http://www.friatider.se/darfor-far-du-inte-titta-pa-fox-news
George soros exposed.
Glen Beck........
Beck is the man.
What is the argument your topic is trying to make? It seems to be saying two things at once, lol, and I am not sure which of them is the saracastic reading which supports the other.
So he is a top promoter of the Tea Party movement, as a very short glance at his wiki profile told me?
:-o :|
Quote from: Stillwater on November 11, 2010, 14:18:19
What is the argument your topic is trying to make? It seems to be saying two things at once, lol, and I am not sure which of them is the saracastic reading which supports the other.
Well, Fox was was banned because leftists started cry foul, they don't like conservatives as we all know and Soros is an evil master manipulator(God according to him) which prefers socialism/kommunism because it empowers him etc etc.
Ah. So you support Glen Beck, and Fox News, and becry that it was silenced, and believe Beck's account of Soros is accurate. Thanks for clearing it up, now it makes more sense.
While I greatly dislike Fox News, since they have obvious and open ideological affiliations which they allow to taint their presentation of every matter they address, throwing the idea of media neutrality and unbiased reporting out the window, and also happen to disagree with pretty much everything Beck says, I will say that he might be right about Soros.
There really is very little stopping a person from playing the puppetmaster with the machinery of economics if the rules governing their functioning are understood well enough. I think this fact is one reason (besides many others, some of which rooted in fact, some not) that people postulate the existence of an illuminati class. People want to believe that someone is there pulling the strings, and the machine is not running itself unattended, which is itself a very scary idea.
I couldn't read what the link had to say, but I love FOX News.
I watch Fox and Friends in the morning, I wish they would keep Dana in Gretchen's place...Gretchen is a little too religious for my taste and she seems to get offended by jokes that are too colorful. Cavuto is awesome! Shep Smith is another good one.. I used to say he was an alien because of his eyes..hehe.. but I like his style. Let's see.. ummm... Megyn Kelly is awesome too. That girl has got her stuff together, she is a formidable opponent. Chris Wallace is fair and balanced, I like him. Stossel is awesome as well! I watched O'reilly last night to see the Bush interview.. my goodness I miss that man compared to Obumer. but I don't have to watch Bill everyday and Hannity is ok too, but I like his forums much better.
As to Beck... I have tried to watch him and if he isn't crying, he's talking about God and whatnot. It makes me uncomfortable, but he certainly has his fans and I have to admit that if you watch him and don't understand him and his chalk board, then you aren't paying attention. He connects all the dots, makes all the points, and shows his work, I have to admire the man for that much. I just let my Mother-n-law watch him, give me the low down and save me the pain of cringing every other minute. :lol:
I have to disagree with you Stillwater, I don't believe you have watched FOX because if you have, you would not say that they are bias.. that is utter BS. They are the most UNBIASED station on today. You sound like you are merely parroting what some liberal station has told you. I would love for you to give me some examples of how they are throwing neutrality out the window, please. They ALWAYS have a Democrat spoke person to give the left view, in fact they have several that are on their shows on a daily basis.
Now let us have look at CNN, MSNBC, shall we?...... they are full of democrats to the ceiling, to the ceiling my friend! They are the bias stations, they are the ones that only state one side, and they are the ones who are always making fun of the conservatives. Liberals, when faced with the daunting task of giving actual facts usually resort to personal attacks that involve name calling, and bullying and thank goodness we now have FOX to show the American people what bias, bullies they are. It has taken FOX ten years to get the public to stop drinking the kool-aid that Hollywood and liberal media backhandedly poured down our gullible throats and I, for one love it. Do you know that democrats now are under fire for putting lies into our children's history books? It's out of control and they need to be stopped. PC is out of control and needs to be stopped.
