The Multiculture experiment has failed.

[Everlasting]

http://vodpod.com/watch/1428923-sweden-in-grip-of-islam

when a culture wants to dominate with force.

[Tayesin]

The behviours shown in the video are not so different to what we have in my country from our failed multiculturalism.

People emmigrated here from around the world, and we took in many refugees over the past 30 years. But instead of fitting in what has happened is they gathered in enclaves which became entire suburbs that an Aussie can not walk through for fear of being beaten up. Then to make matters worse we see the ethnic groups forming large gangs and continuing their cultural wars in my country. This is not what we intended when taking people in here, as we wanted these people to learn, grow and work with us to make our home and their's a good place to live. It failed.

Some time back there was a riot on the beach near Sydney which was reported as Aussies being Racist!! The facts were different. Aussie girls were being sexually harrased on the beach by young middle-eastern men and Aussie men came to their rescue as we would do at anytime. What made this different was the use of Cell Phones to gather larger crowds on both sides, mix it with alcohol and it began to ignite with the nanger we have suppressed over the loss of our freedom to walk where we choose and be unmolested by anyone. The ethnic groups realised they were outnumbered and fled, leaving the now drunken crowd to build itself to a fenzy and attack anyone who looked remotely middle-eastern. That was the sad end to what started out with the right intentions, to show these ethnic groups that here in my country we do not see women as 2nd class objects to be used or abused.

There is no answer for such problems. Sad really considering together we would have had a greater chance at survival for the majority as opposed to the bashings/murders we have here every day now. We cannot understand why anyone would bring their hatreds with them to our country and then act upon them and think it is okay to do so in the new homeland.

[Tiny]

Dear folks,

It is still a puzle to me how some of you worry so much about racial and cultural issues when it is clear that above all a ruling elite is in power who most of the time play both sides of wars and who have stated on many occasions and in documents of many of their organizations that to advance their agenda they must and will eliminate most of the population soon.

And besides, I don't think reflecting upon mainstream media issues is very wise because it is about manipulation and diversion (from the real issues) only.


peace

[Everlasting]

Tiny, multiculturalism is a real issue and it's ofcourse promoted by the new world order gang, destabilize divide and conquer.

[Tiny]

Tiny, multiculturalism is a real issue and it's ofcourse promoted by the new world order gang, destabilize divide and conquer.

Dear Everlasting,

actually it's called divide and conquer, not destabilize and conquer.
It means that when people are divided, instead of joint together as one, their power diminishes and their will can be defeated.


In a sarcastic way i'll have to thank you for completly ignoring my point. It goes on to show just how useless arguing on the internet really is. So let's not start one. Points should be made and mine has been made.



peace

[Tayesin]

I think many are well aware of the obvious control of TPTB, so the point is moot really.

What we have here is a conversation about the failure of mutliculturalism in reality. Yes media play an important role of making us Homogenised, but it does not overshadow the fact that it is people who are choosing to continue the ways of their homeland while living in another country. Which presents the problem as displayed in the video. I can't see anyone here "worrying" about it. And I think to discuss it openly is far different to arguing or point making.

So on topic... I do think people form other countries who want to continue their warring or hatefulness of another culture need to be forced into acceptintg that this is not how WE do it in our culture... their New Home. By all means let us accept the wonderful cultural differences, but let us also be straight down the line on what we expect as behaviour.

Everlasting, this is an important topic for people to read and release their own inner thoughts honestly without fear of attack for doing so. Thank You

[Xanth]

Tay, I completely understand.

I see it in Canada...
Here in Toronto, we have one of that largest immigration population anywhere.
We've got pretty much a cross section of every culture in the world here... and exactly what you mentioned is happening or has already happened.
Everyone grouped off into sections of the city to call their own.  Cultural gangs are running pretty much unchecked.

I mean...
It's gone too far when immigrants come here and try to complain about our holidays.
A minority group complained about a Christmas Tree setup in front of the Toronto City Hall.

