Recently a few songs are coming out into mainstream music that make me wonder whether society is beginning to 'wake-up"
Linkin Park - What I've done
Matchbox 20 - How Far We've Come
Pink - Dear Mr President
John Mayer - Waiting on the World to Change
Immortal Technique has a few as well.
Has anyone got any more?
-AM
Interesting
Welcome to the universe - 30 seconds to mars
R-Evolve- 30 seconds to mars
End Of The Beginning- 30 seconds to mars
I love this band. Thier music makes me feel spiritualy stronger too.
-Andrew
Dudley Perkins (Declaime) - Let Love Light The Way
...and a whole bunch of other Dudley songs.
This is a good thread. I'm not sure about the "recent" though.
'All you need is love' by The Beatles surely suits this discussion. Around 50 years old.
Likewise 'Imagine' by John Lennon. 40-odd years?
And a big contender must be 'Strange Phenomena' by Kate Bush. 30 years ago.
All mainstream, all commercially-accepted. And yes, I'm showing my age.
To slightly go off on a tangent, I think films (movies for all you Americans) are more accepting these days. We do still get the usual rubbish out there (voilence, egotistical nonsense), however there are some good 'spiritual/afterlife' films around too. I particularly like 'What Dreams May Come', 'Dragonfly' and 'Sixth Sense'. Oh, and 'The Others'. Damn, all American!! :-D I normally pride myself on only watching British films... :-P
Sarah
Could you recommend any films? I love spiritual movies. What Dreams May Come was amazing. :D
Hi Fade
My fave film is 'Twelve Monkeys'. 'Sixth Sense' is great too. I'm sure you'd love them both.
I've just ordered 'Vanilla Sky' as I hear it's about lucid dreaming.
'Dragonfly' is of the genre of 'What Dreams' so that should go on your list too...!
Sarah
Smashmouth - Walking on the Sun.
Switchfoot - Meant to Live for so much more
Tupac - Changes
I didn't mean entirely recently, it was just those songs that brought it to my attention I suppose. It was just more well it's in pop culture again so at least the kids are singing along to something other than relationships and how much bling they wear.
I think you can see it in music because music is art. Art requires someone to express themself honestly, that's really the main point. With boundries there can be no creativity.
Good to see some songs for me to look up! Thanks a lot guys! :-)
-AM
I shall check those out ~!
Thanks Sarah :-D
-Andrew
Speaking of movies, the whole stars wars series has subtle hints at religion and society. The matrix as well. I, robot questions the nature of the soul and what it truly means to be alive.
None of these are done in a literal sense, but if you've ever done any type of film analysis before you might stare at whats really behind the story line. "So whats the moral of the story?". I prefer the movies with the most depth personally. Mr Hollands Opus is a good one. Tuesdays with Morrie. Remember the Titans. Contact.
-AM
Disney is a pretty good advocate for enlightenment in that the overall theme of Disney would appear to be Imagination. You can see the message in most if not all their movies, shows, and commercials. I'm not sure if anyone here has been to Disney World, but imagination appears to be their main theme. The message is subtle and subliminal in some areas, and strongly apparent in others. Imagination is mostly apparent at Epcot as they stress using imagination in most of their rides and throughout the park. The message on imagination at Epcot is that you can do, be, and create anything you want by using your imagination. Disney World is a good place for exploring and expanding your mind as well as sparking and increasing your imagination; not only for young children but for adults as well. I believe Disney World can be as educational as it is entertaining.
I read somewhere in 'Ren and Stimpy' cartoons they don't follow ordinary fashion of life. In one episode stimpy might die and then be alive in the next. In some cases they are in a trailor and in other in a house. It changes every episode. The idea was to errode cultural conditioning of what's considered to be normal in life.
-AM
Yeah I especially liked Tuesdays with Morrie and the Matrix. After watching the matrix I noticed a couple hints in it. Afterwards I kept watching it and pointing out those subtle hints of religion in it. :-) Its kind of hard not to now once I started noticing things like that in movies.
The same goes greatly for songs. Sometimes I wonder if i look too deeply in them. :-D
-Andrew
I don't think you can ever look too deeply. Don't stop :-) !