Now that the Republicans have taken control of the House, they need to back up their words, and trust me, I'll be there watching and making sure they do, right along side of FOX News. :-)
Quote from: Everlasting on November 11, 2010, 17:46:48
Well, Fox was was banned because leftists started cry foul, they don't like conservatives as we all know and Soros is an evil master manipulator(God according to him) which prefers socialism/kommunism because it empowers him etc etc.
aren't all europeans socialists anyway? especially those scandanavian countries right?
lol, i'm just kidding, i have no idea what euorpean politics are about and i don't really care.
but kudos for banning FOX i suppose. might as well ban all of them though, they're all owned by the same people anyway.
I agree with PR, I am also conservative leaning in my views, but I dont take advice from any mainstream news corporations, whether left or right they use misinformation and propaganda at every turn. And yes, I believe most Scandinavian countries are socialist, although, they seem to make it work for themselves pretty good, and most scandinavian countries are amongst the best in the world for HDI, economy, wealth etc. Anyways, if your country banned just FOX and no other mainstream news channels, I wouldn't view it as a good thing at all. It means your government is trying to shift the political spectrum to liberalism in your country, which tends to hate the traditional values and culture of the majority of citizens.
QuoteDo you know that democrats now are under fire for putting lies into our children's history books?
Could you give me a link about this please? I'm curious.
I first heard about the liberal slant on books when this came up, http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/history-textbook-controversy-roils-texas/19323135
I'm trying to find some better examples. I just saw I guy on FOX the other day that found more mistakes...I guess lies was a too strong of a word, so I'll say, mistakes for now, maybe slant is a better word. I can't say for sure if the left is doing this knowingly, but after hearing Mrs. Obama say that "Barack knows we are going to have to change our history", I wouldn't put it past the hard core partisans. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/making-history-prof-finds-civil-war-mistake-in-childs-textbook/
Next time I hear more info on it, I will make sure to write down the info to make it easier for me to find it!
I watched that new show with Jesse Ventura. :-o I'm really scared of this President now.
I like FoxNews too.
AFA Soros is concerned he's 80 years old now and probably wont be relevant on the world stage for much longer
"The liberal medias problem now is that they don't have a monopoly on information. Back in the days, there was no alternative media that challenged the NYT's and the handful of Broadcasting companies. That is not the situation today. They will fail."
I read this yesterday and couldn't agree more. Hollywood and the media are killing this country. And if liberal journalist continue to be bias, there will be no equality.
Quote from: Naykid on January 10, 2011, 10:14:58
"The liberal medias problem now is that they don't have a monopoly on information. Back in the days, there was no alternative media that challenged the NYT's and the handful of Broadcasting companies. That is not the situation today. They will fail."
I read this yesterday and couldn't agree more. Hollywood and the media are killing this country. And if liberal journalist continue to be bias, there will be no equality.
Just out of curiosity, what is your definition of 'liberal'?
To me a liberal is someone who recognizes a group and not an individual. They believe in sharing the wealth, which means giving others what someone else has worked hard for. They hate big business, but LOVE big govt. You can't have big govt. because businesses can not compete with govt. due to the fact that they can print money. Liberal's love special interest groups because they can use and spend other people's money. Liberals are very generous with OTHER people's money.
Obama is a Marxist and socialist which is only a hard core liberal view, IMO. I'm sorry but I very much dislike the liberal/democrat views and policies. Let's talk about Unions, they are by far liberal based. Why do we even need them anymore?? We have labor laws. :lol: If you really take a non-bias look at what Unions have done for this country in the past, oh let's say thirty years, you'd see that they've destroyed more than they've helped. They are notorious for putting businesses out of business, due to their unrealistic expectations. Whatever happened to a person keeping their job, because they were good at it? Not because they'd been there for ten years, but by their job performance.
Liberals have made this country, weak, corrupt, unfair, unjust, lazy, greedy...etc. I think you get the point. Liberals for decades have tried to blame Republicans and called them the racist and the money mongers, yet all of their actions over decades have screamed just that. That's another point.. liberals need black people and poor people to feel less than, to stay the victim if you will or they will loose many votes.
