Terror Possibility for August 6th and 9th

[no_leaf_clover]

First of all, let me say first and foremost that I'm no prophet and I'm not making any predictions. I can't foresee the future.

However, I'd like to say to keep an eye pealed on August 9th. I'm not really convinced anything special will happens, but for various reasons I feel the date is much more of a possibility than others in terms of future attacks, and we've been told repeatedly by our intelligence that something may very well happen soon. And they would know.

Fox News: U.S. Terror Attack — 'Ninety Days at Most'
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161962,00.html

I know Fox News is incredibly biased, and follows an agenda unlike any other news source. They may have just put out that article to continue fearmongering the US people, but I actually feel that this article is worth paying attention to. I may be wrong, of course, and it may simply be fearmongering.

But, willy Cheney, along with the CIA, has stated that the next attack on American soil will likely entail a crude nuclear device or other WMD released upon large population centers. In willy Cheney's own words, such an attack is "not a matter of if, but when."

Coincidentally, Cheney is going to be overseeing some excercises this month here in my home state of Virginia, just as he was overseeing the wargames on 9/11 when NORAD and the FAA were too tied up by the military excercises to respond to the national emergency. Because of these excercises, the planes that hit the WTC and Pentagon were not able to have been intercepted.

Sudden Response 05 will take place this August on Fort Monroe and will be carried out as an internal command post exercise. The exercise is intended to train the JTF-CS staff to plan and execute Consequence Management operations in support of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV's response to a nuclear detonation.

Source

For anyone indoctrinated into the events of 9/11, this information should sound quite familiar to you, if not outright eerie.

To add a little more coincidence to these nuclear warnings and August activities, August 6th and 9th are the anniversaries of our nukes being dropped on Japan in WW2. I can already see where the propoganda would be going if something did in fact happen on either date.

From the Northeast Intelligence Network:

Military Expert & Analyst Advances Theory: How about an American Hiroshima which is a repeat, an eye for an eye of the events of exactly sixty years ago this August 6th and 9th? Is it plausible? I believe so.

Source

Again, I'm no prophet and I'm not making any predictions. But just for the sake of giving a friendly "head's up," keep an eye pealed this month, especially if you live in a big city, etc.

I will make one prediction, however:

If these attacks do occur, they will not be the work of Bin Laden. Bin Laden has made his stance on nuclear weapons clear in the past, and his position is that if they are not used in the Mid-East, they will not be used on us in return. He does not follow the 'eye for an eye' policy on behalf of other countries, ie, Japan. This is all in the way of fearmongering US citizens to further submitting their will for more wars, more death, more money and power to their own government.

Edit: If this happens, you can also expect an almost immediate war with Iran.

Hopefully nothing will happen. Best of luck to those in cities on in the East.

[Andali27]

interesting read.  someone's done their homework.

here's another point I'd like to make, to date, the main terrorist attacks have always been by different means.  First it was airline in 9/11 and then tube trains in London.  If it happens again, it would most likely be from a different angle.  Crowded shopping complex?  Football grand final?  All security is increased in those areas that have been hit in other countries so the bombers will try somewhere else entirely.

[Logic]

Werent we all supposed to die in the Cold War too?

[no_leaf_clover]

Werent we all supposed to die in the Cold War too?

Yes, but it seems that that was fearmongering. This current threat could be fearmongering too. That's the thing.

During the Cold War, school children were taught to crouch under their desks in case of a nuclear disaster. Why? They would die soon enough, regardless of where they hid, as long as they were close enough to be burned. And if the school was damaged to the point of the roof collapsing (possibly explaining their actions), then they would most certainly die anyway. All the drills served to practically do was scare the kids.

If you've ever read the book 1984, our Goldstein, in all practicality, is Bin Laden. This works the same way; arousing emotions in people to allow certain political action. The same sorts of things happened in 1930's Germany, when the Nazis burned their own Reichstag and blamed it on Communists to get their people riled up and hateful towards Communists. Same thing happened when Rome was burned to the ground, and the blame was dishonestly placed upon Christians.