That kind of stuff irks me beyond anything.
So yeah, I understand completely what you're saying...

[Stillwater]

I think an effort needs to be made to think about Islam and cultural extremism sepperately.

I too have had experiences with extremism- I recently spoke with an Imam for a five hours or so, and while this gentleman was kind and accomodating, I can also say he assured me that according to his understanding of Islam, western values and democratic government were manifestions of Satan on earth.

It is very easy to allow one's impressions of an entire group to be tainted by conversations like this, and that is the problem on both ends.

I think that in order to deal with an escalating social conflict like this, that citizens in the West should be encouraged to distinguish extremism from the core of Islam; on the other hand, effort should be made to engage those holding extreme views, and encourage them to consider the value of plurality, and understand that they will interact with others more successfully with a moderate approach.

I think this situation also describes the Imam I spoke with- though he belongs to a group that harbors militant feelings, the situation around them has forced a less outspoken approach, and they have grown to play a positive role in their community, providing resources to the homeless.

[AmbientSound]

I think Tayesin has a valid point. If I saw a group of people treating women as second-class citizens, my martial artist mindset would be activated almost immediately. I take offense to those who take pleasure at someone else's expense, and I'm not afraid to make it known.

While Stillwater is right, it is vital for any nation to adhere to its foundation. If a group of immigrants came to America and complained about the 4th of July, I doubt they would survive too long. If you want to be a part of another culture, then be a part of it. Don't try to change it into what you think it should be.

I acknowledge, however, that some people are over-zealous about their nationality, religion, ethnicity, ancestry, what mafia, gang or drug cartel they might belong to, etc. and that is as much of a problem as anything else. Why can't we publicly acknowledge ALL the holidays and customs? Why can't we just acknowledge everything and stop being offended???

[Fresco]

Tay, I completely understand.

I see it in Canada...
Here in Toronto, we have one of that largest immigration population anywhere.
We've got pretty much a cross section of every culture in the world here... and exactly what you mentioned is happening or has already happened.
Everyone grouped off into sections of the city to call their own.  Cultural gangs are running pretty much unchecked.

I mean...
It's gone too far when immigrants come here and try to complain about our holidays.
A minority group complained about a Christmas Tree setup in front of the Toronto City Hall.

That kind of stuff irks me beyond anything.
So yeah, I understand completely what you're saying...

LOLzers, I didnt know you're from T-dot also.  I live right downtown Toronto myself.
I'm from Oakville originally

[CFTraveler]

I think Tayesin has a valid point. If I saw a group of people treating women as second-class citizens, my martial artist mindset would be activated almost immediately. I take offense to those who take pleasure at someone else's expense, and I'm not afraid to make it known.

While Stillwater is right, it is vital for any nation to adhere to its foundation. If a group of immigrants came to America and complained about the 4th of July, I doubt they would survive too long. If you want to be a part of another culture, then be a part of it. Don't try to change it into what you think it should be.

I acknowledge, however, that some people are over-zealous about their nationality, religion, ethnicity, ancestry, what mafia, gang or drug cartel they might belong to, etc. and that is as much of a problem as anything else. Why can't we publicly acknowledge ALL the holidays and customs? Why can't we just acknowledge everything and stop being offended???

In Puerto Rico all the Spanish holidays are observed and all the American Holidays are also observed.  As a result, people go to school about 50% of the time, and chances are, gov't offices will be closed when you need to go get something legal done.
So I can imagine if everyone celebrated everyone else's holidays, we'd need robots to do the work, because we'd all be celebrating something.

[Xanth]

In Puerto Rico all the Spanish holidays are observed and all the American Holidays are also observed.  As a result, people go to school about 50% of the time, and chances are, gov't offices will be closed when you need to go get something legal done.
So I can imagine if everyone celebrated everyone else's holidays, we'd need robots to do the work, because we'd all be celebrating something.

I *FULLY* support this idea!
YAY FOR ROBOTS!