I've got a lot more reasons but I must go fix lunch. :-)
^^^^ Agreed on all points :-)
I could probably add a few to that
I got myself worked up. :lol: and after lunch I was looking at Michelle Malkin's site. I sooo love her.
Anyhoo, check out her lead story, The progressive "climate of hate:" An illustrated primer, 2000-2010
http://michellemalkin.com/
The left talk and talk about how their compassion is bar none, yet their visceral hate is unmatched.
Allow me to just add a few of my Libtard traits (This goes for most Libs, but not all. There are exceptions):
They think science is religion, they rarely think "outside the box'.
They hate god or even the concept of ANY deity.
They hate most religions. Especially christianity.
They love Islam, especially right after 9/11.
They think they're intellectual.
They love atheism.
They love freedom of speech, until they encounter someone they dont agree with.
They love evolving a debate into name-calling.
They think they're supersmart.
They think a higher education automatically translates into success later in life.
They think uneducated people are stupid.
They hate FoxNews, but CNN can do no wrong and always tells the truth.
The love gun-control (or banning them), not realizing only criminals will then own guns.
They mostly hate natural medicine, vitamins, herbs....etc. Its Rx drugs all the way baby. Because thats supported by science.
They love peer-reviewed journals and AFA as they're concerned can almost never be wrong.
WOW, thats quite a rant. I need some lunch now too :lol: :-P
:lol:
So true!
Go get some lunch, you earned it. :-D
Quote from: Naykid on January 10, 2011, 13:21:20
:lol:
So true!
Go get some lunch, you earned it. :-D
I'll go have some lunch, re-energize, and see if I can conjure up some more gems :evil:
Quote from: Fresco on January 10, 2011, 13:32:58
I'll go have some lunch, re-energize, and see if I can conjure up some more gems :evil:
I got some. :-D Have you seen that book, 365 ways to drive a liberal crazy? Funny stuff!
Examples:
#10. Quote G. Gordon Liddy. "A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money"
#15. Refer to the "Fairness doctrine" as the "Unfairness Doctrine". The liberals have captured Google, Wikipidia, most of the print media, television and Hollywood. In what way is it "fair" to give them an "equal say" in talk radio as well? Liberal talk radio doesn't get equal ratings; the unfairness doctrine is just really another socialist effort to kill another industry (by making talk radio boring and forcing govt. to take over)
#16. On his birthday (Jan 17) Quote Benjamin Franklin. "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Tell your liberal friends that he was referring to a government-controlled health care.
#21. Tell them you don't give a damn about the Polar Bears. And it's not because you don't like cute, fluffy, white carnivores; it's because you find it hard to accept that a species whose population has increased fivefold- from 5,000 to 25,000- in the last five decades, can actually be in any kind of trouble.
I'm getting that book. :-D
How aboot the Libtards over at PETA??!
They hate cruelty against animals, yet they love wearing leather boots, gloves, jackets...etc :-D
They're also known to drive around in cars that have leather seats :-P
:lol: How about Al Gore, aka, Mr. Global warming himself? His hypocrisy his almost as large as the money he's made off of bogus global warming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkUiMo5tZlg
This is what really chaps my hide about the bias "media". Chris Matthews (I have a tingle up my leg) fantasized: "at some point somebody's going to jam a CO2 pellet into his head and he's going to explode like a giant blimp."
If someone on FOX News had said that about Obama, or any other left winger, there would be liberal protesters standing outside the studios, calling for their job or jail time. It's the blatant hypocrisy that chaps my hide. :evil:
Quote from: Fresco on January 10, 2011, 13:07:24
Allow me to just add a few of my Libtard traits (This goes for most Libs, but not all. There are exceptions):
They think science is religion, they rarely think "outside the box'.
They hate god or even the concept of ANY deity.
They hate most religions. Especially christianity.
They love Islam, especially right after 9/11.
They think they're intellectual.
They love atheism.
