Evil Marriages???

[James S]

When I married my new wife, my ex was convinced that she was the devil incarnate. Would that be an evil marriage?

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James.

[Lighthouse]

James...

Definitely!!

K

[Taalnar]

I wouldn't call it evil, but I think it should be a separate from the Marriage Act (applicable where you live).  Perhaps they could have a Gay Marriage Act instead of having to change the whole definition of the Marriage Act.

Do that and you don't have to worry about the whole homo, hetero thing.  Since its all kept separate and more people would be happy.

I was very surprised actually to hear Massechusets being the first state in the US to do it being bible belt heartland and all.  I was thinking maybe Texas? j/k

[Sentential]

lol.... I figured this sorta topic would be brought up. Seeing that Im in an enlightened forum, Ill will share my true feelings.

Homosexuality is a desease <no seriously>. From what my guide tells me and what Ive seen, they have no control over it.

It happens at birth when the soul is awakened. Sometimes with many things, mistakes happen. A male / female genered soul is put into the wrong body.

It is by no means evil. If anything we should show our condolences that they have such a horrible and sad disease. I honestally think they should have gay marriages. From what my guide tells me, there is nothing wrong with it. Marriage's primary goal is to create soulmates. If its between two homos, so be it, in death it wont matter. You wont see me losing sleep over it.

Our concern should lie with children and not with this BS. Ive seen soo many of my friends who are quite talented individuals ruin their lives because they lack guidence. Lets fix that problem first.

Plus... Ive seen the faces of pure evil b4. It wasnt gay lol

[Sentential]

You are right... disease may be too harsh of a word. Still... I dunno what to say. I dont sense any malace from gay marriage. There are *plenty* of things that I am far more worried about than that.

BTW.... like the Catholic's have a right to call gay's evil.. lol. Thats the perfect example of "The pot calling the kettle, black". Once their get their preists in order.. then they can talk[^]

[Moonburn33]

Taalnar-  the supreme courts (massachusetts and federal) are of the opinion that separate has never meant or been equal.  that is why there isn't a separate statute concerning homosexual couples.

Sentential- homosexuality was considered a disease at one time.  it took the psychological community until the 1980's to amend their list of mental illnesses to remove homosexuality from that list.  in order for it to be considered a disease it would have to exhibit a maladaptive quality- which is clearly not the case.

[Sentential]

Ah... but it does have a life long effect that *is* dehibilating. They will never have children that are of their own. From a mental standpoint its almost like being steril in both body and soul. Thats why I consider it a disease <still too strong of a word>

However by no means is it wrong or shameful. I think they should join society like everyone else.

[holy reality]

but there are too many children on this planet, widespread of acceptance of homosexuality might actually help save the world if you think about it.....

besides, not everyone wants to have kids, and gay peopel can adopt unwanted kids, which helps the world too, you know, throw a kid in a dumpster? Well... you could just give him to someone who would be more than willing to lovingly take care of him.

(this doesn't mean i'm anti-abortion but I do prefer adoption)

and separate but equal is stupid, it's a way of us saying that our "marriage" is still superior to yours, it creates "us" and "THEM" and it pits the uses and thems against each other.

Imagine how it would feel to be in love with someone and you konw, you believe in marriage due to the way you were raised, and you want nothing more than to declare your undying love with this person by marrying him/her but society not only says "no" they say "THAT'S WRONG, THAT'S EVIL, IT RUINS THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE" your loving relationship RUINS the sanctity of marriage, you can't marry, we don't want anything to do with you at all, but you can have civil unions

that is hurtful, and wrong, and stupid, and intolerant.

[Sentential]

Thats a very good point. Personally I think they are too scared to break a tradition, or admit that marriage and spirituality as a whole is dying off

[Moonburn33]

so do you still think that it's a disease sentential?

[Sentential]

Let me re-phrase, my guide has given me a more sutible term. He suggests that I use "mutation" instead of disease to get my point across.
The way I vew it is that it is a unusual attribute or symptom that has *definable* effects and is widespread within a population, that does *not* normally show such traits.

I also consider psionic ability a mutation

Personally I think homosexuality as a sad mishap where the soul's gender is mixed up upon birth, or by subconscious choice. I dont think its anything someone can control, like psionic abilities. You either have em or you dont. There is no real middle ground.

But idk... pay no attention to me. I know so little.

Souls lack gender as a whole, so it could be technically be perfectally normal under certian circumstances. It all depends on how people are incarnated.

Everything has its purpose in life. Homosexual or not, we all are here to help each other. Calling someone "evil" on the basis of sexuality is absurd.

Ive seen evil.... pure evil has no gender or sexuality.

[Moonburn33]

animals as a kingdom of nature engage in homosexual activitities.  even if they didn't- i still wouldn't have a problem with this issue.  which brings me to the point i wanted to make.  We evolve, as a species, by mutation it's how everything developed- which is why i don't think that it's a "sad mishap".  homosexuality has been with us for thousands of years- i think that this mutation is an advantageous trait or, at the very least, one that does not endanger the humans with the trait.  if it did it wouldn't have been passed on.

