Shadowatcher, I used to feel the heaviness you describe. Part of it, I think, came from me acting as though my astral body were my physical body.
Try to make yourself feel light and float next time, rather than try to sit up. It will work much better!
Shadowatcher_
Well done! I was 13 when I had my first astral experience (I am now 28), however, you are lucky in that you have no problems accepting it.
However, my circumstances were different. Up until I was 13, I had no astral experience at all. then I found a book with astral projection methods in them and thought 'hey, that sounds like fun, I'll give it a go!'.
I succeded on my first attempt but I was not ready for the reality of the experience and was terrified! I was scared of astral experiences for years afterwards. I had no-one to turn to to talk about this (I was only 13 and there was no such thing as the web back then!) so I suffered in lonliness for years, thinking I was the only one in the world who was suffering like this. Unfortunatly, the projection symptoms returned periodically, as Robert Monroe was correct when he said that once you have opened the door to astral projection, there is no turning back.
It wasnt until my mid twenties that I overcame the fear factor, thanks in whole to this forum actually! I have now had many succesful projections and the fear factor is gone.
Its amazing what fear can do to you though. AP is so much fun, and a true blessing, but I went for years thinking it was a curse!
Anyway, good luck to you and remember not to be afraid, its all good!
Regards,
Douglas
If you really are 13 years old, my advise to you is to keep out of your dad's room, and specially his reading material. Go back to Harry Potter!
Mirador
Ignore Mirador. He's just jealous you can do it at 13.
Shadowatcher,
love your name, btw. You are so lucky to have found this early in life so you have it as a tool for the rest of your days. And I also suspect that it is easier to master when you are younger (for some people) because you are still flexible...literally and figuratively speaking. lol
I had my first experience when I was 16 or so...and I thought it was strange, and frightening, but I had no idea it was a pathway to exploration.
Have fun and update us on your progress,
Oh, and ignore the trolls (mirador).
with much affection,
Amber
whats up im keegan. im new here . so . i am a ultiment ki master my friend sensed me. i would like to know if any body has any moves they could teach me . if so u teach me ur move and ill teach u mine
Just wondering 'kibeginnersnightmare' what on earth are you talking about ? Teach me ur move and i'll teach you mine sounds like a bad chat up line !
hey. i just want to learn some ki moves. and what does obe mean?
OBE is short for Out of Body Experience.
I am not sure what you mean by Ki moves, though I have an idea. Check out NEW which will teach you to work with your body energy (Ki, Chi, etc). http://www.astralpulse.com/guides/new/new.htm
thanx. see i practice a energy called ki also know as chi or psi. this energy alows u to teleport,shoot energy balls and heal. it is a fun energy and really works.
what energy do you guys practice?
HEY! kibeginnersnightmare! is your name really keegan because my name is kegan and if this is some sick joke..........have u ever been to my site?......
shadowatcher
You're lucky. Many of us are just envious. We work hard at the few obe's we get. Keep at it. Learn as much as you can. This is a good place for that. And don't let anyone tell you that this is wrong.
good luck.[:)]
no my name is keegan. havent been to your site. i live in missoui. u?
what energy do you practice?
CA and i use ki and aerokinesis
hi. my mom and friends tell me ki and chi and psi and obe is fake should i believe her.
can u shoot energy balls? and what is that big a word mean ?
hey everyone my aim (aol instant messenger) s/n is spellcast91 IM me some time
the big word i put means power over air and if u were talking to me yes i can shoot energy balls
is this forum dead?
(those of you who have been using this forum to discuss shooting fireballs, please create your own and not use mine...)
Thankyou so much for your advice, I still have a few questions though...
First of all..should I keep my eyes open or shut? I like keeping them shut to block out all the physical world.
Second.... SHould i imagine that I have no physical body? or just accept that I do have one, and am leaving it?
Third..What is the astral plane like? i mean, do normal physics laws apply? or do I just float around?
quote:
hi. my mom and friends tell me ki and chi and psi and obe is fake should i believe her.
Always, without any doubt, believe everything your mother tells you. If you can't trust your own mother, who can you trust?
Mirador
mirador you are evil
seriously.... if you can shoot fireballs, why dont you attack Poland! It worked really well for the last guys who tried it, and dont worry, you can always teleport out of the way of the bullets![:D]
Is NEW energy raising and all that stuff required to have an OBE projection directly into the physical.. or would mental falling sensations and focusing on the body getting heavier while drifting asleep (perhaps like an afternoon nap) suffice?
Has anyone had success introducing a W.I.L.D through awareness of the body getting heavier and heavier until vibrations start
shadowatcher , I typed this friggin post already and something stupid happend so I'm gonna shorten it up a bit ..
Im glad you found out about OBEs early and you should have your eyes closed when practicing. The astral plane can feel any way you want it to feel .. it looks like the real world until you want it to look different.. you can mold it with your mind and change gravity and whatever.. walking through walls is fun too hehe..
Mirador .. no one likes an immature brat posting on here stop being a smartass and leave the forums or post something useful and helpful.
Attention Ki trainers ... I have a ki move you can try and it really works .. Ball up both of your hands raise them high above your head.. focus alyour energy into your fists and hit as hard as you can in the jaw from both sides.... What did that accomplish?? Nothing ... What do energy moves accomplish ? Nothing ... You guys are idiots for believing you can do Ki blasts , ki moves .. come on morons....get alife.. Ki balls , energy healing , feeling someone energy , that stuff is real .. I know it cause I practice psi every day. Ki beams and all that DBZ stuff is PLAY its friggin cartoon stuff..jeez..
You do not have to raise your energy or do any NEW energy work in order to have an OBE/AP. It does help, probably a lot. If nothing else it helps you get use to the energy sensations and feeling for nonphysical things, such as your other bodies beyond the physical. I suggest you do energy work. It does not have to be much but a little will help.
Keeping your eyes shut is probably best, but I have heard of a method where you keep them open and focus your attention on something across the room. I think you enter a trance state and after awhile you find yourself outside your body close to the object you are focused on. Not sure about this as I have never really used it. But I suggest you go with what you feel comfortable with. Do not be afraid to experiment and try new things to see what works best for you.
You really do not want to think about your physical body but shift your awareness away from it. Any thoughts about it, even trying to imagine that you don't have one will make you think about it, can keep you in the physical. Try to just shift your awareness away from the physical.
The astral can be pretty much what you make of it. It can be like the physical or it can be formless or totally different. Try not to be afraid or surprised by anything you might experience. Try to remain calm and passive at all times.
If you are interested in Ki please move to the Energy Development section so we can keep this post on topic. Thank you.
Thanks guys. Ill tell you If I make any further progress In my OBE experiances. RIght now I keep feeling heavy and falling back into my physical body. But practice makes perfect (or better) so onward and upward!
I am 13 years old, and have been experiancing OBE type expiriences for more than 3 years. Since I first found a book in my dads room entitled "astral projection and lucid dreaming" i have been trying to find someone who understands OBEs and can help me. This is my average expirience...
(my position is lying down, in bed, with my eyes closed)
1. I relax all of the muscles in my body, one at a time.
2. I try to clear my mind of every thought.
3. I try to sit up in my astral body.
4. I (ussually) am too heavy and fall back
5. I expirence a kindof lightheadedness for about 5-10 minutes
thats it, its really wierd, and once or twice, Ive felt I was floating slightly, but nothing extreme. What should I do to increase my expirience?