The Spirit World (article)

[Tiny]

Dear friends,

this is a vastly different view, something you probably won't hear from the ascension/enlightenment/spirit-evolution etc. new-age community at all but I think that everyone deserves to atleast have seen the other side of the coin.
So tighten your seat belts because reading this might hurt some of you.


http://canng.com/articles/spirit_world.htm

[Xanth]

I tried my hardest to read that entire thing... but I just couldn't finish it.  >_<

I'll just be nice and say I disagree with just about everything said in that article. 

[Everlasting]

Why do you spread this deceptive nonsense, Tiny.

[CFTraveler]

Here is an interesting comment on her writings.
http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2959

Like most spiritual 'gurus', hers is a relligiously-based worldview, and it seems to be working for her. 

[Tiny]

Like most spiritual 'gurus', hers is a relligiously-based worldview, and it seems to be working for her.  

Dear CFTraveler,

have I been missing something? I don't see the religious implication.

According to her the info she gives out is all by herself and her memory and I honestly can't see links to any sort of group, movement or religion.

With due respect, If you really want to put Amitakh Stanford into a category it would have to be the "whistleblower" category.



peace

[CFTraveler]

Most of her cosmology comes from gnosticism.  The article that was posted  showed the correlation with her statements- (if I didn't post a link someone else did).  Gnosticism started out as a religion, later it splintered into smaller factions, one of which became christianity.  Although their rituals differed between groups, their basic cosmology was the same:  The creator is not good, the creator is evil.  So 'x' amount of people/citizens are inherently evil, 'y' amount are inherently good.   So no, I wouldn't call her a 'whistleblower', because what she says has been said before, assigning the 'evil' class to specific races, or cultures.  As times have changed, the groups designated as 'evil' or 'not human' have changed, but the basic premise hasn't changed:  Only a specific group is good enough, the other group doesn't deserve anything good because they're 'defective', so we don't have to acknowledge their humanity, we can feel good about hating/fearing them.
Same old story, different people saying it.

[Tiny]

Most of her cosmology comes from gnosticism.  The article that was posted  showed the correlation with her statements- (if I didn't post a link someone else did).  Gnosticism started out as a religion, later it splintered into smaller factions, one of which became christianity.  Although their rituals differed between groups, their basic cosmology was the same:  The creator is not good, the creator is evil.  So 'x' amount of people/citizens are inherently evil, 'y' amount are inherently good.   So no, I wouldn't call her a 'whistleblower', because what she says has been said before, assigning the 'evil' class to specific races, or cultures.  As times have changed, the groups designated as 'evil' or 'not human' have changed, but the basic premise hasn't changed:  Only a specific group is good enough, the other group doesn't deserve anything good because they're 'defective', so we don't have to acknowledge their humanity, we can feel good about hating/fearing them.
Same old story, different people saying it.

Dear CFTraveler,

I can see that. In fact I was almost going to mention gnosticism.

However she goes much further than the Gnostic.

She is saying that the evil creator of the Universe was actually created by an evil demiurge who created the astral worlds and all matter in the first place.



peace

[Stookie]

I was gonna bring up gnosticism the other day as well.

However she goes much further than the Gnostic.

She is saying that the evil creator of the Universe was actually created by an evil demiurge who created the astral worlds and all matter in the first place.

That's gnosticism in a nutshell: everything is created as a means to keep us from the truth. It's what a good chunk of the Matrix movies are based on as well.

[iNNERvOYAGER]

Even Monroe supports this view, although his explanation is more westernized than this traditional Indian concept.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/why_are_we_here_according_to_robert_monroe-t30484.0.html

Monroe talks about the increasing "load factor" as we cycle deeper and more encumbered with each iteration as we spiral into this pit called creation.
Another word for Karma and being caught in the web?

IMO, this is just standard and easy to understand why this system of creation is a tragically failed experiment, so dysfunctional, and perpetuated by corrupt evil beings.

Good post Tiny, thanks.

[Tiny]

Even Monroe supports this view, although his explanation is more westernized than this traditional Indian concept.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/why_are_we_here_according_to_robert_monroe-t30484.0.html

Monroe talks about the increasing "load factor" as we cycle deeper and more encumbered with each iteration as we spiral into this pit called creation.
Another word for Karma and being caught in the web?

IMO, this is just standard and easy to understand why this system of creation is a tragically failed experiment, so dysfunctional, and perpetuated by corrupt evil beings.

Good post Tiny, thanks.

Dear iNNERvOYAGER,

thanks for the reminder, I will try to check it out later.


More and more people are waking up from the slumber they are in, this virtual-reality that is a system that is keeping them enslaved.
Unfortunately the majority of people seem to not really seek the truth here but only try to find a belief-system that suits their particular life-situation the most and also their own wishful thinking.

And besides - doesn't it simply hurt to realize that you've been living a lie and supported a system of insanity for thousands of years?


The fact is that people and all incarnates are slaves. We are all slaves thrown into this hellhole after having accepted the perpetual lie that is repeated in the astral world - which is that we are coming here to learn.


Amitakh stresses this - Karma is merely a system, it is NOT something cosmic and it is NOT divine and that one way of breaking the bondage of Karma is to not accept this sick rule.
Karma is a never ending spiral of negativity you see, you can not end suffering through Karma. You can only end suffering by allowing forgiveness, which would effectively break the cycle and allow beings to get out of it. But the rulers of the astral world do not accept forgiveness because they are slave-masters, keepers of the System.

Be free from karma in 0 days by

1. stopping to impose Karma (punishment) on anyone here in the physical and don't accept your punishment from others either. Treat people from your heart instead.
2. refusing to accept your astral-karma when you pass over, give the 'masters' the finger when they're trying to "teach" you about the law and that you would have to return to Earth in order to pay it off. Don't accept the rule, refuse to be part of the system and that's all there is to it.

The tyranny of the Astral & Universe is the same as the tyranny of government.
If everyone simply would refuse, the system could not run because noone would be part of it.


It's really simple yet so complicated due to the brainwashing imposed on people here in the physical and the astral - the Universe is a gigantic error only held together by the automation of it's systems of motion (planets revolving, humans breeding etc.) and by the continuous manipulation of it's creators which are evil (gone insane) who are hoping to keep their system afloat yet a few more years.
So that will end eventually and that's what the "End of Time" is about - as literal as it can be, the end of this hellhole.

The Universe & The astral dimensions that were created by the insanes are only a minute part of existence, like a putrid branch of the tree of creation. That branch must be cut off and wither and die before it consumes everything.




peace