-AM
ha-ha Thanks I wont stop :-)
Oh heres another song
Set this world ablaze -Killsitch Engage
its a heavy song but the lyrics remind me of the awakening
-Andrew
Quote from: kailaurius on October 04, 2007, 12:05:06
Disney is a pretty good advocate for enlightenment in that the overall theme of Disney would appear to be Imagination. You can see the message in most if not all their movies, shows, and commercials. I'm not sure if anyone here has been to Disney World, but imagination appears to be their main theme. The message is subtle and subliminal in some areas, and strongly apparent in others. Imagination is mostly apparent at Epcot as they stress using imagination in most of their rides and throughout the park. The message on imagination at Epcot is that you can do, be, and create anything you want by using your imagination. Disney World is a good place for exploring and expanding your mind as well as sparking and increasing your imagination; not only for young children but for adults as well. I believe Disney World can be as educational as it is entertaining.
Hello Kailaurius ,
I am sorry to brake the happy talk, but apparently Disney is not above influencing children in a subliminal way. If one has little children, it would be the best to play all the Disney videos in slow motion and listen very carefull to all the background words and sounds. Here is a video about Disney using subliminal messages. The guy is pretty forceful, but he seems to know what he is talking about and it is appalling.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8004529225087428176
Living end - wake up
-AM
Sorry Melody...I clicked the link and could only stomach the first 2 minutes before closing the window. Just not my thing. All he did was talk about how devil worship and satanism is mainstream everywhere you look. He didn't give any examples within the 2 minutes that I watched. The video was 8 minutes long. But all I could do was roll my eyes at him.
I didn't find him convincing, I found him a bit scary in his grip on his beliefs and religion and what he sees all around him as threatening that. I just don't 'do' conspiracy theories.
However, as for songs and stuff. I do agree with AM. I've noticed a lot of songs my teenage daughter listens to are much more ... inspirational than the stuff from my generation (barring a minority of songs). But Sarah makes a great point. Maybe it's not that society is awakening now, but that there are songs/movies/stuff available in each generation to help inspire and motivate. It's just an issue of what you gravitate towards.
Good stuff!
He does give examples in the video. You can always bring the indicator forward to the exaples.
Essentially, anything with a star in it's logo is Satanic?
God help the USA, then. It has 50 stars on it's flag!
The term 'satanic' or anything associated with hell or the devil has evloved in modern culture. What it really means now is that which separates man or causes man to act against his own. I can't see members of the media or government entering the devils chamber and discussing the next order of business to take over the world.
Does what is created forever expand, or is it kept at a certain quantified amount by some anti-creator? Evil is a human conception. There is no devil or hell.
-AM
Quote from: Awakened_Mind on October 06, 2007, 02:49:45
I can't see members of the media or government entering the devils chamber and discussing the next order of business to take over the world.
Agreed. It's a bit (gross understatement) far fetched to think that most people who are 'in power' are satanists, luciferians, etc etc.
Here are some disney's pictures with subliminal messages.
http://bljestavilo.blog.hr/2007/04/1622450355/hipnoza-seksom.html
Some of the greatest cartoons in the world started out in very perverse ways :-P
http://www.techamok.com/?pid=3379
some more subliminal pictures
http://misakvecernji.blog.hr/
2nd and 3rd post.
One explanation why marketers use sex in subliminal messages is because they want to connect you enjoyable feelings with their product. But that doesn't explain why its used in cartoons or on money.
They could just be joking around while they were drawing it. It is pretty funny :-)
How many symbols exist that are not satanic? Let's see- a triangle means a pyramid, and somehow satanic, a 'rosicrucian cross' is for some reason satanic, a five-pointed star according to them is satanic, a six-pointed star is also occult therefore satanic.... An eye is satanic, a nose can look like a triangle so it must be satanic, a lip can be red so it can be sexual therefore satanic, the only symbol I can think of is the square, but if you turn it into a rectangle then it can be a 'door', and therefore satanic. Let's see, what's left? So basically a company that wishes to use a logo can only use a square (or is is satanic if you turn it on it's side and looks like a diamond?)
How about symbols of nature? Is nature satanic? Well, we know goats or cats are no-nos, trees (oops, possibly kabbalistic, hmm... well, we know that stars and moons are no-nos, and the sun may be taken as egyptian, therefore satanic in his logic- well, I suppose that there may be animals that are not satanic- doggies? Or are they too close to 'wolves'? Well, so much for nature.... Men must be ok as long as their pinkies are not up... BTW, I suppose that anyone in the Victorian era (they drank tea with their pinkies up) were satanic, and so much for miss Manners.... Oh my!
