Face on Mars?

[SpectralDragon]

looking at the two pictures closely, I don't see how those could be the same mountain. That extremely huge indent in the second picture would have definitely had to have shown up as something a lot larger than just that mere eye. Course I am not an expert at that stuff so I could be wrong.

[The AlphaOmega]

People, there is no face on Mars, and YES... IT IS A PROVEN FACT!  I kinda think that the people at NASA are much more equiped and intelligent then us "theory makers" are on this matter.  And that answer is really quite simple.  It was a land mark created by Mars' environment and we happened to take a picture of it when it looked like a face.  Since then (years later) we have taken more pictures of the face and it looks nothing like it did.  The answer... think of it as something like a sand dune.  It was shaped, quite by chance, into what we saw, and the winds and storms of Mars have since shown that it is now simply blowing away.  Mystery solved!  Forgive my cynicism, but if you think otherwise, you are simply and indisputably wrong, despite all theories!

[SpectralDragon]

quote:Originally posted by The AlphaOmega

People, there is no face on Mars, and YES... IT IS A PROVEN FACT!  I kinda think that the people at NASA are much more equiped and intelligent then us "theory makers" are on this matter.  And that answer is really quite simple.  It was a land mark created by Mars' environment and we happened to take a picture of it when it looked like a face.  Since then (years later) we have taken more pictures of the face and it looks nothing like it did.  The answer... think of it as something like a sand dune.  It was shaped, quite by chance, into what we saw, and the winds and storms of Mars have since shown that it is now simply blowing away.  Mystery solved!  Forgive my cynicism, but if you think otherwise, you are simply and indisputably wrong, despite all theories!

But..it's tweeking my mind in wierd ways..[}:)]

It's just a mystery to people and intersting to discuss. Think on it that way and the discussion becomes light hearted[]

[volcomstone]

maybe my mind is poisoned by pseudo-science

but what about the "pyramids" and the "inca" town?
I've seen the geometrical relationships of the distances between the various pyramids, and also the actual size of the pyramids are part of the same golden number as that of the cheops.

not to mention the other nefertiti (sp?) face and the dolphin

or the "proof" nasa has that says 10,000 years ago mars was wet, and the cydonia face is placed on beautifull waterfront property,  much like the statue of liberty.

I've also heard (although from dubious sources) one of the mooons of mars has mass inconsistancies, and spectral imaging has "determined the presence of large cubic like regions of empty space inside the moons of mars"

I've also heard that the moon in question has also disapeared.

misinformation on the average temperature and ambient Co2 and O2 levels on the surface

Nasa claims average temperatures at aabout -120 degrees centigrade at night and about 150 degrees centigrade during the day

JPL has been quoted at -30 night and about 20-40 day.

apparently all of the images of the mars surface is also doctored, the sky on mars is blue, not red.  the rocks are red.  there ARE dust storms of a red colour which could create a redish tint to the atmosphere, but not like how the photo's NASA has been doctoring

also very strange fragments litter the ground, and anyone who wants to spend some time looking at all the frames of all the videotapes of the mars probes will be sure to find them.


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[no_leaf_clover]

quote:Forgive my cynicism, but if you think otherwise, you are simply and indisputably wrong, despite all theories!

Behold the absolutism of today's science! And no, the world is no longer flat!

There is a lot of evidence against the absolute awesomeness of the scientific God NASA in this area, mainly coming from the Pyramids. The face can be argued and ridiculed and made to haul the burden of the argument against NASA just because of how hard it is to tell what the hell it is, but since 1976 I don't believe another photo of the Pyramids on Mars has been released to the public, despite the fact that they are also well-known and so close to the face that they can and have been featured in the same photo (of course the one from 1976). The problem with the Pyramids is that they have clearly defined shapes: pyramids. The odds of such features occuring naturally are virtually impossible unless natural features exist on Mars that we have yet to discover or even speculate about. Think about it.. on Mars there's wind and dust storms, and some extinct volcanos. There were probably streams as well at one point. Try to imagine how any one of those three could create the Pyramids at Cydonia. Or even a combination of them. Remember that the Pyramids are found only on that part of Mars (unless there are more that we haven't found/been shown), which is coincidentally the exact same area that the mysterious Face is situated.

You'd think NASA would be intrigued, and snap a few more pictures of the Pyramids as they did of the Face. Of course, they *know* what the Face is, so they take plenty of pictures just to show people what it's not: an artificial structure. Yet the more mysterious Pyramids that NASA would be hard pressed to explain are ignored.