They love freedom of speech, until they encounter someone they dont agree with.
They love evolving a debate into name-calling.
They think they're supersmart.
They think a higher education automatically translates into success later in life.
They think uneducated people are stupid.
They hate FoxNews, but CNN can do no wrong and always tells the truth.
The love gun-control (or banning them), not realizing only criminals will then own guns.
They mostly hate natural medicine, vitamins, herbs....etc. Its Rx drugs all the way baby. Because thats supported by science.
They love peer-reviewed journals and AFA as they're concerned can almost never be wrong.
WOW, thats quite a rant. I need some lunch now too :lol: :-P
LOL... I consider myself a liberal, and the ONLY statement that describes me is "they think they're supersmart" :-D
Thanks for proving the point. :lol:
Kidding, kidding. I think both sides have some how lost the meaning on their parties as time as moved on. But I have to say that the democrat/liberal party is really mucking things up right now. I'm so happy Pelosi lost being the Speaker of the House, and they no longer have the majority.
Quote from: moondreamer on January 10, 2011, 16:15:12
LOL... I consider myself a liberal, and the ONLY statement that describes me is "they think they're supersmart" :-D
I forgot to underline "think" :lol:
Seriously though, we as Republicans (or conservatives) are not without our own faults.
I could probably do a self-analysis and make a long list of my shortcomings also
Come on folks. I watch a lot of news and I haven't seen any that aren't biased. Fox's claim t0 be "fair and balanced" just doesn't flow with the facts. It's not just the commentaries by Beck, Hannity and O'Reilly but activities such as this:
http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/video-fox-news-takes-criticism-for-1-million-donation-to-republican-party
Whether it's MSNBC or Fox, they would all like to fill your minds with bovine excrement and have you love it!
Quote from: DH on January 10, 2011, 22:02:51
Come on folks. I watch a lot of news and I haven't seen any that aren't biased. Fox's claim t0 be "fair and balanced" just doesn't flow with the facts. It's not just the commentaries by Beck, Hannity and O'Reilly but activities such as this:
http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/video-fox-news-takes-criticism-for-1-million-donation-to-republican-party
Whether it's MSNBC or Fox, they would all like to fill your minds with bovine excrement and have you love it!
I simply have to disagree, FOX is not like any other station out there.
I admit they lean to the right but so what? They give both sides and that is much more than anyone can say about CNN, MSNBC,etc. My god, even the series that are on these stations take jabs at Republicans. I'm not crazy about Palin either but can the trashing of her and her family, just stop already?? The liberals have had control too long. Can you name me one station that isn't on talk radio that gives the opinions and facts of the right? You can't because there isn't one.
That is why the left hates FOX. FOX gives the other side, the side that the left conveniently leaves out all the time. And they hate that someone has finally picked up a blow horn and is using it, hence all the demonizing of FOX, which includes Hannity, Beck, and O'reilly. The left hate that finally there is a station that people can go to when they are sick of all the visceral hate, hypocrisy and rhetoric that is literally hemorrhaging out of the liberal stations.
Take your link for an example. I actually read it. I wonder how many took the time to read what I put up? Most liberals don't bother with other opinions especially if they know that it is coming from the lips of a right-winger, (which I'm not btw) I think the time of Pelosi liberals are about up. But I digress.
About your link; you do realize that it's hardly unusual for media companies to support candidates and political parties, right? General Electric, which owns NBC gave donations to Democratic candidates and I believe they also gave some to a Republicans, not as much but it was still nice of them. And Disney, which owns ABC, donated to both sides again, but I think that was just a cover their butt type thing and I suppose smart business practice. They've learned to don't bite half the hands that feed you. CBS gave to Democratic PACs and then gave a token donation to some Republicans. I think in your link that you gave, they are complaining about the amount that was given. My neighbor has a fantastic pool damnit, I demand I get one too!! :lol:
The Democrats have Soros for goodness sakes, he has pumped Millions into the party but you don't hear liberals complaining about that. I also think, I'm not sure but he has his winky in Media Matters, or Daily costs, so wouldn't that be doing what you are claiming is wrong for FOX to be doing?