The question is if this is just another example of this constant fearmongering, or an actual warning. Considering Cheney is going to be in a convenient position overseeing FEMA "excercises", and that 9/11 and the London Bombings both took place during such excercises, of events that mirrored what was actually taking place, it makes me wonder. The excercises have always served to confuse and disable government agencies from reacting properly, or giving control of those agencies directly to officials like willy Cheney until the emergencies are over.

We'll have to wait and see I suppose.

[chohan]

These bankers are dropping like flies:

Ex-Citigroup banker Zankel dead in fall - report
Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:52 PM BST

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Arthur Zankel, a former Citigroup financier and patron of the arts, died in a fall from the ninth floor of his Manhattan apartment building, The New York Times said on Saturday...
Zankel, 73, fell from the Fifth Avenue building on Thursday in an apparent suicide...

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=businessNews&storyID=2005-07-30T165212Z_01_MOL060681_RTRUKOC_0_PEOPLE-ZANKEL.xml

And what about this bloke?

Former Euro bank chief found dead in pool

FAUCON, France, July 31 (UPI) -- Former European Central Bank chief Wim Duisenberg drowned in his pool Sunday after an apparent heart attack.He died at his villa in Faucon, southeastern France. Duisenberg was the first president of the ECB from 1998-2003 and is credited by many with a smooth transition to the Euro, the BBC reported.
Duisenberg was born in 1935 and worked for the International Monetary Fund before going to work for the Dutch government. He served as Finance Minister for four years in the mid-1970s.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/?feed=TopNews&article=UPI-1-20050731-20432700-bc-france-duisenberg-obit.xml

Sounds like spook games but maybe it's just that word... apparent.

August 1, 2005

'The Long Knives of August', United States and Israel Begin Retaliatory Killings over September 11th Massacre in New York

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers

Russian Intelligence Agencies are reporting today that the ongoing Secret War being conducted between various Intelligence Agencies in both the United States and Israel against each other has taken a most ominous turn as retaliatory killings have begun over what the United States believes was Israel's masterminding of the September 11, 2001 massacre in New York City...

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index790.htm

Btw, if we here in America ever get our much vaunted dirty bomb attack from the ethreal, slippery al-qaeda, do you think the masses will remember the details of all these  Israeli agents arrested(and later deported) near US nuclear facilities or in other suspicious circumstances?

All instances documented in mainstream press:

1. Kings Bay Naval Nuclear Facility; Georgia

2. Nuclear Fuel Services Plant, Erwin, Tennessee

3. More Israeli moving van connections in Chicago, w/ Sears Tower videos

4. Whidbey Island Naval Station; Oak Harbor, Washington

5. Cloudcroft, New Mexico chief stops Israelis with suspicious cargo

6. weeks after 9-11, 6 in U.S. captured with possessed photos
and descriptions of a nuclear power plant in Florida and the Trans- Alaska
pipeline, and then released to go on their merry way in the Midwest...

7. 9-11, the five "dancing Israeli Mossad", already in place ready to film
the 9-11 hits, worked out of a New Jersey moving company. Dominic Suter, the head of the moving company--who fled to Israel when his Mossad cell was arrested on 9-11--ended up on an FBI terrorist watch list distributed to the Italian banking authorities. Chertoff, then DA of New Jersey, simply let the Mossad cell go back to Israel without charges.

8. The DEA Report: Israeli "art students" operating a spy-ring in Florida
and around the country are documented in this DEA/FBI report. The spy ring
maintained residences close enough to the purported 9/11 hijackers so that
official sounding stories now parrot the official line that these Mossad
operatives were watching the 9/11 hijackers with the cooperation of the US
government. This German Intelligence Report goes much farther, stating
that in fact they were the operators of the "al Qaeda" cell in America...

