great cast. Thought some of you would enjoy it :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWnAqFyaQ5s&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWnAqFyaQ5s&feature=related)
Title: Re: Cloud Atlas Trailer
Post by: Lionheart on September 16, 2012, 22:57:24
 It does look interesting. Thank you for sharing!  :-)
Title: Re: Cloud Atlas Trailer
Post by: NoY on September 17, 2012, 09:36:18
that does look interesting


:NoY:
Title: Re: Cloud Atlas Trailer
Post by: Stookie_ on September 17, 2012, 11:22:24
I'm all for a good sci-fi flick. Hopefully the Wachowskis will deliver.
Title: Re: Cloud Atlas Trailer
Post by: Stillwater on September 26, 2012, 12:31:04
Indeed. It looks like it has potential.

I couldn't help but get the feeling I was watching a single trailer for five different movies though, haha... it is hard to imagine a cohesive plot that covers all of those ideas and hooks and does so gracefully and with depth, but who knows, maybe they could pull it off  :wink:
Title: Re: Cloud Atlas Trailer
Post by: Stookie_ on September 27, 2012, 11:22:52
Quote from: Stillwater on September 26, 2012, 12:31:04
I couldn't help but get the feeling I was watching a single trailer for five different movies though, haha... it is hard to imagine a cohesive plot that covers all of those ideas and hooks and does so gracefully and with depth, but who knows, maybe they could pull it off  :wink:

I read that it could be like a sci-fi version of The Fountain. Not necessarily the story, but how the story is told.
Title: Re: Cloud Atlas Trailer
Post by: dotster on September 30, 2012, 06:33:36

Quote from: Stillwater on September 26, 2012, 12:31:04
Indeed. It looks like it has potential.

I couldn't help but get the feeling I was watching a single trailer for five different movies though, haha... it is hard to imagine a cohesive plot that covers all of those ideas and hooks and does so gracefully and with depth, but who knows, maybe they could pull it off  :wink:

It actually does follow 6 different people's story lines through their various incarnations and how they've interacted with each other through out the period of human history on Earth. I agree with you though, it seems like a difficult task! I hope that they can pull it off too. I actually just went out and bought the book today because I'm a little worried they won't be able to pull it off and I want to know what's going on. Is that cheating? haha
Title: Re: Cloud Atlas Trailer
Post by: catmeow on September 30, 2012, 19:16:53
Hmmm, looks like one to watch. Stunning sets, and cinematography too.
Title: Re: Cloud Atlas Trailer
Post by: Stillwater on October 01, 2012, 10:53:36
Yeah, I read the wiki as well... they are 6 stories framed in one linked narritive.

I remember at the end of "What Dreams May Come" (or "Robin Williams goes to heaven"), there was a scene at the close where he and his wife decided to reincarnate, to meet all over under different circumstances. It seems like this film might have a similar premise.
Title: Re: Cloud Atlas Trailer
Post by: dotster on October 01, 2012, 14:55:12
Quote from: Stillwater on October 01, 2012, 10:53:36
Yeah, I read the wiki as well... they are 6 stories framed in one linked narritive.

I remember at the end of "What Dreams May Come" (or "Robin Williams goes to heaven"), there was a scene at the close where he and his wife decided to reincarnate, to meet all over under different circumstances. It seems like this film might have a similar premise.

That's one of my favorite movies so that would be alright with me hehe. The fact that Robin Williams is one of my favorite actors might have some influence there though >.<
Title: Cloud Atlas - Travel far enough, you meet yourself
Post by: dreamingod on January 01, 2013, 03:10:27
I've just watched the movie 'Cloud Atlas' and recommend it to Astral Pulse members
as it explores the many ideas and insights we find ourselves discussing here in this forum.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1371111/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1371111/)

The movie is in non-linear story telling mode and is much fragmented.
Watch carefully, recognise the actors in the various roles they play; can be confusing.
Like many stories and dreams woven together by its common thread, synchronicities
and character traits, 'Cloud Atlas' confronts the idea that our souls and lives are all connected.

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTczMTgxMjc4NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNjM5MTA2OA@@._V1._SY317_.jpg)

Quote"Our lives are not our own.
We are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future."

"Travel far enough, you meet yourself."

"Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. "

"Strip back the beliefs pasted on by governesses, schools, and states, you find indelible truths at one's core. Rome'll decline and fall again, Cortés'll lay Tenochtitlán to waste again, and later, Ewing will sail again, Adrian'll be blown to pieces again, you and I'll sleep under the Corsican stars again, I'll come to Bruges again, fall in and out of love with Eva again, you'll read this letter again, the sun'll grow cold again. Nietzsche's gramophone record. When it ends, the Old One plays it again, for an eternity of eternities."

"Memories are their own descendents masquerading as the ancestors of the present."

― David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas


The dreamer who is aware of his many dreams in many alternate/reincarnated lives,
experiences the coalescing of these memories, transforming self commensurately.
He meets his many aspects of self, enabling him to overcome his fears and shadow self
to born future generations fed on experiences, stories and myths of past ages.

Title: Re: Cloud Atlas Trailer
Post by: M4RT1N on January 01, 2013, 14:36:56
It does look interesting indeed.  :lol:
Title: Was the movie portrayed the way the Author intended?
Post by: dreamingod on January 06, 2013, 11:05:16
A chart to help keep track of the characters. A perspective.

(http://s8.postimage.org/y6mevgmt1/Reincarnations_Cloud_Atlas.jpg)

Source of image. Higher resolution: http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/33823/_1351547825.jpg (http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/33823/_1351547825.jpg)


I am going to read the novel "Cloud Atlas" by David Mitchell because I think the
movie producers and investors may have emphasised certain aspects of the story in a different context
than what the author may have intended.

eg.
Quote"Haskell Moore: There is a natural order to this world, and those who try to upend it do not fare well."

― David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas

This is a reference to Darwinian philosophy.
Coming from the character, an industrialist Haskell Moore, in this context the "natural order"
is summed up in a belief of a competition, survival of the fittest paradigm.

Conversely aspects of the movie conveyed the idea that love and compassion
transforms people/humanity, nurtures better relationships, facillitates hopes and dreams
for an equitable world.
I believe this is the 'natural order'.
I think the movie producers and investors did not give sufficient attention to this message.


Quote"If we believe that humanity may transcend tooth and claw, if we believe divers races & creeds can share this world as peaceably as the orphans share their candlenut tree, if we believe leaders must be just, violence muzzled, power accountable & the riches of the Earth & its Oceans shared equitably, such a world will come to pass."

― David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas

~

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Title: Re: Cloud Atlas Trailer
Post by: Stillwater on January 06, 2013, 22:39:29
I saw the film, dreaminggod, and did not realized it was nearly that complex a relationship.

I had imagined that it was simply 2 characters that were present in each of the 6 moments in time, always more-or-less in the leading roles.

I don't think anyone could have figured out that chart by watching the film alone once, lol, it is not what I would have exepcted at all.