[Sentential]

quote:i think that this mutation is an advantageous trait or, at the very least, one that does not endanger the humans with the trait. if it did it wouldn't have been passed on.

hmmmm... I dunno. I dont see to get the feeling that my guide neccesarly aproves of it. They understand that sometime people can get confused.

Im not sure why homosexuality is heavily present in Humans... but I do find that odd. The animal kingdom has always been a good represenitive of ideal conditions.

But I really dont know. I think pplz should live out their lives to the best of their ability. IMO if you genuinely want to help mankind as a whole, reguarldess of your positions, you are "good" in my eyes.

[Moonburn33]

you should ask your guide to explain itself better- that way you can gain better perspective on the situation and gain a fuller understanding of where your guide is coming from

[Sentential]

I appologise. My connection to him is weak to protect me. I usually get images or phrases. Im in the process of listening harder

[Taalnar]

Hey guys I just realized something stupid in what I said.  I said that there should be a separate Gay Marriage Act.  I actually think this should be instituted immediately otherwise it could be said that there are no happy marriages.

Sorry that was cheap...[]

[Sentential]

I honestally dont know. I have enough of my own problems right now lol. If my guide werent so damned cryptic or apprehensive, I would say more. But I cannot get a decent comment out of him.

It's trying to pull the good ole "I dunno bro, its your damn problem, not mine. Im not getting involved"[xx(]

[kiauma]

Pardon me for saying so Sentential, but it sounds to me like you are struggling to hear the answers from your guide.

"Homosexuality is a desease <no seriously>. From what my guide tells me and what Ive seen, they have no control over it.

It happens at birth when the soul is awakened. Sometimes with many things, mistakes happen. A male / female genered soul is put into the wrong body."

If you think about it, what you are saying here is that Divinity makes mistakes.  Do you really believe that Divinity makes mistakes?  Don't you think it is more likely that there is some higher purpose to these "mistakes"?

Sexuality, for whatever else it is, brings people together.  Difference tends to keep people apart, at least until they can get over their fears and learn to look past or even appreciate difference.  Put these together, and there is the potential for a lot of learning there.

Perhaps homosexuality is "mutated" into the spirit, but 'good' and 'bad' are highly subjective to the individual.

[Sentential]

quote:that Divinity makes mistakes. Do you really believe that Divinity makes mistakes?

Absolutly..... with free will nothing is ever perfect. This is the sacrifice they were willing to make for us to be free. Naturally they abhor from openly admiting this...

[kiauma]

With free will, we are always defining ourselves in perfect precision.  Whatever we think and do - we are.

[Sentential]

Very true. Personally I feel its all about choices,or perhaps not. But all that really matters is if you are *truly* happy. If so, then all the merrier.

[kiauma]

Well, yes and no.

Happiness is a good guide, but a mighty poor destination.

Relating back to the topic, my wife believes in freely expressing all emotion, no matter the consequences of those around her.  For years I told her "I have a right to be happy", while she countered that she had "A right to be angry".

Our final compromise was that I would accept her occasional tirades, if she could accept that I would never take them seriously.  She did not like that.  That was 8 years ago, and she still does not like it - and we are happy.  []

[Sentential]

I dunno... it all depends. There is a time for everything. I just think it is appaling how organized religion has effectively dissolved now.

Too many hipocrites and liars seeking to fuful their own adgenda. Especially since they have had no contact with some of the things the pplz on the forum have seen.

In my opinion.... How DARE they accuse one's salvation. Especially since they <most likely> havent experienced any angelic presense of any sorts.

If they did they would be far more understanding. Narrow minded people will be the death of this world.

[boydster]

It appears to me that after a soul has had a long string of embodiments as one gender, that they sometimes have a hard time switching over to the other gender ID for the next embodiment.

I don't think it's a mistake by the Divinity or anyone. In fact, the soul has agreed to inhabit a body of a different gender for the sake of soul growth opportuniities. It seems to be a matter of difficulties with changing ones habits and passions and preferences once you're in the game again that's happening.

I think that some souls probably choose homosexuality in order to experience the humbling effect of being a social victim. It's a legitimate need by some souls for long term growth. For others though, it probably is not the game plan they started out with. Just like most people don't plan to cheat on their marriage--passion and desire, unchecked, become the rule.

Homosexual sex appears to me to be kind of like pushing the positive ends of two magnets together instead of a positive and a negative. There is a repulsion effect which is overcome by the internal passions of those involved and a thrill is definitely experienced. In the long term though, I think it messes up the energy fields of those involved and they suffer in a number of debilitating ways.

It appears to be an extraordinarily difficult way to live. My heart goes out to those souls who are in pain from this situation.

[boydster]

quote:Originally posted by runlola




boydster: I like what you said a lot!

Hey Runlola,

I love that scene at the end where Lola screams in the casino and makes the roulette wheel work for her!!