I especially loved how he used the symbol of the woman with a star on her head as a symbol of the other ugly little idol that looked nothing like her and 'subliminally' put it next to the starbucks symbol so that we get programmed that women with crowns must be satanic- a little male chauvinism there.... He learned fast with the subliminal thing there, didn't he?
:roll: :-P
SLIPKNOT - PEOPLE=SH*T :-D
Few movies I've noticed as well recently Al Gores 'An Inconvenient Truth'. This movie caused a lot of controversy because some of the information in it is twisted to fit the idea of the movie. Warming is not necessarily caused by certain things but Al gore steers them that way. One thing there is a consensus on though is that the globe is heating up.
Another movie I haven't seen yet is the '11th hour'.
I think movies on environmental issues definately fit the criteria of 'waking up'. Promoting an increased public understanding.
-AM
Foo Fighter - The Pretender
-AM
The greater number of educational TV channels reflects how our society is awakening.
For the price of basic cable or Satelite, and a used TV, (I get my TV from Good Will, or flea markets) we can recieve National Geographic, History CH, Discovery, TLC, Travel CH, PBS (including BBC specials in the US) and a few more that I'v missed.
The most inspirational to me are several great series about cosmology with amazing super computer generated visualizations to explain the new theories.
The fact that a relativily recent greater interest in educational content for broadcast TV is enough to sustain several networks dedicated to education is an indication of the awakening society.
Quote from: Awakened_Mind on November 15, 2007, 01:42:39
Foo Fighter - The Pretender
-AM
Amazeing song :D
Valhalla -30 seconds to mars is really good. It describes Karma in a way from what I have gotten out of the song.
Schism by Tool
I want none of this by Radiohead
Idioteque by Radiohead
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Few movies I've noticed as well recently Al Gores 'An Inconvenient Truth'. This movie caused a lot of controversy because some of the information in it is twisted to fit the idea of the movie. Warming is not necessarily caused by certain things but Al gore steers them that way. One thing there is a consensus on though is that the globe is heating up.
I know that Al Gore doesn't beleive in or care about global warming because he ignores the single greatest source of Co2 emitions, which is animal livestock! Eating meat is worse for Global Warming than driving a car.
(http://www.ptgustan.com/apr07/goregrills.jpg)
Al Gore is obviously using Global Warming as a manipulation device for his own benifit. What a fraud!
But whether we are causing Global Warming or not, I am totally for reducing Co2 emitions.
hopefully Al Gore is just enviously trying to starve George W. Bush's cash income from the oil industry!
"Al Gore has stated the he "has presented his global warming powerpoint presentation over 1000 times, all over the world". Hmmm, interesting. I wonder how Gore got to these cities throughout the world? Did he ride a horse? Did he walk? Did he ride a bike? No---He flew in a private jumbo jet, and when he arrives with his entourage they all jump from their jet into large, you guessed it, SUV's. In fact, recently it was noted that Gore and his group jumped in their fleet of over-sized SUV's to go to one of these tree-hugger rallies when they only had to travel 500 yards! How much fuel do you think a jumbo jet uses criss crossing continents--more than your Tahoe or Explorer perhaps? Well, for example, a Boeing 767 requires 11,526 gallons of fuel. For longer trips, or for trips on which Al decides to increase his traveling tree-hugger entourage, an A380 may be used. The Airbus A380 is a newer generation that is actually capable of much longer range and greater fuel efficiency. Oh, but there is one slight drawback, this flying behemoth requires a staggering 81,890 gallons of fuel to top off the tanks! This is how big Al rolls around the world spreading his "love the Earth" message. It is so ridiculous it could only happen in America. Al Gore will burn more fuel in a day than the average person will burn in 10 years......
Yet Gore wants us to drive hybrids or walk. Typical Gore. An elitist senator's son who thinks the rules only apply to the commoners, not those in positions of power, like himself."Source: http://miriamsideas.blogspot.com/2006/05/analyzing-al-gore.html
Cavernstoy
I'm listening to that video Melody supplied while I write this.
I can't believe no one brought up the band Angels & Airwaves!
Everything's Magic, By Angels & Airwaves
The Adventure, by Angels & Airwaves
Yeah ok, this guy is getting on my nerves. Sorry Melody. He repeats himself a lot. I bet half of that video is just him repeating himself.