I think liberals just need to stop listening to all the rhetoric and find the truth on their own.
Look, Nay, I don't care who gave what to whom. If Fox resonates with you -- great. But honestly, I don't recall Soros claiming to be "fair and balanced" like Fox. And how much did Fox give to Democratic candidates after the million dollar donation to the Republican party? I'm just tired of the partisan BS from all sides. Nobody seems to want to work together for the common good.
Quote from: DH on January 11, 2011, 23:58:36
Look, Nay, I don't care who gave what to whom. If Fox resonates with you -- great. But honestly, I don't recall Soros claiming to be "fair and balanced" like Fox. And how much did Fox give to Democratic candidates after the million dollar donation to the Republican party? I'm just tired of the partisan BS from all sides. Nobody seems to want to work together for the common good
They dont wanna work together because their ideologies are completely different.
The Left wants socialism, the Right doesnt.
The Left hates big business, the Right doesnt because it realizes big business creates jobs.
The Left wants wealth to be shared so long as its your wealth and not theirs.
I could go on and on but let me end it by saying the USA has become one of the most successfull countries in the worldd through capitalism, they would be foolish to change that now into socialism. If it aint broke then dont fix it. And just because you hit a pothole in the road (recession) does not mean you have to replace and rebuild the entire highway.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" ummmm.....darn big pothole this one is. I'm tired of the biggest of the big businesses getting to run over everybody with impunity. It's disgraceful. I'm tired of government choosing those big business interests over the right of our citizens.
What do you define as success, Fresco? I'm guessing your definition greatly differs from mine that that therein lies the problem :)
Angie
Quote from: Fresco on January 12, 2011, 00:34:59
They dont wanna work together because their ideologies are completely different.
The Left wants socialism, the Right doesnt.
The Left hates big business, the Right doesnt because it realizes big business creates jobs.
The Left wants wealth to be shared so long as its your wealth and not theirs.
I could go on and on but let me end it by saying the USA has become one of the most successfull countries in the worldd through capitalism, they would be foolish to change that now into socialism. If it aint broke then dont fix it. And just because you hit a pothole in the road (recession) does not mean you have to replace and rebuild the entire highway.
Well said. People have been brainwashed over decades to think capitalism is bad, I don't understand it.
Quote from: DH
Look, Nay, I don't care who gave what to whom. If Fox resonates with you -- great. But honestly, I don't recall Soros claiming to be "fair and balanced" like Fox. And how much did Fox give to Democratic candidates after the million dollar donation to the Republican party? I'm just tired of the partisan BS from all sides. Nobody seems to want to work together for the common good.
Then will have to agree to disagree, because FOX News does resonate me and they are fair and balance far more than any other source out there. Their ratings show that I'm not alone with this opinion.
Quote from: moondreamer"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" ummmm.....darn big pothole this one is. I'm tired of the biggest of the big businesses getting to run over everybody with impunity. It's disgraceful. I'm tired of government choosing those big business interests over the right of our citizens.
What do you define as success, Fresco? I'm guessing your definition greatly differs from mine that that therein lies the problem :-)
Whom do you think owns these big businesses? All walks of life, from all areas of the political spectrum.
In any business, hell, in any thing you are going to find people who are honest, hardworking, fair, kind..etc. and then you will find the ones who run their businesses with dishonesty, laziness, and unfair practices. That's just the facts of life.
QuoteI'm tired of government choosing those big business interests over the right of our citizens.
Then you better vote republican in 2012. The very definition of what Obama and Democrats stand for is BIG government. The big businesses that Obama and team are choosing to bail out are the ones who are run by unions and everyone knows that the left and unions are one and the same.