NASA is as slippery as the government. What's even the difference? I saw a documentary on the Kecksberg Incident recently and when NASA was threatened with a law suit on information it was withholding, it broke its long-standing silence on the issue but simply regurgitated some complaints that were sent to it and added some bits of information that simply proved that it had information it was still withholding, or rather, 'may or may not be withholding'. ... The military was also involved in the incident as had been long expected but viciously argued against by some residents, but now even the government itself has fessed up to at least military involvement in a half-butted report. NASA is for all intents and purposes the space tech branch of the government and by that I for one can't take what it says as necessarily accurate information.

Europe has some nice space programs, though, and they seem a whole lot more open.

[James S]

I recently saw some image comparisons of the face on mars that gave me a giggle. There's been a few times when I've looked at something in the distance without my glasses and think its one thing, then I put my glasses on and realise its something completely different.

As the imaging technology used to look at this formation on Mars has improved, the less like a face it looks.

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James.

[Eric g]

quote:Originally posted by The AlphaOmega

People, there is no face on Mars, and YES... IT IS A PROVEN FACT! .......Mystery solved!  Forgive my cynicism, but if you think otherwise, you are simply and indisputably wrong, despite all theories!

Unless you are "All who is" I won't take your word for it .. [][][]

[The AlphaOmega]

Unless I am "all who is"?  Give me a break.  There is a line between skepticism and ignorance.  Because I'm not God you won't believe the facts that prove the face on Mars is nothing more then a natural formation?  Don't you think your doubts are unreasonable?  Don't take my word for it if it satisfies you, but you should listen to the professionals that have far greater technology and understanding concerning such matters, such as, oh I dont know... NASA.  You think they're hiding some new info on martian life that the public just wouldn't be able to cope with?  This isn't the CIA we're talking about here.  The necessity for NASA has been a large issue for our government since it was first started.  Hiding something as important as the possible existence of other lifeforms would only hurt NASA.  They are scientists, not theologians, and it's the facts that they are concerned with.  Once the face was first discovered it was very necissary to scrutinize all possibilities.  And years later when new pictures of the formation were taken it became quite clear that it was nothing but a large natural formation that is noticably eroding.  The purpose of being open minded is to find the truth.  This study has been resolved and isn't anything to be further discussed... it's already been proven.  What is so difficult about accepting the truth about this?  Why do so many of you want so badly for it to be an actual monument built by aliens?  It's not, plain and simple, and all your theories will never prove the opposite of what has already been proven.  Don't be so foolish, it's right in front of you.

[LordoftheBunnies]

I'm interested in seeing other rock formations on Mars that could look like something else, then comparing then to the face formation.

[Eric g]

quote:Originally posted by The AlphaOmega

Unless I am "all who is"?  Give me a break.  There is a line between skepticism and ignorance.  Because I'm not God you won't believe the facts that prove the face on Mars is nothing more then a natural formation?  Don't you think your doubts are unreasonable?  Don't take my word for it if it satisfies you, but you should listen to the professionals that have far greater technology and understanding concerning such matters, such as, oh I dont know... NASA.  You think they're hiding some new info on martian life that the public just wouldn't be able to cope with?  This isn't the CIA we're talking about here.  The necessity for NASA has been a large issue for our government since it was first started.  Hiding something as important as the possible existence of other lifeforms would only hurt NASA.  They are scientists, not theologians, and it's the facts that they are concerned with.  Once the face was first discovered it was very necissary to scrutinize all possibilities.  And years later when new pictures of the formation were taken it became quite clear that it was nothing but a large natural formation that is noticably eroding.  The purpose of being open minded is to find the truth.  This study has been resolved and isn't anything to be further discussed... it's already been proven.  What is so difficult about accepting the truth about this?  Why do so many of you want so badly for it to be an actual monument built by aliens?  It's not, plain and simple, and all your theories will never prove the opposite of what has already been proven.  Don't be so foolish, it's right in front of you.

If you want to swallow what a government agency is willing to spoonfeed you be my guest, just let me be foolish OK? []

[Mick]

quote:Originally posted by LordoftheBunnies

I'm interested in seeing other rock formations on Mars that could look like something else, then comparing then to the face formation.

http://www.nmia.com/~sphinx/mars_face.html is one amongst many starting places
There is at least one image of the pyramids there plus numerous links.

The original images were at a 10 times lower resolution than the MGS versions. I did have the raw original face image but it is not to hand at present, it was hard to see any detail at all what with the data dropouts and ISTR it was the image processing that extrapolated it into the face image. Interestingly there are some matches with current images so the software did stay true to some original data.

[Michael_E]

An explaination for the face on mars theory:
http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/fcs_face_on_mars/index.html