Initially making this thread I had in mind people would mention songs I hadn't heard so I could run off and listen to them. :-)
I'll have to check them out.
-AM
Quote from: Embodied Words on November 20, 2007, 07:02:58
I'm listening to that video Melody supplied while I write this.
I can't believe no one brought up the band Angels & Airwaves!
Everything's Magic, By Angels & Airwaves
The Adventure, by Angels & Airwaves
Yeah ok, this guy is getting on my nerves. Sorry Melody. He repeats himself a lot. I bet half of that video is just him repeating himself.
Oh wow I cant belive I didnt bring that up. Nice one 8-)
Speaking of Angels & Airwaves, I got their new CD yesterday, I-Empire. It is amazing!
I really want to get it! Glad its out now.
Is it as amazeing as the last or even better?
Well, I-Empire is more of a lovey dovey kinda CD. For instance, on the first CD, you remember that song "It Hurts?" You won't find anything like that here. There are maybe 3-4 love songs, two tracks with no lyrics, and the rest are more like... well, you can interpret those however you like.
As for lyrics, as always, AVA does NOT dissapoint. I love their lyrics soo much...
It's not quite as good as the first, IMO, but I think you'll enjoy it if you liked the first. lol, their all I've been listening to it since I got it. ^.^
Very nice! hehe, as soon as I pull together enough Gil I'll have to purchase it. :-D
There is an Australian Hip-hop group called 'Bliss n Eso' That have been coming out with some pretty good lyrics. I thought I'd post them in this thread. Contains explicit language.
"Sea is rising"
1st verse
And all I know is the sun is shining, yet we fight on through the night
while the burgs are melting and the sea is rising I don't know so I ask them why
Yeah, why are they refusing to listen
why are these troops on a mission
and why are they shooting these victims over their view on religion
yeah why do we all search for love like we got cupids addiction
why with politicians you can't tell the truth from the fiction
why do we pollute where were living
why are these youth put at risk
and why is this fool on dominion kept us consumed in this prison
I won't jump through the hoops of this system
nothing stands between you and the pursuit of your vision
I grab a loop of this rhythm it's puts the juice in my pistons
so jump back, react spit in the boots with precision
when I'm cruising with ism' yeah I'm doosing the splif
It's a BNE show grump getting loose was a given
I don't want them to look back when the future was written
and know we killed ourselves with nuclear vision and stupid decisions
excrement I'd rather an asteroid due for collision then know the planet got f****d by the human condition
sing the tune with conviction!
"Bullet and a target"
[Intro: Vusi talking]
I believe that together we can really make a difference
One man cannot make a difference, but if we can partner
if we can have a collective will, and a willingness to make a difference in our nation
We can really do make a difference
[Vocals: Muzi] {Connections Zulu Choir Soloist}
What you have done, is put yourself between a bullet and a target
Wont be long, wont be long...
[Verse 1: Bliss]
All it took was one in a trillion
In a world where they're gunning civilians
Where conspiracies just drop on us like plummeting buildings
Government villains at night, we are renegades who fight
Under a pilgrims plight for a better way of life
See we sail the seas with a sun stained atlas
To escape the day to day mental mundane madness
That consumes us, its true, though my real answer lays
is stepping back to view life's real grand Monet
But crucial issues are lost in this crazy worlds wealth
How can lust for bucks outweigh one baby girl's health?
Through the cyclone we hit the Third World and found heroes
With nothing but still everything, smiling at ground zero
-AM
I agree with Selski that this is nothing new, maybe just a "second wind" of sorts.
I like the old stuff the best, though....
Beatles --
All You Need is Love,
While My Guitar Gently Weeps,
Your Mother Should Know (actually plays on a Zen koan),
A Day in the Life,
I Am the Walrus,
Etc., etc., etc.... the Beatles (and particularly Lennon and Harrison) were all about awakening/enlightenment.
Doors --
Tell All the People,
Break on Through,
basically everything they did...
Pink Floyd --
The whole "Dark Side of the Moon" album? ...
The Wall... etc.
I just got the album "Crack the Skye" by Mastodon and I think a few songs actually revolve around a man who's paraplegic that teaches himself to astrally project in order to be free once again. And these guys are getting great reviews from mainstream sources even - and in a lot of reviews it seems to mention AP, which I think will at least raise some awareness.
Anything by Tool or Riverside