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Title: Mozilla / Firefox update time...
Post by: Aileron on August 13, 2004, 13:51:17
thanx for the info, we had switched only a week ago. The only prob is that we have to manually use our at&t connection which directs us automatically to IE but then we can click on the mozilla/firefox to use the browser.
Dont know if you know much about that or not, thought Id put it in though.
Title: Mozilla / Firefox update time...
Post by: Nagual on August 15, 2004, 12:20:01
Not sure if it would work but... you could try to rename IEXPLORE.EXE to  IEXPLORE.BAK and create a shortcut to Mozilla and rename it to IEXPLORE.EXE, and place it where IEXPLORE.BAK is.
Title: Mozilla / Firefox update time...
Post by: Aileron on August 15, 2004, 12:25:16
thanks Ill try it.
Title: Mozilla / Firefox update time...
Post by: Kazbadan on August 18, 2004, 10:05:07
Do you work with mozilla? Do you think that it is better than i.e.? why?

what kind of problems can it cause (the mozilla) when compared to i.e.?


thanks
Title: Mozilla / Firefox update time...
Post by: Nagual on August 19, 2004, 06:52:53
Mainly, Mozilla is not Microsoft.  Meaning it's open, a lot more faster maintained, you can trust it, it does not allow the whole world to execute/install programs, to spy on you without telling you; it follows the W3C standards; poppup-blocker; tabbed-browsing; annyoing javascripts disabled; etc...

Of course, Mozilla is not perfect; but IE is a piece of junk!
Title: Mozilla / Firefox update time...
Post by: Rastus on August 19, 2004, 07:00:39
IE is Inevitable.  Mostly because sites are written in IE-Java(which isn't really Java, just M$ version of something) ala' IIS.  I have Sun Java installed on this machine (joys of HP printer management) and nothing works right now.  And of course if your server side code is bad (pretty much 3-5 bad pages a day on foxnews.com, and every day on hotmail.com), you get truly unpredictable errors.

Sadly I dumped Mozilla years ago because it wouldn't function on the pages we needed here at work.  And of course you can't disable IE in windows(you can, but you have to deal with the issues).

So can I re-install Mozilla now and see if it displays M$ sites right?
Title: Mozilla / Firefox update time...
Post by: Nagual on August 20, 2004, 05:38:21
Sure, try it!  Not much to lose [|)]
You can keep both browsers if you really need.

The problem about IE-only websites is true and annoying; but it should/will change soon (seeing how many organizations like Dept of Homeland Security and other security agencies advised people to switch away from IE)...
Title: Mozilla / Firefox update time...
Post by: Kazbadan on August 20, 2004, 05:56:26
So, if i cannot uninstall IE, i must have both (mozilla and ie) in my pc at same time. Will i have any problem with that? Can i use at my will, ie and mozilla (changing any time i want from program to program)?

What kind of problems can mozilla give me?
Title: Mozilla / Firefox update time...
Post by: shadowdancer on August 20, 2004, 06:53:46
Namaste,
    so the Dept. of Homeland Insecurity was recommending that surfers switch away from microsoft internet explorer to another browser?  what was their reasoning for this?  Did you say that Mozilla does not allow pop-up downloads and is not compatabile with spyware programs like backweb?  trying to understand...  namaste
Title: Mozilla / Firefox update time...
Post by: Nagual on August 23, 2004, 00:38:40
Yes, you can keep both; I have both (even if I never use IE).

Why they advised to switch away from IE?  Read the following articles:
http://www.informationweek.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=22105117
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/local/ny-biz-ie0629,0,846452,print.story?coll=sfla-business-front
http://www.crt.net.au/etopics/browserwars.htm

Basicaly, it's just another security bug (among the too many) that prompted them to give such advisory.

Mosilla can block (if you want to) unwanted (unasked) windows popups/resizing/moving/raising-lowering, context-menus blocking, etc...  It has no active-X or whatever junk turned on by default on IE.  So, no, it has no spyware like Claria/Gator/Cydoor/etc...

Apparently, backweb is a little different; it does not seem to need to use the browser:
http://www.pestpatrol.com/PestInfo/B/Backweb.asp

And, if you do not already, use adware or spybot to clean your pcs...
Title: Mozilla / Firefox update time...
Post by: Nagual on August 23, 2004, 00:43:29
Just wanted to add that you will need IE if you want to use Ms Web-Update site...  Personaly, I download the patches by hand (so I can burn to a CD and re-apply them anytime I want).

Also, you don't have to switch to Mozilla; there are other good browsers; some free, some not.  Like Opera by example.

Title: Mozilla / Firefox update time...
Post by: Nagual on August 11, 2004, 13:31:11
For those who missed the news, you should update to fix multiple flaws in the libpng library (that allows remote execution)...

http://www.mozilla.org/