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/322255.shtml

In view of this I have to take notice when no_leaf points me to Juval Aviv via the Fox News link:

I predict... that an event is imminent and around the corner here in the United States. It could happen as soon as tomorrow, or it could happen in the next few months. Ninety days at the most.

Juval Aviv is a former Israeli Counterterrorism Intelligence Officer

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161962,00.html

I agree, that bloke should know.   Let's check and get a current threat assessment from Secretary(don) of Homeland Security,
Michael Chertoff:

Chertoff warns
of nuclear terror
Homeland Security secretary sees WMD threat as major concern

Issuing yet the latest warning of the threat of nuclear terrorism in the U.S...
Chertoff said the foremost concern for the nation's security now is the threat of a larger chemical, biological or nuclear attack.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45539

Well at least he does something when he's not deporting Israeli spooks out of our country. I notice WorldNetDaily is really blowing the propaganda horn, they're practically giving lessons on surviving gamma radiation.

Fearmongering? Yes.

Will they eventually try another black op? Yes

Nice job no_leaf, you keep me thinking.

cheers,
cho

[knucklebrain1970]

Here's what gets me thinking. The collective thoughts of so many people subscribing to the fear brought forth from terrorism, rammed down our throats via media and government will collectively create this reality because so many people are thinking about it. Remember, what you think, you get. Imagine millions of people daily with the thought in the back of their head that something catastrophic is going to occur?

Now you might ask, what about 9/11? People weren't thinking about terrorism then, right? Well that's easy, just ask Bush why 9/11 occurred.



I pay no attention to any of it. I actually say bring it, but I am a little sick in the head  

I don't subscribe to all the fear tactics the government and media is trying to push in our faces. I call BS.

These fools want to blow everything up. I say let's just get it all over with right now, do it once and do it right. Set the world afire  READY? 3,2,1 GO    

Kevin

[no_leaf_clover]

Thanks for the info, Chohan.

I took notice of this:

Russian Intelligence Agencies are reporting today that the ongoing Secret War being conducted between various Intelligence Agencies in both the United States and Israel against each other has taken a most ominous turn as retaliatory killings have begun over what the United States believes was Israel's masterminding of the September 11, 2001 massacre in New York City...

The US and Israel must have some common agenda or goal with current events. I'm not sure exactly what, whether its mutual financial and territorial gains or what, but I don't believe Israel was the ultimate behind the attacks, and I think our intelligence agencies are well aware of that. After all, it was willy Cheney himself that was preventing a NORAD response to flights 11 and 77, and Cheney isn't Israeli at all. He's just, like Bush, a rich puppet that was formerly in the oil business and knows how to serve his masters.

Since the attacks, most of the benefits have been in our own favor, with getting Iraq off of the euro and back on the dollar (something that is really troubling the US - OPEC countries are considering the euro after China and Japan have already dropped supporting our currency), and of course the oil issue itself, and our new, huge military budget. The Israeli government is little better than our own, I'm sure, but what exactly their specific agenda and benefit is, I couldn't tell you. I don't think Iraq, or even Iran or Syria, was much of a threat to them.

Maybe Israel really is just the 51st state.

I pay no attention to any of it. I actually say bring it, but I am a little sick in the head

Same here, man. Of course I would rather none of this happen, and everyone live in peace and harmony and all that utopian jazz. But since a hopeless number of people are dense in true 1984 fashion, I say do what you will. I the mean time, why not enjoy the ride?

[Gandalf]

and we've been told repeatedly by our intelligence that something may very well happen soon. And they would know

I'm hardly convinced given their past track record: 'weapons of mass destruction in Iraq' anyone?

That was all bull yet they tried to convince everybody, including themselves it seems.

Doug

[no_leaf_clover]

Just to be clear, by "and they would know" I was not suggesting that they had intercepted al Qaeda plans or anything like that. But yes, they will lie and distort, of course. Again, this may just be propoganda.

[Leyla]

(checks arms and legs) Yep. Still here.

They want to keep us gripped with fear so we'll fight anyone they point out as being a threat.