Have you not been paying attention to this present government? He's taking over the Banks, car companies and soon the internet. The man has so many Czars it's insane! Obama wants to be a dictator, not a President.
What would you like to see happen? When you've put all big businesses out of business, where do you propose to get a job? From the govt? And once the govt. has killed all the businesses that created jobs, who's pocket are they going to pick to sustain all this govt take over??
You realize that raising taxes is the way that liberals do business. That is where they get all their money in order to share all this wealth to those who are too damn lazy to get out there and take care of their own families. They are creating a whole generation of lazy, I want a hand out because I deserve it, bums.
It's been in the works for some time now, starting with our schools. As long as we have people teaching in our colleges like Bill Ayers, we will continue in this stupid loop. Do you recognize his name? He's the guy who hates American and was involved with the Weather Underground. Oh, just in case you didn't or others didn't know. That was a domestic terrorist group. They were involved with bombing a police station and other not so nice things.
Obama was friends with him, I think he still is, but being President it would be stupid to continue to hang out with him. Kinda like Obama's Rev. Wright.. the roosters are coming home to roost guy. Another man who hates America and their capitalist ways. This man stands on a pulpit every Sunday and God-damns America. Nice. I believe Obama spent like 20yrs in that church, listening to that garbage, but only when he became President did he throw the Rev. under the bus.
Obama almost allowed this country to go right under when he was not going to extend the Bush tax cuts. I just don't understand people's thought process. It common economics 101. You cannot tax people to their throats and expect your country to flourish.
Perhaps it's my age and the fact that I have a family and have owed two homes and know for a fact that I have more money in my pocket when there ISN'T a Democrat in office.
Quote from: moondreamer on January 12, 2011, 12:44:01
What do you define as success, Fresco? I'm guessing your definition greatly differs from mine that that therein lies the problem :)
Angie
What do you mean?? My personal success or the success of an entire nation??
Who's success are you talking about?? :?
You said that the U.S. is one of the most successful countries, and I am just wondering what that means to you?
Quote from: moondreamer on January 12, 2011, 16:15:28
You said that the U.S. is one of the most successful countries, and I am just wondering what that means to you?
Well....success is relative I suppose. There's a bit of a paradox at work, America is financially and militarily obviously very successfull. But they are also some of the unhappiest people I ever met (I'm generalizing of course). They wrote the book on school shootings, office shootings, serial killers...etc. They are also one of the highest drug consuming countries in the world, both pharma and illegal drugs.
So in one way they are very successfull, and in another way I believe them to be spiritually unsuccessfull.
I'm generalizing but I think you know what I mean, right?
I am quite surprised by many people here's views. Saying that, I'm sure that had I been raised by American TV and news conglomerates I might hold many of the same views as you. You Cuss on Liberals approach to using money to help people as opposed to having the fat cats at the top of their 'big company's' doing less work than a shelf stacker and bathing in fresh crisp 100s whilst single mother's who've had an unfortunate upbringing go poor and stay poor. No one in the top 20 % needs half of the amount of money they own. That video? You all believed a single word of that video? 60 dollars for sugar? This video has the stink of Fox excrement all over it. I'll come back to this later!
Quote from: FrancisApple on April 21, 2011, 04:35:24
I am quite surprised by many people here's views. Saying that, I'm sure that had I been raised by American TV and news conglomerates I might hold many of the same views as you. You Cuss on Liberals approach to using money to help people as opposed to having the fat cats at the top of their 'big company's' doing less work than a shelf stacker and bathing in fresh crisp 100s whilst single mother's who've had an unfortunate upbringing go poor and stay poor. No one in the top 20 % needs half of the amount of money they own. That video? You all believed a single word of that video? 60 dollars for sugar? This video has the stink of Fox excrement all over it. I'll come back to this later!
I stopped watching the news at least a decade ago. I don't think I ever really started in the first place.
Fox does have a few of my favorite TV shows though; House, Family Guy, South Park, V, Spartacus, 24, American Dad.