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Everlasting

Sweden recently voted in a nationalist party into parliament, it seems to be a trend in Europe now . People are getting tired of the problems a multicultural society brings. Especially the rising crimes and demands from religious and ethnic groups. 
Priests of hippocratic love talk of peace and Christ, Power is their only goal. Now they all shall die.

personalreality

they want to get rid of the EU
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CFTraveler

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I have observed a nationalism-as-a-good-thing as a theme behind the scenes in various TV shows in the US- subtle programming, if you ask me.  I don't know about other countries, but it wouldn't surprise me-the best way to maintain control or conquer, is to divide.  Has always worked, why not now?

Everlasting

Well The globalists actually dispises nationalism since it unites people within the nation states. They try to break up countries with mass immigration,feminism etc divide and conquer as you say.  The people of the world can  never be one big happy family and we can never agree with one and other because of different values, the global communist utopia will and can never materialize.
Priests of hippocratic love talk of peace and Christ, Power is their only goal. Now they all shall die.

CFTraveler

What global communist utopia?  I'm talking about mutual respect, something that is vastly different.

Stillwater

Quotebut it wouldn't surprise me-the best way to maintain control or conquer, is to divide

It is sort of funny, since paranoid NWO exposers are always saying that it is the rise of globalism and unified society that will bring the illuminati overlords into full power. So people have to be afraid of unity and division, lol?
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

personalreality

i don't disagree stillwater, but as an opposing point, NWO globalism is about turning the whole world into one homogeneous, brain dead slave state.  if we had some kind of unification by, as CFT says, mutual respect, that could be globalization that's focused on the needs of the entire earth and all it's life.

this is what wiki says,

Globalism can have at least two different and opposing meanings. One meaning is the attitude or policy of placing the interests of the entire world above those of individual nations.[1] Another is viewing the entire world as a proper sphere for one nation to project political influence.[2]

division is for 'thinning the herds' as it were.  the globalization culminates once there are fewer people.

if we had that mutual respect thing, then we would naturally thin our numbers and unite under general caring of others over ourselves.  that's just kind of where mutual respect leads, i think. 
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Stillwater

I don't know. Again, it all depends on what you deem mutual respect to be. The sort of mutual respect you are speaking of is one that tends to be collectivist, and think about the needs of the whole, in spite of regional and cultural separations. The type of mutual respect that I would think would be more commonplace though, would be more a more a "live and let live" sort of attitude, that tolerates cultural discrepancies and boundaries, without the individual units striving to think of themselves as members of a team.

Look at the attitudes that China and the U.S. seem to have about one another, for the last 70 years- each recognizes the strength of the other, and realizes that direct conflict would be disasterous. None the less, each practices imperialist encroachments on the interests of the other (Vietnam, Korea, Machuria). Both seem to think that the other would sieze what is theirs given the chance, and fear for the loss of their own ways of life. China and the U.S., at least on the surface are each vying to get their people more wealth and standard of life. As nation-states, they each view the other as a competitor above all else.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

personalreality

Quote from: Stillwater on September 23, 2010, 00:11:06
I don't know. Again, it all depends on what you deem mutual respect to be. The sort of mutual respect you are speaking of is one that tends to be collectivist, and think about the needs of the whole, in spite of regional and cultural separations. The type of mutual respect that I would think would be more commonplace though, would be more a more a "live and let live" sort of attitude, that tolerates cultural discrepancies and boundaries, without the individual units striving to think of themselves as members of a team.

thats what i'm talking about.  i'm just also proposing that with that kind of mentality (live and let live), a common regard for existence here will also develop.  particularly a regard for the existence of others.
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Danevang

Quote from: Everlasting on September 22, 2010, 10:36:19
Sweden recently voted in a nationalist party into parliament, it seems to be a trend in Europe now . People are getting tired of the problems a multicultural society brings. Especially the rising crimes and demands from religious and ethnic groups. 

Don't forget all of the votes out of sympathy.
My bf voted for them. Might do the same in 4 years! If I still live here at that time. I really hate Sweden, a lot, but my friends here are awesome.

Everlasting

Quote from: Danevang on November 14, 2010, 23:28:35
Don't forget all of the votes out of sympathy.
My bf voted for them. Might do the same in 4 years! If I still live here at that time. I really hate Sweden, a lot, but my friends here are awesome.
Well you should hate the politicians who commited and commits treason, they are running the country into the ground.
Priests of hippocratic love talk of peace and Christ, Power is their only goal. Now they all shall die.

Danevang

^
Perhaps so. But aren't the swedish people in general so extremely left-winged? Like, it's unbelievable. If you aren't a nearly communist Jan Helin-kinda guy and ultra feministic, you're no good. And if you're just the least bit critical when it comes to Swedens "open arms and the more the merrier" immigration policy, you're a racist. The lines are so harsh and so many, that it's hard to not step over them. But yeah. Don't go blaming politicians for doing anything with your country, you get to decide what it means to you. If I was to cast any blame, go blame the media. Especially Jan Helin...he and Reinfeldt are ranked high on my facepalm/just shut up already-list. And to me, nationalism on the rise is not such a bad thing. Love for my own country does not mean that I hate every other country.

Everlasting

Yes media is near communist and they attack anyone that speaks out, and many politicians clearly are scared of being called racists by the media so they just shut up.  SD are the only ones that have balls it seems.
Priests of hippocratic love talk of peace and Christ, Power is their only goal. Now they all shall die.